Stuck glue records in the GTLD servers??

2008-12-15 Thread Milo Hyson
I'm seeing what looks like a stuck glue record in the GTLD servers and  
I'm hoping I've just overlooked something simple. There are several  
domains which list the following as their nameservers:


ns.netdentalcare.com
ns2.netdentalcare.com

The zone for these (netdentalcare.com) was moved to a new ISP several  
days ago. The new servers are properly resolving the names and the old  
servers no longer are. Unfortunately, nobody can seem to resolve these  
names unless they directly ask the new servers. Upon investigation, I  
discovered the GTLD servers seem to be holding onto a stale glue  
record for the zone's prior server:


 ns.netdentalcare.com.
Server: h.gtld-servers.net.
Address:192.54.112.30#53


QUESTIONS:
ns.netdentalcare.com, type = A, class = IN
ANSWERS:
-  ns.netdentalcare.com
internet address = 64.84.39.197
AUTHORITY RECORDS:
-  netdentalcare.com
nameserver = ns1.idaserver.com.
-  netdentalcare.com
nameserver = ns2.idaserver.com.
ADDITIONAL RECORDS:
-  ns1.idaserver.com
internet address = 207.178.132.75
-  ns2.idaserver.com
internet address = 207.178.132.76

Non-authoritative answer:
Name:   ns.netdentalcare.com
Address: 64.84.39.197

I assumed this would have timed-out after two-days, but it hasn't.  
Nobody is resolving the name to that address anymore. I checked the  
old zone file to ensure it didn't have a long TTL and it didn't  
(86,400 seconds).


If anybody has any insight into this issue it would be greatly  
appreciated.


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Milo Hyson
Chief Scientist
CyberLife Labs

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Re: Stuck glue records in the GTLD servers??

2008-12-15 Thread Mark Andrews

In message a82dae2a-44ad-4aeb-a72c-a150e6d7f...@cyberlifelabs.com, Milo Hyson
 writes:
 I'm seeing what looks like a stuck glue record in the GTLD servers and  
 I'm hoping I've just overlooked something simple. There are several  
 domains which list the following as their nameservers:
 
   ns.netdentalcare.com
   ns2.netdentalcare.com
 
 The zone for these (netdentalcare.com) was moved to a new ISP several  
 days ago. The new servers are properly resolving the names and the old  
 servers no longer are. Unfortunately, nobody can seem to resolve these  
 names unless they directly ask the new servers. Upon investigation, I  
 discovered the GTLD servers seem to be holding onto a stale glue  
 record for the zone's prior server:
 
   ns.netdentalcare.com.
 Server:   h.gtld-servers.net.
 Address:  192.54.112.30#53
 
 
  QUESTIONS:
   ns.netdentalcare.com, type = A, class = IN
  ANSWERS:
  -  ns.netdentalcare.com
   internet address = 64.84.39.197
  AUTHORITY RECORDS:
  -  netdentalcare.com
   nameserver = ns1.idaserver.com.
  -  netdentalcare.com
   nameserver = ns2.idaserver.com.
  ADDITIONAL RECORDS:
  -  ns1.idaserver.com
   internet address = 207.178.132.75
  -  ns2.idaserver.com
   internet address = 207.178.132.76
 
 Non-authoritative answer:
 Name: ns.netdentalcare.com
 Address: 64.84.39.197
 
 I assumed this would have timed-out after two-days, but it hasn't.  
 Nobody is resolving the name to that address anymore. I checked the  
 old zone file to ensure it didn't have a long TTL and it didn't  
 (86,400 seconds).
 
 If anybody has any insight into this issue it would be greatly  
 appreciated.

You need to update the HOST records for the nameservers.
 
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 Milo Hyson
 Chief Scientist
 CyberLife Labs
 
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Re: Stuck glue records in the GTLD servers??

2008-12-15 Thread Milo Hyson

They've been changed for days:

 ns.netdentalcare.com.
Server: ns1.idaserver.com.
Address:207.178.132.75#53


QUESTIONS:
ns.netdentalcare.com, type = A, class = IN
ANSWERS:
-  ns.netdentalcare.com
internet address = 207.178.132.75
AUTHORITY RECORDS:
ADDITIONAL RECORDS:

Name:   ns.netdentalcare.com
Address: 207.178.132.75

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Chief Scientist
CyberLife Labs


On Dec 15, 2008, at 15:43, Mark Andrews wrote:


You need to update the HOST records for the nameservers.


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