[Blackbelly] what to do about an aggressive ram?

2010-01-11 Thread Robert Jung
Hi everybody,
Couple quick questions

First, I have a 2 year old ram we bought to breed with our two ewes,
but lately he seems to be beating up on everyone else.  While he
maintains a healthy fear of people every now and then I see him
chasing down and head butting our ewes, lamb, and two nigerian dwarf
goat wethers - but especially the ewes.  Normally it's not too bad but
lately he's been getting pretty aggressive.  I'm finally getting
around to asking about this after one of our goats got a pretty bad
gash on the top of his head.  Does anyone have any good ideas how to
put him in his place?  Will they just work this out themselves? Or
should I just go get a different ram and send him to the freezer?

Second, I think our ewes are pregnant cause they're getting really fat
- another reason why I'm concerned about the ram.  Is there a way to
know for sure?

Thanks!
-Bob
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Re: [Blackbelly] what to do about an aggressive ram?

2010-01-11 Thread Julian Hale
Hmm... you could try a ram shield, but otherwise that's the kind of behavior 
that gets rams put in the freezer...

Julian

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Re: [Blackbelly] what to do about an aggressive ram?

2010-01-11 Thread GARLAND STAMPER
Hello Bob,

I have the same situation here.  For the first time ever, our 2 yr old ram 
is also very aggressive and he has come at me one time too many.  He is 
going into the freezer this week.  He's beautiful, has fulfilled his job and 
I truly love him...but...I won't have a ram on the place that I cannot 
intermingle with like I can with my current other ones.  This ram is also 
being way too rough with his ewes and I just said today that he needs to be 
separated before he damages a ewe or her unborn lambs.

Sad, but they can be too dangerous and at 2...some rams act like belligerent 
teenagers!

He sure will taste good, though!  G

Beth in central OR 

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Re: [Blackbelly] what to do about an aggressive ram?

2010-01-11 Thread GARLAND STAMPER
Bob,

About pregnant ewes:

best thing is to watch their udders.  If they begin to enlarge or bag 
up...then they are surely bred.

Beth

 

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Re: [Blackbelly] pregnancy

2010-01-11 Thread GARLAND STAMPER
Rick, Yes, you're exactly right, some time in the last week to 10 days. 
Since vet bills are so high, it's not feasible to ultrasound the ewes or 
preg check them like they do the cows.  This year, we know exactly when to 
expect lambs so we'll just watch and wait.

If you run a wild flock like we have done in the past...lambs can come at 
various times.  It's really hard to tell which ewes are pregnant when they 
have on their winter coats.  Mine look fat and wooly right now...but I can 
tell by the round belly shapes of the more experienced ewes that they are 
pregnant.  I have been surprised by some of the first time moms...they 
didn't look pregnant at all...but they were.

Beth

PS  Any more experienced shepherds have comments??


- Original Message - 
From: Rick Krach rickkr...@hotmail.com




Beth, doesn't that udder enlargement or bagging up not happen until the 
last days of pregnancy? Or maybe the last weeks? 

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