Re: [Bibdesk-users] The BibDesk input manager – a question and a plea
I'm sick today so decided to try hacking this into TeXShop myself.
Please download http://homepage.mac.com/amaxwell/.Public/TeXShop.app.zip
. I've basically integrated the guts of the input manager into
TeXShop, using our newer Distributed Objects API. Barely tested, no
warranty, use at your own risk, etc.
This is based on the source from Dick Koch's site, since their svn
repository seems out of date. I removed 30+ MB of QuickTime movies
and PDF files from it so the upload was a reasonable size, which
probably broke some help features. Oh, it's also missing the
Spotlight importer since it doesn't play well with my build setup.
Just a short feedback: So far, this seems to work nicely. No problems
on my part.
Something I didn't notice before: The autocompletion is case
sensitive. It only reacts with lowercase \cite commands. Biblatex
introduces \Cite command with a capital letter. they're meant for
names with a prefix ('von part') at the beginning of the sentence, so
that biblatex knows that it has to capitalize this specific case.
BibDesk's autocompletion ignores this.
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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Preview template
Perhaps you can also link these on the Wiki? Christiaan On 28 Jan 2008, at 7:14 AM, James Harrison wrote: In case it would be useful to anyone, I've put up an RTF template based on the CiteInPages AMAstyle template file that I use for BibDesk's preview pane. Aside from being a compact display containing just what I want (and looking nice with multiple selections), it optionally displays Skim notes for references whose PDFs have them. See http://jhh.med.virginia.edu/main/TemplateNotes and click to Other templates. A few days back someone suggested that it might be convenient to be able to switch the preferences pane quickly between multiple template files. That would be useful for me to allow switching between displays that included the abstract, annotations and Skim notes depending on the level of detail I needed and the task at hand. Jim Harrison Unv. of Virginia -- --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Preview template clarification
A few days back someone suggested that it might be convenient to be able to switch the preview pane quickly between multiple template files. That would be useful for me to allow switching between displays that included the abstract, annotations and Skim notes depending on On Jan 28, 2008, at 5:57 AM, Christiaan Hofman wrote: And did you use the latest nightlies? Christiaan Wow. I don't know if I can deal with this level of instant gratification. However--to give the gift horse a full dental exam: Have you considered the possibility of putting the new template style menu in the contextual menu when you open the CM over the preview pane? Or perhaps a small popup on the bottom border? This would allow a bit more efficient toggling of views, which would be helpful when-- for example--you have a lot of Skim notes. It also seems that there is some overlap between the Template menu item and the Template style menu item in the popout from Preview Display. I wonder whether the Template item could be deleted, and possibly the Template style item below the menu divider could be replaced by the contents of its popout menu. That would reduce the menu tree one level and would also be efficient to use with a contextual popout or a fixed popup with one level. Jim Harrison UVa - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Problem with open by and using TimeMachine on Leopard 5.1
Hi, will try tomorrow (European Time) thanks, Rolf Am 28.01.2008 um 21:37 schrieb Christiaan Hofman: Please try the next nightly build to se of this problem is solved. We will now remove duplicate apps with the same version number. So old versions in time machine may still show up. Christiaan On 27 Jan 2008, at 10:33 PM, Rolf Schmolling wrote: Hello! I noticed sth. peculiar: I wanted to check how well any Skim- highlights would show up in Preview (none…) and tried to open the respective attached pdf-file in BibDesk (the new pane) via ctrl.- click and chosing Preview. Unfortunately an (almost) never-ending line of Acrobats…, Skims… and finally Previews… showed up. Chosing the first one later showed that those were all the apps backed up by TimeMachine. If I try to do the same thing in Finder, the ctrl.-click-menu does look normal. Since I plan NOT to switch of indexing my TimeMachine-Backup-volume, any idea what to do about this problem? My own workaround: show in Finder and THEN using the open by-menu not withstanding. I am sure my launch-services-databse is ok (otherwise I'd have the same problem in Finder). Greetings, Rolf -- Rolf Schmolling M.A. Historian, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://rolf_schmolling.macbay.de/ -- --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users -- Rolf Schmolling M.A. Historian, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://rolf_schmolling.macbay.de/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Question for Autofile in BibDesk 1.3.14
