[Bibdesk-users] Crossref

2007-11-06 Thread Justin C. Walker
Hi, all,

After a quick tour through the manual, I think it's the case that  
BibDesk can't handle crossrefs that live in a different .bib file.   
Correct?

Is this something that could be supported?  Is it of value?

FWIW, I have several .bib files; individual papers I have access to  
are in one; books I own are in another; and refs I can't easily  
access are in a third.  I'd like to be able to have entries in the  
first cross-reference to entries in the other two.

I should add that this doesn't present a problem for TeX use, but it  
would be nice to see the effects in BibDesk's preview window.

Thanks!

Justin

PS: after sufficient discussion on this list, I have finally figured  
out how to scrape Google Scholar.  It's is a great addition.  Thanks!

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[Bibdesk-users] Web Groups?

2007-11-06 Thread Bertolt Meyer
Hi,

after having read so much about the new scholar scraping I downloaded  
the recent nightly. Unfortunately, I am too blind to find the feature.  
Where do I find the famous web group option? Sorry for the dumb  
question, I feel really stupid. I looked all over.

cheers,
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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Web Groups?

2007-11-06 Thread Christiaan Hofman
It should be in the group pane, the second group, called Web.

Christiaan

On 6 Nov 2007, at 10:17 AM, Bertolt Meyer wrote:

 Hi,

 after having read so much about the new scholar scraping I downloaded
 the recent nightly. Unfortunately, I am too blind to find the feature.
 Where do I find the famous web group option? Sorry for the dumb
 question, I feel really stupid. I looked all over.

 cheers,
 bertolt

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 Oberassistent
 Psychologisches Institut Universität Zürich
 Sozialpsychologie
 Binzmühlestr. 14 / 1, Box 15
 CH-8050 Zürich

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Re: [Bibdesk-users] COPAC/Google Scholar search result problem

2007-11-06 Thread Jamal Shahin
Hello!

Thanks for the COPAC fix! Which I'll check out at some point today.

On 06 Nov 2007, at 00:36, Adam R. Maxwell wrote:
 Jamal Shahin wrote:
 For some reason, even though I'm using my University's VPN connection
 (University of Amsterdam), it defaults to scholar.google.be (I'm
 sitting in Belgium right now). Could that be the issue? From point 2
 onwards, everything is set up as you suggest.

 I'll bet it fails because the scraper/parser bails out if the host  
 isn't scholar.google.com.  I just checked in a possible fix for this  
 as well, so we just see if the host starts with scholar.google.   
 Please let us know if it works (or not) after
 tomorrow's build is out.

I now see references in the Publication List, using build 925. I  
worked out how to revert to scholar.google.com, and after a system  
restart - I should have done that before reporting, I guess -  
apologies, everything seems to 'sort of' work! Apart from the fact  
that the following reference is 'Unable to be parsed as BibTeX':

@article{chadwick2003ibs, title={{Interaction between States and  
Citizens in the Age of the Internet:“e-Government” in the United  
States, Britain, and the European Union}}, author={Chadwick, A. and  
May, C.}, journal={Governance: An International Journal of Policy,  
Administration, and Institutions}, volume={16}, number={2},  
pages={271--300}, year={2003}, publisher={Blackwell Synergy} }

If I click on the 'Import into BibTeX' link in Google Scholar, copy  
the text to the clipboard, and then, in BibDesk, select Publication -- 
  New Publications from Clipboard, it appears to import  
'successfully', so I'm not quite sure what's going on here.

 On Nov 5, 2007, at 5:52 PM, Adam M.Goldstein wrote:
 I am showing 10 references at a time. The page doesn't hang up  
 loading
 up; the spinner disappears and the stop-loading x turns into a
 relaoding symbol next to the url field.

I'm also having the same problem as Adam G. regarding the freezing of  
references in the Web group: but it doesn't seem to be systematically  
reproducible and, like him, I can't see anything in the console.  
Relaunching bibdesk seems to solve the issue, for me, at least.

Best wishes, Jamal
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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Web group issues continuing

2007-11-06 Thread Adam M . Goldstein
On Nov 5, 2007, at 11:48 PM, Adam R. Maxwell wrote:


 On Nov 5, 2007, at 5:52 PM, Adam M.Goldstein wrote:

 The following search won't bring up new references when I move to the
 second page of search results in google scholar:

 http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=ontologyhl=enlr=start=20sa=N

 The first ten references come up, but then no more do when I navigate
 to more.

 I am showing 10 references at a time. The page doesn't hang up  
 loading
 up; the spinner disappears and the stop-loading x turns into a
 relaoding symbol next to the url field.

 I just went through the first seven pages with no problems.  If there
 are no log messages, I have no idea what's wrong.  Sorry.  It really
 sounds like an exception.

