Re: [Bibdesk-users] Lion?
On Aug 21, 2011, at 17:46, "Adam R. Maxwell" wrote: > > On Aug 21, 2011, at 14:35 , Christiaan Hofman wrote: > >> Could it help if the background of the fileview is transparent and only the >> scrollview draws the background? Or is the problem in the scrollview? > > Interesting idea; I tried a few things, but don't know if I tried setting the > scrollview/clipview background color. When you scroll down, you see a > dividing line where it looks like the gradient starts with its original upper > color, sort of like the recently-read thumbnail background colors in Skim. > I thought that something like this might have been happening---a recently selected document or something. -- Get a FREE DOWNLOAD! and learn more about uberSVN rich system, user administration capabilities and model configuration. Take the hassle out of deploying and managing Subversion and the tools developers use with it. http://p.sf.net/sfu/wandisco-d2d-2 ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Lion?
On Aug 21, 2011, at 14:35 , Christiaan Hofman wrote: > Could it help if the background of the fileview is transparent and only the > scrollview draws the background? Or is the problem in the scrollview? Interesting idea; I tried a few things, but don't know if I tried setting the scrollview/clipview background color. When you scroll down, you see a dividing line where it looks like the gradient starts with its original upper color, sort of like the recently-read thumbnail background colors in Skim. -- Adam -- Get a FREE DOWNLOAD! and learn more about uberSVN rich system, user administration capabilities and model configuration. Take the hassle out of deploying and managing Subversion and the tools developers use with it. http://p.sf.net/sfu/wandisco-d2d-2 ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Lion?
On Aug 21, 2011, at 21:47, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: > > On Aug 21, 2011, at 12:26 , Christiaan Hofman wrote: > >> Really, none of this is our fault. We just put a few scroll views there, and >> how they respond to events is all up to the system. If mouse events don't go >> to the (scroll) view below the mouse (or some superview) that's a Lion bug. > > Indeed. I'll try and look at that tomorrow when I have access to Lion again. > > For anyone seeing this, does it occur if you drag the scrollers, or only if > you use a swipe? Further, does it occur if you have scrollers set to always > display? > >> And as for the background color, that also must be a Lion problem, because >> we explicitly set them to the exact same color (really the same, not just >> equivalent). > > That's a bug in Lion that I didn't get around to filing, unfortunately. The > sourcelist background gradient doesn't redraw correctly after scrolling. I > even have a demo project somewhere here to reproduce it... > > -- > Adam Could it help if the background of the fileview is transparent and only the scrollview draws the background? Or is the problem in the scrollview? Christiaan -- Get a FREE DOWNLOAD! and learn more about uberSVN rich system, user administration capabilities and model configuration. Take the hassle out of deploying and managing Subversion and the tools developers use with it. http://p.sf.net/sfu/wandisco-d2d-2 ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Lion?
On Aug 21, 2011, at 12:26 , Christiaan Hofman wrote: > Really, none of this is our fault. We just put a few scroll views there, and > how they respond to events is all up to the system. If mouse events don't go > to the (scroll) view below the mouse (or some superview) that's a Lion bug. Indeed. I'll try and look at that tomorrow when I have access to Lion again. For anyone seeing this, does it occur if you drag the scrollers, or only if you use a swipe? Further, does it occur if you have scrollers set to always display? > And as for the background color, that also must be a Lion problem, because we > explicitly set them to the exact same color (really the same, not just > equivalent). That's a bug in Lion that I didn't get around to filing, unfortunately. The sourcelist background gradient doesn't redraw correctly after scrolling. I even have a demo project somewhere here to reproduce it... -- Adam -- Get a FREE DOWNLOAD! and learn more about uberSVN rich system, user administration capabilities and model configuration. Take the hassle out of deploying and managing Subversion and the tools developers use with it. http://p.sf.net/sfu/wandisco-d2d-2 ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Lion?
