On Aug 21, 2011, at 21:04, Adam M. Goldstein wrote:

> 
> On Aug 21, 2011, at 6:35 AM, Christiaan Hofman wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Aug 19, 2011, at 21:06, Adam R. Maxwell wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On Aug 19, 2011, at 11:07 , Adam M. Goldstein wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I wasn't going to bring this up because it sounded too complicated at 
>>>> first but I thought that if say ten of us chipped in $4 each or whatever, 
>>>> we could outfit Christiaan (and maybe Adam?) with an installation of Lion,
>>> 
>>> I have Lion at home, but I don't use it. There are two primary reasons:
>>> 
>>> 1) I use Snow Leopard every day at work, and switching between them is 
>>> annoying (Duplicate vs Save As)
>>> 
>>> 2) Xcode 3 isn't supported under Lion (I think the Xcode 4 
>>> single-window-multiple-document interface sucks, and it also drops true 
>>> 10.5.x support)
>>> 
>>> For other reasons, TidBITS has a nice summary: 
>>> 
>>> http://tidbits.com/article/12412
>>> 
>>> I might start using Lion at some point just to get security and maintenance 
>>> updates, but for the first time since 10.0 Public Beta, the changes I 
>>> dislike outweigh the ones I like.  YMMV.
>>> 
>>>> so we could start seeing the stuff like the full screen mode and the 
>>>> changes to the scroll bars. It's going to have to happen sometime, I 
>>>> suppose.
>>> 
>>> I'm not sure why you'd want to use BibDesk in full screen mode, at least 
>>> for editing or adding references.  The scrollers could have issues with the 
>>> file view layout, but should work fine in the legacy mode; I consider 
>>> hiding them to be one of Apple's worst design mistakes in recent history.
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Adam
>> 
>> I did enable the full screen feature on Lion for the main window in today's 
>> nightly, considering that for those who are not interested in it the 
>> intrusion is minimal (just a small button in the title bar). For this reason 
>> I also did no bother to add a menu item.
>> 
>> I also realized that with the vanishing scroll bars the zoom popups in the 
>> previews would also be vanishing. So (I think) I fixed that in todays 
>> nightly, always forcing these scrollers to be shown. I also made it look 
>> more like the Lion scrollbars. Can someone confirm that's working?
> 
> 
> I am still seeing some issues.
> 
> - Scrolling in the right side preview pane can cause the records table to 
> scroll.
> - Scrolling in the records table can cause the right side preview to scroll.
> - Scrolling in the groups pane can cause the records table to scroll.
> - In the right side preview pane, the background below the bottom of the 
> window is a different color when it is brought into view than the background 
> that was visible the whole time. Ie if the number of documents is enough so 
> that the pane goes below the bottom of the screen, when I pull up those 
> documents "hidden" "off the screen" at the bottom, the background is a 
> lighter color blue than the part that was visible before scrolling had 
> occurred.
> 
> The scrolling problems are intermittent. It seems to happen when I select 
> something in one pane/window, then move the pointer over another, and try to 
> scroll. EG I select a pdf in the documents pane on the right, then move the 
> mouse pointer over the main table, and scroll up and down in the main table. 
> When the scroller reaches a certain point, the documents in the preview pane 
> will start scrolling in the same direction. I can't tell what that point is. 
> The problem is intermittent because it goes away after a few times scrolling 
> up and down.
> 
> I hope this helps, I probably won't get back to testing until tomorrow...
> 
> Adam 
> 
> ------------------
> Adam M. Goldstein PhD, MSLIS
> --

Really, none of this is our fault. We just put a few scroll views there, and 
how they respond to events is all up to the system. If mouse events don't go to 
the (scroll) view below the mouse (or some superview) that's a Lion bug.

And as for the background color, that also must be a Lion problem, because we 
explicitly set them to the exact same color (really the same, not just 
equivalent). 

Christiaan


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