[biz] RE: [on-asterisk] E911 service provider

2010-04-09 Thread Bruce N

Philip,
Using a PRI for all 911 calls is an interesting idea to me. Since PRI allows 
for Caller ID change and because you say that psap holds the the customer 
address then calling 911 through PRI with customers Caller ID should work. 
Interesting!!! Is that what some providers do? Any legal ramifications to this? 
Doesn't this infringe telco's terms of use?
Can you elaborate on how to go about getting psap updated at better cost than 
what Saurin already mentioned? Because if it costs the same or more, might as 
well go with those service providers.
Thanks,Bruce
> Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 11:16:27 -0400
> From: philip.mul...@syx.ca
> To: sajm...@gmail.com
> CC: aster...@uc.org; biz@taug.ca
> Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] E911 service provider
> 
> There are a multitude of providers that offer this already and cheaply, 
> (we off this to 3rd parties if needed)
> other than that... there are many options for e911 some of which don't 
> actually require sip trunking to a voip server (you can use your pri's). 
> Its all about caller-id and ensuring the psap's have the customer 
> did-address association setup correctly.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Philip Mullis
> Vice President of Telecommunications
> Synergex Corp
> 
> 
> 
> saurin ajmeri wrote:
> > Good Morning,
> >
> > Hi All, we are in planning to start home phone service, like vbuzzer and
> > freephoneline based on asterisk.
> >
> > As obvious we have have to comply with e911 to offer such a service.
> >
> > I got a quote for $1500 setup and $0.75/m per user with minimum $250/m
> > charge.
> >
> > I would like to know if is there any other way to get e911 service and to
> > provide it our customer.
> >
> > One interesting thing was, I can send e911 calls from as many server to them
> > there is no extra charge if we gave them all server list at beginning, going
> > forward once setup done we have to pay $100 for each add request.
> >
> > hmmm, It means if we have service setup with them once we can add server or
> > share with other providerwho wants to provide similar service.
> >
> > In above scenario to save some money, if i share with somebody or if i get
> > service from somebody who already have setup with them, does there would be
> > any legal issue.
> >
> > Does anybody have e911 trunk setup with provider and would like to offer
> > service.?
> >
> > Does anybody would like to get this service so we can share all expenses ?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Saurin
> >
> >   
> 
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[biz] RE: [on-asterisk] E911 service provider

2010-04-09 Thread Bruce N

Interesting again. CRTC doesn't require location info as long as you have a 
Caller ID being passed?! Does this mean, no updates to psap are required by law?

 

 


 
> From: j...@johnlange.ca
> To: philip.mul...@syx.ca
> CC: sajm...@gmail.com; aster...@uc.org; biz@taug.ca
> Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 10:42:54 -0500
> Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] E911 service provider
> 
> On Fri, 2010-04-09 at 11:16 -0400, Philip Mullis wrote:
> > There are a multitude of providers that offer this already and cheaply, 
> > (we off this to 3rd parties if needed)
> > other than that... there are many options for e911 some of which don't 
> > actually require sip trunking to a voip server (you can use your pri's). 
> > Its all about caller-id and ensuring the psap's have the customer 
> > did-address association setup correctly.
> 
> Just to be clear, if the device is a nomadic VOIP device, then sending
> calls direct to the PSAP is a violation of PSAP and CRTC regulations.
> 
> The call _MUST_ first go to a operator who will verbally determine the
> callers location before routing the call to the correct PSAP.
> 
> Location determination based on CallerID is not a CRTC requirement but
> all 3rd party 911 providers that I'm aware of use it as a backup.
> 
> Regards,
> -- 
> John Lange
> http://www.johnlange.ca
> 
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[biz] Re: [on-asterisk] E911 service provider

2010-04-11 Thread saurin ajmeri
Thanks everybody for your prompt reply.

I would talk to Digital Conception as looks like they are doing exactly same
what i was thinking in the terms of sharing.

They charge $99 for setup in compare to $1500 from 911enabled, however their
monthly cost $2 in compare to $0.75.

Philip,

I would appreciate if you could share list of some affordable provider.


Thanks again for prompt reply.

Saurin

On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Philip Mullis  wrote:

> There are a multitude of providers that offer this already and cheaply, (we
> off this to 3rd parties if needed)
> other than that... there are many options for e911 some of which don't
> actually require sip trunking to a voip server (you can use your pri's). Its
> all about caller-id and ensuring the psap's have the customer did-address
> association setup correctly.
>
> Regards,
>
> Philip Mullis
> Vice President of Telecommunications
> Synergex Corp
>
>
>
> saurin ajmeri wrote:
>
>> Good Morning,
>>
>> Hi All, we are in planning to start home phone service, like vbuzzer and
>> freephoneline based on asterisk.
>>
>> As obvious we have have to comply with e911 to offer such a service.
>>
>> I got a quote for $1500 setup and $0.75/m per user with minimum $250/m
>> charge.
>>
>> I would like to know if is there any other way to get e911 service and to
>> provide it our customer.
>>
>> One interesting thing was, I can send e911 calls from as many server to
>> them
>> there is no extra charge if we gave them all server list at beginning,
>> going
>> forward once setup done we have to pay $100 for each add request.
>>
>> hmmm, It means if we have service setup with them once we can add server
>> or
>> share with other providerwho wants to provide similar service.
>>
>> In above scenario to save some money, if i share with somebody or if i get
>> service from somebody who already have setup with them, does there would
>> be
>> any legal issue.
>>
>> Does anybody have e911 trunk setup with provider and would like to offer
>> service.?
>>
>> Does anybody would like to get this service so we can share all expenses ?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Saurin
>>
>>
>>
>
>


[biz] Re: [on-asterisk] E911 service provider

2010-04-11 Thread saurin ajmeri
Thanks everybody for your prompt reply.

I would talk to Digital Conception as looks like they are doing exactly same
what i was thinking in the terms of sharing.

They charge $99 for setup in compare to $1500 from 911enabled, however their
monthly cost $2 in compare to $0.75.

Philip,

I would appreciate if you could share list of some affordable provider.


Thanks again for prompt reply.

Saurin

On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Philip Mullis  wrote:

> There are a multitude of providers that offer this already and cheaply, (we
> off this to 3rd parties if needed)
> other than that... there are many options for e911 some of which don't
> actually require sip trunking to a voip server (you can use your pri's). Its
> all about caller-id and ensuring the psap's have the customer did-address
> association setup correctly.
>
> Regards,
>
> Philip Mullis
> Vice President of Telecommunications
> Synergex Corp
>
>
>
>
> saurin ajmeri wrote:
>
>> Good Morning,
>>
>> Hi All, we are in planning to start home phone service, like vbuzzer and
>> freephoneline based on asterisk.
>>
>> As obvious we have have to comply with e911 to offer such a service.
>>
>> I got a quote for $1500 setup and $0.75/m per user with minimum $250/m
>> charge.
>>
>> I would like to know if is there any other way to get e911 service and to
>> provide it our customer.
>>
>> One interesting thing was, I can send e911 calls from as many server to
>> them
>> there is no extra charge if we gave them all server list at beginning,
>> going
>> forward once setup done we have to pay $100 for each add request.
>>
>> hmmm, It means if we have service setup with them once we can add server
>> or
>> share with other providerwho wants to provide similar service.
>>
>> In above scenario to save some money, if i share with somebody or if i get
>> service from somebody who already have setup with them, does there would
>> be
>> any legal issue.
>>
>> Does anybody have e911 trunk setup with provider and would like to offer
>> service.?
>>
>> Does anybody would like to get this service so we can share all expenses ?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Saurin
>>
>>
>>
>
>