On Aug 21, 2011, at 21:04, Adam M. Goldstein wrote: > > On Aug 21, 2011, at 6:35 AM, Christiaan Hofman wrote: > >> >> On Aug 19, 2011, at 21:06, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: >> >>> >>> On Aug 19, 2011, at 11:07 , Adam M. Goldstein wrote: >>> I wasn't going to bring this up because it sounded too complicated at first but I thought that if say ten of us chipped in $4 each or whatever, we could outfit Christiaan (and maybe Adam?) with an installation of Lion, >>> >>> I have Lion at home, but I don't use it. There are two primary reasons: >>> >>> 1) I use Snow Leopard every day at work, and switching between them is >>> annoying (Duplicate vs Save As) >>> >>> 2) Xcode 3 isn't supported under Lion (I think the Xcode 4 >>> single-window-multiple-document interface sucks, and it also drops true >>> 10.5.x support) >>> >>> For other reasons, TidBITS has a nice summary: >>> >>> http://tidbits.com/article/12412 >>> >>> I might start using Lion at some point just to get security and maintenance >>> updates, but for the first time since 10.0 Public Beta, the changes I >>> dislike outweigh the ones I like. YMMV. >>> so we could start seeing the stuff like the full screen mode and the changes to the scroll bars. It's going to have to happen sometime, I suppose. >>> >>> I'm not sure why you'd want to use BibDesk in full screen mode, at least >>> for editing or adding references. The scrollers could have issues with the >>> file view layout, but should work fine in the legacy mode; I consider >>> hiding them to be one of Apple's worst design mistakes in recent history. >>> >>> -- >>> Adam >> >> I did enable the full screen feature on Lion for the main window in today's >> nightly, considering that for those who are not interested in it the >> intrusion is minimal (just a small button in the title bar). For this reason >> I also did no bother to add a menu item. >> >> I also realized that with the vanishing scroll bars the zoom popups in the >> previews would also be vanishing. So (I think) I fixed that in todays >> nightly, always forcing these scrollers to be shown. I also made it look >> more like the Lion scrollbars. Can someone confirm that's working? > > > I am still seeing some issues. > > - Scrolling in the right side preview pane can cause the records table to > scroll. > - Scrolling in the records table can cause the right side preview to scroll. > - Scrolling in the groups pane can cause the records table to scroll. > - In the right side preview pane, the background below the bottom of the > window is a different color when it is brought into view than the background > that was visible the whole time. Ie if the number of documents is enough so > that the pane goes below the bottom of the screen, when I pull up those > documents "hidden" "off the screen" at the bottom, the background is a > lighter color blue than the part that was visible before scrolling had > occurred. > > The scrolling problems are intermittent. It seems to happen when I select > something in one pane/window, then move the pointer over another, and try to > scroll. EG I select a pdf in the documents pane on the right, then move the > mouse pointer over the main table, and scroll up and down in the main table. > When the scroller reaches a certain point, the documents in the preview pane > will start scrolling in the same direction. I can't tell what that point is. > The problem is intermittent because it goes away after a few times scrolling > up and down. > > I hope this helps, I probably won't get back to testing until tomorrow... > > Adam > > -- > Adam M. Goldstein PhD, MSLIS > -- Really, none of this is our fault. We just put a few scroll views there, and how they respond to events is all up to the system. If mouse events don't go to the (scroll) view below the mouse (or some superview) that's a Lion bug. And as for the background color, that also must be a Lion problem, because we explicitly set them to the exact same color (really the same, not just equivalent). Christiaan -- Get a FREE DOWNLOAD! and learn more about uberSVN rich system, user administration capabilities and model configuration. Take the hassle out of deploying and managing Subversion and the tools developers use with it. http://p.sf.net/sfu/wandisco-d2d-2 ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Lion?
