Re: Re: .TLD minimum number of nameservers rule

2011-12-13 Thread nudgemac
> 
> What IS the problem, exactly? You're describing two things that
> doesn't seem to be related: number of NS for a zone, and PTR/DNAME
> records.

My appologies if in an attempt to be succint, I failed to be clear.

> 
> If you don't "own" an IP address, then usually you don't need to
> bother about PTR records at all. If you need to change PTR record for
> an IP address that you use (e.g. VPS, colo, home connection, etc) you
> usually need to ask your ISP to update/change it.

The company in question has a single public IP address connecting it's internal 
lan 
with the internet. A classic NAT configuration.

> DNAME creates an alias for one or more subdomains of a domain. Chances
> are you won't need it for common uses.

I'm not so sure I'd make that assumption.

> > For instance, would this be a problem when implementing a
> > wide area bonjour subdomain using my own local dns server for clients that 
> > are
> > mobile (internal/external) ?
> 
> Bonjour should work even without a DNS server.

Reminds me of Cool Hand Luke  <: what we have here is a failure to communicate 
:>

> You could always create your own DNS server if you REALLY need those
> record types :)
> The cheapest VPS is about $15/year, which should be more than enough
> for a secondary DNS server.

I'm running Bind 9.6 and dnsextd (llq and tsig handling). I have split DNS 
views based on source ip address 
and possession of a tsig key: 
internal-trusted/external-trusted/internal-visitor/external-visitor. 
The DNS server and clients are all mac 10.6+ so I'm taking advantage of 
mDNSResponder features such as 
looking in the system keychain for the tsig keys. I have a WAB subdomain for 
dns-sd, etc. I've had to replace
dnsextd with an older version, since current macosx versions are dead.

I wondered if the limited access to DNS records at the top level of my domain 
would be a problem. 
My first thought was to take over the DNS for this domain but rfc882 saying a 
domain must have at least
2 nameservers rules that out. Frankly, I probably don't understand enough about 
how glue records function... 

Thanks for your help
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Fwd: Re: .TLD minimum number of nameservers rule

2011-12-12 Thread nudgemac
Thanks all. Chris, Anand that's very useful to know, sorry Jeff and Philippe,
your interesting suggestions wont work in this case.

If I attack the problem from the other way down instead, the fact my current
registra doesn't allow me to add PTR or DNAME records to my top level domain
limits what exactly ? For instance, would this be a problem when implementing a
wide area bonjour subdomain using my own local dns server for clients that are 
mobile (internal/external) ?

I'm only allowed to add A NS MX CNAME TXT and SRV records via the web interface
of my registra and I imagined that I'd need PTRs or a DNAME or some ther glue 
frustratingly unavailable. Having heard your response to my original question,
I'm now desperately wishing that I got that wrong...


On Dec 12 2011, Anand Buddhdev wrote:

>I suspect that most, if not all registries will require you to provide
>at least 2 name servers, because this is highly recommended in one of
>the RFCs (forget which one now).

This seems to go right back to RFC 882 (November 1983):

| The domain must provide redundant (i.e., two or more) name servers
| to provide the name to address resolution service.  These name
| servers must be accessible from outside the domain (as well as
| inside) and must resolve names for at least all the hosts in the
| domain.

RFC 1035 (November 1987) just mentions this in section 2.1 "Overview":

| Different parts of the domain space are stored in different name
| servers, although a particular data item will be stored redundantly
| in two or more name servers.

while RFC 2182 (July 1997), which I suspect is the one Anand had in
mind, says in section 5 "How many secondaries?":

| The DNS specification and domain name registration rules require at
| least two servers for every zone.

before going on to recommend more than two in most cases.

-- 
Chris Thompson
Email: c...@cam.ac.uk

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.TLD minimum number of nameservers rule

2011-12-12 Thread nudgemac
Sorry if this is slightly off-topic

I've just discovered that the TLD where I've registered my domain requires a 
minimum of 2 nameservers 
for any subdomain, which is very sensible but I happen to have a special case 
on my hands.
So I'd like to register a new domain elsewhere where they will allow a single 
nameserver execpt...
I cant seem to find out what the rules are for other TLDs. *before* registering.
Some kindly advise would be most welcome.
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