Re: CNAME as an alias to a TXT record

2019-11-04 Thread Computerisms Corporation

Hi,

Thank you very much for your response, much appreciated.

Still not working on the servers it needs to be working on, but have 
reproduced your results in a test environment.


On 2019-11-04 12:42 p.m., m3047 wrote:

I would expect so.

HECATE:~ m3047$ dig points-to-m3047.net.m3047.

; <<>> DiG 9.8.3-P1 <<>> points-to-m3047.net.m3047.
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 50873
;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;points-to-m3047.net.m3047.    IN    A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
POINTS-TO-M3047.NET.m3047. 600    IN    CNAME    M3047.NET.
m3047.net.    7200    IN    A    209.221.140.128

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
m3047.net.    6334    IN    NS    dns1.encirca.net.
m3047.net.    6334    IN    NS    dns2.encirca.net.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
dns1.encirca.net.    157334    IN    A    108.166.170.106
dns2.encirca.net.    157334    IN    A    64.62.200.132

;; Query time: 69 msec
;; SERVER: 10.0.0.220#53(10.0.0.220)
;; WHEN: Mon Nov  4 12:40:17 2019
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 197

HECATE:~ m3047$ dig points-to-m3047.net.m3047. txt

; <<>> DiG 9.8.3-P1 <<>> points-to-m3047.net.m3047. txt
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 46861
;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;points-to-m3047.net.m3047.    IN    TXT

;; ANSWER SECTION:
POINTS-TO-M3047.NET.m3047. 600    IN    CNAME    M3047.NET.
m3047.net.    7200    IN    TXT    "v=spf1 ip4:209.221.140.128/31 
+mx -all"


;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
m3047.net.    6329    IN    NS    dns1.encirca.net.
m3047.net.    6329    IN    NS    dns2.encirca.net.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
dns1.encirca.net.    157329    IN    A    108.166.170.106
dns2.encirca.net.    157329    IN    A    64.62.200.132

;; Query time: 108 msec
;; SERVER: 10.0.0.220#53(10.0.0.220)
;; WHEN: Mon Nov  4 12:40:22 2019
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 232


On Mon, 4 Nov 2019, Computerisms Corporation wrote:

Hi,

I am wondering if it is possible to create a CNAME in one zone to 
resolve as a TXT record in another zone.  Can't find anything that 
says it will work, but can't find any thing that says it won't, either.


For example, I have added in the zone file for dom1:

_acme-challenge    CNAME    _acme-challenge.dom2.com.

and then in zone file for dom2:

_acme-challenge    TXT    "thisismytextvalue"

Then, and more or less as expected, the following dig command fails to 
return a record.


dig -t TXT  _acme-challenge.dom1.com

Is there a way to get the dig command to return the TXT value for 
dom2? Or is that something that can pretty much only happen with A 
records?



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Re: CNAME as an alias to a TXT record

2019-11-04 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 04.11.19 um 21:38 schrieb Computerisms Corporation:
> Thanks for your response.
> 
>> no matter which record type a CNAME will match and that is the simple
>> reason that you can't have A/MX records with the same name
>>
>> MX mail.example-com
>> CNAME mail.example.com
>>
>> TXT whatever.example.com
>> CNAME whatever.example.com
> 
> yes, I understand that I can't have them in the same zone (ie in the
> same domain name).  but not trying that here.  I want the CNAME for
> firstdomain.com to point to a TXT record at seconddomain.com

i understand that and that's what i explained you

unless you don't have any conflicting stuff in one of both zones it just
resolves *anything* with the name on the left side with exists on the
right side, no matter what record type

if it don't you have something conflicting called "_acme-challenge" in
one of both zones
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Re: Can i remove @0x in my log query message, bind 9.11

2019-11-04 Thread G.W. Haywood via bind-users

Hi there,

On Mon, 4 Nov 2019, Nguyen Huy Bac wrote:


... bind 9.11, have @0x in log query message.
But, my statistical system dont support two log message structure at the same.
So, my question is: Can and How to remove @0x in my log 
query message.


You could do this for example by piping the log messages to a 'sed'
one-liner with syslog-ng, which would avoid the need to patch every
time you install a new version of bind.

