OT: Propagation of my NS records?

2010-10-04 Thread online-reg
Hi All: I think this is a little OT, but I’m wondering why changes to my NS 
records aren’t propagating when my NS is authoritative for my domain?

enigmedia.com is registered at NetSol and delegated to my NS:

ns.enigmedia.com (running on bind9/fedora)
ns1.enigmedia.com (running on bind9/Freebsd)

Global TTL is 3h and TTL for the “NS1” record is 1200, but after changing the 
IP address of ns1 more than 24 hrs ago, it is not being picked up by NetSol’s 
servers.

NetSol is returning the old record: 209.159.154.165, while my zone file has 
216.218.228.131.

I’ve seen this issue reported over the years, and the recommendation seems to 
be “complain to NetSol”.

Just wondering if something in my zone config is wrong, or if this is normal 
for changes to NS records? NetSol is just ignoring my TTLs and caching the old 
IP for as long as it wants?___
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Re: OT: Propagation of my NS records?

2010-10-04 Thread Chris Thompson

On Oct 4 2010, online-reg wrote:


Hi All: I think this is a little OT, but I'm wondering why changes to
my NS records aren't propagating when my NS is authoritative for my domain?

enigmedia.com is registered at NetSol and delegated to my NS:

ns.enigmedia.com (running on bind9/fedora)
ns1.enigmedia.com (running on bind9/Freebsd)

Global TTL is 3h and TTL for the NS1 record is 1200, but after changing
the IP address of ns1 more than 24 hrs ago, it is not being picked up by
NetSol's servers.

NetSol is returning the old record: 209.159.154.165, while my zone file
has 216.218.228.131.


It's only returning it as glue, not as an answer. Glue is not updated
automatically.


I've seen this issue reported over the years, and the recommendation seems
to be complain to NetSol.

Just wondering if something in my zone config is wrong, or if this is normal
for changes to NS records? NetSol is just ignoring my TTLs and caching the
old IP for as long as it wants?


You need to go through the procedure with Network Solutions that will give
the new address for ns1.enigmedia.com in the output of

 whois -h whois.networksolutions.com enigmedia.com

Just as you would if you were changing NS records.

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Chris Thompson
Email: c...@cam.ac.uk
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Re: OT: Propagation of my NS records?

2010-10-04 Thread mike . parker
These are glue records for the delegation of your domain.  You must
contact Network Solutions to have them changed.  I have done this type
of thing in a long time, but they have a form somewhere.

Regards,
Mike


On Mon, Oct 04, 2010 at 09:01:18AM -0500, online-reg wrote:
 Hi All: I think this is a little OT, but I’m wondering why changes to my NS 
 records aren’t propagating when my NS is authoritative for my domain?
 
 enigmedia.com is registered at NetSol and delegated to my NS:
 
 ns.enigmedia.com (running on bind9/fedora)
 ns1.enigmedia.com (running on bind9/Freebsd)
 
 Global TTL is 3h and TTL for the “NS1” record is 1200, but after changing the 
 IP address of ns1 more than 24 hrs ago, it is not being picked up by NetSol’s 
 servers.
 
 NetSol is returning the old record: 209.159.154.165, while my zone file has 
 216.218.228.131.
 
 I’ve seen this issue reported over the years, and the recommendation seems to 
 be “complain to NetSol”.
 
 Just wondering if something in my zone config is wrong, or if this is normal 
 for changes to NS records? NetSol is just ignoring my TTLs and caching the 
 old IP for as long as it wants?

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Re: OT: Propagation of my NS records?

2010-10-04 Thread Anand Buddhdev
On 04/10/2010 16:01, online-reg wrote:

 Hi All: I think this is a little OT, but I’m wondering why changes to
 my NS records aren’t propagating when my NS is authoritative for my
 domain?
 
 enigmedia.com is registered at NetSol and delegated to my NS:
 
 ns.enigmedia.com (running on bind9/fedora) ns1.enigmedia.com (running
 on bind9/Freebsd)
 
 Global TTL is 3h and TTL for the “NS1” record is 1200, but after
 changing the IP address of ns1 more than 24 hrs ago, it is not being
 picked up by NetSol’s servers.
 
 NetSol is returning the old record: 209.159.154.165, while my zone
 file has 216.218.228.131.
 
 I’ve seen this issue reported over the years, and the recommendation
 seems to be “complain to NetSol”.
 
 Just wondering if something in my zone config is wrong, or if this is
 normal for changes to NS records? NetSol is just ignoring my TTLs and
 caching the old IP for as long as it wants?

I don't think NetSol automatically checks for updates to glue records.
You'll have to manually change the A records of your servers at NetSol
for them to be able to propagate the glue into the com zone.

