Re: [Bibdesk-users] Bibdesk punctuation question

2010-04-01 Thread Christiaan Hofman
No, it's not bibtex, the question is about templates.

Anyway, it is possible, but not too easy. You'll have to format the names 
yourself using collection tags for the authors and for the initials. Replace 
<$authors.abbreviatednormalizedna...@componentsjoinedbycomma/> by something 
like this:

<$authors><$lastName/><$firstNames?>, 
<$firstNames><$firstLetter/>., 

Christiaan

On Apr 1, 2010, at 22:14, Dan T. Abell wrote:

> Dear Joe,
> 
> This is actually a BibTeX question, as it's BibTeX that
> controls the formatting of the bibliographic data. I
> haven't found a .bst file that formats as you request,
> though I'm sure one exists (if for no other reason
> than typography guru Robert Bringhurst recommends one
> put little or no space between initials).
> 
> Assuming you can't get the journal to supply you with
> an appropriate bibliography style file, then here, very
> roughly, is what you need to do:
> 
> (a) Make a copy of the bibliography style file you want
>to modify, say abbrvnat.bst. Call it myAbbrvnat.bst,
>or whatever, and put it where tex (rather, bibtex)
>will find it when processing your document. And,
>of course, make sure your document specifies that
>new, private, bibliography style.
> 
> (b) In your private .bst file, you should find a function
>called "FUNCTION {format.names}". A few lines below,
>inside the function definition, you will see some
>text similar to
>s nameptr "{f.~}{vv~}{ll}{, jj}" format.name$
>   ^ this controls the formatting
> of the first name. (The single
>'f', for example tells bibtex to abbreviate the
>first name.)
> 
> (c) Change that line to read
>s nameptr "{f{.}.~}{vv~}{ll}{, jj}" format.name$
> 
> (d) Actually, the style you request has the last name
>before the initials, so the quoted string above will
>more likely read "{vv~}{ll}{, jj}{, f.}", which you
>would then change to read "{vv~}{ll}{, jj}{, f{.}.}".
> 
> (e) Re-run bibtex, then latex. Voilà.
> 
> If you want BibDesk also to use your new .bst file, then
> you will want to put it in a more central location. I
> haven't tested this, but ~/Library/texmf/bibtex/bst/
> should do the job. Then modify your BibDesk preferences
> accordingly.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Cheers,
>   -Dan
> 
> PS: For *lots* more information on BibTeX, look in your
> tex distribution for "tamethebeast". (TeXShop's "Help >
> Show Help for Package ..." will find it for you.)
> 
> 
> On 1 Apr 2010, at 12:11, Josef Trapani wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Does anyone know if it is possible to format the author field of a template 
>> without the space between an authors initials (when an author has two 
>> initials)?
>> 
>> When using the template modifier (for $authors): abbreviatedNormalizedName
>> it yields:
>> Mott, D. D., Rojas, A., Fisher, J. L., Dingledine, R. J.,
>> 
>> Rather, I would like to have:
>> Mott, D.D., Rojas, A., Fisher, J.L., Dingledine, R.J.,
>> 
>> I know it's subtle, but some journals require this format for references,
>> Joe
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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Bibdesk punctuation question

2010-04-01 Thread Dan T. Abell
Dear Joe,

This is actually a BibTeX question, as it's BibTeX that
controls the formatting of the bibliographic data. I
haven't found a .bst file that formats as you request,
though I'm sure one exists (if for no other reason
than typography guru Robert Bringhurst recommends one
put little or no space between initials).

Assuming you can't get the journal to supply you with
an appropriate bibliography style file, then here, very
roughly, is what you need to do:

(a) Make a copy of the bibliography style file you want
to modify, say abbrvnat.bst. Call it myAbbrvnat.bst,
or whatever, and put it where tex (rather, bibtex)
will find it when processing your document. And,
of course, make sure your document specifies that
new, private, bibliography style.

(b) In your private .bst file, you should find a function
called "FUNCTION {format.names}". A few lines below,
inside the function definition, you will see some
text similar to
s nameptr "{f.~}{vv~}{ll}{, jj}" format.name$
   ^ this controls the formatting
 of the first name. (The single
'f', for example tells bibtex to abbreviate the
first name.)

(c) Change that line to read
s nameptr "{f{.}.~}{vv~}{ll}{, jj}" format.name$

(d) Actually, the style you request has the last name
before the initials, so the quoted string above will
more likely read "{vv~}{ll}{, jj}{, f.}", which you
would then change to read "{vv~}{ll}{, jj}{, f{.}.}".

(e) Re-run bibtex, then latex. Voilà.

If you want BibDesk also to use your new .bst file, then
you will want to put it in a more central location. I
haven't tested this, but ~/Library/texmf/bibtex/bst/
should do the job. Then modify your BibDesk preferences
accordingly.

Hope this helps.

Cheers,
-Dan

PS: For *lots* more information on BibTeX, look in your
tex distribution for "tamethebeast". (TeXShop's "Help >
Show Help for Package ..." will find it for you.)


On 1 Apr 2010, at 12:11, Josef Trapani wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> Does anyone know if it is possible to format the author field of a template 
> without the space between an authors initials (when an author has two 
> initials)?
> 
> When using the template modifier (for $authors): abbreviatedNormalizedName
> it yields:
> Mott, D. D., Rojas, A., Fisher, J. L., Dingledine, R. J.,
> 
> Rather, I would like to have:
> Mott, D.D., Rojas, A., Fisher, J.L., Dingledine, R.J.,
> 
> I know it's subtle, but some journals require this format for references,
> Joe
> --
> Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval
> Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs
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> See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta.
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