Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Loading ...............
Is it only slow while scanning your music, or even when idle? -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43417 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Loading ...............
NFLnut;268701 Wrote: > I am on the 2-12 nightly and I had this problem with the 2-11 as well > .. > > Squeezecenter essentially freezes up while loading. It will load the > left pane "fairly" (but not so) quickly, but the right pane (the > playlist?) just hangs at "Loading" and that freezes up the Squeezebox. > Currently, SC has been locked up for about 40 minutes. Closing the > window and opening up a new one results in the same thing. I have tried > stopping Squeezecenter and restarting, and that ended up the same way. > That's when I d/l'd the 2-12 build .. but the same thing. > > Any suggestions? No suggestion but to add to your point, as I've said in another post, the nightly spends 10-15 minutes thrashing the hard drive before it finally loads. I that REALLY necessary? Probably not but as the brain trust "fixes" 1 bug, more are usually created. Spaghetti code reveals itself during execution for the most part. . -- haunyack Transporter -> B&K 200.2 -> Vandersteen 3A Signature C.G. Conn New York Wonder - circa 1898. haunyack's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9721 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43417 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Loading ...............
andyg;268740 Wrote: > Is it only slow while scanning your music, or even when idle? Hi Andy, The churning occurs even after a full scan is complete and saved, after reboot, restart, etc. Yes, it occurs at startup. . -- haunyack Transporter -> B&K 200.2 -> Vandersteen 3A Signature C.G. Conn New York Wonder - circa 1898. haunyack's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9721 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43417 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
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So this problem only occurs when you first start SC, then it settles down after a short while? -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43417 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Loading ...............
andyg;268750 Wrote: > So this problem only occurs when you first start SC, then it settles > down after a short while? It settles in about 10 minutes, after a clean scan or rescan. After that it loads normally on restart or reboot if nothing new added to db. Trouble is, I usually have something to add on every boot, so the next start, I am finding something to do while the server churns away. . -- haunyack Transporter -> B&K 200.2 -> Vandersteen 3A Signature C.G. Conn New York Wonder - circa 1898. haunyack's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9721 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43417 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
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andyg;268755 Wrote: > A scan for just new music doesn't take that long though, or are you > doing full rescans daily? Well, yes, because I fiddle with my directory structure constantly. Point being is, for me, this is new behavior I have not encountered until recently. . -- haunyack Transporter -> B&K 200.2 -> Vandersteen 3A Signature C.G. Conn New York Wonder - circa 1898. haunyack's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9721 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43417 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Loading ...............
A scan for just new music doesn't take that long though, or are you doing full rescans daily? -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43417 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Loading ...............
It just seems RAAYYY SLOW!! I even rebooted Winblows and it's still SLOW! It just takes forever to do anything. My first post talked about the playlist pane taking forever to load, but it's really almost every element taking forever. The icons on the left are taking forever .. the icons on the right are taking forever .. I know this is Beta software, but it just seems to be going backwards. The problem is occurring even on the machine where Squeezecenter resides. Therefore, it isn't a network problem. -- NFLnut NFLnut's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13180 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43417 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
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haunyack;268754 Wrote: > It settles in about 10 minutes, after a clean scan or rescan. > > After that it loads normally on restart or reboot if nothing new added > to db. > > Trouble is, I usually have something to add on every boot, so the next > start, I am finding something to do while the server churns away. > > . Mine never settles. It's just always slow. I have had this problem for the last two or three weeks, and it's on a pretty fast machine. There have been no changes to the computer or software. -- NFLnut NFLnut's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13180 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43417 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Loading ...............
> Squeezecenter essentially freezes up while loading. What system are you running SC on? What version of SC are you updating from? What's your library size? Browser? -- Michael ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Loading ...............
andyg;268740 Wrote: > Is it only slow while scanning your music, or even when idle? It's slow all he time. Regardless of whether it is scanning, idle, or when I try, for example, to click through my music folders. It even taes forever just to load icons. -- NFLnut NFLnut's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13180 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43417 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Loading ...............
haunyack;268754 Wrote: > It settles in about 10 minutes, after a clean scan or rescan. > > After that it loads normally on restart or reboot if nothing new added > to db. > > Trouble is, I usually have something to add on every boot, so the next > start, I am finding something to do while the server churns away. > > . Hi Mike. Whaddya think? . -- haunyack Transporter -> B&K 200.2 -> Vandersteen 3A Signature C.G. Conn New York Wonder - circa 1898. haunyack's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9721 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43417 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Loading ...............
