Re: [blackbelly] market for sheep skulls
Maybe things have changed, but I was put off the very first time I tried to use eBay a couple of years ago. I wanted to follow a particular item to see what the bids were going to be. eBay required that I register my credit card number with them, "for identification purposes" just so I could follow the item. I wasn't even trying to bid on it. They said since I didn't have my email account with one of the major companies (Earthlink, AOL, etc.) that they needed the credit card to verify who I was. I called them about it, but got nowhere with the person on the phone. I thought this was a ridiculous requirement just to follow an item, and that was the end of my eBay experience. How risky is it to have an eBay account? I guess you would have to have your cc number on file for that - does that worry you? I often get pesky fraudulent emails stating that my eBay account needs updating, so hurry and log on and give them all my personal info (so they can steal my ID). I just delete those - I obviously don't have an eBay account. Stephanie On Mar 14, 2007, at 11:33 AM, Paul & Renee Bailey wrote: > I agree, Carol. It's a great place...and easy to use. I remember > searching > for skulls last year and was surprised to see the "end of auction" sale > prices! I haven't sold any yet but I sell other things from time to > time. If > anyone needs help getting started, you are welcome to email me off > list. > > Renee Bailey > N. Idaho > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > >> I wanted to point out a possible market for those of you raising >> nicely horned American Blackbelly sheep (or other horned breeds). >> Some folks are getting $50 to $80 for skulls by listing them on eBay. >> > >> >> >> Carol Elkins >> Critterhaven--Registered Barbados Blackbelly Hair Sheep > > _ > The average US Credit Score is 675. The cost to see yours: $0 by > Experian. > http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx? > sc=660600&bcd=EMAILFOOTERAVERAGE > > ___ > This message is from the blackbelly mailing list > Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info > ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [blackbelly] market for sheep skulls
I use eBay a lot. Get a lot of my horse equipment, college books, etc. there. I also sell some. I use Papal only to buy and sell. You have a safety net that way. They will take care of you. I have had to file one time through pay pal and they got it fixed. I have never sold a skull though. For one thing, how do you clean it up. I will be butchering one here pretty soon and was going to let them toss it. Now I will keep it and the rug too. Now my question is. How do I clean the skull and how do I prepare the hide to ship for tanning. I also need some places that do tanning. I do not think we have any here in Oklahoma. Everyone I talked to said they ship or do it themselves. Any ideas. OJ in OK Oneta Johnson McLoud Telephone Company Data Entry/CSR Don't tell GOD what to do, just report for duty! ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [blackbelly] market for sheep skulls
I've sold items on ebay for YEARS and, although, yes, you get those 'update your account' phishing emails (I get those for every bank in the world, it seems - kind of a dead give-away when you've never even HEARD of the bank!), I find them to be a 100% reliable and safe company to deal with. I even allow sheep customers to leave deposits via Paypal if they are willing to pay the processing fees that Paypal charges. I must say that I have never heard of having to give your credit card info if you aren't SELLING something on ebay. I have several ebay id's and I'm very sure that I did not have to give any information (other than my email address and name) to be a buyer; only a seller. I don't see what your ISP has to do with it; people register on ebay all the time with 'gmail' and 'hotmail' accounts which are really totally untraceable if you want them to be. Anyone considering selling on ebay needs to make sure you are aware, before you start, of the FEES that are charged, both by them and Paypal (if you intend to accept Paypal payments). I try to cover those fees in the 'shipping and handling' charge; other people just absorb it out of the price of the item that sells - either way, you should know what the fees are so you don't get surprised in the end. I would also suggest, if you are selling 'big ticket' items and accepting paypal, that you INSIST BUYERS USE A CONFIRMED ADDRESS for their payments and shipping address. This protects you from fraudulent credit card payments. Good luck! Onalee Ebay id: onaleei ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [blackbelly] market for sheep skulls
