Re: [blackbelly] Flooring for housing
Mark-- Another advantage of portable housing is this-- IT IS NOT REAL ESTATE! therefore-- it cannot be taxed as an improvement on the property. Many of the local Alpaca peole here use the design for their males or specific breeding groups. It permits the housing to also be in the pasture that is being grazed, rather than having top herd the animals from barn to pasture-- Terry --- The Wintermutes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Terry, I only bed my sheep down when it is very cold, wet or when they have newborns. I personally don't like ammonia build-up or moisture of any kind inside my barns. I wouldn't worry too much about heat loss to the ground unless the ground is wet. I feel a solid wind break is needed especially for babies. An idea for you, I have found my sheep absolutely love to jump up on an old tool bench counter to lie down. Maybe some simple benches would keep them dry. I like the idea of portable housing. It would be nice to be able to hook up a tractor and move the barn rather than clean it out! Mark Wintermute -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terry Wereb Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 11:21 PM To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Subject: [blackbelly] Flooring for housing I have a decision to make, and I need some serious input-- I will be using portable housing for my flock in order to best utilize intensive grazing methods. the plans can be made so that the housing is made with or without a wood floor. either way I go-- the housing will be set on raised beds of crushed stone in orer to keep moisture away from the frame and skids of the building. This will also prevent the floor from getting flooded when it does rain. If I go no wood floor, the skids will be an issue for MY footing- I may have difficulty stepping over the skids on some days- I am sure the sheep will have no problem with it. If I use a floor, I will need to seal it against moisture from the normal animal waste process. Either way-- there will be deep bedding to prevent pressure sores. By deep-- I like to see horses knee deep when straw is just put in, so I figure sheep can be proportionately as deep, with a layer of corn cob bedding underneath for absorption of liquid waste. Is there an advantage to having a wood floor that anyone has noticed? I am looking at considerations of heat loss ( body to ground) in the winter, opportunities for unfriendly critters to set up housekeeping, and, of course, cost. I can originally build with no floor and add later-- the wall frames on the plans go up before the floor is laid down. I am located in NE Ohio- in the snow belt, so to speak. I will be building a floored building for my rabbits for the winter, as they won't pasture well then, and their building will also hold feed and medical supplies for the whole farm. But do I need it for the sheep? Terry ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.in fo ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info
Re: [blackbelly] Flooring for housing
Sounds great to me! I have been thinking about buying those 8'x8'x40' shipping containers. They are built for salt water, have a floor and allow movement as my farm evolves. I have been quoted $2000 dollars delivered to my farm. I wonder if they are tax exempt? Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terry Wereb Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 9:35 AM To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Flooring for housing Mark-- Another advantage of portable housing is this-- IT IS NOT REAL ESTATE! therefore-- it cannot be taxed as an improvement on the property. Many of the local Alpaca peole here use the design for their males or specific breeding groups. It permits the housing to also be in the pasture that is being grazed, rather than having top herd the animals from barn to pasture-- Terry --- The Wintermutes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Terry, I only bed my sheep down when it is very cold, wet or when they have newborns. I personally don't like ammonia build-up or moisture of any kind inside my barns. I wouldn't worry too much about heat loss to the ground unless the ground is wet. I feel a solid wind break is needed especially for babies. An idea for you, I have found my sheep absolutely love to jump up on an old tool bench counter to lie down. Maybe some simple benches would keep them dry. I like the idea of portable housing. It would be nice to be able to hook up a tractor and move the barn rather than clean it out! Mark Wintermute -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terry Wereb Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 11:21 PM To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Subject: [blackbelly] Flooring for housing I have a decision to make, and I need some serious input-- I will be using portable housing for my flock in order to best utilize intensive grazing methods. the plans can be made so that the housing is made with or without a wood floor. either way I go-- the housing will be set on raised beds of crushed stone in orer to keep moisture away from the frame and skids of the building. This will also prevent the floor from getting flooded when it does rain. If I go no wood floor, the skids will be an issue for MY footing- I may have difficulty stepping over the skids on some days- I am sure the sheep will have no problem with it. If I use a floor, I will need to seal it against moisture from the normal animal waste process. Either way-- there will be deep bedding to prevent pressure sores. By deep-- I like to see horses knee deep when straw is just put in, so I figure sheep can