> Hi Mike. > Whaddya think? U talking 2 me? I think the OP and you are seeing different issues here. You might have run into bug 7104 (which is partially caused by the workaround for bug 4699): we're pre-caching album art for faster display on Controller & web interface. This procedure seems to be pretty slow using the method we're using to work around a crasher in GD for Windows. Would the behaviour improve if you replaced copyResampled() with copyResized() in Slim::Web::Graphics? That's not a solution, just one more data point. The resulting artwork won't be as smooth as with copyResampled(). -- Michael ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Loading ...............
Michael Herger;268776 Wrote: > > Squeezecenter essentially freezes up while loading. > > What system are you running SC on? What version of SC are you updating > from? What's your library size? Browser? > > -- > > Michael Windblows XP Pro SqueezeCenter 7.0 - 17424 - Windows XP - EN - cp1252 Liberry size: TRACKS: 6526 ALBUMS: 1486 ARTISTS: 1913 GENRES: 93 TOTAL PLAY TIME: 618:18:08 Browser is Firefox 2.0.0.12 -- NFLnut NFLnut's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13180 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43417 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Loading ...............
Michael Herger;268787 Wrote: > > U talking 2 me? > > Would the behaviour improve if you replaced copyResampled() with > copyResized() in Slim::Web::Graphics? That's not a solution, just one > more data point. The resulting artwork won't be as smooth as with > copyResampled(). > > -- > > Michael Thanks Michael, I think I'll just add music less frequently for the time being, as I know next to nothing about coding Perl. . -- haunyack Transporter -> B&K 200.2 -> Vandersteen 3A Signature C.G. Conn New York Wonder - circa 1898. haunyack's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9721 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43417 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
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> I think I'll just add music less frequently for the time being, as I > know next to nothing about coding Perl. No need to know perl: we added an option in Settings/Advanced/Performance to use a faster Resize algorithm instead of the nicer Resample. Please give this a try. Michael ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Loading ...............
> Windblows XP Pro > > SqueezeCenter 7.0 - 17424 - Windows XP - EN - cp1252 > > Browser is Firefox 2.0.0.12 Do you see the same issue if you don't open FF? Or use IE instead? We've seen cases where FF would use 100% CPU when SC is loaded. If this is the case for you: are you using some add-ons like add blocker, Firebug or others? -- Michael ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Loading ...............
I too am experiencing a slow start when I try to open Squeezecenter after it has been shut down. I start Squeezecenter and then try to open it and it takes upwards of 10-15 minutes to load. I am using Firefox 2.0.0.12. SqueezeCenter Version: 7.0 - 17367 - Windows XP - EN - cp1252 Library size is: Total Tracks: 37,192 Total Albums: 3,219 Total Artists: 1,067 Total Genres: 82 Total Playing Time: 3226:05:12 -- Juliozaffo Juliozaffo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15512 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43417 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
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I decided to try Internets Exploder (I never use that browser anymore) and I do notice it's a LITTLE faster, but it still takes forever a lot of the time to load a page in Squeezecenter. Even from the native/server machine! All I want to do is have near-instant access to my music, to press the PLAY button on either the remore or the web interface, and have it start playing within a second or so. I don't want to wait what sometimes takes 30 seconds to a minute or two for it to start playing music. I LOVE the Squeezebox, but I am really getting tired of the sluggish performance of SC!! I just want to play music! -- NFLnut NFLnut's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13180 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43417 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Loading ...............
NFLnut wrote: > I decided to try Internets Exploder (I never use that browser anymore) > and I do notice it's a LITTLE faster, but it still takes forever a lot > of the time to load a page in Squeezecenter. Even from the > native/server machine! > > All I want to do is have near-instant access to my music, to press the > PLAY button on either the remore or the web interface, and have it > start playing within a second or so. I don't want to wait what > sometimes takes 30 seconds to a minute or two for it to start playing > music. I LOVE the Squeezebox, but I am really getting tired of the > sluggish performance of SC!! I just want to play music! How much RAM do you have? Is SC running on the same PC as the browser? Do you have any Firefox add-ins/plugins installed? R. ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Loading ...............