One easy, although not too fast, way to clean up the skull is to take it far out in a pasture and use good, heavy wire around the horns, lay it down by a tree and wire it to the tree. Then, let the ants, buzzards, etc. do the work for you. It takes a while and you need to get it far enough away from you that you don't smell it all the time, but it works. Wiring it to the tree keeps the foxes, etc. from carrying it off. Go back in a couple of months and it should be pretty well clean. Onalee ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [blackbelly] market for sheep skulls
Thanks for the info Onalee and Oneta. Onalee, you probably didn't have to give them your credit card number because you have an AOL address. I don't see what the big deal is with the email address either, but that's what they said. I guess, since many of you have found them to be totally trustworthy, I can just follow their requirements for registering, credit info or no, and not worry about it. Thanks again, Stephanie On Mar 15, 2007, at 11:25 AM, Onalee Israel, Onalee's Home Grown Seeds wrote: > I must say that I have never heard of having to give your credit card > info > if you aren't SELLING something on ebay. I have several ebay id's and > I'm > very sure that I did not have to give any information (other than my > email > address and name) to be a buyer; only a seller. I don't see what your > ISP > has to do with it; people register on ebay all the time with 'gmail' > and > 'hotmail' accounts which are really totally untraceable if you want > them to > be. ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [blackbelly] market for sheep skulls and (new) hide tanning
I can only echo what Onalee and Oneta have said about PayPal and
eBay. I use both all the time for buying, and I just began to sell a
couple months ago and found the experience very easy. I read a good
book about doing eBay before I started, however ("eBay for Dummies"
http://tinyurl.com/2bc8ad is very useful, as is "eBay: The Missing
Manual," http://tinyurl.com/25kjjn). Emails from eBay and PayPal and
very easy to distinguish from the phishing emails. I was afraid I
would miss a bonafide email from a customer by thinking it was spam,
but they really are easy to tell apart.
Regarding skull cleaning: I've never done this since I raise Barbados
Blackbelly (polled), but the folks I know who do this also put the
skull out in the back 40 and let nature clean it. If you have a
taxidermy friend or someone who hunts elk or deer, you might ask them
for pointers.
Regarding hide tanning: There is a comprehensive list of tanneries at
http://hem.bredband.net/ronpar/pelttanning.html I use Buck's County
in Quakertown, PA. They make the hide washable (although I've never
had to wash one to see if it works).
To prepare the hide, lay it out flat, skin side up (hair side down)
on your basement floor or some area where critters won't get at it.
Make sure all big chunks of fat are removed, although in my
experience, blackbelly sheep just don't have big chunks of fat, or
any other kind of fat. Pour rock salt (the kind you put on icy
sidewalks) all over the hide. This dessicates the hide (removes all
moisture). Make sure you cover every single centimeter of skin, all
the way to the edges. Any skin that doesn't get salted will not dry
and will turn bad. You should put a good inch of salt down.
Leave the hide alone for a week to ten days. That is usually long
enough for a good salting. Sweep the salt off the hide and put it
away for reuse (I store in gallon jars). Roll the hide up and put it
in a used feed bag. Put that bag in a box addressed to the tannery.
Include in the box a sheet with your tanning instructions and your
contact information. Take it to UPS to ship.
It is scary to send your valuable hide away like this to someone you
don't know. Buck's County sends you a postcard telling you they
received it. Then in 3-4 months, they send you another postcard
telling you that it's done and to please send them payment. That's
scary, too--sending money for something you haven't seen. But I've
never been disappointed by Buck's County. When I get the hide, it is
always clean, soft, and supple.
Some cautions:
1. Don't butcher with the intent of keeping the hide until your sheep
have entirely shed their winter undercoat. Any unbroken hair will
remain on the pelt and will not shed during tanning. (I have several
unusable woolie hides, so trust me on this one.)
2. Don't nick the hide when skinning. Those small nicks become large
holes when tanned.
3. You can never use too much salt.
4. If you can groom the sheep a bit before butchering, it can't hurt.
In the long run, I'm not sure it helps, either.
If I missed anything, please someone chime in here.
Carol
>Now my question is. How do I clean the skull and how do I prepare
>the hide to ship for tanning. I also need some places that do tanning.