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Re: CNAME as an alias to a TXT record

2019-11-04 Thread Tony Finch
Computerisms Corporation  wrote:
>
> yes, I understand that I can't have them in the same zone (ie in the same
> domain name).  but not trying that here.  I want the CNAME for
> firstdomain.com to point to a TXT record at seconddomain.com

There aren't any gotchas here, what you are trying to do just works.
There was some discussion about it on another list last month
https://lists.dns-oarc.net/pipermail/dns-operations/2019-October/019272.html

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Re: CNAME as an alias to a TXT record

2019-11-04 Thread Mark Andrews
_acme-challenge CNAME whatever.name.you.want.here.

will work provided there is no other records, including other CNAMEs, at
_acme-challenge.

If you want more help post *actual* response unmodified.  There are lots
of different ways to configure servers and what may look like a error when
checking isn’t anything more than a misunderstanding of how the DNS works.

Mark

> On 5 Nov 2019, at 07:38, Computerisms Corporation  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Reindl,
> 
> Thanks for your response.
> 
>> no matter which record type a CNAME will match and that is the simple
>> reason that you can't have A/MX records with the same name
>> MX mail.example-com
>> CNAME mail.example.com
>> TXT whatever.example.com
>> CNAME whatever.example.com
> 
> yes, I understand that I can't have them in the same zone (ie in the same 
> domain name).  but not trying that here.  I want the CNAME for 
> firstdomain.com to point to a TXT record at seconddomain.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> in both cases you need to chose because a CNAME with the same NAME is a
>> conflicting configuration which is not possible or redundant which don't
>> make sense
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Re: CNAME as an alias to a TXT record

2019-11-04 Thread m3047

I would expect so.

HECATE:~ m3047$ dig points-to-m3047.net.m3047.

; <<>> DiG 9.8.3-P1 <<>> points-to-m3047.net.m3047.
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 50873
;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;points-to-m3047.net.m3047. IN  A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
POINTS-TO-M3047.NET.m3047. 600  IN  CNAME   M3047.NET.
m3047.net.  7200IN  A   209.221.140.128

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
m3047.net.  6334IN  NS  dns1.encirca.net.
m3047.net.  6334IN  NS  dns2.encirca.net.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
dns1.encirca.net.   157334  IN  A   108.166.170.106
dns2.encirca.net.   157334  IN  A   64.62.200.132

;; Query time: 69 msec
;; SERVER: 10.0.0.220#53(10.0.0.220)
;; WHEN: Mon Nov  4 12:40:17 2019
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 197

HECATE:~ m3047$ dig points-to-m3047.net.m3047. txt

; <<>> DiG 9.8.3-P1 <<>> points-to-m3047.net.m3047. txt
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 46861
;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;points-to-m3047.net.m3047. IN  TXT

;; ANSWER SECTION:
POINTS-TO-M3047.NET.m3047. 600  IN  CNAME   M3047.NET.
m3047.net.		7200	IN	TXT	"v=spf1 
ip4:209.221.140.128/31 +mx -all"


;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
m3047.net.  6329IN  NS  dns1.encirca.net.
m3047.net.  6329IN  NS  dns2.encirca.net.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
dns1.encirca.net.   157329  IN  A   108.166.170.106
dns2.encirca.net.   157329  IN  A   64.62.200.132

;; Query time: 108 msec
;; SERVER: 10.0.0.220#53(10.0.0.220)
;; WHEN: Mon Nov  4 12:40:22 2019
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 232


On Mon, 4 Nov 2019, Computerisms Corporation wrote:

Hi,

I am wondering if it is possible to create a CNAME in one zone to resolve as 
a TXT record in another zone.  Can't find anything that says it will work, 
but can't find any thing that says it won't, either.


For example, I have added in the zone file for dom1:

_acme-challenge CNAME   _acme-challenge.dom2.com.

and then in zone file for dom2:

_acme-challenge TXT "thisismytextvalue"

Then, and more or less as expected, the following dig command fails to return 
a record.


dig -t TXT  _acme-challenge.dom1.com

Is there a way to get the dig command to return the TXT value for dom2? Or is 
that something that can pretty much only happen with A records?



