Re: [Blackbelly] what I feed for minerals
I purchased an entire pallet load of food quality DE (around 125 cubic feet of product) that was delivered by freight service from Werner Seeds out of Iowa. The cost was not bad at all but I also bought it in volume. My opinion after going through an entire pallet of DE with ever increasing dosages mixed into my commercial sheep feed is that the benefits of DE are entirely lacking. I saw no benefits in reduced parasite loads. At the end I had so much DE feed percentage wise that the sheep were hesitant to eat it. They were even not cleaning up the feed troughs completely. Leaving any feed of any kind in a feed trough is VERY unlikely with my sheep. I am happy that others seem to have success with DE. It was a waste of resources in my situation. Sincerely, Mark Wintermute Has anyone else had trouble finding food quality DE? I've been told by several people on the Blackbelly Listserve that you must use food quality DE, and the bag must be specifically marked as food quality. I see DE in farm stores, but it is not marked that way, so I've been afraid to buy it. Mary Swindell At 01:37 PM 10/19/2011, you wrote: >It's also a potent, highly bioavailable mineral source, which >contributes to parasite resistance. A couple years ago Barb Lee did her >own fecal tests, and did see a significant drop in parasite load after >giving DE, so while there may be no scientific studies, there are >evidence based case studies to support the idea that DE works as a wormer. > >It's an established fact that it works on external parasites, such as >mites, and is very effective against bed bugs, too. > >Julian - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1831 / Virus Database: 2092/4562 - Release Date: 10/19/11 ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [Blackbelly] what I feed for minerals
Has anyone else had trouble finding food quality DE? I've been told by several people on the Blackbelly Listserve that you must use food quality DE, and the bag must be specifically marked as food quality. I see DE in farm stores, but it is not marked that way, so I've been afraid to buy it. Mary Swindell At 01:37 PM 10/19/2011, you wrote: It's also a potent, highly bioavailable mineral source, which contributes to parasite resistance. A couple years ago Barb Lee did her own fecal tests, and did see a significant drop in parasite load after giving DE, so while there may be no scientific studies, there are evidence based case studies to support the idea that DE works as a wormer. It's an established fact that it works on external parasites, such as mites, and is very effective against bed bugs, too. Julian ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [Blackbelly] what I feed for minerals
It's also a potent, highly bioavailable mineral source, which contributes to parasite resistance. A couple years ago Barb Lee did her own fecal tests, and did see a significant drop in parasite load after giving DE, so while there may be no scientific studies, there are evidence based case studies to support the idea that DE works as a wormer. It's an established fact that it works on external parasites, such as mites, and is very effective against bed bugs, too. Julian On 10/18/2011 1:03 PM, Carol Elkins wrote: > At 07:42 PM 10/17/2011, you wrote: > I have no idea what it is.> > > DE is diatomaceous earth. A lot of people swear by it as a dewormer, > as well as use of Shaklee's Basic H detergent in the drinking water, > and garlic. However, there are no scientific studies that suggest that > any of these products have any substantial effect as an anthelmintic. > I suspect that blackbelly sheep's natural tolerance to worms is the > main reason that these substances appear to work. > > Carol > > Carol Elkins > Critterhaven--Registered Barbados Blackbelly Hair Sheep > (no shear, no dock, no fuss) > Pueblo, Colorado > http://www.critterhaven.biz > > ___ > This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list > Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info > ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [Blackbelly] what I feed for minerals
At 07:42 PM 10/17/2011, you wrote: I have no idea what it is.> DE is diatomaceous earth. A lot of people swear by it as a dewormer, as well as use of Shaklee's Basic H detergent in the drinking water, and garlic. However, there are no scientific studies that suggest that any of these products have any substantial effect as an anthelmintic. I suspect that blackbelly sheep's natural tolerance to worms is the main reason that these substances appear to work. Carol Carol Elkins Critterhaven--Registered Barbados Blackbelly Hair Sheep (no shear, no dock, no fuss) Pueblo, Colorado http://www.critterhaven.biz ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [Blackbelly] what I feed for minerals
What is DE. I've heard this on the listserve a couple of times, but I have no idea what it is. What kid of internal parasites did you lamb have? Nancy L. Johnson imgr8a...@comcast.net cell: 301 440 4808 - Original Message - From: "Crystal Wolf" To: "Blackbelly digest" Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 6:47:40 PM Subject: [Blackbelly] what I feed for minerals What I've been free feeding my ABB for minerals is kelp mixed with DE and garlic along with Redman Saltand their coats are nice and shiny. They also have a sulphur salt block but will eat more of the Redman salt over the block salt. With the kelp mix they are getting wormed and their minerals and the garlic helps keep their immune system strong. I recently lost an 8 month old ram lamb to internal parasites after trying to save him for 3 months. Not even any of the chemical wormers sold to me by the vet helped him. This is a very unusual case for me, because I rarely use SafeGuard which is my first choice in chemical wormers. All the sheep are fed DE everyday for worming which is sprinkled on their grain and the lambs are given this mix as soon as they start eating grain. Sometimes my lambs will get sore mouth but this time I added turmeric to their grain the little ewe has cleared right up. Cathy Mayton LeapN Lambs ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
[Blackbelly] what I feed for minerals
What I've been free feeding my ABB for minerals is kelp mixed with DE and garlic along with Redman Saltand their coats are nice and shiny. They also have a sulphur salt block but will eat more of the Redman salt over the block salt. With the kelp mix they are getting wormed and their minerals and the garlic helps keep their immune system strong. I recently lost an 8 month old ram lamb to internal parasites after trying to save him for 3 months. Not even any of the chemical wormers sold to me by the vet helped him. This is a very unusual case for me, because I rarely use SafeGuard which is my first choice in chemical wormers. All the sheep are fed DE everyday for worming which is sprinkled on their grain and the lambs are given this mix as soon as they start eating grain. Sometimes my lambs will get sore mouth but this time I added turmeric to their grain the little ewe has cleared right up. Cathy Mayton LeapN Lambs ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
