Re: Non English Domain names

2009-11-18 Thread Sener ATAS




Hi,

We use bind with turkish characters. And it works perfectly.
for www.b.edu.tr you must edit your zone like www.xn--b-eha.edu.tr

Alans wrote:

  
  
  

  
  Hi,
  
  I know this is a little bit off topic but I
would like to
know how BIND will handle non English domain names? How this effect
Bind?
  ICANN started working on non English domains
from today as
far as I know.
  
  
  Regards,
  Alans
  
  

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Re: Non English Domain names

2009-11-18 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 04:38:22PM +0300,
 Alans batpowe...@yahoo.co.uk wrote 
 a message of 141 lines which said:

 I know this is a little bit off topic but I would like to know how
 BIND will handle non English domain names?

Non-English domain names? What's that? Is coca-cola.com an english
domain name? I do not find Coca-Cola in the Webster. And is
jeanne-d-arc.fr an english domain name?

If you are talking about IDN (Internationalized Domain Names), domain
names in Unicode, the way they are specified, they don't require a
change in the name servers, so BIND can handle them just fine.
 
 ICANN started working on non English domains from today as far as I
 know.

ICANN, may be, but the rest of the world is working with IDN for at
least six years (the standard was issued in 2003 and the first
implementations appeared immediately).
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Re: Non English Domain names

2009-11-18 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 03:36:56PM +0100,
 Stephane Bortzmeyer bortzme...@nic.fr wrote 
 a message of 25 lines which said:

 If you are talking about IDN (Internationalized Domain Names), domain
 names in Unicode, the way they are specified, they don't require a
 change in the name servers, so BIND can handle them just fine.

BTW, the Wikipedia article seems quite comprehensive:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internationalized_domain_name

And, to translate names from Unicode to the ASCII encoding used in
zone files, you can use various command-line tools or a Web one:

http://josefsson.org/idn.php/
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Re: Non English Domain names

2009-11-18 Thread Jukka Pakkanen

Yeah, no problems with scandinavian letters either.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punycode


Sener ATAS kirjoitti:

Hi,

We use bind with turkish characters. And it works perfectly.
for *www.bü.edu.tr* you must edit your zone like *www.xn--b-eha.edu.tr

*Alans wrote:


Hi,

 

I know this is a little bit off topic but I would like to know how 
BIND will handle non English domain names? How this effect Bind?


ICANN started working on non English domains from today as far as I know.

 

 


Regards,

Alans



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Re: DNS records visible only for LAN computers

2009-11-18 Thread Kevin Darcy

Peter Macko wrote:

Setup:
I have a domain example.com that is hosted on DNS under control of my 
internet provider.

Web server www.example.com is hosted by another company.
I have setup a local DNS for computers on my LAN. I have a LDAP server 
on LAN.


Question:
I want to make LDAP visible only for computers on LAN without altering 
DNS (of the internet provider).
The name of LDAP server should be ldap.example.com. Is it possible to 
do it?


I can think of two solutions:
1) I could create master zone for example.com on DNS (on LAN). This 
way I have to create A record for www.example.com,
but if internet provider changed ip address of the web-server, 
computers on lan would not reach

www.example.com and I would have to update A record on local DNS.

2) Another solution is to create zonefile for subdomain 
local.example.com on LAN DNS, so ldap.local.example.com.

But this is not exactly what I want.

3) Create a zone called ldap.example.com. Put the A record for your 
LDAP server at the apex of the zone.


Obviously, this isn't really scalable -- you don't want to have to 
create zones and zone definitions for every resource on your LAN, but 
this is the price you pay for being so disjointed from your 
webservice/external-DNS provider that they don't even bother telling you 
when they change the IPs of your main website. If you want scalability, 
you should take control of example.com yourself and then implement 
something like views to control how it is presented to internal versus 
external clients.



  - Kevin


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BIND does not listen at all when the interface is temporarily down (only with IPv6)

2009-11-18 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
When I listen on one specific address:

listen-on-v6 { 2001:db8::53;}; 

If the interface is not UP at the time BIND starts, and therefore this
IP address not local, BIND does not listen:

18-Nov-2009 17:31:24.588 not listening on any interfaces

and does not resume if the interface becomes UP later. (I have to rndc
reload.) Very annoying.

This does not occur with IPv4 and the listen-on directive.

Tested with BIND 9.5.1 and 9.7b2 on Debian/Linux.
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Re: Bind sometimes SERVFAIL

2009-11-18 Thread Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
Le mercredi 11 novembre 2009 09:15:12, Matus UHLAR - fantomas a écrit :
 On 11.11.09 16:05, Pawel Rutkowski wrote:
  Please look below, it's normal ? Sometime servfail, sometimes nxdomain.
 