How nice to be exceptional.

  Does anything come up if you search
 Console's All Messages for bibdesk?


The only BD message that shows up is:

11/5/07 8:40:29 PM BibDesk[406] Application will quit without  
finishing writing metadata cache.

I have no idea whether this is related to the web group problems.

snip



 UI complaint: the import button doesn't change color or shading
 after it's been used to show that the reference has been imported. I
 keep importing the same reference because I can't remember whether I
 did or not and the button doesn't show it, like in the case of Z39.50
 imports.

 Thanks...looks like a flag isn't being set.  I don't know how that
 works, but Christiaan can likely fix it if I don't have time to figure
 it out.  Might be worth a bug report as reminder.


Submitted!

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Iona College
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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Web group issues continuing

2007-11-06 Thread Christiaan Hofman

On 6 Nov 2007, at 4:58 PM, Adam M.Goldstein wrote:

 On Nov 5, 2007, at 11:48 PM, Adam R. Maxwell wrote:


 On Nov 5, 2007, at 5:52 PM, Adam M.Goldstein wrote:

 The following search won't bring up new references when I move to  
 the
 second page of search results in google scholar:

 http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=ontologyhl=enlr=start=20sa=N

 The first ten references come up, but then no more do when I  
 navigate
 to more.

 I am showing 10 references at a time. The page doesn't hang up
 loading
 up; the spinner disappears and the stop-loading x turns into a
 relaoding symbol next to the url field.

 I just went through the first seven pages with no problems.  If there
 are no log messages, I have no idea what's wrong.  Sorry.  It really
 sounds like an exception.

 How nice to be exceptional.

  Does anything come up if you search
 Console's All Messages for bibdesk?


 The only BD message that shows up is:

 11/5/07 8:40:29 PM BibDesk[406] Application will quit without
 finishing writing metadata cache.

 I have no idea whether this is related to the web group problems.

 snip


Nothing to do with this. (It just says that you quitted the app  
before it was finished updating the Spotlight cache).



 UI complaint: the import button doesn't change color or shading
 after it's been used to show that the reference has been imported. I
 keep importing the same reference because I can't remember whether I
 did or not and the button doesn't show it, like in the case of  
 Z39.50
 imports.

 Thanks...looks like a flag isn't being set.  I don't know how that
 works, but Christiaan can likely fix it if I don't have time to  
 figure
 it out.  Might be worth a bug report as reminder.


 Submitted!

 =
 Adam M. Goldstein PhD
 Assistant Professor of Philosophy
 Iona College

I'm not sure if I can fix this, I don't precisely know how it works  
for the web group. I can try have a look later.

Christiaan


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[Bibdesk-users] Dublin Core metadata problems

2007-11-06 Thread jiho
Hello everyone,

I am using the New publication from web intensively. I found that  
many sites I visit apparently offer the publication info in Dublin  
Core format: BibDesk detects it and asks me what I want to do with  
it. However, when acceping BibDesk does not do anything with it  
appart from setting the pub type to misc and sometimes adding some  
keywords. I don't know wether the data provided by the sites is  
correctly formated or not so I would like to know what I can do to  
check and/or see this tested by experts on this list ;)

Here are some examples, both of articles in open access so you should  
be able to test completely:

http://compbiol.plosjournals.org/perlserv/?request=cite- 
builderdoi=10.1371/journal.pcbi.0010057

http://www.int-res.com/abstracts/meps/v347/p285-300/

Thank you in advance.

PS: I know I promised a review of the the template editor but I  
simply did not have the time to write anything. I'll do it ASAP.  
Meanwhile, the few elements I tested really worked great.

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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Dublin Core metadata problems

2007-11-06 Thread Christiaan Hofman
It finds as much data as is available an as we know about. So if it  
does not fill in much it simply does not find more. It can be that it  
is data we don't know about, but more probable is that the data is  
not well formed or is simply not available.

Christiaan

On 6 Nov 2007, at 6:15 PM, jiho wrote:

 Hello everyone,

 I am using the New publication from web intensively. I found that
 many sites I visit apparently offer the publication info in Dublin
 Core format: BibDesk detects it and asks me what I want to do with
 it. However, when acceping BibDesk does not do anything with it
 appart from setting the pub type to misc and sometimes adding some
 keywords. I don't know wether the data provided by the sites is
 correctly formated or not so I would like to know what I can do to
 check and/or see this tested by experts on this list ;)

 Here are some examples, both of articles in open access so you should
 be able to test completely:

 http://compbiol.plosjournals.org/perlserv/?request=cite-
 builderdoi=10.1371/journal.pcbi.0010057

 http://www.int-res.com/abstracts/meps/v347/p285-300/

 Thank you in advance.

