[blackbelly] ewes for sale

2006-12-03 Thread Christine Handley
I have 2 Blackbelly ewes for sale (horned genetics).
One is 4 years, the other is 5 months. Both have been with the ram and are 
probably bred to lamb in March 2007 or later.
I am asking $200 for each. Shipping is buyers responsiblity.  They are 
healthy, naturally raised.
I am located in Ontario, Canada 


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[blackbelly] Rams for sale

2006-12-03 Thread Nancy & Tom Richardson
Hello, I hope everyone in the midwest is all safe and sound. Our sheep woke 
up the other morning to 14" of snow that they didn't know what to do with. 
They were afraid to go out in it! Any way just wanted to let everyone know 
we still have several almost 1 year old rams available to become herd sires. 
They were sired by "Wingnut" . We have both blackbellies and corsicans. 
Please email for photos. Thanks Nancy www.freewebs.com/mossyspringsranch I 
have put on a few new pictures.
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> I am a bit slow etting to mail, and I find this interesting--
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> I am currently using Stall Dry sprinkled over the wooden floors, with a 
> layer
> of peat moss over that. Then, A good sized bag of sawdust-- which I get 
> for 5
> dollars a pickup truck load ( I am using my brother's PU truck-- it's 
> bigger
> than mine!) To add to the bedding, I first stir up the old stuff, then 
> level it
> out--add some more peat, then top with with sawdust.  My brother, the
> "germaphobe" has no complaints about odor or moisture in the now, totally
> enclosed barn. The ram is actually bedding down near the wall that takes 
> the
> brunt of the cold winds.  When I am ready to strip the stall, I can just 
> sweep
> it all out with a heavy duty broom. I am using the "pre-mixed compost 
> formula"
> as filler for the low spots in the pasture area-- and it is already making 
> a
> difference in what the rain does to my pasture areas.  I told some people 
> on a
> rabbit forum I belong to about this ( I use it for my rabbits, as well), 
> they
> have tried it, and now are happy about keeping their rabbits in their 
> homes.
>
> Stall Dry is a mixture of Diatomaceous Earth ( food grade, for safety) and
> clay-- a very fine clay, at that. It absorbs very nicely, and neutralizes 
> odor.
> The peat absorbs, as well, and seems to  dry faster than the sawdust, 
> pulling
> the moisture out of the sawdust!!!
>
> Now, this may be a bit expensive for large numbers of animals, but if one 
> must
> keep  an animal in some very confined quarters, it is great. I would not 
> use it
> for  lambing, though-- too much risk of clogging the lambs wet nostrils 
> with
> sawdust and peat dust. Perhaps after they are a week old, though--
>
> Terry W
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> Terry,
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> Where do you find sawdust for $5.00 a truck load?  That sounds like a 
> great
> deal.  If I can locate some in my area, I would love to give your method a
> try.  Do you feed your sheep in the stall also?  If so what do you do 
> about
> the hay waste?  My sheep eat the tender parts and leave a mess of stems
> behind.  We end up with quite a pile of "stems" in our stall.  How often 
> to
> you need to clean out the stall using your combination of products?
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> Thanks for the advice,
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> Kyla R.
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>>I am a bit slow etting to mail, and I find this interesting--
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>> I am currently using Stall Dry sprinkled over the wooden floors, with a
>> layer
>> of peat moss over that. Then, A good sized bag of sawdust-- which I get
>> for 5
>> dollars a pickup truck load ( I am using my brother's PU truck-- it's
>> bigger
>> than mine!) To add to the bedding, I first stir up the old stuff, then
>> level it
>> out--add some more peat, then 

Re: [blackbelly] pen&ink drawings from photos should have been processing experience

2006-12-03 Thread Cecil Bearden
my apologies for not changing the subject line on that last long post...

Cecil

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Re: [blackbelly] pen&ink drawings from photos

2006-12-03 Thread Cecil Bearden


I just thought I would let you all be amused, irritated, bemused, or 
whatever word or emotion you would like to use to describe the treatment 
I had from the processor I used for my lambs.

I went through the process of getting labels approved and everything so 
that I could sell processed lamb through the OK food Coop   
www.oklahomafood.coop  I had to select a processor also.  I selected 
Market 54 in Weatherford OK.  It was a 65 mile haul.  The other was 
Ralph's in Perkins, and as I had received a royal you know what with the 
last lambs I took to the sale barn at Perkins, I just did not want to go 
to Perkins again..

The difference in distance was 6 miles, so what the heck.  Also the 
owner of the plant in Weatherford lives here in Piedmont.  So 2 months 
ahead of time, I scheduled them to be processed the Thursday before 
Thanksgiving week.  I was supposed to pick up the meat on Friday after 
Thanksgiving.

I was also supposed to pick up the heads, hides, and offal.  I was told 
this was a problem as the other processor did not want to pick up sheep 
parts due to the scrape and mad cow crap...  I agreed as I thought I 
could sell the hides and use the horns for something.  Knife handles 
perhaps. 

Wednesday before I was to haul them, I was told an electrical problem 
occurred and they could not take them until the following Tuesday when 
the state inspector was was available for inspection.  And to wait until 
later in the morning because he had to process Buffalo that morning.  
That was fine, as I am not one to get gone early due to a stomach 
problem I have had for over 30 years.  I was willing to do whatever it 
took to get this done as I had scheduled the meats for sale over the 
Holidays with the food cooperative.  I also wanted to build a 
relationship with a processor.  That is the way I have done business 
with vendors for over 40 years.  We both have to stay in business, so I 
find someone to work with for both our benefits. 