  [r...@linux ~]# host 209.85.255.187 ns1.isp
  Using domain server:
  Name: ns1.isp
  Address: ns1.isp#53
  Aliases:
 
  Host 187.255.85.209.in-addr.arpa not found: 2(SERVFAIL)
  [r...@linux ~]# host 209.85.255.187 ns1.isp
  Using domain server:
  Name: ns1.isp
  Address: ns1.isp#53
  Aliases:
 
  Host 187.255.85.209.in-addr.arpa not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
  [r...@linux ~]# host 209.85.255.187 ns1.isp
  Using domain server:
  Name: ns1.isp
  Address: ns1.isp#53
  Aliases:
 
  Host 187.255.85.209.in-addr.arpa not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
 
 Use 'dig -x 209.85.255.187 @ns1.isp' and look at NS records and TTLs.
 Invalid delegations and inconsistent NS records (domain is delegated from
 parent to different servers than those listed in the domain) often cause
 these kinds of problems.
 
I think I did have same problem
with 9.4.1p1, 9.5p2 and 9.6p1. Look

[d...@brandmauer ~]$ host www.bbc.co.uk 127.0.0.1
Using domain server:
Name: 127.0.0.1
Address: 127.0.0.1#53
Aliases:

www.bbc.co.uk is an alias for www.bbc.net.uk.
www.bbc.net.uk has address 212.58.253.68
Host www.bbc.net.uk not found: 2(SERVFAIL)
[d...@brandmauer ~]$


I did sniff connecction and It seems that the query that fails is a MX request 
of www.bbc.net.mx. Odd thing.

When I ask to a exchange dns server, query is okay.

Is this a bug?

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Re: Bind sometimes SERVFAIL

2009-11-18 Thread Kevin Darcy

Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz wrote:

Le mercredi 11 novembre 2009 09:15:12, Matus UHLAR - fantomas a écrit :
  

On 11.11.09 16:05, Pawel Rutkowski wrote:


Please look below, it's normal ? Sometime servfail, sometimes nxdomain.

[r...@linux ~]# host 209.85.255.187 ns1.isp
Using domain server:
Name: ns1.isp
Address: ns1.isp#53
Aliases:

Host 187.255.85.209.in-addr.arpa not found: 2(SERVFAIL)
[r...@linux ~]# host 209.85.255.187 ns1.isp
Using domain server:
Name: ns1.isp
Address: ns1.isp#53
Aliases:

Host 187.255.85.209.in-addr.arpa not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
[r...@linux ~]# host 209.85.255.187 ns1.isp
Using domain server:
Name: ns1.isp
Address: ns1.isp#53
Aliases:

Host 187.255.85.209.in-addr.arpa not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
  

Use 'dig -x 209.85.255.187 @ns1.isp' and look at NS records and TTLs.
Invalid delegations and inconsistent NS records (domain is delegated from
parent to different servers than those listed in the domain) often cause
these kinds of problems.



I think I did have same problem
with 9.4.1p1, 9.5p2 and 9.6p1. Look

[d...@brandmauer ~]$ host www.bbc.co.uk 127.0.0.1
Using domain server:
Name: 127.0.0.1
Address: 127.0.0.1#53
Aliases:

www.bbc.co.uk is an alias for www.bbc.net.uk.
www.bbc.net.uk has address 212.58.253.68
Host www.bbc.net.uk not found: 2(SERVFAIL)
[d...@brandmauer ~]$

  

By default, host looks up A,  and MX records, in that order.
I did sniff connecction and It seems that the query that fails is a MX request 
of www.bbc.net.mx. Odd thing.


  
The delegated nameservers for bbc.net.uk are answering an MX query with 
an A record:


$ dig www.bbc.net.uk mx @ns0.rbsov.bbc.co.uk +short
212.58.253.68
$ dig www.bbc.net.uk mx @ns0.thdo.bbc.co.uk +short 
212.58.253.68


Really bad stuff, but this is a *persistent* condition, caused by the 
domain owner(s), and probably not related to the issue reported by the 
previous poster.


  - Kevin







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Re: BIND does not listen at all when the interface is temporarily down (only with IPv6)

2009-11-18 Thread Chris Buxton
On Nov 18, 2009, at 8:36 AM, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote:

 When I listen on one specific address:
 
 listen-on-v6 { 2001:db8::53;}; 
 
 If the interface is not UP at the time BIND starts, and therefore this
 IP address not local, BIND does not listen:
 
 18-Nov-2009 17:31:24.588 not listening on any interfaces
 
 and does not resume if the interface becomes UP later. (I have to rndc
 reload.) Very annoying.
 
