Re: [Bibdesk-users] RIS import from Wiley InterScience not working
The RIS from that site is incomplete, it misses a TY entry (publication type). And that is precisely what we use to recognize RIS, so BibDesk cannot identify it as RIS. If you can I'd file a bug report with them and ask them to correct it in the future (but don't hold your breath, as they're commercial). Christiaan On 2 Nov 2007, at 2:40 PM, Bertolt Meyer wrote: Hi all, I am having trouble with importing RIS-formatted citations from Wiley InterScience into bibdesk. For example: On this page: http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/cgi-bin/abstract/112417957/ABSTRACT I click on Download Citation. On the following page, I select Plain Text/Citation/Mac and press ok. Safari then downloads a .RIS-file to my Download-Folder. It has a BibDesk-Icon so it is obviously associated with it. When I double-click the file in the Finder, an empty BibDesk-Window opens and nothing happens. When I open the file with a text editor (Smultron), highlight all and Select Bibdesk - Add to Bibliography from the Services Menu, nothing happens. What am I missing? I use BibDesk 1.3.10 on MacOS 10.5.0. Thanks for your help, Bertolt -- Bertolt Meyer Oberassistent Psychologisches Institut Universität Zürich Sozialpsychologie Binzmühlestr. 14 / 1, Box 15 CH-8050 Zürich [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel: +41446357282 fax: +41446357279 mob: +41788966111 - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
[Bibdesk-users] RIS import from Wiley InterScience not working
Hi all, I am having trouble with importing RIS-formatted citations from Wiley InterScience into bibdesk. For example: On this page: http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/cgi-bin/abstract/112417957/ABSTRACT I click on Download Citation. On the following page, I select Plain Text/Citation/Mac and press ok. Safari then downloads a .RIS-file to my Download-Folder. It has a BibDesk-Icon so it is obviously associated with it. When I double-click the file in the Finder, an empty BibDesk-Window opens and nothing happens. When I open the file with a text editor (Smultron), highlight all and Select Bibdesk - Add to Bibliography from the Services Menu, nothing happens. What am I missing? I use BibDesk 1.3.10 on MacOS 10.5.0. Thanks for your help, Bertolt -- Bertolt Meyer Oberassistent Psychologisches Institut Universität Zürich Sozialpsychologie Binzmühlestr. 14 / 1, Box 15 CH-8050 Zürich [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel: +41446357282 fax: +41446357279 mob: +41788966111 - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] RIS import from Wiley InterScience not working
Of course I fully disagree with their remark that the developer should be familiar with Wiley. In fact, the problem is not about knowing their quirks. The problem is that their broken format does not give a way to recognize it as RIS, and distinguish it from some similar formats, such as PubMed. They don't add *any* identifying characteristic. Christiaan On 2 Nov 2007, at 5:06 PM, Bertolt Meyer wrote: Hi Christian, thanks for your answer. I just chatted with a support guy named Peter Phillips at Wiley, I thought you'd might be interested in their not so supportive attitude (my favorite is the bit on the software vendor supposed to be familiar with wiley): --snip-- [I explain the problem] Peter Phillips: You are correct, there is no TY field, but I cannot see that we populate this field with any of our citations. Peter Phillips: Your software vendor should be familiar with the citation format used by Wiley InterScience and should be able to supply the correct filters to import our data into their software. Bertolt: Well, but the TY field is standard in the RIS specification. Maybe other reference managers can handle a missing TY, but bibdesk - the most popular BibTeX front end for the Mac - unfortunately cannot. The bibdesk developers claim that the TY field is a neccessity for proper RIS import (i can forward you their mail if you wish). Peter Phillips: We export citations in Plain Text and EndNote format. Bertolt: Well actually its RIS and EndNote format, yes. Peter Phillips: I will forward your comments onto our developers to see if they are aware of the specification you mention. Bertolt: Thank you very much. Most kind. Peter Phillips: Thank you for using Wiley InterScience Customer Support Live Chat. You will receive a transcript of this chat by email. When we have resolved your query, you will receive another email confirming the answer we have supplied. --snip-- My bet is that I will either never hear from them again or that they will repeat the claim that software should support their non-TY- citations. Cheers, Bertolt Am 02.11.2007 um 15:20 schrieb Christiaan Hofman: The RIS from that site is incomplete, it misses a TY entry (publication type). And that is precisely what we use to recognize RIS, so BibDesk cannot identify it as RIS. If you can I'd file a bug report with them and ask them to correct