I wish people would actually read the alerts they get. It clearly says that you need to include a unique specifier, which is one of %u, %U or %n. So the answer is: no, you cannot. I don't know what you did after getting the initial alert, but I strongly advice you to go to the Preferences and fix it. All your previously filed items are still valid. Though you could run Auto-File on all items after you change your format. Christiaan On 28 Jan 2008, at 8:51 PM, Yunchang Shin wrote: Hi I have been using local-Url format as %a1(%Y)-%t0%e so far without any problem until 1.3.12. Recently, after I updated with 1.3.14, I can no longer use this combination for my auto filing. it keep saying it is invalid. Does anyone know if I can keep this combination or not? If not, how can I change all of file name I collected so far? And if I drop my file to local-url field in 1.3.14, file name is not followed this combination rule. it happen only when I drop the file into the drop box. Can any one tell me about it too? Thanks Yun The Local-Url and Url fields are now basically just ordinary fields. You should use the blue side pane view for linked files and URLs. Christiaan - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Problem with open by and using TimeMachine on Leopard 5.1
Please try the next nightly build to se of this problem is solved. We will now remove duplicate apps with the same version number. So old versions in time machine may still show up. Christiaan On 27 Jan 2008, at 10:33 PM, Rolf Schmolling wrote: Hello! I noticed sth. peculiar: I wanted to check how well any Skim- highlights would show up in Preview (none…) and tried to open the respective attached pdf-file in BibDesk (the new pane) via ctrl.-click and chosing Preview. Unfortunately an (almost) never-ending line of Acrobats…, Skims… and finally Previews… showed up. Chosing the first one later showed that those were all the apps backed up by TimeMachine. If I try to do the same thing in Finder, the ctrl.-click-menu does look normal. Since I plan NOT to switch of indexing my TimeMachine-Backup-volume, any idea what to do about this problem? My own workaround: show in Finder and THEN using the open by-menu not withstanding. I am sure my launch-services-databse is ok (otherwise I'd have the same problem in Finder). Greetings, Rolf -- Rolf Schmolling M.A. Historian, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://rolf_schmolling.macbay.de/ -- --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] template files preferences
On Jan 28, 2008, at 4:29 PM, Daniele Pontillo wrote: I was installing citeinpages, and couldn't get to change the name of a new template with a double click on the row. This makes useless having templates with citeinpages Do you mean when installing template files as templates in BibDesk's templates preferences? If so, you don't need to do that anymore (as of the last few versions of CiteInPages and BibDesk). The only template that needs to be installed that way is the in text citation template, which hasn't changed any (so your old one will work fine). The other templates, CIP-AMAstyle.rtf and CIP-APAstyle.rtf, just need to be put into the Templates folder. The scripts and BibDesk will find them there without your needing to do any installation. You might take a look at the current readme file--installation has been simplified a good bit. Jim James H. Harrison, Jr., MD, PhD Associate Professor and Director of Clinical Informatics Departments of Public Health Sciences and Pathology University of Virginia Hospital West Complex 3181 PO Box 800717 Charlottesville, VA 22908-0717 Phone: 434-924-8054 | Fax: 434-924-8437 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] template files preferences
Il giorno 28/gen/08, alle ore 22:37, Christiaan Hofman ha scritto: I'm sure you're using Leopard? And you didn't get used to the new editing behavior of tables yet (like changing Finder names)? I beg your pardon. Could you please help me change the name? Christiaan On 28 Jan 2008, at 10:29 PM, Daniele Pontillo wrote: Hello! I was installing citeinpages, and couldn't get to change the name of a new template with a double click on the row. This makes useless having templates with citeinpages Thanks Daniele Pontillo Chief, Echo Lab, Cardiology, Belcolle Hospital Strada Sanmartinese, Viterbo, Italy 01100 Work: +39 0761 339424 Mobile: +39 3383734157 Home: +39 0761 834051 http://www.danpont.it - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users Daniele Pontillo Chief, Echo Lab, Cardiology, Belcolle Hospital Strada Sanmartinese, Viterbo, Italy 01100 Work: +39 0761 339424 Mobile: +39 3383734157 Home: +39 0761 834051 http://www.danpont.it - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] template files preferences