Robin Bowes;271198 Wrote: > NFLnut wrote: > > I decided to try Internets Exploder (I never use that browser > anymore) > > and I do notice it's a LITTLE faster, but it still takes forever a > lot > > of the time to load a page in Squeezecenter. Even from the > > native/server machine! > > > > All I want to do is have near-instant access to my music, to press > the > > PLAY button on either the remore or the web interface, and have it > > start playing within a second or so. I don't want to wait what > > sometimes takes 30 seconds to a minute or two for it to start > playing > > music. I LOVE the Squeezebox, but I am really getting tired of the > > sluggish performance of SC!! I just want to play music! > > How much RAM do you have? > > Is SC running on the same PC as the browser? > > Do you have any Firefox add-ins/plugins installed? > > R. I have 2 GB of RAM. I do have FF plugins installed, but I am not using FF on that machine at this time. I have switched to IE for that machine. SC is running on the same machine as the web interface, and yet it is still unbelievably slow. -- NFLnut NFLnut's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13180 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43417 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
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Do you have a slow internet connection active on that PC? Win seems to have bad scheduling related to that. I've got a system that dramatically slows down all loopback traffic as soon as I connect a line with a bad ping. Do you have SoftSqueeze running? Another resource hog on my Win installations. Next suspect: iTunes, especially in combination with iTunes updater plugin. You did disable your virus scan for a trial, didn't you? Safari on the PC is pretty fast, yet I doubt this is the browser. Oh, and: WHAT EXACTLY is being slow? Are you lacking responsiveness or is it loading the page? On my systems the default skin takes a minute to load but after that it's quite responsive. -- pippin --- see iPeng at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43417 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Loading ...............
No. The computer that SC runs from is the fastest computer I have in the house. Softsqueeze isn't running, and I never run iTunes except when I plug in my iPod at which time I immediately shut down iTunes (I HATE iTunes!) via Task Damager. I don't presently have antivirus on that machine (I just haven't gotten around to installing it). Squeezecenter runs VERY slow MOST of the time on that computer. Plus, when it starts behaving like that, I have no control of the Squeezebox via remote control. It's just locked up, sometimes for several minutes. -- NFLnut NFLnut's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13180 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43417 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
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So you don't have iTunes updater plugin? That starts iTunes in the backgrund and sometimes provokes the exact same behavior on my system (to be fair it's not iTunes updater, but iTunes itself, which crashes). Also: I didn't mean slow computer but slow internet connection (like UMTS or something). With slow I don't mean the data rate, but the latency (ping). That's another issue I'm sometimes experiencing. Is WLAN working well? -- pippin --- see iPeng at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43417 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Loading ...............
Michael Herger;268787 Wrote: > > Hi Mike. > > Whaddya think? > > U talking 2 me? > > I think the OP and you are seeing different issues here. You might have > run into bug 7104 (which is partially caused by the workaround for bug > 4699): we're pre-caching album art for faster display on Controller & > web interface. This procedure seems to be pretty slow using the method > we're using to work around a crasher in GD for Windows. > > Would the behaviour improve if you replaced copyResampled() with > copyResized() in Slim::Web::Graphics? That's not a solution, just one > more data point. The resulting artwork won't be as smooth as with > copyResampled(). > > -- > > Michael Hi Mike, Slow start-up... is it here to stay? As the fix you recommended has no affect on the 3-10 minutes it takes to get to a fully loaded interface, is there a fix for this issue coming? . -- haunyack Transporter -> B&K 200.2 -> Vandersteen 3A Signature C.G. Conn New York Wonder - circa 1898. haunyack's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9721 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43417 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Loading ...............
> Slow start-up... is it here to stay?
As long as we can't reproduce it or don't know the reason for the delay, yes.
But you might have seen the other thread ("can't connect to web interface" or
similar). Could you please follow up in there? There are two log files in
there: do you see any similar log entries on your system (DNS, connection to SN
failed etc.)?
> As the fix you recommended has no affect on the 3-10 minutes it takes
> to get to a fully loaded interface, is there a fix for this issue
> coming?
The change I proposed does indeed not influence the startup, but the scanning
process.
--
Michael
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