named and database backed systems

2009-01-28 Thread Scott Haneda
Hello, my past post about wildcarding the . in a named server seems  
it may be wrought with issues in the long term.


In short, my issues is a auto website creation tool that needs to be  
simple for users to change their registrar data, and have their site  
be served up.


The old method works, but is being outgrown, I can come in and try to  
solve it with scripts to sync the website to local named files, but it  
will always be a battle.


I am coming up short on finding any database backed store for named.   
I think sqllite would be the best for raw performance, but then again,  
even a million records in mysql is trivial.  I am just worried about  
volume of selects.


Can anyone point me to any info on database backed named solutions?
Thank you named users, you are all very helpful.
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Re: named and database backed systems

2009-01-28 Thread David Ford
Use the DLZ extension.  It's been around for a while.

I.e. put the following in your named.conf and use whatever interface you
wish.  I use Ant with a few modifications.  I don't have nearly the
number of domains that you do so my simple system works fine.


  dlz postgres zone {
database postgres 2
  {host=localhost dbname=dns_data user=bind password=xx}
  {SELECT 'TRUE' FROM canonical WHERE lower(content) =
lower('%zone%') limit 1}
  {SELECT ttl, type, priority, data FROM record, canonical WHERE
lower(content) = lower('%zone%') AND host = '%record%' AND zone = domain}
  {}
  {SELECT ttl, type, host, priority, data FROM record, canonical
WHERE zone = domain AND lower(content) = lower('%zone%')}
  {SELECT 'TRUE' FROM xfr, canonical WHERE zone = domain AND
lower(content) = lower('%zone%') AND client = inet '%client%'};
  };

Rather spiffy for centralizing your record store with immediate change
visibility.

-david

Scott Haneda wrote:
 Hello, my past post about wildcarding the . in a named server seems
 it may be wrought with issues in the long term.

 In short, my issues is a auto website creation tool that needs to be
 simple for users to change their registrar data, and have their site
 be served up.

 The old method works, but is being outgrown, I can come in and try to
 solve it with scripts to sync the website to local named files, but it
 will always be a battle.

 I am coming up short on finding any database backed store for named. 
 I think sqllite would be the best for raw performance, but then again,
 even a million records in mysql is trivial.  I am just worried about
 volume of selects.

 Can anyone point me to any info on database backed named solutions?
 Thank you named users, you are all very helpful.
 -- 
 Scott

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Re: named and database backed systems

2009-01-28 Thread Scott Haneda
Damnit, ever time I search this stuff out, I search for named  
something-or-other and should use BIND in my search :)


I am going to test deploy on my worksation on OS X.  Named comes up  
with relative ease, just add a key and I am pretty much up and  
running, albeit out of date, but for testing, I am ok with that.


Are you telling me I need not even build named to get DLZ support?  It  
is just there already?


I see you are using postgress, mysql or sqllite should not be an issue  
either?


Zones are backed in DB, but not queried in real time are there?  If  
they are, I can see, sub 50ms return times going way up.


Thanks for pointing me in the right direction, I will go read the DLZ  
pages now.


On Jan 28, 2009, at 10:25 PM, David Ford wrote:


Use the DLZ extension.  It's been around for a while.

I.e. put the following in your named.conf and use whatever interface  
you

wish.  I use Ant with a few modifications.  I don't have nearly the
number of domains that you do so my simple system works fine.


 dlz postgres zone {
   database postgres 2
 {host=localhost dbname=dns_data user=bind  
password=xx}

 {SELECT 'TRUE' FROM canonical WHERE lower(content) =
lower('%zone%') limit 1}
 {SELECT ttl, type, priority, data FROM record, canonical WHERE
lower(content) = lower('%zone%') AND host = '%record%' AND zone =  
domain}

 {}
 {SELECT ttl, type, host, priority, data FROM record, canonical
WHERE zone = domain AND lower(content) = lower('%zone%')}
 {SELECT 'TRUE' FROM xfr, canonical WHERE zone = domain AND
lower(content) = lower('%zone%') AND client = inet '%client%'};
 };

Rather spiffy for centralizing your record store with immediate change
visibility.


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Re: named and database backed systems

2009-01-28 Thread Mark Andrews

In message 29c7b7bc-f017-4404-b011-8b50206c7...@newgeo.com, Scott Haneda writ
es:
 Damnit, ever time I search this stuff out, I search for named  
 something-or-other and should use BIND in my search :)
 
 I am going to test deploy on my worksation on OS X.  Named comes up  
 with relative ease, just add a key and I am pretty much up and  
 running, albeit out of date, but for testing, I am ok with that.
 
 Are you telling me I need not even build named to get DLZ support?  It  
 is just there already?

You have to tell configure that you want it.  It's still
contributed code.
 
 I see you are using postgress, mysql or sqllite should not be an issue  
 either?
 
 Zones are backed in DB, but not queried in real time are there?  If  
 they are, I can see, sub 50ms return times going way up.
 
 Thanks for pointing me in the right direction, I will go read the DLZ  
 pages now.
 
 On Jan 28, 2009, at 10:25 PM, David Ford wrote:
 
  Use the DLZ extension.  It's been around for a while.
 
  I.e. put the following in your named.conf and use whatever interface  
  you
  wish.  I use Ant with a few modifications.  I don't have nearly the
  number of domains that you do so my simple system works fine.
 
 
   dlz postgres zone {
 database postgres 2
   {host=localhost dbname=dns_data user=bind  
  password=xx}
   {SELECT 'TRUE' FROM canonical WHERE lower(content) =
  lower('%zone%') limit 1}
   {SELECT ttl, type, priority, data FROM record, canonical WHERE
  lower(content) = lower('%zone%') AND host = '%record%' AND zone =  
  domain}
   {}
   {SELECT ttl, type, host, priority, data FROM record, canonical
  WHERE zone = domain AND lower(content) = lower('%zone%')}
   {SELECT 'TRUE' FROM xfr, canonical WHERE zone = domain AND
  lower(content) = lower('%zone%') AND client = inet '%client%'};
   };
 
  Rather spiffy for centralizing your record store with immediate change
  visibility.
 
 --
 Scott
 
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