Re: Registrar that supports self-run domains and provides DNSSEC support
Could we knock off the politics please? I view the recent few posts as ignorant nonsense (complete with poor spelling AND Ayn Rand -- a twofer!), but I'm not inclined to take us further off topic by responding to it. From: Shawn Bakhtiar [mailto:shashan...@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 01:25 PM To: bind-users@lists.isc.org Subject: RE: Registrar that supports self-run domains and provides DNSSEC support Well said. government is a bloated waist of money, however, look at what happened when Ma'bell was broken up. Unix became proprietary and languished while DOS dominated the world. Look at what happened when we deregulated energy in California 2 decades ago, prices shot up, and price gouging nearly sent the economy into a spiral. You have to either follow Ayn Rand, in true free economy, by letting anyone function as a registrar, or centralize it to a system that treats the registrant equally. I personally use netsol, they do charge more, but I find them to have an excellent service model, but why are we limited to .com .edu .gov et al, why not have the root servers as a government function, give people the ability to request and publish any TLD, I want to be .sha I want to run .sha with little to no QA. I want anyone and everyone without fee to be able to register domains under it? Why not? There is no technical reason stopping this from happening is there? The REAL problem is you already have government control, here is an ICANN thought on all this (ICANN governs it is government, though not in the traditional sense): http://archive.icann.org/en/tlds/new-stld-rfp/new-stld-rfp-24jun03.htm Don't want to fill the list with political brain farting but I passionately feel that this a fundamental violation of netizens rights that we have to pay to get domain names, and that we are limited to the TLD that we can register with, with a HUGE financial/systemic barrier to entry as a TLDs. There is a very big part of the world population that can not afford the $ 10 a year even, and thus is simply not equitable. There are countries, regions, that can not participate. If all that does not make sense, let's put it this way, Wikipidia serve 1000x more data (I know not in number of hits, but in data bits) then I bet the roots do. Yet they are free, and live off of donations. How hard can this be? If governments are bloatware, corporations are vaporware :) > From: micho...@cisco.com > To: bind-users@lists.isc.org > Subject: Re: Registrar that supports self-run domains and provides DNSSEC > support > Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 15:51:49 + > > -Original Message- > > From: Shawn Bakhtiar > Date: Friday, February 22, 2013 12:06 AM > To: "bind-users@lists.isc.org" > Subject: RE: Registrar that supports self-run domains and provides > DNSSEC support > > >2) We don't buy or maintain street addresses from a for profit company, > >why should domain name be any different? Domain name registration should > >be a free government/ ma'bell function. > > Being an outsider with no beef or raves for GD (just realized that sounds > like something else), I feel this isn't necessarily true. Government > functions rarely get ran well, at least here in the US. They're slow, > bloated, and tend to spend lots of tax dollars (not really free) producing > things hackers easily circumvent the day after release. > > Also, in ma'bell (er um netsol?) fashion, lack of competition stifles > innovation. Of course all the registrars don't do what any one of us > likes, but at least there is choice. Lack of competition also tends to > drive price up vs down. > > However, I'm not sure making choices based on "cheaper" and then > complaining about quality makes sense. I'd like to think such gems could > exist, but it's certainly not illogical to expect problems from free > services with less money to devote to improving their infrastructure or > conducting R&D to adopt new technologies. > > I know this last bit from experience, having worked at CELECs back in the > day and running an ISP that was severely underfunded because the Internet > was "new" and couldn't be trusted like a telephone. Lots of committed > people working long hours for very little, but there's only so much you > can do with blood, sweat and tears. > > ___ > Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe > from this list > > bind-users mailing list > bind-users@lists.isc.org > https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users
RE: Registrar that supports self-run domains and provides DNSSEC support