I'm sure you're using Leopard? And you didn't get used to the new editing behavior of tables yet (like changing Finder names)? Christiaan On 28 Jan 2008, at 10:29 PM, Daniele Pontillo wrote: Hello! I was installing citeinpages, and couldn't get to change the name of a new template with a double click on the row. This makes useless having templates with citeinpages Thanks Daniele Pontillo Chief, Echo Lab, Cardiology, Belcolle Hospital Strada Sanmartinese, Viterbo, Italy 01100 Work: +39 0761 339424 Mobile: +39 3383734157 Home: +39 0761 834051 http://www.danpont.it - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Question for Autofile in BibDesk 1.3.14
Hi Am 28.01.2008 um 20:51 schrieb Yunchang Shin: Hi I have been using local-Url format as %a1(%Y)-%t0%e so far without any problem until 1.3.12. Recently, after I updated with 1.3.14, I can no longer use this combination for my auto filing. it keep saying it is invalid. let me guess: it tells you to add a unique specifier, right? In this case you should just do exactly that: add a unique specifier. For the reasons see recent posts on this list. Does anyone know if I can keep this combination or not? If not, how can I change all of file name I collected so far? And if I drop my file to local-url field in 1.3.14, file name is not followed this combination rule. it happen only when I drop the file into the drop box. again, read on this list about the new attached-files-interface. It has all been discussed in great length before and is available in the list's archives. Can any one tell me about it too? Thanks Yun -- --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users = please avoid sending me word attachements; see http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html for details and background - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
[Bibdesk-users] template files preferences
Hello! I was installing citeinpages, and couldn't get to change the name of a new template with a double click on the row. This makes useless having templates with citeinpages Thanks Daniele Pontillo Chief, Echo Lab, Cardiology, Belcolle Hospital Strada Sanmartinese, Viterbo, Italy 01100 Work: +39 0761 339424 Mobile: +39 3383734157 Home: +39 0761 834051 http://www.danpont.it - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Preview template clarification
On 28 Jan 2008, at 7:15 PM, James Harrison wrote: A few days back someone suggested that it might be convenient to be able to switch the preview pane quickly between multiple template files. That would be useful for me to allow switching between displays that included the abstract, annotations and Skim notes depending on On Jan 28, 2008, at 5:57 AM, Christiaan Hofman wrote: And did you use the latest nightlies? Christiaan Wow. I don't know if I can deal with this level of instant gratification. However--to give the gift horse a full dental exam: Have you considered the possibility of putting the new template style menu in the contextual menu when you open the CM over the preview pane? Or perhaps a small popup on the bottom border? This would allow a bit more efficient toggling of views, which would be helpful when-- for example--you have a lot of Skim notes. There are some problems with this. First of all, the preview is not a single view, we can swap in all kind of views all of which handle their own context menu. A popup would mean some annoying layout stuff (in particular inside the horrendous split view). And it would mean an almost empty horizontal space with a single small popup somewhere at the end, which probably won't look to nice. So we have to think about this very hard before trying to add this. In particular as it doesn't gain so much, given that it's already available in 2 places. It also seems that there is some overlap between the Template menu item and the Template style menu item in the popout from Preview Display. I wonder whether the Template item could be deleted, and possibly the Template style item below the menu divider could be replaced by the contents of its popout menu. That would reduce the menu tree one level and would also be efficient to use with a contextual popout or a fixed popup with one level. Jim Harrison UVa That's a possibility. But even though it makes it easier to switch between different templates, it actually makes it harder if you just use one template for the preview. Anyway, there is a good chance the preview pane stuff will get some overhaul, as per a recent discussion. Christiaan - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Question for Autofile in BibDesk 1.3.14