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Re: CNAME as an alias to a TXT record

2019-11-04 Thread Computerisms Corporation

Hi Reindl,

Thanks for your response.


no matter which record type a CNAME will match and that is the simple
reason that you can't have A/MX records with the same name

MX mail.example-com
CNAME mail.example.com

TXT whatever.example.com
CNAME whatever.example.com


yes, I understand that I can't have them in the same zone (ie in the 
same domain name).  but not trying that here.  I want the CNAME for 
firstdomain.com to point to a TXT record at seconddomain.com







in both cases you need to chose because a CNAME with the same NAME is a
conflicting configuration which is not possible or redundant which don't
make sense
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Re: CNAME as an alias to a TXT record

2019-11-04 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 04.11.19 um 21:30 schrieb Computerisms Corporation:
> I am wondering if it is possible to create a CNAME in one zone to
> resolve as a TXT record in another zone.  Can't find anything that says
> it will work, but can't find any thing that says it won't, either.

that's not how CNAMES are working

no matter which record type a CNAME will match and that is the simple
reason that you can't have A/MX records with the same name

MX mail.example-com
CNAME mail.example.com

TXT whatever.example.com
CNAME whatever.example.com

in both cases you need to chose because a CNAME with the same NAME is a
conflicting configuration which is not possible or redundant which don't
make sense
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CNAME as an alias to a TXT record

2019-11-04 Thread Computerisms Corporation

Hi,

I am wondering if it is possible to create a CNAME in one zone to 
resolve as a TXT record in another zone.  Can't find anything that says 
it will work, but can't find any thing that says it won't, either.


For example, I have added in the zone file for dom1:

_acme-challenge CNAME   _acme-challenge.dom2.com.

and then in zone file for dom2:

_acme-challenge TXT "thisismytextvalue"

Then, and more or less as expected, the following dig command fails to 
return a record.


dig -t TXT  _acme-challenge.dom1.com

Is there a way to get the dig command to return the TXT value for dom2? 
Or is that something that can pretty much only happen with A records?




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RE: Inquiry re: DNS over HTTPS

2019-11-04 Thread Tony Finch
John W. Blue  wrote:

> Additionally, Tony Finch back on July 11th of this year suggested:

It's so nice when people do the dirty work for me :-)

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RE: Inquiry re: DNS over HTTPS

2019-11-04 Thread John W. Blue
Additionally, Tony Finch back on July 11th of this year suggested:

To give DoH access to clients you need a proxy such as dnsdist or doh101.

https://dotat.at/cgi/git/doh101.git
https://dnsprivacy.org/wiki/display/DP/Using+dnsdist+for+DoT+and+DoH

John

From: bind-users [mailto:bind-users-boun...@lists.isc.org] On Behalf Of 
Victoria Risk
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2019 12:45 PM
To: LeBlanc, Daniel James; ML BIND Users (bind-users@lists.isc.org)
Subject: Re: Inquiry re: DNS over HTTPS


On Nov 4, 2019, at 10:38 AM, LeBlanc, Daniel James 
mailto:daniel.lebl...@bellaliant.ca>> wrote:

Hello All.

I am interested in whether ISC BIND intends to directly support DNS over HTTPS 
in the near future, or whether it is expected that users will create an 
environment to accept the HTTPS request and convert it into a DNS query.

Daniel,

We do plan to develop support for both DoH and DoT (DNS over TLS) natively in 
BIND. Both will appear in development releases in 2020. We have a kb article 
that explains one way to do DoT today with stunnel 
https://kb.isc.org/docs/aa-01386.

Vicky Risk
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Re: Inquiry re: DNS over HTTPS

2019-11-04 Thread Victoria Risk

> On Nov 4, 2019, at 10:38 AM, LeBlanc, Daniel James 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello All.
>  
> I am interested in whether ISC BIND intends to directly support DNS over 
> HTTPS in the near future, or whether it is expected that users will create an 
> environment to accept the HTTPS request and convert it into a DNS query.

Daniel,

We do plan to develop support for both DoH and DoT (DNS over TLS) natively in 
BIND. Both will appear in development releases in 2020. We have a kb article 
that explains one way to do DoT today with stunnel 
https://kb.isc.org/docs/aa-01386.  

