Re: [Bibdesk-users] Quick Look (was: Re: How to use Web Groups (Google Scholar)?)
Thanks Christiaan, I had a look at the template and I will try. Patrick On Nov 15, 2007 10:08 AM, Christiaan Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The examples are the build-in templates, which you can find in your Application Support folder, and sample templates on the WIki. Basically you just insert a template tag anywhere you want to insert a generated value. Christiaan On Nov 15, 2007 1:04 AM, Patrick Celka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Adam, Many thanks for these hints and the new template is very useful indeed. I tried the pdf and rtf export and preview and they are working perfectly. Now mixing the tags template with html code is where I get stuck. there are plenty of info for the tags on Wiki, but how to use them in html code, for instance: where to put them in the code? I think it would be great to put at least one example on Wiki using some special tags, like conditional tags for author listing, in an html code template. Thanks, Patrick On Nov 13, 2007 3:45 PM, Adam R. Maxwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 12, 2007, at 9:35 PM, Patrick Celka wrote: I have installed BibDesk recently and I found it very useful. As I wanted to export a .bib to html, I found the export to html very handy. However, the available template does not cope well with books, articles, proceedings all mixed together. I have tried to go fishing on the discussion group but found actually not html template made available from other users. Can someone point me towards the right direction, I have not much time to code a new template. There's a graphical template editor in the latest version, available from the File - New Template menu item. You can use a separate template for each type (book, article, proceeding). A top of the top solution would be that bibdesk could export using a bst file. If you have LaTeX/BibTeX installed, you can enable the TeX preview features and export as PDF (full BibTeX) or RTF (limited BibTeX support). -- adam - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] votes on 1.3.12?
On Nov 14, 2007, at 9:57 AM, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: On Wednesday, November 14, 2007, at 09:44AM, Alexander H. Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *With searches, it's clear what can and can't be searched. With Web, it's not (there's also no Help button in the URL bar). Some default bookmarks or a homepage setting (Google Scholar?) might be one way of dealing with this. You mean it's not clear what sites can be scraped? You can search anything you want, since it's just a web page. The lack of help is a bug...we're waiting for someone to fix it ;). Well, true, it might be useful if something were included somewhere about what kinds of sites do work (i.e., which site-scrapers already exist) BTW, clicking on a PDF link in Google Scholar (and presumably elsewhere) loads it quite nicely in the window, but then tells me that it Failed to read HTML string from document. In Leopard, there's a nice floaty window that allows you to open it in Preview, from which you can drag it back into BibDesk... but it would be nice to have an option to attach the PDF as a local-url when it's imported. -A - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] votes on 1.3.12?
On 15 Nov 2007, at 6:40 PM, Alexander H. Montgomery wrote: On Nov 14, 2007, at 9:57 AM, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: On Wednesday, November 14, 2007, at 09:44AM, Alexander H. Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *With searches, it's clear what can and can't be searched. With Web, it's not (there's also no Help button in the URL bar). Some default bookmarks or a homepage setting (Google Scholar?) might be one way of dealing with this. You mean it's not clear what sites can be scraped? You can search anything you want, since it's just a web page. The lack of help is a bug...we're waiting for someone to fix it ;). Well, true, it might be useful if something were included somewhere about what kinds of sites do work (i.e., which site-scrapers already exist) BTW, clicking on a PDF link in Google Scholar (and presumably elsewhere) loads it quite nicely in the window, but then tells me that it Failed to read HTML string from document. In Leopard, there's a nice floaty window that allows you to open it in Preview, from which you can drag it back into BibDesk... but it would be nice to have an option to attach the PDF as a local-url when it's imported. -A That would be impossible. there is no item to link the PDF to. Items that are not imported yet are not editable (and that won't change). Christiaan - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] votes on 1.3.12?
On Nov 15, 2007, at 9:40 AM, Alexander H. Montgomery wrote: On Nov 14, 2007, at 9:57 AM, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: On Wednesday, November 14, 2007, at 09:44AM, Alexander H. Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *With searches, it's clear what can and can't be searched. With Web, it's not (there's also no Help button in the URL bar). Some default bookmarks or a homepage setting (Google Scholar?) might be one way of dealing with this. You mean it's not clear what sites can be scraped? You can search anything you want, since it's just a web page. The lack of help is a bug...we're waiting for someone to fix it ;). Well, true, it might be useful if something were included somewhere about what kinds of sites do work (i.e., which site-scrapers already exist) BTW, clicking on a PDF link in Google Scholar (and presumably elsewhere) loads it quite nicely in the window, but then tells me that it Failed to read HTML string from document. In Leopard, there's a nice floaty window that allows you to open it in Preview, from which you can drag it back into BibDesk... but it would be nice to have an option to attach the PDF as a local-url when it's imported. -A Also, if you do a web search, then a Z39.50 search, then go back and do another web search, the web search import documents pane doesn't change. I can try to make this more specific if that's not easily reproducible. -A - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] How to use Web Groups (JSTOR?)