On Aug 21, 2011, at 6:35 AM, Christiaan Hofman wrote: > > On Aug 19, 2011, at 21:06, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: > >> >> On Aug 19, 2011, at 11:07 , Adam M. Goldstein wrote: >> >>> I wasn't going to bring this up because it sounded too complicated at first >>> but I thought that if say ten of us chipped in $4 each or whatever, we >>> could outfit Christiaan (and maybe Adam?) with an installation of Lion, >> >> I have Lion at home, but I don't use it. There are two primary reasons: >> >> 1) I use Snow Leopard every day at work, and switching between them is >> annoying (Duplicate vs Save As) >> >> 2) Xcode 3 isn't supported under Lion (I think the Xcode 4 >> single-window-multiple-document interface sucks, and it also drops true >> 10.5.x support) >> >> For other reasons, TidBITS has a nice summary: >> >> http://tidbits.com/article/12412 >> >> I might start using Lion at some point just to get security and maintenance >> updates, but for the first time since 10.0 Public Beta, the changes I >> dislike outweigh the ones I like. YMMV. >> >>> so we could start seeing the stuff like the full screen mode and the >>> changes to the scroll bars. It's going to have to happen sometime, I >>> suppose. >> >> I'm not sure why you'd want to use BibDesk in full screen mode, at least for >> editing or adding references. The scrollers could have issues with the file >> view layout, but should work fine in the legacy mode; I consider hiding them >> to be one of Apple's worst design mistakes in recent history. >> >> -- >> Adam > > I did enable the full screen feature on Lion for the main window in today's > nightly, considering that for those who are not interested in it the > intrusion is minimal (just a small button in the title bar). For this reason > I also did no bother to add a menu item. > > I also realized that with the vanishing scroll bars the zoom popups in the > previews would also be vanishing. So (I think) I fixed that in todays > nightly, always forcing these scrollers to be shown. I also made it look more > like the Lion scrollbars. Can someone confirm that's working? I am still seeing some issues. - Scrolling in the right side preview pane can cause the records table to scroll. - Scrolling in the records table can cause the right side preview to scroll. - Scrolling in the groups pane can cause the records table to scroll. - In the right side preview pane, the background below the bottom of the window is a different color when it is brought into view than the background that was visible the whole time. Ie if the number of documents is enough so that the pane goes below the bottom of the screen, when I pull up those documents "hidden" "off the screen" at the bottom, the background is a lighter color blue than the part that was visible before scrolling had occurred. The scrolling problems are intermittent. It seems to happen when I select something in one pane/window, then move the pointer over another, and try to scroll. EG I select a pdf in the documents pane on the right, then move the mouse pointer over the main table, and scroll up and down in the main table. When the scroller reaches a certain point, the documents in the preview pane will start scrolling in the same direction. I can't tell what that point is. The problem is intermittent because it goes away after a few times scrolling up and down. I hope this helps, I probably won't get back to testing until tomorrow... Adam -- Adam M. Goldstein PhD, MSLIS -- z_california...@shiftingbalance.org http://www.shiftingbalance.org http://www.twitter.com/shiftingbalance -- http://www.itis.gov/servlet/SingleRpt/SingleRpt?search_topic=TSN&search_value=180621 -- Associate Editor Reviews Editor Evolution: Education & Outreach http://www.springer.com/life+sci/journal/12052 -- Spellman 205 (914) 637-2717 (msg) -- Dept of Philosophy Iona College 715 North Avenue New Rochelle NY 10801 http://www.iona.edu/faculty/agoldstein -- Get a FREE DOWNLOAD! and learn more about uberSVN rich system, user administration capabilities and model configuration. Take the hassle out of deploying and managing Subversion and the tools developers use with it. http://p.sf.net/sfu/wandisco-d2d-2 ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Lion?
On Aug 21, 2011, at 6:35 AM, Christiaan Hofman wrote: > > > I did enable the full screen feature on Lion for the main window in today's > nightly, considering that for those who are not interested in it the > intrusion is minimal (just a small button in the title bar). For this reason > I also did no bother to add a menu item. > > I also realized that with the vanishing scroll bars the zoom popups in the > previews would also be vanishing. So (I think) I fixed that in todays > nightly, always forcing these scrollers to be shown. I also made it look more > like the Lion scrollbars. Can someone confirm that's working? > I'll try it and get back to you (the list). Adam -- Adam M. Goldstein PhD, MSLIS -- z_california...@shiftingbalance.org http://www.shiftingbalance.org http://www.twitter.com/shiftingbalance -- http://www.itis.gov/servlet/SingleRpt/SingleRpt?search_topic=TSN&search_value=180621 -- Associate Editor Reviews Editor Evolution: Education & Outreach http://www.springer.com/life+sci/journal/12052 -- Spellman 205 (914) 637-2717 (msg) -- Dept of Philosophy Iona College 715 North Avenue New Rochelle NY 10801 http://www.iona.edu/faculty/agoldstein -- Get a FREE DOWNLOAD! and learn more about uberSVN rich system, user administration capabilities and model configuration. Take the hassle out of deploying and managing Subversion and the tools developers use with it. http://p.sf.net/sfu/wandisco-d2d-2 ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Lion?