 This does not occur with IPv4 and the listen-on directive.

Yes it does. If you put named built from stock source on Mac OS X, enable the 
stock Apple launchd job for named, and restart, named will be deaf because the 
ethernet interface is not up by the time named starts. You have to reload it, 
or wait for the statistics interval, for it to come up on the Ethernet 
interface. (It will be listening on the loopback interface right away, though.)

If you use the any token in your listen-on-v6 list, instead of specific 
interfaces, it will listen on the wildcard interface. This way, it will start 
listening right away when the interface comes up. This is different than for 
the IPv4 stack.

Chris Buxton
Professional Services
Men  Mice

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Using same authoritative NSes multiple times in delegation

2009-11-18 Thread Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris)

Greetings,


does the following setup violate any DNS RFCs or is it in the conflict 
with any best practices?


--
[and...@strigidae ~]$ dig +nocmd +nocom +noque +nosta domain1.tld1. ns
domain1.tld1.   86400   IN  NS  ns1.domain1.tld1.
domain1.tld1.   86400   IN  NS  ns2.domain1.tld1.
domain1.tld1.   86400   IN  NS  ns1.domain2.tld2.
domain1.tld1.   86400   IN  NS  ns2.domain2.tld2.
domain1.tld1.   86400   IN  NS  ns1.domain3.tld3.
domain1.tld1.   86400   IN  NS  ns2.domain3.tld3.
ns1.domain1.tld1.   86400   IN  A   IP.Add.ress.1
ns2.domain1.tld1.   86400   IN  A   IP.Add.ress.2
^
ns1.domain2.tld2.   86400   IN  A   IP.Add.ress.3
^
ns2.domain2.tld2.   86400   IN  A   IP.Add.ress.4
ns1.domain3.tld3.   86400   IN  A   IP.Add.ress.2
^
ns2.domain3.tld3.   86400   IN  A   IP.Add.ress.3
^
--

As we can see above, the ns2.domain1.tld1 / ns1.domain3.tld3 are 
actually the same physical host with the IP.Add.ress.2 and the 
ns1.domain2.tld2 / ns2.domain3.tld3 are actually the same machine with 
the IP.Add.ress.3.


What are the benefits of this setup?

Thanks in advance.


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Yours sincerely,

Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris) http://www.andris.name/
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Re: BIND Secondaries of MS AD Integrated Zones

2009-11-18 Thread bsfinkel
jim.siffe...@tektronix.com wrote:

Most of our internal DNS zones are mastered in Microsoft DNS (2k3 R2)
as AD Integrated zones.  Currently, those zones are slaved from a
single MS DNS server to our BIND 9 servers that handle recursion.  Is
there a reliable way to use multiple masters when slaving AD Integrated
zones to BIND?

In the O'Reilly book DNS on Windows Server 2003 a section on p. 324
called BIND Secondaries for Active Directory-Integrated Zones says
serial numbers can vary on otherwise synchronized MS DNS Servers,
potentially causing a server to respond with an incorrect lower serial
number.

Thanks,

Jim Sifferle
Tektronix / Fluke Network Services

I have seen the replies to this mail, and I have something else to add.
See MS 282826.  Assume that you have a zone that is AD-integerated,
and you have the zone on two DCs, DC1 and DC2 - both are running the
MS DNS Service.  Assume that both copies of the zone are identical
and have serial number, say, 1.

Now two machines send DDNS updates for the same zone at the same time;
one sends to DC1 and one sends to DC2.  After each DC has processed
the update, the DCs now have serial number 2, but the zones have
different content.  Somehow (under the covers of AD), the two zones are
synchronized.  I do not know the algorithm, nor do I know how much time
elapses before the synchronization.  With the synchronized zone, what
is the proper serial number?  It can not be 2, as there could be
another DDNS packet for the same zone sent to DC1, and this results
(before the synchronization) to DC1 having serial number 2 and DC2
having serial number 1.  Article 282826 describes what the MS code does;
it depends upon what MS DNS Servers are treated as masters for BIND.

With my setup, I run only ONE MS DNS Server, even though I have four
DCs.  My Windows group wants two MS DNS Servers, and I will list only]
one as the master for the zone on my BIND servers.
--
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Computing and Information Systems Division
Argonne National Laboratory  Phone:+1 (630) 252-7277
9700 South Cass Avenue   Facsimile:+1 (630) 252-4601
Building 240, Room 5.B.8 Internet: bsfin...@anl.gov
Argonne, IL   60439-4828 IBMMAIL:  I1004994
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