Hi Ingrid, the web groups feature has specific code for the sites it
supports, not just for any site that returns BibTeX. Currently it
doesn't support JSTOR, but from the looks of things it would be
possible to add it.
Look for it in future versions, development time permitting.
Thanks,
-mike
On 11/9/07, Ingrid Giffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Going on the theory that BibDesk is scraping BibTex from Google Scholar, I
tried a JSTOR experiment.
In BibDesk, I ...
1) did a JSTOR search
2) saved some citations (JSTOR feature)
3) viewed citations
4) chose View and Save CitationsBibTex
5) link didn't load
Thinking that this was only a problem with loading that last link (perhaps
javascript or something), I went directly to JSTOR in my browser and did the
same thing. I got through to the BibTex view, and then copied that URL into
BibDesk to view those BibTex citations. I got to the page this way, but
BibDesk apparently couldn't recognize the format. Should it be able to? The
text looks like this (I include the headers plus one sample citation):
@comment{{ JSTOR CITATION LIST }}
@comment{{ Your use of the JSTOR archive indicates your acceptance of
JSTOR's Terms Conditions of Use http://www.jstor.org/about/terms.html For
questions, please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] }}
@comment{{NUMBER OF CITATIONS :25}}
@article{200203,
ISSN = {1548-1433},
author = {McMahon, April},
copyright = {Copyright 2002 American Anthropological Association},
group = {Book Review Section; Book Reviews},
journal = {American Anthropologist},
jstor_articletype = {Book Review},
jstor_date = {200203},
jstor_formatteddate = {Mar., 2002},
month = {mar},
number = {1},
pages = {374--376},
publisher = {American Anthropological Association},
reviewedauthor_1 = {Renfrew, Colin},
reviewedwork_1 = {America Past, America Present: Genes and Languages in
the Americas and Beyond},
series = {2},
title = {[Untitled]},
url = {http://dx.doi.org/10.1525/aa.2002.104.1.374},
volume = {104},
year = {2002},
}
Thanks,
Ingrid
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Re: [Bibdesk-users] votes on 1.3.12?
On 11/15/07, Christiaan Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 15 Nov 2007, at 7:16 PM, Michael McCracken wrote: On 11/15/07, Christiaan Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 15 Nov 2007, at 6:40 PM, Alexander H. Montgomery wrote: On Nov 14, 2007, at 9:57 AM, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: On Wednesday, November 14, 2007, at 09:44AM, Alexander H. Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *With searches, it's clear what can and can't be searched. With Web, it's not (there's also no Help button in the URL bar). Some default bookmarks or a homepage setting (Google Scholar?) might be one way of dealing with this. You mean it's not clear what sites can be scraped? You can search anything you want, since it's just a web page. The lack of help is a bug...we're waiting for someone to fix it ;). Well, true, it might be useful if something were included somewhere about what kinds of sites do work (i.e., which site-scrapers already exist) BTW, clicking on a PDF link in Google Scholar (and presumably elsewhere) loads it quite nicely in the window, but then tells me that it Failed to read HTML string from document. In Leopard, there's a nice floaty window that allows you to open it in Preview, from which you can drag it back into BibDesk... but it would be nice to have an option to attach the PDF as a local-url when it's imported. -A That would be impossible. there is no item to link the PDF to. Items that are not imported yet are not editable (and that won't change). Just a thought about this - if a user wants to edit an item that isn't imported yet, wouldn't it be safe to assume that they will want to import that item? So this means that once a user changes an item, we just import it for them. Probably there would have to be a notice sheet that explains this (assuming you could choose to not show that notice again). Comments on that idea? I understand it's some work, and the current behavior is easily understood, so I wouldn't fight for it, but it's come up before... -mike The imported item is not the same item as the external item (and it can't be). So it would not make any difference whether it's imported or not. There are many problems if we would make external items editable. E.g. lots of editing expects the item to have a document, which they don't have. I certainly don't feel like looking into it. Fair enough. Thanks, -mike - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users -- Michael McCracken UCSD CSE PhD Candidate research: http://www.cse.ucsd.edu/~mmccrack/ misc: http://michael-mccracken.net/wp/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] How to use Web Groups (Google Scholar)?