I showed up at 10:00 am on Tuesday morning before Thanksgiving.  The 
owner unloaded the 4 barrels I had brought for the heads and hides and 
offal and carried them about 50 yards!!!  He then proceeded to berate me 
for bringing 19 head instead of the scheduled 11.  (I had 18 rams, when 
I counted them 2 months prior I only counted 11 with horns, go figure!  
I also had one fence crawler that I was going to process for myself to 
decide on the difference in taste with age.)  He also chewed on my butt 
for about 10  minutes because 25 hunters had showed up with deer for 
processing that morning.  ( Was that my fault?)

I was told that he could not process all of them that day.  I did not 
like the spaces in his pens, but agreed to let them stay.  I went into 
town and got some 55 gal liners for the barrels and brought them back 
and talked to him again about how I wanted it done. 
$10 ea. on Wednesday and called him and asked that since he came home to 
piedmont at night anyway, would he bring the hides so I could salt 
them.  He said he did not know he was to save the hides.  I told him 
that I discussed that several times and he agreed to save the hides as I 
had them sold for $15 ea.  (figured I better use a good offense as this 
guy was going to cost me).  e said he would look through his hide 
barrels and see if he could find them.  I got a call at 4:45 pm that he 
had found 11 hides and the rest were gone.  He would bring them when he 
got back about 9pm.  He then started to tell me how crazy everything was 
because of deer season.  I asked why that was my fault, and he began to 
berate me for bringing 8 more head than scheduled, and he just wanted to 
get through this without getting pd off!Hmmm!!   I just said 
OK and hung up.  I had just got my diesel truck out of the dealership 
about 30 minutes earlier and had to pay $700 for repairs when I thought 
it would have been about $250...  I was not going to get into a fight 
even though I could have fought a grizzly bear about then.  I had to go 
to another town about 20 miles away and get some salt for the hides and 
some fuel conditioner for my truck as I was leaving for Cape Giradeau MO 
in the morning and would have to salt the hides that evening. 

I got the hides about 8:30pm in 2 tubs.  When I got them home and 
started salting them, the heads and the lower joints of the back legs 
were still attached.  That blackbelly hide is the softest hide you  can 
find, but also the toughest to cut.  I finally found that sharp tin 
snips will cut it..  I also found a chines web site that states that 
hair sheep produce the finest glove leather available. 
About 10:30 I got the hides salted and went inside. 

I got a call on Monday morning about 7:00 am about how I wanted the meat 
cut.  I had left labels in a file box with them when I delivered the 
live animals.  We discussed how it was to be cut with the labels we had 
since I had more animals, and we decided to use as large of cuts as 
possible

Re: [blackbelly] pen&ink drawings from photos

2006-12-03 Thread Cecil Bearden
Carol:
What type of sign are you wanting?  I do a lot of fabrication work and 
make some of those pictures on steel with a plasma cutter.  I still need 
to get a web page up and running too..( possible labor trade here..!)   
Right now I am waiting on the results from the first bunch I took for 
processing.  They are at  
http://www.oklahomafood.coop/shop/prdcr_categories.php?producer_id=BEABL
Take a look and let me know what you think.
Cecil in Oklahoma



Carol J. Elkins wrote:
> Blackbelly folks,
>
> I'm writing to introduce you to an artist I've just discovered who can very 
> inexpensively make a beautiful pen and ink drawing out of any photo you 
> give her. Ann-Cathrine Loo lives in the U.K., but all she needs is your 
> photograph and an email address to create exquisite drawings and paintings 
> of your sheep, family, and any other artwork you may need. I wanted a 
> simple line drawing to put on my farm sign, so I emailed her the photo of 
> Zane, the ram most of you have seen on various Web sites I manage. You can 
> see a small version of the result, plus a link to her Web site, at 
> http://www.critterhaven.biz/links/index.htm (halfway down the page; the 
> last item under Supplies and Services). Within a day of receiving the 
> project description she emailed me the completed electronic file in various 
> formats so that I could use the image on the farm sign, stationary, biz 
> cards, and other marketing materials. I would LOVE to see what she could do 
> with a beautiful horned American Blackbelly ram!
>
> Any of you wanting artwork of your critters might want to contact her and 
> get a bid. Have a look at her portfolio; it's awesome. Although some of her 
> work just isn't "my style," all of the samples of animals that she's done 
> are really great. She doesn't specialize in doing animal portraits like a 
> lot of artists you'll see ads for in sheep and other animal magazines; but 
> I'm really pleased with her work. One of her drawings would make a great 
> Christmas present for someone.
>
> When I find a company to make my farm's new sign, I'll post a photo of it. 
> How cool would it be if all of us had blackbelly signs on our farm gates! 
> Eventually everyone in the neighborhood would know that these beautiful 
> creatures are NOT GOATS!
>
> Carol
>
> Carol Elkins
> Critterhaven--Registered Barbados Blackbelly Hair Sheep
> (no shear, no dock, no fuss)
> Pueblo, Colorado
> http://www.critterhaven.biz
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> Barbados Blackbelly Online Store http://www.cafepress.com/blackbellysheep
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