On Aug 19, 2011, at 21:06, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: > > On Aug 19, 2011, at 11:07 , Adam M. Goldstein wrote: > >> I wasn't going to bring this up because it sounded too complicated at first >> but I thought that if say ten of us chipped in $4 each or whatever, we could >> outfit Christiaan (and maybe Adam?) with an installation of Lion, > > I have Lion at home, but I don't use it. There are two primary reasons: > > 1) I use Snow Leopard every day at work, and switching between them is > annoying (Duplicate vs Save As) > > 2) Xcode 3 isn't supported under Lion (I think the Xcode 4 > single-window-multiple-document interface sucks, and it also drops true > 10.5.x support) > > For other reasons, TidBITS has a nice summary: > > http://tidbits.com/article/12412 > > I might start using Lion at some point just to get security and maintenance > updates, but for the first time since 10.0 Public Beta, the changes I dislike > outweigh the ones I like. YMMV. > >> so we could start seeing the stuff like the full screen mode and the changes >> to the scroll bars. It's going to have to happen sometime, I suppose. > > I'm not sure why you'd want to use BibDesk in full screen mode, at least for > editing or adding references. The scrollers could have issues with the file > view layout, but should work fine in the legacy mode; I consider hiding them > to be one of Apple's worst design mistakes in recent history. > > -- > Adam I did enable the full screen feature on Lion for the main window in today's nightly, considering that for those who are not interested in it the intrusion is minimal (just a small button in the title bar). For this reason I also did no bother to add a menu item. I also realized that with the vanishing scroll bars the zoom popups in the previews would also be vanishing. So (I think) I fixed that in todays nightly, always forcing these scrollers to be shown. I also made it look more like the Lion scrollbars. Can someone confirm that's working? Christiaan -- Get a FREE DOWNLOAD! and learn more about uberSVN rich system, user administration capabilities and model configuration. Take the hassle out of deploying and managing Subversion and the tools developers use with it. http://p.sf.net/sfu/wandisco-d2d-2 ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] J App Phys bibtex not recognized by bibdesk
Indeed. Regards, Andreas On 18/Aug/2011, at 17:13 , Themis Matsoukas wrote: > On Aug 17, 2011, at 12:25 PM, Fischlin Andreas wrote: > >> Yes, it may be a problem with the APL exporter. You need to teach those web >> guys proper BibTeX. Unfortunately, in my experience you have to do that with >> many. I sent feedback on these simple mistakes already to Science, Nature, >> PNAS and many more. At least that's the only thing I see we can do, and >> gradually they learn and things get slowly, slowly better. > > Well, it is good to know that AIP is responsive: > > From: Scitation Help Desk > Subject: RE: Bibtex downloads are broken > Date: August 18, 2011 10:45:43 AM EDT > To: 'Themis Matsoukas' > > Dear Themis Matsoukas, > > Thank you for contacting the Scitation Help Desk and providing the below > information. > > Our technicial department is aware of the bibtex error and are working > diligently to have it fixed. > > If you have any questions or concerns, please let us know. > > Sincerely, > Esther Zirkiev > > Scitation Online Services Help Desk > American Institute of Physics > Email: h...@scitation.org > Toll Free US/Canada: 1 800 874-6383 > International: 1 516 576-2664 > FAX: 1 516 349-9704 > > -- > Get a FREE DOWNLOAD! and learn more about uberSVN rich system, > user administration capabilities and model configuration. Take > the hassle out of deploying and managing Subversion and the > tools developers use with it. http://p.sf.net/sfu/wandisco-d2d-2 > ___ > Bibdesk-users mailing list > Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users -- Get a FREE DOWNLOAD! and learn more about uberSVN rich system, user administration capabilities and model configuration. Take the hassle out of deploying and managing Subversion and the tools developers use with it. http://p.sf.net/sfu/wandisco-d2d-2 ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