be proportionately as deep, with a layer of corn cob bedding underneath for absorption of liquid waste. Is there an advantage to having a wood floor that anyone has noticed? I am looking at considerations of heat loss ( body to ground) in the winter, opportunities for unfriendly critters to set up housekeeping, and, of course, cost. I can originally build with no floor and add later-- the wall frames on the plans go up before the floor is laid down. I am located in NE Ohio- in the snow belt, so to speak. I will be building a floored building for my rabbits for the winter, as they won't pasture well then, and their building will also hold feed and medical supplies for the whole farm. But do I need it for the sheep? Terry ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.in fo ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.in fo ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.in fo ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info
Re: [blackbelly] Flooring for housing
My Tractor can pull it if I put logs or something underneath it to roll on. I do that quite often. That way I don't have wheels on something that someone can take. I use metal roll stock for moving things quite often. You don't need much and its cheaper than wheels. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terry Wereb Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 11:51 AM To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Flooring for housing That is a pretty heavy container.. can your vehicle handle it? If you put wheels on it-- the local govmimnt would probably want to call it a vehicle. i will se if I can get the basic plans on my intended housing scanned and into some type of transmittable document-- it is a design that is very adaptable- I like it a lot. Also _Yard Barns qualify as portable if you do not want to build something yourself. My Brother had one shipped in from SugarCreek, Ohio.. It was transported in high winds, nary a shingle was disturbed. He uses it for storage right now until the barn is finished-- then it's MINE! ihe idea of having overhead storage in some building designs, even though I cannot readily utilize that type. Terry ( PS-- I never thought it wise to put the whole flock in one barn, or to even store feed and animals in the same barn. Something happens, everything is put at greater risk.) Terry --- The Wintermutes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds great to me! I have been thinking about buying those 8'x8'x40' shipping containers. They are built for salt water, have a floor and allow movement as my farm evolves. I have been quoted $2000 dollars delivered to my farm. I wonder if they are tax exempt? Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terry Wereb Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 9:35 AM To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Flooring for housing Mark-- Another advantage of portable housing is this-- IT IS NOT REAL ESTATE! therefore-- it cannot be taxed as an improvement on the property. Many of the local Alpaca peole here use the design for their males or specific breeding groups. It permits the housing to also be in the pasture that is being grazed, rather than having top herd the animals from barn to pasture-- Terry --- The Wintermutes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Terry, I only bed my sheep down when it is very cold, wet or when they have newborns. I personally don't like ammonia build-up or moisture of any kind inside my barns. I wouldn't worry too much about heat loss to the ground unless the ground is wet. I feel a solid wind break is needed especially for babies. An idea for you, I have found my sheep absolutely love to jump up on an old tool bench counter to lie down. Maybe some simple benches would keep them dry. I like the idea of portable housing. It would be nice to be able to hook up a tractor and move the barn rather than clean it out! Mark Wintermute -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terry Wereb Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 11:21 PM To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Subject: [blackbelly] Flooring for housing I have a decision to make, and I need some serious input-- I will be using portable housing for my flock in order to best utilize intensive grazing methods. the plans can be made so that the housing is made with or without a wood floor. either way I go-- the housing will be set on raised beds of crushed stone in orer to keep moisture away from the frame and skids of the building. This will also prevent the floor from getting flooded when it does rain. If I go no wood floor, the skids will be an issue for MY footing- I may have difficulty stepping over the skids on some days- I am sure the sheep will have no problem with it. If I use a floor, I will need to seal it against moisture from the normal animal waste process. Either way-- there will be deep bedding to prevent pressure sores. By deep-- I like to see horses knee deep when straw is just put in, so I figure sheep can be proportionately as deep, with a layer of corn cob bedding underneath for absorption of liquid waste. Is there an advantage to having a wood floor that anyone has noticed? I am looking at considerations of heat loss ( body to ground) in the winter, opportunities for unfriendly critters to set up housekeeping, and, of course, cost. I can originally build with no floor and add later-- the wall frames on the plans go up before the floor is laid down. I am located in NE Ohio- in the snow belt, so to speak. I will be building a floored building for my rabbits for the winter, as they won't pasture well then, and their building will also hold feed