Well said. government is a bloated waist of money, however, look at what happened when Ma'bell was broken up. Unix became proprietary and languished while DOS dominated the world. Look at what happened when we deregulated energy in California 2 decades ago, prices shot up, and price gouging nearly sent the economy into a spiral. You have to either follow Ayn Rand, in true free economy, by letting anyone function as a registrar, or centralize it to a system that treats the registrant equally. I personally use netsol, they do charge more, but I find them to have an excellent service model, but why are we limited to .com .edu .gov et al, why not have the root servers as a government function, give people the ability to request and publish any TLD, I want to be .sha I want to run .sha with little to no QA. I want anyone and everyone without fee to be able to register domains under it? Why not? There is no technical reason stopping this from happening is there? The REAL problem is you already have government control, here is an ICANN thought on all this (ICANN governs it is government, though not in the traditional sense): http://archive.icann.org/en/tlds/new-stld-rfp/new-stld-rfp-24jun03.htm Don't want to fill the list with political brain farting but I passionately feel that this a fundamental violation of netizens rights that we have to pay to get domain names, and that we are limited to the TLD that we can register with, with a HUGE financial/systemic barrier to entry as a TLDs. There is a very big part of the world population that can not afford the $ 10 a year even, and thus is simply not equitable. There are countries, regions, that can not participate. If all that does not make sense, let's put it this way, Wikipidia serve 1000x more data (I know not in number of hits, but in data bits) then I bet the roots do. Yet they are free, and live off of donations. How hard can this be? If governments are bloatware, corporations are vaporware :) > From: micho...@cisco.com > To: bind-users@lists.isc.org > Subject: Re: Registrar that supports self-run domains and provides DNSSEC > support > Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 15:51:49 + > > -Original Message- > > From: Shawn Bakhtiar > Date: Friday, February 22, 2013 12:06 AM > To: "bind-users@lists.isc.org" > Subject: RE: Registrar that supports self-run domains and provides > DNSSECsupport > > >2) We don't buy or maintain street addresses from a for profit company, > >why should domain name be any different? Domain name registration should > >be a free government/ ma'bell function. > > Being an outsider with no beef or raves for GD (just realized that sounds > like something else), I feel this isn't necessarily true. Government > functions rarely get ran well, at least here in the US. They're slow, > bloated, and tend to spend lots of tax dollars (not really free) producing > things hackers easily circumvent the day after release. > > Also, in ma'bell (er um netsol?) fashion, lack of competition stifles > innovation. Of course all the registrars don't do what any one of us > likes, but at least there is choice. Lack of competition also tends to > drive price up vs down. > > However, I'm not sure making choices based on "cheaper" and then > complaining about quality makes sense. I'd like to think such gems could > exist, but it's certainly not illogical to expect problems from free > services with less money to devote to improving their infrastructure or > conducting R&D to adopt new technologies. > > I know this last bit from experience, having worked at CELECs back in the > day and running an ISP that was severely underfunded because the Internet > was "new" and couldn't be trusted like a telephone. Lots of committed > people working long hours for very little, but there's only so much you > can do with blood, sweat and tears. > > ___ > Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe > from this list > > bind-users mailing list > bind-users@lists.isc.org > https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users
Re: Registrar that supports self-run domains and provides DNSSEC support
On 02/22/2013 10:51 AM, Mike Hoskins (michoski) wrote: I know this last bit from experience, having worked at CELECs back in the day and running an ISP that was severely underfunded because the Internet was "new" and couldn't be trusted like a telephone. Lots of committed people working long hours for very little, but there's only so much you can do with blood, sweat and tears. Lived this to, in part. Thus we have for the most part big players with big fees. But I will start my migration shortly. ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users
Re: Registrar that supports self-run domains and provides DNSSEC support
-Original Message- From: Shawn Bakhtiar Date: Friday, February 22, 2013 12:06 AM To: "bind-users@lists.isc.org" Subject: RE: Registrar that supports self-run domains and provides DNSSEC support >2) We don't buy or maintain street addresses from a for profit company, >why should domain name be any different? Domain name registration should >be a free government/ ma'bell function. Being an outsider with no beef or raves for GD (just realized that sounds like something else), I feel this isn't necessarily true. Government functions rarely get ran well, at least here in the US. They're slow, bloated, and tend to spend lots of tax dollars (not really free) producing things hackers easily circumvent the day after release. Also, in ma'bell (er um netsol?) fashion, lack of competition stifles innovation. Of course all the registrars don't do what any one of us likes, but at least there is choice. Lack of competition also tends to drive price up vs down. However, I'm not sure making choices based on "cheaper" and then complaining about quality makes sense. I'd like to think such gems could exist, but it's certainly not illogical to expect problems from free services with less money to devote to improving their infrastructure or conducting R&D to adopt new technologies. I know this last bit from experience, having worked at CELECs back in the day and running an ISP that was severely underfunded because the Internet was "new" and couldn't be trusted like a telephone. Lots of committed people working long hours for very little, but there's only so much you can do with blood, sweat and tears. ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users
