Re: [Bibdesk-users] Wiley InterScience RIS (again)
Yes, it's more like SUTRS (which, as I've said a lot, is short for junk). My main complaint to Wilieey is that indeed it is not recognizable and much structures, so saying that others "should just recognize it" is truly arrogant. Christiaan On 11/8/07, Adam R. Maxwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I hate to say it, but I agree with Wiley on this one. Their files > have a .ris extension when I download them, but their tagged format > isn't even close to RIS. It's more like ScienceDirect, if you compare > the fragments here: > > Wiley: > > AU: David M. Marx, Diederik A. Stapel > TI: It's all in the timing: measuring emotional reactions to > stereotype threat before and after taking a test > SO: European Journal of Social Psychology > > RIS: > > AU - David M. Marx > AU - Diederik A. Stapel > T1 - Blah blah > JY - European Journal of Social Psychology > > So they invented yet another tagged text format. Easy to parse (aside > from the idiotic separation of authors by comma), but hard to > recognize next to the other formats we support. > > -- > adam > > On Nov 8, 2007, at 1:53 AM, Bertolt Meyer wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > I recently posted regarding troubles I had with importing reference > > from WileyInterscience. You told me that the format they use is RIS > > and that it lacks the TY field (example here: http://tinyurl.com/ > > 2z8swy), therefore BibDesk can't import it. I complained to them about > > the missing TY field and below is their final reply. I cannot believe > > their stupidity, they obviously do not understand their own format. > > They insist that their format is 'plain text' and not RIS. Could you > > please confirm back to me once more that Wiley is actually producing > > (corrupt) RIS when they speak of plain text before I go and slap their > > lousy support? > > > > Thanks, > > Bertolt > > > > > >>> Wiley InterScience only supports citation export in EndNote and > >>> Plain Text format. We do not support Citation Export in .ris format > >>> > >>> As we do not currently support the .ris format for citation export, > >>> we do not include the parameters requested by this format. > >>> > >>> Software vendors of citation management software should be able to > >>> supply filters to their customers for importing plain text > >>> formatted citations (in the format supplied by Wiley InterScience) > >>> into their programs. Please contact your software vendor for > >>> support regarding this issue. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Bertolt Meyer > > Oberassistent > > Psychologisches Institut Universität Zürich > > Sozialpsychologie > > Binzmühlestr. 14 / 1, Box 15 > > CH-8050 Zürich > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > tel: +41446357282 > > fax: +41446357279 > > mob: +41788966111 > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a > > browser. > > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > > ___ > > Bibdesk-users mailing list > > Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users > > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > ___ > Bibdesk-users mailing list > Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users > - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Wiley InterScience RIS (again)
I hate to say it, but I agree with Wiley on this one. Their files have a .ris extension when I download them, but their tagged format isn't even close to RIS. It's more like ScienceDirect, if you compare the fragments here: Wiley: AU: David M. Marx, Diederik A. Stapel TI: It's all in the timing: measuring emotional reactions to stereotype threat before and after taking a test SO: European Journal of Social Psychology RIS: AU - David M. Marx AU - Diederik A. Stapel T1 - Blah blah JY - European Journal of Social Psychology So they invented yet another tagged text format. Easy to parse (aside from the idiotic separation of authors by comma), but hard to recognize next to the other formats we support. -- adam On Nov 8, 2007, at 1:53 AM, Bertolt Meyer wrote: > Hi all, > > I recently posted regarding troubles I had with importing reference > from WileyInterscience. You told me that the format they use is RIS > and that it lacks the TY field (example here: http://tinyurl.com/ > 2z8swy), therefore BibDesk can't import it. I complained to them about > the missing TY field and below is their final reply. I cannot believe > their stupidity, they obviously do not understand their own format. > They insist that their format is 'plain text' and not RIS. Could you > please confirm back to me once more that Wiley is actually producing > (corrupt) RIS when they speak of plain text before I go and slap their > lousy support? > > Thanks, > Bertolt > > >>> Wiley InterScience only supports citation export in EndNote and >>> Plain Text format. We do not support Citation Export in .ris format >>> >>> As we do not currently support the .ris format for citation export, >>> we do not include the parameters requested by this format. >>> >>> Software vendors of citation management software should be able to >>> supply filters to their customers for importing plain text >>> formatted citations (in the format supplied by Wiley InterScience) >>> into their programs. Please contact your software vendor for >>> support regarding this issue. > > > > > -- > Bertolt Meyer > Oberassistent > Psychologisches Institut Universität Zürich > Sozialpsychologie > Binzmühlestr. 14 / 1, Box 15 > CH-8050 Zürich > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > tel: +41446357282 > fax: +41446357279 > mob: +41788966111 > > > > > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a > browser. > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > ___ > Bibdesk-users mailing list > Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Wiley InterScience RIS (again)
On Nov 8, 2007, at 2:19 AM, Christiaan Hofman wrote: > BTW, BibDesk does recognize the EndNote format they provide. It partially reads it if you copy the text and paste it into BibDesk. This so-called EndNote format is a bastardized refer format that EndNote extended. -- adam - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Wiley InterScience RIS (again)
BTW, BibDesk does recognize the EndNote format they provide. Christiaan On 8 Nov 2007, at 10:53 AM, Bertolt Meyer wrote: 2z8swy - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Wiley InterScience RIS (again)
I would say it's worse than that. Plain text isn't a bibliography format, it means "a bunch of characters". How can you recognize and parse that? Filters need some structure, and a way to recognize that structure. And they should also understand that they're not the only suppliers on the world. So I strongly disagree with their "should be" if they don't give a handle on that, their format is simply not identifiable. Christiaan On 8 Nov 2007, at 10:53 AM, Bertolt Meyer wrote: > Hi all, > > I recently posted regarding troubles I had with importing reference > from WileyInterscience. You told me that the format they use is RIS > and that it lacks the TY field (example here: http://tinyurl.com/ > 2z8swy), therefore BibDesk can't import it. I complained to them about > the missing TY field and below is their final reply. I cannot believe > their stupidity, they obviously do not understand their own format. > They insist that their format is 'plain text' and not RIS. Could you > please confirm back to me once more that Wiley is actually producing > (corrupt) RIS when they speak of plain text before I go and slap their > lousy support? > > Thanks, > Bertolt > > >>> Wiley InterScience only supports citation export in EndNote and >>> Plain Text format. We do not support Citation Export in .ris format >>> >>> As we do not currently support the .ris format for citation export, >>> we do not include the parameters requested by this format. >>> >>> Software vendors of citation management software should be able to >>> supply filters to their customers for importing plain text >>> formatted citations (in the format supplied by Wiley InterScience) >>> into their programs. Please contact your software vendor for >>> support regarding this issue. > > > > > -- > Bertolt Meyer > Oberassistent > Psychologisches Institut Universität Zürich > Sozialpsychologie > Binzmühlestr. 14 / 1, Box 15 > CH-8050 Zürich > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > tel: +41446357282 > fax: +41446357279 > mob: +41788966111 > > > > > > -- > --- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a > browser. > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > ___ > Bibdesk-users mailing list > Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