Maybe the dialog box should by default automatically add a unique specifier for the user? Just trying to think about how to make this question come up a little less... -A On 2008-01-28, at 12:43 PM, Christiaan Hofman wrote: I wish people would actually read the alerts they get. It clearly says that you need to include a unique specifier, which is one of %u, %U or %n. So the answer is: no, you cannot. I don't know what you did after getting the initial alert, but I strongly advice you to go to the Preferences and fix it. All your previously filed items are still valid. Though you could run Auto-File on all items after you change your format. Christiaan On 28 Jan 2008, at 8:51 PM, Yunchang Shin wrote: Hi I have been using local-Url format as %a1(%Y)-%t0%e so far without any problem until 1.3.12. Recently, after I updated with 1.3.14, I can no longer use this combination for my auto filing. it keep saying it is invalid. Does anyone know if I can keep this combination or not? If not, how can I change all of file name I collected so far? And if I drop my file to local-url field in 1.3.14, file name is not followed this combination rule. it happen only when I drop the file into the drop box. Can any one tell me about it too? Thanks Yun The Local-Url and Url fields are now basically just ordinary fields. You should use the blue side pane view for linked files and URLs. Christiaan - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Question for Autofile in BibDesk 1.3.14
We don't do that because Apple still does not provide a - readUsersMind method (not even in Leopard). Christiaan On 29 Jan 2008, at 12:21 AM, Alexander H. Montgomery wrote: Maybe the dialog box should by default automatically add a unique specifier for the user? Just trying to think about how to make this question come up a little less... -A On 2008-01-28, at 12:43 PM, Christiaan Hofman wrote: I wish people would actually read the alerts they get. It clearly says that you need to include a unique specifier, which is one of %u, %U or %n. So the answer is: no, you cannot. I don't know what you did after getting the initial alert, but I strongly advice you to go to the Preferences and fix it. All your previously filed items are still valid. Though you could run Auto-File on all items after you change your format. Christiaan On 28 Jan 2008, at 8:51 PM, Yunchang Shin wrote: Hi I have been using local-Url format as %a1(%Y)-%t0%e so far without any problem until 1.3.12. Recently, after I updated with 1.3.14, I can no longer use this combination for my auto filing. it keep saying it is invalid. Does anyone know if I can keep this combination or not? If not, how can I change all of file name I collected so far? And if I drop my file to local-url field in 1.3.14, file name is not followed this combination rule. it happen only when I drop the file into the drop box. Can any one tell me about it too? Thanks Yun The Local-Url and Url fields are now basically just ordinary fields. You should use the blue side pane view for linked files and URLs. Christiaan - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users -- --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Best practices for URL fields?
Generally, the Url and Local-Url fields are deprecated. So don't assume it's there if it's not a standard (required or optional) field. We encourage everyone to remove old style URL fields and switch to the new file layout. The URL field is only to be used for inclusion in the bibliography, in particular for types like url or webpage. So in templates you should most often use something like [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of $urls.Local-Url.path, samilar for the URL. Also $fields.URL, and $URL, was probably never a good choice, as it may contain latex stuff. The first linked file (or URL) should be the most relevant one. On 28 Jan 2008, at 11:11 PM, James Harrison wrote: I know URL fields have been discussed a good bit, but I'd just like to make sure I'm using them as intended in the templates that are supplied with CiteInPages--and that I express accurately to other users any issues in the way I'm using them that they should understand. For several types of references that are commonly accessible electronically, I have an optional end to their template that uses $fields.URL (or just $URL) and lastchecked to generate a statement like Available from url goes here, last checked on date in lastchecked goes here. Since you can have multiple links per file, there is the potential for some confusion. That leads to a couple of comments and questions: $fields.URL has no relation to $URL (in fact, you should never use $URL in a template). For types that have a Url field it makes sense to refer to $fields.URL or $urls.URL. Otherwise, you shouldn't use it. 1. The url and local file fields seem to work fine in separating the links correctly. I assume that the local file field gets everything starting with file: and the url field can contain http, ftp, gopher (if any are left), etc. It appears that mailto:; isn't supported yet :-). There is no local file field (unless you mean something like Local- Url). There are local files. And yes, it gets every file: URL. Otherwise it will be interpreted as a remote URL. 2. My understanding is that there can be multiple URL fields. If so, does $fields.URL get the contents of the first URL field? Also, do I remember correctly that the first field sorts to the top (front, I know it's a grid) of the URLs in the thumbnail previews and that you can change the order of the fields by dragging the thumbnails-- allowing a choice and visual confirmation of what will be returned by $fields.URL? You're mixing up things. Again, you better not think of linked files/ URLs as fields. They are saved to fields, as that's what we need for bibtex, but those fields do not exist in the program. $fields.URL refers to a (real) field named Url. It has no relation to the linked remote URLs (it can be the same, it can be totally different). 