RE: Registrar that supports self-run domains and provides DNSSEC support
1) The issues with GoDaddy are FAR more then a few disgruntled customers... 2) We don't buy or maintain street addresses from a for profit company, why should domain name be any different? Domain name registration should be a free government/ ma'bell function. > Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 19:02:11 -0800 > From: do...@dougbarton.us > To: bind-users@lists.isc.org > Subject: Re: Registrar that supports self-run domains and provides DNSSEC > support > > I started to prepend my statement with "Some people don't like GoDaddy, > but ..." and then decided I would hope that it wouldn't be necessary at > this point. Since this is unarguably off-topic, I will try to be brief. > > First, a certain percentage of all customer service interactions with > every company are going to be bad. Since GoDaddy is the largest > registrar, numerically there are going to be more people who have had > bad experiences with them. Second, they are unashamedly capitalist. They > do offer many upsells, _just like every other registrar_. (Note, I used > to be in that business, we did the same thing at Yahoo!) You can argue > that their interface is more misleading/aggressive than others, but what > they do is not only not unique, it's the common case. > > Third, I've done business with them for over 10 years, I have > transferred at least dozens (probably more, but I'm not going to take > the time to count) of domains in and out of GoDaddy for clients, family > members, and myself. My experience has been uniformly positive. Finally, > while Bob is no longer running GoDaddy day to day, he was an early > supporter both of ICANN generally, and of cleaning up the registrar > business specifically (which for those of you who weren't on line around > the turn of the century, was an even dodgier, shadier place than it is now). > > Finally, GoDaddy was also an early supporter of things like IPv6 and > DNSSEC. My domains are all registered there, and the ones that aren't > just redirects all have IPv6 glue and DS records. > > A little more below ... > > On 02/19/2013 04:30 PM, Vernon Schryver wrote: > >>> I wrote: > >>> GoDaddy supports everything you're looking for. > > > > Those issues seem at most secondary to the objections some people have > > to how GoDaddy has dealt with the Internet and GoDaddy customers. > > https://www.google.com/search?q=nodaddy.com > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/07/12/godaddy_shuts_down_nodaddy/ > > While I don't think anyone in the registrar business is blameless, it's > worth looking at the source of a lot of those complaints, with an eye > toward how many of them are generated by GoDaddy's competition. Not to > mention the use of sensational-sounding accusations (Bob Parsons is an > elephant killer!) which when examined more closely turn out to be > completely without merit: > > "Parsons has said he participated in the hunt because the elephants were > a nuisance destroying crops the local population depended upon for > sustenance and even threatening the lives of villagers. > > Therefore, his hunt solved two problems, he suggested. > > 'First they have their crops,' he told ABC News Radio, 'and they get to > eat the elephant.'" > > http://abcnews.go.com/Business/daddy-ceo-bob-parsons-africa-elephant-hunt-video/story?id=13279206 > > > > ___ > Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe > from this list > > bind-users mailing list > bind-users@lists.isc.org > https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users
Re: Registrar that supports self-run domains and provides DNSSEC support
On Feb 20, 2013, at 1:14 AM, Chuck Peters wrote: > Robert Moskowitz said: >> Delving further into my challenges. >> >> But they don't seem to support DNSSEC protected domains, and even >> IPv6 glue records are special requests, it seems. > > I would like to know how can I handle DNSSEC key rollovers without > manually entering keys into one of those annoying web interfaces. What > methods do various registrars support? Is it possible to submit the KSK > directly to the root authority? Does some standard RFC cover how > registrars are supposed to support key rollovers? Shameless plug: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-kumari-ogud-dnsop-cds-00 This draft describes a method to allow easy rollover -- basically you sign the new DS record with you currently enrolled key and publish it in your zone. Your registrar (or registry / parent, depending on where your zone is) scrapes it periodically and publishes it for you. This draft is new, but based upon earlier work -- draft-barwood-dnsop-ds-publish-02 If you think that this is helpful, let someone know…. W > > > Thanks, > Chuck > > > > > > > ___ > Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe > from this list > > bind-users mailing list > bind-users@lists.isc.org > https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users > -- Some people are like Slinkies..Not really good for anything but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down the stairs. ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users
