Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] The many bugs in SBS 7.6 in handling ARTIST and COMPOSER tags

2011-06-28 Thread vagskal

Philip Meyer;638287 Wrote: 
 
 However, it would be useful to have a way of filtering/grouping/sorting
 by contributor role.
 
 e.g.
 
 Group by Contributor Role, would first show all Albums by the
 contributor (Artist, Band/Orchestra and Album Artist roles), then
 albums that the contributor has had a guest appearance on (Track
 Artist), then albums that the contributor composed o conducted on. 
 i.e. the list of albums would be clearly sectioned with headers to show
 Main Albums, Guest Albums (eg. compilation appearances), Composer,
 Conductor.
 
 Filter by Contributor Role could be provided to allow the user to
 choose a single section to show only main albums by that contributor,
 only guest albums, only albums they composed, conducted, etc, or All
 (default).  Show All Songs link would then present the list of songs
 descending from all of the albums displayed in the filtered list.
 
 Perhaps a checkbox to toggle the display of each contributing role of
 interest, and this could be remembered for subsequent visits to album
 context for a chosen contributor.
 
 To me, that would be a much more consistent UI.

You might want to vote for this feature request if you have not done so
already: http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12676


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[SlimDevices: Beta] The many bugs in SBS 7.6 in handling ARTIST and COMPOSER tags

2011-06-27 Thread frank1969

Today I took some time to compare, how SBS DID (Until 7.5.5 including)
and DOES (in 7.6) handle artist and composer tag.

Till 7.5.5 everything was fine:

If You browsed by album You could simply click on an (track) artist or
on an composer's name and SBS showed You, thoses songs this
artist/composer contributed to THIS special album. If you chose a song
and clicked on an artists/composers name it showed ALL other songs, You
have in Your database sung/composed by this particular person. This has
been FINE :)

The URL/code was like

http://127.0.0.1:9000/browsedb.html?hierarchy=contributor,album,tracklevel=1contributor.id=195contributor.role=COMPOSER

or
http://127.0.0.1:9000/browsedb.html?hierarchy=contributor,album,tracklevel=1contributor.id=442contributor.role=TRACKARTIST


so You can easily see, the choise was made by the contributor.role
part.


In 7.6 everything got wired.
First of all You CAN'T click on composer's names anymore - if You wanna
make them clickable then You have to choose the make composer an
artist option - and the price You pay is, SBS mixes up artist and
composer to one artist_id - there seems to be no more
contributor.role model.

So If You click on  Bob Dylan - even If You click on him from an
ARTIST-tag - You see all 200 versions of Blowin' In The Wind he
composed - and You really CAN'T see, which one is really SUNG by him
and which one he only COMPOSED.

For the web UI (speaking of mp3-files) shows only ONE name from the
ARTIST/COMPOSER-mixture - You see in the left frame of the web ui a
hunderd times Blowin' In The Wind - Bob Dylan - and You can't see,
which one is the Stevie Wonder-Version, the Marlene Dietrich-version,
the Bryds-Version ... or which is Dylans Original Version...  :(

The url/code here is like


http://127.0.0.1:9000/clixmlbrowser/clicmd=browselibrary+itemsartist_id=7057mode=albumslinktitle=Interpret%20(Petra%20Frey)/

or
http://127.0.0.1:9000/clixmlbrowser/clicmd=browselibrary+itemsartist_id=261mode=albumslinktitle=Interpret%20(Toto%20Cutugno)/

don't know where this linktitle=Interpret part comes from - I tried
to change it to composer manually - nothing changed  :(


Another disadavantage is, clicking on an ARTISTs name on an album page,
doesn't show You just the songs on THIS particular album, this person
sings on ... but shows all (other) ALBUMS this person sings on ...

E.g. You own the new Dave Stewart album where he sings songs with
Stevie Nicks and Martina McBride

headline says:
Track Artist: Dave Stewart, Martina McBride, Stevie Nicks

In 7.5.5 clicking on Stevie Nicks' name would show You those song(s)
Stevie Nicks sings on - fine, this is what I'm looking for, when I
click it.
In 7.6 clicking on Stevie Nicks' name shows You ALL (other) albums
Stevie Nicks sings on (or composed a song for) - this is definitely NOT
the information I'm looking for in first place, when I browse an album
...

I'm not quite sure, how to put this in a bug - I think the whole thing
of handling ARTIST/COMPOSER - tags and the ROLE model needs some work
urgently...


Would be VERY grateful if You could bring back at least the
functionality of 7.5.x ...

Thanks in advance

Frank


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] The many bugs in SBS 7.6 in handling ARTIST and COMPOSER tags

2011-06-27 Thread Phil Meyer
I think this would be fine *if* there was an alternative way to filter 
album/song views.

I would expect by default to click an artist name no matter where it is 
presented, and see a list of all work they have been involved with.  I'd expect 
to see a list of all albums, and underneath each album all songs that the 
contributor had any contributing role on.  Follow the All Songs link in album 
context to show all songs for an artist.

However, it would be useful to have a way of filtering/grouping/sorting by 
contributor role.

e.g.

Group by Contributor Role, would first show all Albums by the contributor 
(Artist, Band/Orchestra and Album Artist roles), then albums that the 
contributor has had a guest appearance on (Track Artist), then albums that the 
contributor composed o conducted on.  i.e. the list of albums would be clearly 
sectioned with headers to show Main Albums, Guest Albums (eg. compilation 
appearances), Composer, Conductor.

Filter by Contributor Role could be provided to allow the user to choose a 
single section to show only main albums by that contributor, only guest albums, 
only albums they composed, conducted, etc, or All (default).  Show All Songs 
link would then present the list of songs descending from all of the albums 
displayed in the filtered list.

Perhaps a checkbox to toggle the display of each contributing role of interest, 
and this could be remembered for subsequent visits to album context for a 
chosen contributor.

To me, that would be a much more consistent UI.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] The many bugs in SBS 7.6 in handling ARTIST and COMPOSER tags

2011-06-27 Thread frank1969

JJZolx;638290 Wrote: 
 The problems described here are just the tip of it. Given the complete
 standstill that development of 7.6 has come to, I have a feeling that
 it will be released exactly as you see it now. Then there will be a
 storm of user complaints and fixes will trickle in over the following
 months.

Well, I agree - releaseing 7.6 in this condition would be nearly
suicide - it's MUCH less usable than 7.5.

I like to test new things, that's why I install beta/nightlies - and
I'm used to experience bugs ... but I'm also used to see progress, that
bugs disappear..

I think 7.6 is a big step BACK from 7.5 as it is now... :(


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