3. Can there be more than one lastchecked field and if so is there a linkage between URL fields and lastchecked fields? I'm also OK if there is one lastchecked field that should be associated with the primary (frontmost) URL field. Lastchecked is just an ordinary field. So there's only at most one. It is just what it is set to, there's no relation to any linked file or URL. 4. Does my general approach seem OK for the way URLs and lastchecked are intended to be used now? No, see my remarks. By the way, it would be slick if there was a way from the thumbnail views to set a URL as the main URL and also reset its lastchecked date to today. Jim Harrison UVa The first one is supposed to be the main one. And lastchecked is the user's responsibility, see above. Christiaan - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Question for Autofile in BibDesk 1.3.14
On 1/28/08, Christiaan Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We don't do that because Apple still does not provide a - readUsersMind method (not even in Leopard). well, we don't need readUsersMind. Perhaps we need a createUniqueStringAndAttachItToTheEndOfTheUsersSpecifiedString Since this unique string fragment is needed by the program and not by the user (hence, so many users getting confused by its requirement), it could be anything... it could be a magic time stamp, a random number, whatever. What would the user care. In fact, embed it into something recognizable such as square brackets or parens (I use (%u) ) and the problem is solved. I think Alex has a perfectly reasonable suggestion. That it is doable or not is something I don't have the expertise to comment on. Christiaan On 29 Jan 2008, at 12:21 AM, Alexander H. Montgomery wrote: Maybe the dialog box should by default automatically add a unique specifier for the user? Just trying to think about how to make this question come up a little less... -A On 2008-01-28, at 12:43 PM, Christiaan Hofman wrote: I wish people would actually read the alerts they get. It clearly says that you need to include a unique specifier, which is one of %u, %U or %n. So the answer is: no, you cannot. I don't know what you did after getting the initial alert, but I strongly advice you to go to the Preferences and fix it. All your previously filed items are still valid. Though you could run Auto-File on all items after you change your format. Christiaan On 28 Jan 2008, at 8:51 PM, Yunchang Shin wrote: Hi I have been using local-Url format as %a1(%Y)-%t0%e so far without any problem until 1.3.12. Recently, after I updated with 1.3.14, I can no longer use this combination for my auto filing. it keep saying it is invalid. Does anyone know if I can keep this combination or not? If not, how can I change all of file name I collected so far? And if I drop my file to local-url field in 1.3.14, file name is not followed this combination rule. it happen only when I drop the file into the drop box. Can any one tell me about it too? Thanks Yun The Local-Url and Url fields are now basically just ordinary fields. You should use the blue side pane view for linked files and URLs. Christiaan - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users -- --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users -- Puneet Kishor http://punkish.eidesis.org/ Nelson Institute for Environmental Studies http://www.nelson.wisc.edu/ Open Source Geospatial Foundation (OSGeo) http://www.osgeo.org/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Question for Autofile in BibDesk 1.3.14
On 1/28/08, Christiaan Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 29 Jan 2008, at 12:52 AM, P Kishor wrote: On 1/28/08, Christiaan Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We don't do that because Apple still does not provide a - readUsersMind method (not even in Leopard). well, we don't need readUsersMind. Perhaps we need a createUniqueStringAndAttachItToTheEndOfTheUsersSpecifiedString Since this unique string fragment is needed by the program and not by the user (hence, so many users getting confused by its requirement), it could be anything... it could be a magic time stamp, a random number, whatever. What would the user care. In fact, embed it into something recognizable such as square brackets or parens (I use (%u) ) and the problem is solved. I think Alex has a perfectly reasonable suggestion. That it is doable or not is something I don't have the expertise to comment on. I say that because there is a choice: do you want %u, %U, %n, and how many characters and where? We can't know, because we can't readUsersMind. Doing something arbitrary is wrong. Moreover just sticking it at the end would be wrong because it would screw up the file extension. sorry... by end, I meant end of the base file name. So, in my case where I stick %u2 As We May Think.pdf becomes As We May Think(aa).pdf Now, for me, (aa) is