Re: Registrar that supports self-run domains and provides DNSSEC support
On 2013.02.20 01.14, Chuck Peters wrote: Robert Moskowitz said: Delving further into my challenges. But they don't seem to support DNSSEC protected domains, and even IPv6 glue records are special requests, it seems. I would like to know how can I handle DNSSEC key rollovers without manually entering keys into one of those annoying web interfaces. What methods do various registrars support? in my earlier reply i referenced gkg.net, which offers an api for ds record management... Is it possible to submit the KSK directly to the root authority? ds records do not go to the root [unless you're a tld]. they go to the parent zone. -ben ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users
Re: Registrar that supports self-run domains and provides DNSSEC support
Robert Moskowitz said: > Delving further into my challenges. > > But they don't seem to support DNSSEC protected domains, and even > IPv6 glue records are special requests, it seems. I would like to know how can I handle DNSSEC key rollovers without manually entering keys into one of those annoying web interfaces. What methods do various registrars support? Is it possible to submit the KSK directly to the root authority? Does some standard RFC cover how registrars are supposed to support key rollovers? Thanks, Chuck ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users
Re: Registrar that supports self-run domains and provides DNSSEC support
I started to prepend my statement with "Some people don't like GoDaddy, but ..." and then decided I would hope that it wouldn't be necessary at this point. Since this is unarguably off-topic, I will try to be brief. First, a certain percentage of all customer service interactions with every company are going to be bad. Since GoDaddy is the largest registrar, numerically there are going to be more people who have had bad experiences with them. Second, they are unashamedly capitalist. They do offer many upsells, _just like every other registrar_. (Note, I used to be in that business, we did the same thing at Yahoo!) You can argue that their interface is more misleading/aggressive than others, but what they do is not only not unique, it's the common case. Third, I've done business with them for over 10 years, I have transferred at least dozens (probably more, but I'm not going to take the time to count) of domains in and out of GoDaddy for clients, family members, and myself. My experience has been uniformly positive. Finally, while Bob is no longer running GoDaddy day to day, he was an early supporter both of ICANN generally, and of cleaning up the registrar business specifically (which for those of you who weren't on line around the turn of the century, was an even dodgier, shadier place than it is now). Finally, GoDaddy was also an early supporter of things like IPv6 and DNSSEC. My domains are all registered there, and the ones that aren't just redirects all have IPv6 glue and DS records. A little more below ... On 02/19/2013 04:30 PM, Vernon Schryver wrote: I wrote: GoDaddy supports everything you're looking for. Those issues seem at most secondary to the objections some people have to how GoDaddy has dealt with the Internet and GoDaddy customers. https://www.google.com/search?q=nodaddy.com http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/07/12/godaddy_shuts_down_nodaddy/ While I don't think anyone in the registrar business is blameless, it's worth looking at the source of a lot of those complaints, with an eye toward how many of them are generated by GoDaddy's competition. Not to mention the use of sensational-sounding accusations (Bob Parsons is an elephant killer!) which when examined more closely turn out to be completely without merit: "Parsons has said he participated in the hunt because the elephants were a nuisance destroying crops the local population depended upon for sustenance and even threatening the lives of villagers. Therefore, his hunt solved two problems, he suggested. 'First they have their crops,' he told ABC News Radio, 'and they get to eat the elephant.'" http://abcnews.go.com/Business/daddy-ceo-bob-parsons-africa-elephant-hunt-video/story?id=13279206 ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users
Re: Registrar that supports self-run domains and provides DNSSEC support