On 11/12/07, James Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First, just wanted to say that I am , once again, astounded at the activity on the BibDesk list, and the speed at which new features are proposed, created, constructively criticised, rejigged, and digested into a stable part of this program. I can hardly keep up. I have the same feeling - I certainly can't keep up! I'm just poking through the list for the first time in a while and when I saw this I thought it might be interesting to note that at least in terms of the web group features, I've been wanting to do this feature for years, started writing some of the code for it in November 2006, and first tossed it into the main BibDesk code in January this year. That said, the subsequent velocity of improvements to make it actually usable is always surprising, even though I know very well how fast Christiaan and Adam get things done. -mike BTW, if I try to open a .bib file using QuickLook, I get the raw bibtex text, as might be expected. Is there any way to have a preview of the database as a list of refs in the default preview format? I read that there is a QuickLook plugin for BibDesk, but I don't know what it does. How does QuickLook work? I get the impression that it is effectively a print preview, i.e. a small pdf version of each file, which is stored with the file, and which can therefore be opened without the use of the original program. Is that right? If so, would it be possible to have a button, Create Preview as appears in the Keynote save as dialog box, which would allow to make a pdf version of a bib file, which would be shown when accessed via QuickLook? On Nov 11, 2007, at 1:44 PM, Hendrik wrote: Another question related to Google Scholar: So now we have a one button click way of getting the Google Scholar entry into BibDesk. Which is awesome. What is the easiest way currently to get from there to the PDF and get that filed away using the amazing auto file feature? Are there plans to maybe fully or partially automate this? That is, to have another button click download the PDF file using the first actually working link in Google Scholar and file it away. Yes, I hit this question last week trying to get stuff from Google Scholar. How to associate the PDF of the paper that you have found, with the BibDesk ref that has been scraped. The only way I can think of is for the scraper to find PDF links, which would then be added to the BibDesk ref as a URL, or else to include the link from Google to the journal page as a URL, so that if this URL is clicked on, BibDesk knows which link has been pursued, and hence which reference to associate with which downloaded PDF. BibDesk would also have to keep a watch on the downloads folder, and either have some way to autofile directly, or more likely to open the PDF so that it can be manually dragged to the right ref, and hence autofiled. James Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users -- Michael McCracken UCSD CSE PhD Candidate research: http://www.cse.ucsd.edu/~mmccrack/ misc: http://michael-mccracken.net/wp/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] How to use Web Groups (JSTOR?)
In this case I was just wondering whether BibDesk could grab raw BibTex from
a page when it is presented outright. This could apply to a number of sites,
where you can click on a link and get to BibTex text.
Specific JSTOR functionality would be great, of course. Will look forward to
future developments.
Thanks,
Ingrid
On 11/15/07 11:12 AM, Michael McCracken [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Hi Ingrid, the web groups feature has specific code for the sites it
supports, not just for any site that returns BibTeX. Currently it
doesn't support JSTOR, but from the looks of things it would be
possible to add it.
Look for it in future versions, development time permitting.
Thanks,
-mike
On 11/9/07, Ingrid Giffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Going on the theory that BibDesk is scraping BibTex from Google Scholar, I
tried a JSTOR experiment.
In BibDesk, I ...
1) did a JSTOR search
2) saved some citations (JSTOR feature)
3) viewed citations
4) chose View and Save CitationsBibTex
5) link didn't load
Thinking that this was only a problem with loading that last link (perhaps
javascript or something), I went directly to JSTOR in my browser and did the
same thing. I got through to the BibTex view, and then copied that URL into
BibDesk to view those BibTex citations. I got to the page this way, but
BibDesk apparently couldn't recognize the format. Should it be able to? The
text looks like this (I include the headers plus one sample citation):
@comment{{ JSTOR CITATION LIST }}
@comment{{ Your use of the JSTOR archive indicates your acceptance of
JSTOR's Terms Conditions of Use http://www.jstor.org/about/terms.html For
questions, please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] }}
@comment{{NUMBER OF CITATIONS :25}}
@article{200203,
ISSN = {1548-1433},
author = {McMahon, April},
copyright = {Copyright 2002 American Anthropological Association},
group = {Book Review Section; Book Reviews},
journal = {American Anthropologist},
jstor_articletype = {Book Review},
jstor_date = {200203},
jstor_formatteddate = {Mar., 2002},
month = {mar},
number = {1},
pages = {374--376},
publisher = {American Anthropological Association},
reviewedauthor_1 = {Renfrew, Colin},
reviewedwork_1 = {America Past, America Present: Genes and Languages in
the Americas and Beyond},
series = {2},
title = {[Untitled]},
url = {http://dx.doi.org/10.1525/aa.2002.104.1.374},
volume = {104},
year = {2002},
}
Thanks,
Ingrid
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