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Re: [blackbelly] market for sheep skulls
- Original Message - From: "Johnson, Oneta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [blackbelly] market for sheep skulls >I use eBay a lot. Get a lot of my horse equipment, college books, etc. > there. I also sell some. I use Papal only to buy and sell. You have a > safety net that way. They will take care of you. I have had to file one > time through pay pal and they got it fixed. I have never sold a skull > though. For one thing, how do you clean it up. I will be butchering one > here pretty soon and was going to let them toss it. Now I will keep it > and the rug too. > > Now my question is. How do I clean the skull and how do I prepare the > hide to ship for tanning. I also need some places that do tanning. I do > not think we have any here in Oklahoma. Everyone I talked to said they > ship or do it themselves. Any ideas. OJ in OK > > Oneta Johnson > McLoud Telephone Company > Data Entry/CSR > > Don't tell GOD what to do, just report for duty! > ___ > This message is from the blackbelly mailing list > Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info > ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [blackbelly] market for sheep skulls
Oneta, I found someone here locally that tans deer hides and he is willing to tan mine for the fun of it. Check with some of your local hunters. They may know of someone who can tan it for you. Sharon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Johnson, Oneta Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 10:20 AM To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Subject: Re: [blackbelly] market for sheep skulls I use eBay a lot. Get a lot of my horse equipment, college books, etc. there. I also sell some. I use Papal only to buy and sell. You have a safety net that way. They will take care of you. I have had to file one time through pay pal and they got it fixed. I have never sold a skull though. For one thing, how do you clean it up. I will be butchering one here pretty soon and was going to let them toss it. Now I will keep it and the rug too. Now my question is. How do I clean the skull and how do I prepare the hide to ship for tanning. I also need some places that do tanning. I do not think we have any here in Oklahoma. Everyone I talked to said they ship or do it themselves. Any ideas. OJ in OK Oneta Johnson McLoud Telephone Company Data Entry/CSR Don't tell GOD what to do, just report for duty! ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [blackbelly] market for sheep skulls and (new) hide tanning
I can only echo what Onalee and Oneta have said about PayPal and
eBay. I use both all the time for buying, and I just began to sell a
couple months ago and found the experience very easy. I read a good
book about doing eBay before I started, however ("eBay for Dummies"
http://tinyurl.com/2bc8ad is very useful, as is "eBay: The Missing
Manual," http://tinyurl.com/25kjjn). Emails from eBay and PayPal and
very easy to distinguish from the phishing emails. I was afraid I
would miss a bonafide email from a customer by thinking it was spam,
but they really are easy to tell apart.
Regarding skull cleaning: I've never done this since I raise Barbados
Blackbelly (polled), but the folks I know who do this also put the
skull out in the back 40 and let nature clean it. If you have a
taxidermy friend or someone who hunts elk or deer, you might ask them
for pointers.
Regarding hide tanning: There is a comprehensive list of tanneries at
http://hem.bredband.net/ronpar/pelttanning.html I use Buck's County
in Quakertown, PA. They make the hide washable (although I've never
had to wash one to see if it works).
To prepare the hide, lay it out flat, skin side up (hair side down)
on your basement floor or some area where critters won't get at it.
Make sure all big chunks of fat are removed, although in my
experience, blackbelly sheep just don't have big chunks of fat, or
any other kind of fat. Pour rock salt (the kind you put on icy
sidewalks) all over the hide. This dessicates the hide (removes all
moisture). Make sure you cover every single centimeter of skin, all
the way to the edges. Any skin that doesn't get salted will not dry
and will turn bad. You should put a good inch of salt down.
Leave the hide alone for a week to ten days. That is usually long
enough for a good salting. Sweep the salt off the hide and put it
away for reuse (I store in gallon jars). Roll the hide up and put it
in a used feed bag. Put that bag in a box addressed to the tannery.
Include in the box a sheet with your tanning instructions and your
contact information. Take it to UPS to ship.
It is scary to send your valuable hide away like this to someone you
don't know. Buck's County sends you a postcard telling you they
received it. Then in 3-4 months, they send you another postcard
telling you that it's done and to please send them payment. That's
scary, too--sending money for something you haven't seen. But I've
never been disappointed by Buck's County. When I get the hide, it is
always clean, soft, and supple.
Some cautions:
1. Don't butcher with the intent of keeping the hide until your sheep
have entirely shed their winter undercoat. Any unbroken hair will
remain on the pelt and will not shed during tanning. (I have several
unusable woolie hides, so trust me on this one.)
2. Don't nick the hide when skinning. Those small nicks become large
holes when tanned.
3. You can never use too much salt.
4. If you can groom the sheep a bit before butchering, it can't hurt.
In the long run, I'm not sure it helps, either.
If I missed anything, please someone chime in here.
Carol
>Now my question is. How do I clean the skull and how do I prepare
>the hide to ship for tanning. I also need some places that do tanning.
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