On 2/19/2013 16:30, Vernon Schryver wrote: My experience wrestling the domains of relatives from GoDaddy was not as bad as some of the stories, but it took more time, effort, and sophistication than some people would care or be able to muster. They still use deceptive tricks to keep domains hostage. For example, when you change contact information they display a "Click here if you agree with our domain locking policy", which is actually optional, but if you enable it, the new owner of the domain is blocked from transferring it to any other provider for many weeks. Such a joy when you're buying domains on behalf of a customer and can't actually finish the job for 2-3 months because the seller automatically clicked the "Yes, I agree" option. GoDaddy also likes to "up sell" many "protection" and other services whose value I don't understand. GoDaddy wants your money. What more do you need to understand? -- Dave Warren http://www.hireahit.com/ http://ca.linkedin.com/in/davejwarren ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users
Re: Registrar that supports self-run domains and provides DNSSEC support
> From: Tony Finch > > GoDaddy supports everything you're looking for. > > Though you might prefer to use a less repulsive provider. > http://kottke.org/11/12/the-internets-go-daddy-issues Those issues seem at most secondary to the objections some people have to how GoDaddy has dealt with the Internet and GoDaddy customers. https://www.google.com/search?q=nodaddy.com http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/07/12/godaddy_shuts_down_nodaddy/ My experience wrestling the domains of relatives from GoDaddy was not as bad as some of the stories, but it took more time, effort, and sophistication than some people would care or be able to muster. GoDaddy also likes to "up sell" many "protection" and other services whose value I don't understand. During our wrestling match, GoDaddy started sending warnings that some sort of "mailbox" service would not start without the replacement of an expired credit card. The credit card had been previously used for automatic renewal of the domains. I did not knowingly ask for the "mailbox" service, but maybe I clicked the wrong link on a web page. About 8 years ago I got stupid spam from GoDaddy's QuickSizzle bulk mail advertising service. Network Solutions is the only other major registrar that won an entry in my personal email blacklist. Network Solutions was more persistent about trying to send me unsolicited advertising, but it was always for Network Solutions instead of random Internet entrepreneurs like GoDaddy's QuickSizzle service. Never mind the spam support charges; half a decade is long enough to want to forget the less clear cut issues. https://www.google.com/search?q=godaddy+quicksizzle It was not hard to escape Network Solutions when I did it. (I didn't choose Network Solutions after SRI; I think that was the DoC.) I cannot recommend the registrar reseller or the wholesaler that I've used since NetSol to anyone who cares about IPv6 glue or DNSSEC. They couldn't handle my DS RRs in plain text mail (no MIME). It wasn't until I put the RRs on a private web page that they could cope. I've ducked IPv6 glue by using https://sns.isc.org/ for secondary DNS services. I'd recommend SNS@ISC, but you might think me insufficiently disinterested. There are registrars that people recommend generally and for IPv6 and DNSSEC, but I've not used them. I could switch, but even when the old registrar cooperates, switching costs some time and effort and risks breakage. Vernon Schryverv...@rhyolite.com ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users
Re: Registrar that supports self-run domains and provides DNSSEC support
On 19 Feb 2013, at 08:06, Doug Barton wrote: > GoDaddy supports everything you're looking for. Though you might prefer to use a less repulsive provider. http://kottke.org/11/12/the-internets-go-daddy-issues Tony. -- f.anthony.n.finchhttp://dotat.at/ ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users
Re: Registrar that supports self-run domains and provides DNSSEC support
GoDaddy supports everything you're looking for. Doug ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users
Re: Registrar that supports self-run domains and provides DNSSEC support
Moving registration away from NetSol is documented at http://www.networksolutions.com/support/preparing-a-domain-name-for-a-transfer-out-of-network-solutions/ If you have a good number of domains, and that number changes frequently, you might want to consider CSC https://www.cscglobal.com/global/web/csc/domains-and-trademarks.html I was happy with their services as a registrar and as a provider of DDoS-protected name servers for regularly-targeted domains and also with their responsiveness over several years. HTH, Len > > From: Robert Moskowitz >To: bind-users@lists.isc.org >Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 12:32 PM >Subject: Registrar that supports self-run domains and provides DNSSEC support > >Delving further into my challenges. > >Right now I use Network Solutions as my registrar. Just never changes as they >were the only show in town back then. > >But they don't seem to support DNSSEC protected domains, and even IPv6 glue >records are special requests, it seems. > >My registration is up for renewal; it expires 4/6/13 so this is a good time to >move. But of course my domain is locked and I can't see on NS account page >how to change that. > >I was pointed to dyn.com, but they are not clear about how to apply for them >just being a registrar and how to contact them for help. Either you are asking >for their managedDNS service of go to their free community forum(s). > > >I suppose nothing worth doing is easy to do. > > >___ >Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe >from this list > >bind-users mailing list >bind-users@lists.isc.org >https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users > > >___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users
