On 11/15/07, Christiaan Hofman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 15 Nov 2007, at 7:16 PM, Michael McCracken wrote:
>
> > On 11/15/07, Christiaan Hofman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 15 Nov 2007, at 6:40 PM, Alexander H. Montgomery wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> On Nov 14, 2007, at 9:57 AM, Adam R. Maxwell wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wednesday, November 14, 2007, at 09:44AM, "Alexander H.
> >>>> Montgomery" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>>> *With searches, it's clear what can and can't be searched. With
> >>>>> Web,
> >>>>> it's not (there's also no Help button in the URL bar). Some
> >>>>> default
> >>>>> bookmarks or a homepage setting (Google Scholar?) might be one
> >>>>> way of
> >>>>> dealing with this.
> >>>>
> >>>> You mean it's not clear what sites can be scraped?  You can search
> >>>> anything you want, since it's just a web page.  The lack of help is
> >>>> a bug...we're waiting for someone to fix it ;).
> >>>
> >>> Well, true, it might be useful if something were included somewhere
> >>> about what kinds of sites do work (i.e., which site-scrapers already
> >>> exist)
> >>>
> >>> BTW, clicking on a PDF link in Google Scholar (and presumably
> >>> elsewhere) loads it quite nicely in the window, but then tells me
> >>> that
> >>> it "Failed to read HTML string from document." In Leopard, there's a
> >>> nice floaty window that allows you to open it in Preview, from which
> >>> you can drag it back into BibDesk... but it would be nice to have an
> >>> option to attach the PDF as a local-url when it's imported.
> >>>
> >>> -A
> >>
> >> That would be impossible. there is no item to link the PDF to. Items
> >> that are not imported yet are not editable (and that won't change).
> >>
> >
> > Just a thought about this - if a user wants to edit an item that isn't
> > imported yet, wouldn't it be safe to assume that they will want to
> > import that item?
> > So this means that once a user changes an item, we just import it
> > for them.
> > Probably there would have to be a notice sheet that explains this
> > (assuming you could choose to not show that notice again).
> >
> > Comments on that idea?
> > I understand it's some work, and the current behavior is easily
> > understood, so I wouldn't fight for it, but it's come up before...
> >
> > -mike
>
> The imported item is not the same item as the external item (and it
> can't be). So it would not make any difference whether it's imported
> or not. There are many problems if we would make external items
> editable. E.g. lots of editing expects the item to have a document,
> which they don't have. I certainly don't feel like looking into it.

Fair enough.

Thanks,
-mike

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