Vicky Risk
Product Manager

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Inquiry re: DNS over HTTPS

2019-11-04 Thread LeBlanc, Daniel James
Hello All.

I am interested in whether ISC BIND intends to directly support DNS over HTTPS 
in the near future, or whether it is expected that users will create an 
environment to accept the HTTPS request and convert it into a DNS query.

Thanks!

Daniel J. LeBlanc, P.Eng., MBA, DTME | Senior Network Architect | Bell Canada

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Re: Can i remove @0x in my log query message, bind 9.11

2019-11-04 Thread Ondřej Surý
Or patch the old version instead.

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> On 4 Nov 2019, at 15:14, Alan Clegg  wrote:
> 
> On 11/4/2019 5:57 AM, Tony Finch wrote:
>> Nguyen Huy Bac  wrote:
>>> So, my question is: Can and How to remove @0x in my
>>> log query message.
>> There is no convenient way. You have to apply this patch:
>> diff --git a/lib/ns/client.c b/lib/ns/client.c
>> index f16ece8c49..7861f12084 100644
>> --- a/lib/ns/client.c
>> +++ b/lib/ns/client.c
>> @@ -4066,8 +4066,8 @@ ns_client_logv(ns_client_t *client, isc_logcategory_t 
>> *category,
>>  }
>>  isc_log_write(ns_lctx, category, module, level,
>> -  "client @%p %s%s%s%s%s%s%s%s: %s",
>> -  client, peerbuf, sep1, signer, sep2, qname, sep3,
>> +  "client %s%s%s%s%s%s%s%s: %s",
>> +  peerbuf, sep1, signer, sep2, qname, sep3,
>>sep4, viewname, msgbuf);
>>  }
> 
> While this patch does what it says, it doesn't mention the fact that all 
> versions of BIND for the foreseeable future are going to have this additional 
> field (it's in all currently supported versions of BIND), so you will be MUCH 
> better off fixing the software that is ingesting the log file than to patch 
> BIND every time you upgrade.
> 
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Re: Can i remove @0x in my log query message, bind 9.11

2019-11-04 Thread Alan Clegg

On 11/4/2019 5:57 AM, Tony Finch wrote:

Nguyen Huy Bac  wrote:


So, my question is: Can and How to remove @0x in my
log query message.


There is no convenient way. You have to apply this patch:

diff --git a/lib/ns/client.c b/lib/ns/client.c
index f16ece8c49..7861f12084 100644
--- a/lib/ns/client.c
+++ b/lib/ns/client.c
@@ -4066,8 +4066,8 @@ ns_client_logv(ns_client_t *client, isc_logcategory_t 
*category,
}

isc_log_write(ns_lctx, category, module, level,
- "client @%p %s%s%s%s%s%s%s%s: %s",
- client, peerbuf, sep1, signer, sep2, qname, sep3,
+ "client %s%s%s%s%s%s%s%s: %s",
+ peerbuf, sep1, signer, sep2, qname, sep3,
  sep4, viewname, msgbuf);
  }


While this patch does what it says, it doesn't mention the fact that all 
versions of BIND for the foreseeable future are going to have this 
additional field (it's in all currently supported versions of BIND), so 
you will be MUCH better off fixing the software that is ingesting the 
log file than to patch BIND every time you upgrade.


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Re: Can i remove @0x in my log query message, bind 9.11

2019-11-04 Thread Tony Finch
Nguyen Huy Bac  wrote:

> So, my question is: Can and How to remove @0x in my
> log query message.

There is no convenient way. You have to apply this patch:

diff --git a/lib/ns/client.c b/lib/ns/client.c
index f16ece8c49..7861f12084 100644
--- a/lib/ns/client.c
+++ b/lib/ns/client.c
@@ -4066,8 +4066,8 @@ ns_client_logv(ns_client_t *client, isc_logcategory_t 
*category,
}

isc_log_write(ns_lctx, category, module, level,
- "client @%p %s%s%s%s%s%s%s%s: %s",
- client, peerbuf, sep1, signer, sep2, qname, sep3,
+ "client %s%s%s%s%s%s%s%s: %s",
+ peerbuf, sep1, signer, sep2, qname, sep3,
  sep4, viewname, msgbuf);
 }


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