as meaningless as (squarerootofminus1) so I don't care what it is. It could well have been placed there by the tooth fairy. I guess it is needed by the program, so there you have it. Sticking it at the end of the basename means that the extension doesn't get messed up and I can still sort/read my filenames without getting puzzled by the to-me-meaningless unique string. Christiaan Christiaan On 29 Jan 2008, at 12:21 AM, Alexander H. Montgomery wrote: Maybe the dialog box should by default automatically add a unique specifier for the user? Just trying to think about how to make this question come up a little less... -A On 2008-01-28, at 12:43 PM, Christiaan Hofman wrote: I wish people would actually read the alerts they get. It clearly says that you need to include a unique specifier, which is one of %u, %U or %n. So the answer is: no, you cannot. I don't know what you did after getting the initial alert, but I strongly advice you to go to the Preferences and fix it. All your previously filed items are still valid. Though you could run Auto-File on all items after you change your format. Christiaan On 28 Jan 2008, at 8:51 PM, Yunchang Shin wrote: Hi I have been using local-Url format as %a1(%Y)-%t0%e so far without any problem until 1.3.12. Recently, after I updated with 1.3.14, I can no longer use this combination for my auto filing. it keep saying it is invalid. Does anyone know if I can keep this combination or not? If not, how can I change all of file name I collected so far? And if I drop my file to local-url field in 1.3.14, file name is not followed this combination rule. it happen only when I drop the file into the drop box. Can any one tell me about it too? Thanks Yun The Local-Url and Url fields are now basically just ordinary fields. You should use the blue side pane view for linked files and URLs. Christiaan .. -- Puneet Kishor http://punkish.eidesis.org/ Nelson Institute for Environmental Studies http://www.nelson.wisc.edu/ Open Source Geospatial Foundation (OSGeo) http://www.osgeo.org/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Question for Autofile in BibDesk 1.3.14
On 29 Jan 2008, at 12:52 AM, P Kishor wrote: On 1/28/08, Christiaan Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We don't do that because Apple still does not provide a - readUsersMind method (not even in Leopard). well, we don't need readUsersMind. Perhaps we need a createUniqueStringAndAttachItToTheEndOfTheUsersSpecifiedString Since this unique string fragment is needed by the program and not by the user (hence, so many users getting confused by its requirement), it could be anything... it could be a magic time stamp, a random number, whatever. What would the user care. In fact, embed it into something recognizable such as square brackets or parens (I use (%u) ) and the problem is solved. I think Alex has a perfectly reasonable suggestion. That it is doable or not is something I don't have the expertise to comment on. I say that because there is a choice: do you want %u, %U, %n, and how many characters and where? We can't know, because we can't readUsersMind. Doing something arbitrary is wrong. Moreover just sticking it at the end would be wrong because it would screw up the file extension. Christiaan Christiaan On 29 Jan 2008, at 12:21 AM, Alexander H. Montgomery wrote: Maybe the dialog box should by default automatically add a unique specifier for the user? Just trying to think about how to make this question come up a little less... -A On 2008-01-28, at 12:43 PM, Christiaan Hofman wrote: I wish people would actually read the alerts they get. It clearly says that you need to include a unique specifier, which is one of %u, %U or %n. So the answer is: no, you cannot. I don't know what you did after getting the initial alert, but I strongly advice you to go to the Preferences and fix it. All your previously filed items are still valid. Though you could run Auto-File on all items after you change your format. Christiaan On 28 Jan 2008, at 8:51 PM, Yunchang Shin wrote: Hi I have been using local-Url format as %a1(%Y)-%t0%e so far without any problem until 1.3.12. Recently, after I updated with 1.3.14, I can no longer use this combination for my auto filing. it keep saying it is invalid. Does anyone know if I can keep this combination or not? If not, how can I change all of file name I collected so far? And if I drop my file to local-url field in 1.3.14, file name is not followed this combination rule. it happen only when I drop the file into the drop box. Can any one tell me about it too? Thanks Yun The Local-Url and Url fields are now basically just ordinary fields. You should use the blue side pane view for linked files and URLs. Christiaan --- -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users -- --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users -- Puneet Kishor http://punkish.eidesis.org/ Nelson Institute for Environmental Studies http://www.nelson.wisc.edu/ Open Source Geospatial Foundation (OSGeo) http://www.osgeo.org/ -- --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