it in the future (but don't hold your breath, as they're commercial). Christiaan On 2 Nov 2007, at 2:40 PM, Bertolt Meyer wrote: Hi all, I am having trouble with importing RIS-formatted citations from Wiley InterScience into bibdesk. For example: On this page: http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/cgi-bin/abstract/112417957/ ABSTRACT I click on Download Citation. On the following page, I select Plain Text/Citation/Mac and press ok. Safari then downloads a .RIS-file to my Download-Folder. It has a BibDesk-Icon so it is obviously associated with it. When I double-click the file in the Finder, an empty BibDesk-Window opens and nothing happens. When I open the file with a text editor (Smultron), highlight all and Select Bibdesk - Add to Bibliography from the Services Menu, nothing happens. What am I missing? I use BibDesk 1.3.10 on MacOS 10.5.0. Thanks for your help, Bertolt -- Bertolt Meyer Oberassistent Psychologisches Institut Universität Zürich Sozialpsychologie Binzmühlestr. 14 / 1, Box 15 CH-8050 Zürich [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel: +41446357282 fax: +41446357279 mob: +41788966111 - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users -- Bertolt Meyer Oberassistent Psychologisches Institut Universität Zürich Sozialpsychologie Binzmühlestr. 14 / 1, Box 15 CH-8050 Zürich [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel: +41446357282 fax: +41446357279 mob: +41788966111 -- --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and
Re: [Bibdesk-users] RIS import from Wiley InterScience not working
Hi Christian, thanks for your answer. I just chatted with a support guy named Peter Phillips at Wiley, I thought you'd might be interested in their not so supportive attitude (my favorite is the bit on the software vendor supposed to be familiar with wiley): --snip-- [I explain the problem] Peter Phillips: You are correct, there is no TY field, but I cannot see that we populate this field with any of our citations. Peter Phillips: Your software vendor should be familiar with the citation format used by Wiley InterScience and should be able to supply the correct filters to import our data into their software. Bertolt: Well, but the TY field is standard in the RIS specification. Maybe other reference managers can handle a missing TY, but bibdesk - the most popular BibTeX front end for the Mac - unfortunately cannot. The bibdesk developers claim that the TY field is a neccessity for proper RIS import (i can forward you their mail if you wish). Peter Phillips: We export citations in Plain Text and EndNote format. Bertolt: Well actually its RIS and EndNote format, yes. Peter Phillips: I will forward your comments onto our developers to see if they are aware of the specification you mention. Bertolt: Thank you very much. Most kind. Peter Phillips: Thank you for using Wiley InterScience Customer Support Live Chat. You will receive a transcript of this chat by email. When we have resolved your query, you will receive another email confirming the answer we have supplied. --snip-- My bet is that I will either never hear from them again or that they will repeat the claim that software should support their non-TY- citations. Cheers, Bertolt Am 02.11.2007 um 15:20 schrieb Christiaan Hofman: The RIS from that site is incomplete, it misses a TY entry (publication type). And that is precisely what we use to recognize RIS, so BibDesk cannot identify it as RIS. If you can I'd file a bug report with them and ask them to correct it in the future (but don't hold your breath, as they're commercial). Christiaan On 2 Nov 2007, at 2:40 PM, Bertolt Meyer wrote: Hi all, I am having trouble with importing RIS-formatted citations from Wiley InterScience into bibdesk. For example: On this page: http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/cgi-bin/abstract/112417957/ ABSTRACT I click on Download Citation. On the following page, I select Plain Text/Citation/Mac and press ok. Safari then downloads a .RIS-file to my Download-Folder. It has a BibDesk-Icon so it is obviously associated with it. When I double-click the file in the Finder, an empty BibDesk-Window opens and nothing happens. When I open the file with a text editor (Smultron), highlight all and Select Bibdesk - Add to Bibliography from the Services Menu, nothing happens. What am I missing? I use BibDesk 1.3.10 on MacOS 10.5.0. Thanks for your help, Bertolt -- Bertolt Meyer Oberassistent Psychologisches Institut Universität Zürich Sozialpsychologie Binzmühlestr. 14 / 1, Box 15 CH-8050 Zürich [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel: +41446357282 fax: +41446357279 mob: +41788966111 - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users -- Bertolt Meyer Oberassistent Psychologisches Institut Universität Zürich Sozialpsychologie Binzmühlestr. 14 / 1, Box 15 CH-8050 Zürich [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel: +41446357282 fax: +41446357279 mob: +41788966111 - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