Re: Registrar that supports self-run domains and provides DNSSEC support
On Feb 18, 2013, at 15.32, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > Delving further into my challenges. > > Right now I use Network Solutions as my registrar. Just never changes as > they were the only show in town back then. > > But they don't seem to support DNSSEC protected domains, and even IPv6 glue > records are special requests, it seems. > > My registration is up for renewal; it expires 4/6/13 so this is a good time > to move. But of course my domain is locked and I can't see on NS account > page how to change that. > > I was pointed to dyn.com, but they are not clear about how to apply for them > just being a registrar and how to contact them for help. Either you are > asking for their managedDNS service of go to their free community forum(s). i've recently switched to gkg.net, and have had a generally positive experience so far. in addition to supporting ipv6 glue and dnssec [without having to jump through hoops], they also offer an api for ds record management, which can be helpful. -ben ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users
Re: Registrar that supports self-run domains and provides DNSSEC support
Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > Right now I use Network Solutions as my registrar. Just never changes as they > were the only show in town back then. > > But they don't seem to support DNSSEC protected domains, and even IPv6 glue > records are special requests, it seems. Have a look at http://wiki.gandi.net/en/domains/faq/transfer Tony. -- f.anthony.n.finchhttp://dotat.at/ Forties, Cromarty: East, veering southeast, 4 or 5, occasionally 6 at first. Rough, becoming slight or moderate. Showers, rain at first. Moderate or good, occasionally poor at first. ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users
Re: Registrar that supports self-run domains and provides DNSSEC support
I personally like NameCheap. Cheap, and good documentation (that you can use even if you go with someone else). - Original Message - From: Robert Moskowitz [mailto:r...@htt-consult.com] Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 03:32 PM To: bind-users@lists.isc.org Subject: Registrar that supports self-run domains and provides DNSSEC support Delving further into my challenges. Right now I use Network Solutions as my registrar. Just never changes as they were the only show in town back then. But they don't seem to support DNSSEC protected domains, and even IPv6 glue records are special requests, it seems. My registration is up for renewal; it expires 4/6/13 so this is a good time to move. But of course my domain is locked and I can't see on NS account page how to change that. I was pointed to dyn.com, but they are not clear about how to apply for them just being a registrar and how to contact them for help. Either you are asking for their managedDNS service of go to their free community forum(s). I suppose nothing worth doing is easy to do. ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users
Re: Registrar that supports self-run domains and provides DNSSEC support
On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 03:32:53PM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > My registration is up for renewal; it expires 4/6/13 so this is a > good time to move. But of course my domain is locked and I can't > see on NS account page how to change that. Dyn can probably help you with how do get NetSol to unlock that :-) > I was pointed to dyn.com, but they are not clear about how to apply > for them just being a registrar and how to contact them for help. > Either you are asking for their managedDNS service of go to their > free community forum(s). I assure you Dyn DOES support run-your-own-domain, since I set one up a few months ago. They do kind of hide that option (probably because they want you to sign up for their managed DNS service). Once you create an account and log in: * Add Zone Services * DNS Services * I already have a DNS service for this domain ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users
Registrar that supports self-run domains and provides DNSSEC support
Delving further into my challenges. Right now I use Network Solutions as my registrar. Just never changes as they were the only show in town back then. But they don't seem to support DNSSEC protected domains, and even IPv6 glue records are special requests, it seems. My registration is up for renewal; it expires 4/6/13 so this is a good time to move. But of course my domain is locked and I can't see on NS account page how to change that. I was pointed to dyn.com, but they are not clear about how to apply for them just being a registrar and how to contact them for help. Either you are asking for their managedDNS service of go to their free community forum(s). I suppose nothing worth doing is easy to do. ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users
