Re: EDITED: Proper Way to Configure a Domain which never sends emails

2019-08-19 Thread Karl Lovink via bind-users
Hi,

We (Arnold Holzel and I) gave a talk about SPF (with macros), DKIM, DMARC and 
MTA-STS during Black Hat USA two weeks ago. The slides contains example DNS 
records you can use. Also a kink to a Splunk app for get insight whether Your 
domain are abused.
 Link: 
https://i.blackhat.com/USA-19/Thursday/us-19-Hoelzel-How-To-Detect-That-Your-Domains-Are-Being-Abused-For-Phishing-By-Using-DNS.pdf

Sincerely yours,
Karl 

> On 19 Aug 2019, at 18:56, Dean Eckstrom  wrote:
> 
> 
> You might also want to set a DMARC Policy record with appropriate 'rua' and 
> 'ruf' email reporting addresses.  
> 
> rua and ruf depend on remote mail centers being willing to send you this 
> information (which is not always consistently done).  Yet the reports might 
> provideoccasional feedback if you are actually being spoofed. It's additional 
> information that normally you wouldn't be able to 
> get.(https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7489).
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Re: EDITED: Proper Way to Configure a Domain which never sends emails

2019-08-19 Thread Dean Eckstrom
You might also want to set a DMARC Policy record with appropriate 'rua' and 
'ruf' email reporting addresses.


rua and ruf depend on remote mail centers being willing to send you this 
information (which is not always consistently done).  Yet the reports might 
provideoccasional feedback if you are actually being spoofed. It's additional 
information that normally you wouldn't be able to 
get.(https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7489).


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Re: EDITED: Proper Way to Configure a Domain which never sends emails

2019-08-19 Thread m3047

Hi,

I would think declaring SPF as you say is the right course of action.

I would consider setting up DMARC as well. Whether it's your intention or 
not, if you set up DMARC (a way for people to report mail claiming to be 
from you) you've essentially created a honey pot; maybe somebody will be 
happy to take those DMARC-instigated reports from you.


On Mon, 19 Aug 2019, Ignacio García wrote:
I have to set up dns records for a domain just for a web site, for which we 
will NEVER send emails (though we might receive some from old customers), so 
I would like to announce somehow that emails sent from this domain should 
always be disregarded.


Outgoing mail should be disregarded.

I was thinking of setting just A and  records for 
@ and www, NS records, MX records (for receiving)


Incoming mail should be received.

and SPF with a record just 
consisting of v=spf1 -all



  , not declaring an A and MX records at all.


Contradicts earlier assertions.

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Re: EDITED: Proper Way to Configure a Domain which never sends emails

2019-08-19 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas

On 19.08.19 15:01, Ignacio García wrote:
I have to set up dns records for a domain just for a web site, for 
which we will NEVER send emails (though we might receive some from old 
customers), so I would like to announce somehow that emails sent from 
this domain should always be disregarded. I was thinking of setting 
just A and  records for @ and www, NS records, MX records (for 
receiving) and SPF with a record just consisting of v=spf1 -all  ,



not declaring an A and MX records at all.


above you said you will declare A/ records...

I'm not sure at all this is a 
proper way of declaring this. In fact, what I would like is to 
EXPLICITELY mention somehow that we will never send emails from that 
domain. Could anybody help me with this?


Note that when you point A and  records for the domainname, people may
try to send mail to/from the domain name (the implicit MX points to those
addresses). 


To avoid this, you can point the MX for the domain to ".", some MTAs
understand this as "this domain doesn't provide mail service".

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EDITED: Proper Way to Configure a Domain which never sends emails

2019-08-19 Thread Ignacio García

(Sorry, there was a typo in the original message)

Hi there.

Thanks for your support. First message to the list, sorry if already 
posted a similar question, but I haven't found mention anywhere.


I have to set up dns records for a domain just for a web site, for which 
we will NEVER send emails (though we might receive some from old 
customers), so I would like to announce somehow that emails sent from 
this domain should always be disregarded. I was thinking of setting just 
A and  records for @ and www, NS records, MX records (for receiving) 
and SPF with a record just consisting of v=spf1 -all  , not declaring an 
A and MX records at all. I'm not sure at all this is a proper way of 
declaring this. In fact, what I would like is to EXPLICITELY mention 
somehow that we will never send emails from that domain. Could anybody 
help me with this?


Thanks so much in advance.

Ignacio

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