Re: [Bibdesk-users] Autofiling question
On Jan 7, 2013, at 7:32 AM, Christiaan Hofman wrote: > > On Jan 7, 2013, at 3:28, Dr. Adam M. Goldstein PhD MSLIS wrote: > >> On Dec 11, 2012, at 5:17 AM, Christiaan Hofman wrote: >> >> >> I followed the steps above, or at least, tried my best. It didn't work. The >> papers remained linked to the directory called Papers-1 wherever I moved it. > > In the above I assumed they were linked in the (old) Papers. Not some other > place like Papers-1. If they link there, they won't be relinked to some old > location, and there's no way to tell them to. So you need to move the folder > where they are linked to back to the (old) location first. Or you start the > whole thing from Papers-1. > >> This, even after I deleted the preferences file, selected and re-selected >> Papers. > > Preferences, again, are completely irrelevant for this. that is *only* for > auto-filing (looking up is not filing). > >> I created a disk image and put the Papers-1 directory on it, and then >> ejected it, so it could no longer be found. Now none of the PDF's will link >> to any folder, including Papers-1, no matter where I move it. >> > > Putting papers on an external volume is dangerous. You cannot just move them > there from outside BibDesk, because then BibDesk will loose them. This is > because the files won't be moved, but rather they're copied (you can't move > between disks, only copy). And then both the file identity and the (absolute > and relative) path changes, which means all links are severed. The only way > you can do this is if you move *both* the files and the .bib file at the same > time (with BibDesk not opening the .bib file), so that the relative paths > remain the same. > > It is not completely clear where your setup stands at this point. I hope you > have a backup (that works), otherwise you may not be able to get the links > back. > > HTH Unfortunately, I think I have mangled things so badly that I am going to have to reattach all the files by hand. I will take a look at the Applescripting possibilities. The PDF's are named using the cite keys as a basis, so it will be pretty easy to connect the PDF with the record. I suppose I couldn't just leave well enough alone! -- Adam M. Goldstein PhD, MSLIS -- z_california...@shiftingbalance.org http://www.shiftingbalance.org http://www.twitter.com/z_californianus -- http://www.itis.gov/servlet/SingleRpt/SingleRpt?search_topic=TSN&search_value=180621 -- Associate Editor Reviews Editor Evolution: Education & Outreach http://www.springer.com/life+sci/journal/12052 http://www.twitter.com/EEOblogger -- Spellman 205 (914) 637-2717 (msg) -- Dept of Philosophy Iona College 715 North Avenue New Rochelle NY 10801 http://www.iona.edu/faculty/agoldstein -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. ON SALE this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_122712___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] two versions of bibliography
Thanks Jonas and Christiaan for your help; much appreciated. john On 8 Jan 2013, at 17:36, Jonas Zimmermann wrote: > You don't say whether you use latex or not. If you do, I encourage you to > explore the possibilities of biblatex. It allows you to easily adjust > citation and bibliography styles to your taste. This, together with the > macros for journal title Christiaan mentioned, is how I did my thesis and > other writings. > Jonas > > -- > Jonas Zimmermann, PhD > Institute of Neuroscience > Newcastle University > UK > > On 8 Jan 2013, at 08:00, John Wickerson wrote: > >> Hi BibDesk, >> >> What is the "right" way to handle the following use-case? >> >> I have a master .bib file, contain full details for every entry. This >> version is ideal for my PhD thesis, which has no word limit (at least not in >> the bibliography). >> >> But when I'm writing a conference paper, I have to condense the bibliography >> to fit inside a strict page limit. To do this, I copy all the entries I >> want into a new .bib file, and manually delete all the page numbers, >> editors' names, and so on, and use shortened forms of journal and conference >> names. >> >> The result is that I now have two .bib files, one with full details, and one >> that is abbreviated. This is obviously bad, as it's hard to keep the two >> in-sync. So what's the "right" way to handle this situation in BibDesk? >> >> Thanks very much for your help. >> >> john >> -- >> Master SQL Server Development, Administration, T-SQL, SSAS, SSIS, SSRS >> and more. Get SQL Server skills now (including 2012) with LearnDevNow - >> 200+ hours of step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. >> SALE $99.99 this month only - learn more at: >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_122512 >> ___ >> Bibdesk-users mailing list >> Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users > > -- > Master SQL Server Development, Administration, T-SQL, SSAS, SSIS, SSRS > and more. Get SQL Server skills now (including 2012) with LearnDevNow - > 200+ hours of step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. > SALE $99.99 this month only - learn more at: > http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_122512 > ___ > Bibdesk-users mailing list > Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. ON SALE this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_122712 ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] AuthorOrEditor in autofiling
On Jan 10, 2013, at 14:34, James Harrison wrote: > On Jan 10, 2013, at 8:20 AM, Christiaan Hofman wrote: > >> I think it would be reasonable to have at least one default choice that >> allows authorOrEditor, as many people will have reference lists that may >> include articles and books, and the books may have editors rather than >> authors. > ... >> >> Sorry, we cannot do this. Changing the set of presets is real mess, as it >> breaks backwards compatibility. So the only reason we would ever do that is >> to fix a bug. Not to add convenience. > > Sorry, I used poor terminology. By "default choice" I meant the inclusion of > an authorOrEditor choice in the popup menu in preferences, perhaps as the > last choice so that the position of previous items doesn't change, not as the > default selection. That would highlight the availability of the option, > particularly to new users. Does that help or is there still a backwards > compatibility issue? > > Jim Harrison > UVA Yes, that's what I'm talking about. Christiaan -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. ON SALE this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_122712 ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] AuthorOrEditor in autofiling
On Jan 10, 2013, at 8:20 AM, Christiaan Hofman wrote: > I think it would be reasonable to have at least one default choice that > allows authorOrEditor, as many people will have reference lists that may > include articles and books, and the books may have editors rather than > authors. ... > > Sorry, we cannot do this. Changing the set of presets is real mess, as it > breaks backwards compatibility. So the only reason we would ever do that is > to fix a bug. Not to add convenience. Sorry, I used poor terminology. By "default choice" I meant the inclusion of an authorOrEditor choice in the popup menu in preferences, perhaps as the last choice so that the position of previous items doesn't change, not as the default selection. That would highlight the availability of the option, particularly to new users. Does that help or is there still a backwards compatibility issue? Jim Harrison UVA -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. ON SALE this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_122712 ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] AuthorOrEditor in autofiling
On Jan 8, 2013, at 22:10, Dr. Adam M. Goldstein PhD MSLIS wrote: > On Jan 8, 2013, at 13:59, James Harrison wrote: > >> On Jan 8, 2013, at 1:37 PM, Dr. Adam M. Goldstein PhD MSLIS >> wrote: >> I think it would be reasonable to have at least one default choice that allows authorOrEditor, as many people will have reference lists that may include articles and books, and the books may have editors rather than authors. >>> >>> I can second this. Many times I fill in the author field with editor's >>> name, generate the cite key and autofile name, and then delete the name in >>> the author field. >> >> >> Just FYI, this is relatively easy to fix in the interim by going to both the >> auto file and cite key panels in preferences, clicking "Advanced," and then >> changing %a to %p in the format string (leave everything else the same). >> This will drop back to using the editor name if there is no author name. >> > > Thanks, that's useful. I didn't realize that %p would go to editor if no > author is found! > >> Jim Harrison >> UVA Sorry, we cannot do this. Changing the set of presets is real mess, as it breaks backwards compatibility. So the only reason we would ever do that is to fix a bug. Not to add convenience. Christiaan -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. ON SALE this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_122712 ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