 PS: I know I promised a review of the the template editor but I
 simply did not have the time to write anything. I'll do it ASAP.
 Meanwhile, the few elements I tested really worked great.

 JiHO
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 http://jo.irisson.free.fr/


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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Dublin Core metadata problems

2007-11-06 Thread jiho

On 2007-November-06  , at 18:33 , Christiaan Hofman wrote:
 It finds as much data as is available an as we know about. So if it
 does not fill in much it simply does not find more. It can be that it
 is data we don't know about, but more probable is that the data is
 not well formed or is simply not available.

Thanks for the answer. Is there a way for me to see this data  
because in the second case, BibDesk detects dublin core data but does  
not add _anything_ to the publication info, so that's strange. I  
guess it is a problem of malformation in the data supplied by the  
journal and I would like to report it to them. To do so, I should  
know what to expect and what they give.

Thanks in advance.

 On 6 Nov 2007, at 6:15 PM, jiho wrote:

 Hello everyone,

 I am using the New publication from web intensively. I found that
 many sites I visit apparently offer the publication info in Dublin
 Core format: BibDesk detects it and asks me what I want to do with
 it. However, when acceping BibDesk does not do anything with it
 appart from setting the pub type to misc and sometimes adding some
 keywords. I don't know wether the data provided by the sites is
 correctly formated or not so I would like to know what I can do to
 check and/or see this tested by experts on this list ;)

 Here are some examples, both of articles in open access so you should
 be able to test completely:

 http://compbiol.plosjournals.org/perlserv/?request=cite-
 builderdoi=10.1371/journal.pcbi.0010057

 http://www.int-res.com/abstracts/meps/v347/p285-300/

 Thank you in advance.

 PS: I know I promised a review of the the template editor but I
 simply did not have the time to write anything. I'll do it ASAP.
 Meanwhile, the few elements I tested really worked great.

 JiHO
 ---
 http://jo.irisson.free.fr/


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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Dublin Core metadata problems

2007-11-06 Thread Adam R. Maxwell
 
On Tuesday, November 06, 2007, at 10:02AM, jiho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 2007-November-06  , at 18:33 , Christiaan Hofman wrote:
 It finds as much data as is available an as we know about. So if it
 does not fill in much it simply does not find more. It can be that it
 is data we don't know about, but more probable is that the data is
 not well formed or is simply not available.

Thanks for the answer. Is there a way for me to see this data  
because in the second case, BibDesk detects dublin core data but does  
not add _anything_ to the publication info, so that's strange. I  
guess it is a problem of malformation in the data supplied by the  
journal and I would like to report it to them. To do so, I should  
know what to expect and what they give.

Do you get a message that the page has Dublin Core META tags?  It looks to me 
as if BibDesk may be misinterpreting that page as containing Dublin Core data.  
Mike is responsible for that code, so hopefully he can explain what's going on; 
I don't have a clue about the data requirements.

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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Dublin Core metadata problems

2007-11-06 Thread Christiaan Hofman

I'm pretty sure the second link does not contain DC, and I don't get  
an alert when I load it in the Web Import. Perhaps the target has  
changed.

Christiaan

On 6 Nov 2007, at 7:01 PM, jiho wrote:


 On 2007-November-06  , at 18:33 , Christiaan Hofman wrote:
 It finds as much data as is available an as we know about. So if it
 does not fill in much it simply does not find more. It can be that it
 is data we don't know about, but more probable is that the data is
 not well formed or is simply not available.

 Thanks for the answer. Is there a way for me to see this data
 because in the second case, BibDesk detects dublin core data but does
 not add _anything_ to the publication info, so that's strange. I
 guess it is a problem of malformation in the data supplied by the
 journal and I would like to report it to them. To do so, I should
 know what to expect and what they give.

 Thanks in advance.

 On 6 Nov 2007, at 6:15 PM, jiho wrote:

 Hello everyone,

 I am using the New publication from web intensively. I found that
 many sites I visit apparently offer the publication info in Dublin
 Core format: BibDesk detects it and asks me what I want to do with
 it. However, when acceping BibDesk does not do anything with it
 appart from setting the pub type to misc and sometimes adding some
 keywords. I don't know wether the data provided by the sites is
 correctly formated or not so I would like to know what I can do to
 check and/or see this tested by experts on this list ;)

 Here are some examples, both of articles in open access so you  
 should
 be able to test completely:

 http://compbiol.plosjournals.org/perlserv/?request=cite-
 builderdoi=10.1371/journal.pcbi.0010057

 http://www.int-res.com/abstracts/meps/v347/p285-300/

 Thank you in advance.

 PS: I know I promised a review of the the template editor but I
 simply did not have the time to write anything. I'll do it ASAP.
 Meanwhile, the few elements I tested really worked great.

 JiHO
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