Re: [Bibdesk-users] handling surname and numbers

[Adam R. Maxwell]

On Jul 6, 2007, at 12:05, Christiaan Hofman wrote:

>
> On 6 Jul 2007, at 8:51 PM, Jason Davies wrote:
>
 .  In this case, you have to use "von Last, Jr., First Middle", I
>>> think, so "Phillips, III, C. R." should give you correct results.
>>
>> when I had finally worked out how to follow these difficult
>> instructions, it works as hoped.
>>
>> damn, the syntax is almost like Applescript. Impossible to
>> guess, embarrassingly easy when you see it.
>>
>> many thanks.

No problem.

> Why? It is quite standard name formatting. And moreover it's
> unavoidable to use such a format in general, because it has to
> uniquely define the components of the name, which First Middle von
> Last Jr definitely does not.

It's certainly unavoidable, but I always have to look at the comment  
in BibAuthor.m for the correct order, since I only add a name with a  
von or Jr part about once a year.  It's easier for me to add names as  
First Middle Last, so that's what I use in general.

-- 
Adam


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Re: [Bibdesk-users] handling surname and numbers

[Christiaan Hofman]

On 6 Jul 2007, at 8:51 PM, Jason Davies wrote:

>> Did you try searching for "name" in the Help (I didn't...that's  
>> just a
>> guess)?  See
>> > 20Help_2.html#Formatting
>> -Names
>
> that's a bit obvious, don't you think? :-) (I was being much
> more technical and got blinded)
>
>>> .  In this case, you have to use "von Last, Jr., First Middle", I
>> think, so "Phillips, III, C. R." should give you correct results.
>
> when I had finally worked out how to follow these difficult
> instructions, it works as hoped.
>
> damn, the syntax is almost like Applescript. Impossible to
> guess, embarrassingly easy when you see it.
>
> many thanks.

Why? It is quite standard name formatting. And moreover it's  
unavoidable to use such a format in general, because it has to  
uniquely define the components of the name, which First Middle von  
Last Jr definitely does not.

Christiaan


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Re: [Bibdesk-users] handling surname and numbers

[Jason Davies]

>Did you try searching for "name" in the Help (I didn't...that's just a
>guess)?  See
>-Names

that's a bit obvious, don't you think? :-) (I was being much 
more technical and got blinded)

>>.  In this case, you have to use "von Last, Jr., First Middle", I
>think, so "Phillips, III, C. R." should give you correct results.

when I had finally worked out how to follow these difficult 
instructions, it works as hoped.

damn, the syntax is almost like Applescript. Impossible to 
guess, embarrassingly easy when you see it.

many thanks.


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Re: [Bibdesk-users] handling surname and numbers

[Adam R. Maxwell]

On Jul 6, 2007, at 11:04, Jason Davies wrote:

> I have an author "C. R. Phillips III" who I want to cite. If I
> protect the 'III' with 'Phillips' in BibDesk, then the reference
> in the text appears as Phillips III (1986) instead of 'Phillips
> 1986'. But anything else I do messes up the entry in the Works
> Cited section where I want the author's name to be C. R.
> Phillips III. I looked up the treatment for 'jnr' but that gave
> me no clues. Can I have my cake and eat it here? I'm not sure
> how to even look this up in the documentation!

Did you try searching for "name" in the Help (I didn't...that's just a  
guess)?  See 
.  In this case, you have to use "von Last, Jr., First Middle", I  
think, so "Phillips, III, C. R." should give you correct results.

-- 
Adam

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