Regards,

Anand Buddhdev
RIPE NCC
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Re: Propagation of my NS records?

2010-10-04 Thread online-reg

Hi All: I think this is a little OT, but I'm wondering why changes to
my NS records aren't propagating when my NS is authoritative for my 
domain?


enigmedia.com is registered at NetSol and delegated to my NS:

ns.enigmedia.com (running on bind9/fedora)
ns1.enigmedia.com (running on bind9/Freebsd)

Global TTL is 3h and TTL for the NS1 record is 1200, but after changing
the IP address of ns1 more than 24 hrs ago, it is not being picked up by
NetSol's servers.

NetSol is returning the old record: 209.159.154.165, while my zone file
has 216.218.228.131.


It's only returning it as glue, not as an answer. Glue is not updated
automatically.


OK, I see.



I've seen this issue reported over the years, and the recommendation seems
to be complain to NetSol.

Just wondering if something in my zone config is wrong, or if this is 
normal

for changes to NS records? NetSol is just ignoring my TTLs and caching the
old IP for as long as it wants?


You need to go through the procedure with Network Solutions that will give
the new address for ns1.enigmedia.com in the output of

  whois -h whois.networksolutions.com enigmedia.com

Just as you would if you were changing NS records.


Thanks, Chris...that wasn't clear to me until now! 


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Re: OT: Propagation of my NS records?

2010-10-04 Thread Kevin Oberman
 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2010 17:29:33 +0200
 From: Anand Buddhdev ana...@ripe.net
 Sender: bind-users-bounces+oberman=es@lists.isc.org
 
 On 04/10/2010 16:01, online-reg wrote:
 
  Hi All: I think this is a little OT, but I’m wondering why changes to
  my NS records aren’t propagating when my NS is authoritative for my
  domain?
  
  enigmedia.com is registered at NetSol and delegated to my NS:
  
  ns.enigmedia.com (running on bind9/fedora) ns1.enigmedia.com (running
  on bind9/Freebsd)
  
  Global TTL is 3h and TTL for the “NS1” record is 1200, but after
  changing the IP address of ns1 more than 24 hrs ago, it is not being
  picked up by NetSol’s servers.
  
  NetSol is returning the old record: 209.159.154.165, while my zone
  file has 216.218.228.131.
  
  I’ve seen this issue reported over the years, and the recommendation
  seems to be “complain to NetSol”.
  
  Just wondering if something in my zone config is wrong, or if this is
  normal for changes to NS records? NetSol is just ignoring my TTLs and
  caching the old IP for as long as it wants?
 
 I don't think NetSol automatically checks for updates to glue records.
 You'll have to manually change the A records of your servers at NetSol
 for them to be able to propagate the glue into the com zone.

I know that netsol (and the other registrars) do not update glue based
on what is returned from an NS query to the current authoritative
server. Doing so would create a huge security issue and an easy way to
hijack DNS. Once DNSSEC is in place, it will become feasible to do
this, but I would seriously discourage anyone from holding his or her
breath while waiting (for technical, economic and political reasons).
-- 
R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer
Energy Sciences Network (ESnet)
Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab)
E-mail: ober...@es.net  Phone: +1 510 486-8634
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Re: OT: Propagation of my NS records?

2010-10-04 Thread wllarso.dns
There is a lot of assumed magic with DNS. It would be nice if things were 
possible but they aren't.

Think for a moment. 'I changed the IPOD address but my registrar isn't picking 
it up!' Well, how do you expect them to if you don't tell them? They don't have 
a crystal ball to read your mind or intentions.

No magic involved. They can only do what you tell them. Not even the newest 
magic incantation, DNSSEC, can provide that magic.

Sorry for the top posting. But,
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online-reg online-...@enigmedia.com wrote:

Hi All: I think this is a little OT, but I’m wondering why changes to my NS 
records aren’t propagating when my NS is authoritative for my domain?

enigmedia.com is registered at NetSol and delegated to my NS:

ns.enigmedia.com (running on bind9/fedora)
ns1.enigmedia.com (running on bind9/Freebsd)

Global TTL is 3h and TTL for the “NS1” record is 1200, but after changing the 
IP address of ns1 more than 24 hrs ago, it is not being picked up by NetSol’s 
servers.

NetSol is returning the old record: 209.159.154.165, while my zone file has 
216.218.228.131.

I’ve seen this issue reported over the years, and the recommendation seems to 
be “complain to NetSol”.

Just wondering if something in my zone config is wrong, or if this is normal 
for changes to NS records? NetSol is just ignoring my TTLs and caching the old 
IP for as long as it wants?___
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