Re: [blackbelly] Poor Bailey

2006-12-15 Thread Johnson, Oneta
Gave Bailey some banamine last night. He is actually putting some wgt
and trying to walk on the bad leg this am. I have done the
betadine/sugar on horses. May have to try it.  
Question for the Wintermute's. Thank you again for calling. Helped so
much. How often can I give the banamine.Also, how long can we give the
antibiotics.  We try not to use either to much on horses so not sure for
Bailey boy.  Told my sister about the tape and she about died. Who would
have thought. We have a sign at the barn that states All held together
with bailing wire and duct tape, the redneck way. A friend gave me that
after seeing all the tape and wire. 
Thank all for your help and info. Please keep it coming. Even if I can
not use it for Bailey it may help someone else down the road. Oneta

Oneta Johnson
McLoud Telephone Company
Data Entry/CSR
 
Don't tell GOD what to do, just report for duty!

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Subject: [blackbelly] Poor Bailey

Hi Oneta,

Lambs have exceptional healing abilities but you must decide if you are
up
to the task of doctoring for a couple of months.

Banamine 50mg/ml 1cc intermuscle injection is great for anti-inflamatory
pain relief.

Dexamethasone 2mg/ml .5cc to 2cc intermuscle injection is great for
anti-inflamatory pain relief.  It basically is a steroid.  Dexamethasone
will lower resistance to infection so should only be used for initial
treatment.  Dexamethasone is also used to help induce labor in pregnant
ewes
so be careful.  Dexamethasone is also helpful for speeding up lung
development in fetuses.  This is helpful if you suspect a ewe is going
to
deliver prematurely.

Aspirin can be used but be careful about bleeding wounds since it thins
the
blood.

Clean the wound daily with hydrogen peroxide expressing any puss.  Once
it
is clean cover the wound lightly with penicillin G procaine and bandage.
Keep the wound covered as much as possible.

Don't let the lamb just lie around.  Encourage the lamb to walk and lay
upright (not on his side).



My boxer/heeler dogs have done the same thing.  Although the dogs
overreacted the lamb had it coming.  The lamb kept coming up to the dogs
and
butting them.  The dogs put up with it for quite some time knowing they
would get in trouble if they retaliated.  But 

Good luck,

Mark Wintermute  

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Re: [blackbelly] Poor Bailey

2006-12-15 Thread The Wintermutes
Hi Oneta,

I'll start with my disclaimer, I am not a veterinarian.

My most common use for Banamine is with ewes that have mastitis.  I give
them a shot morning and night for the first day.  One shot per day for the
next two days and then only as needed.  Of course I am milking them out and
using intramammary antibiotic injections as well since it is mastitis.

So my advice is to use the Banamine only until Bailey feels good enough to
get around.  The antibiotic is essential but can disrupt the rumen.  Like
the banamine hit it hard at first then every other day or so.  Use your
thermometer and make sure there is not a fever (102 or 103 is normal).  If
there is a fever keep giving the antibiotic.  Use your judgment of the wound
and Bailey's body language.  If Bailey's ears are droopy and he looks
depressed keep giving the antibiotic.  If he is alert without fever walking
around don't give antibiotic.  Pain is not a bad thing as it reminds the
lamb to take it easy!  Keep a real close eye on hurt lambs because they can
relapse very quickly.  Keep that wound clean and ward off infection.

Taking care of an injured animal is a measure of humanity.

Good Luck,

Mark Wintermute
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Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Poor Bailey

Gave Bailey some banamine last night. He is actually putting some wgt
and trying to walk on the bad leg this am. I have done the
betadine/sugar on horses. May have to try it.  
Question for the Wintermute's. Thank you again for calling. Helped so
much. How often can I give the banamine.Also, how long can we give the
antibiotics.  We try not to use either to much on horses so not sure for
Bailey boy.  Told my sister about the tape and she about died. Who would
have thought. We have a sign at the barn that states All held together
with bailing wire and duct tape, the redneck way. A friend gave me that
after seeing all the tape and wire. 
Thank all for your help and info. Please keep it coming. Even if I can
not use it for Bailey it may help someone else down the road. Oneta

Oneta Johnson
McLoud Telephone Company
Data Entry/CSR
 
Don't tell GOD what to do, just report for duty!

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Wintermutes
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 12:30 PM
To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info
Subject: [blackbelly] Poor Bailey

Hi Oneta,

Lambs have exceptional healing abilities but you must decide if you are
up
to the task of doctoring for a couple of months.

Banamine 50mg/ml 1cc intermuscle injection is great for anti-inflamatory
pain relief.

Dexamethasone 2mg/ml .5cc to 2cc intermuscle injection is great for
anti-inflamatory pain relief.  It basically is a steroid.  Dexamethasone
will lower resistance to infection so should only be used for initial
treatment.  Dexamethasone is also used to help induce labor in pregnant
ewes
so be careful.  Dexamethasone is also helpful for speeding up lung
development in fetuses.  This is helpful if you suspect a ewe is going
to
deliver prematurely.

Aspirin can be used but be careful about bleeding wounds since it thins
the
blood.

Clean the wound daily with hydrogen peroxide expressing any puss.  Once
it
is clean cover the wound lightly with penicillin G procaine and bandage.
Keep the wound covered as much as possible.

Don't let the lamb just lie around.  Encourage the lamb to walk and lay
upright (not on his side).



My boxer/heeler dogs have done the same thing.  Although the dogs
overreacted the lamb had it coming.  The lamb kept coming up to the dogs
and
butting them.  The dogs put up with it for quite some time knowing they
would get in trouble if they retaliated.  But 

Good luck,

Mark Wintermute  

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Re: [blackbelly] Poor Bailey

2006-12-15 Thread Mary Swindell
Hi Oneta,

I'm sure sorry to hear about your troubles with Bailey.  I want to add my 
support for the white table sugar poultices.  They work great to draw out 
infection and heal wounds.  Here's my story:

At the end of September we had a beginner herding clinic at my farm.  One 
of the herding sheep was a little wether who was already sold for 
slaughter, but the man did not want to have him processed yet, so I was 
keeping him until he grew a little more.  And somehow, he ended up in the 
herding bunch of sheep.  And somehow, he got tired and clumsey, and put his 
foot through a sharp piece of cattle panel, and ripped all the flesh off 
the lower part of his front leg.  Everything was exposed:  Veins, arteries, 
tendons, yuck!  He bled and bled, and was unable to get up.

We discussed putting him down on the spot, he was bleeding so bad.  But to 
buy ourselves some time, we poured betadine into the wound, bandaged it up 
pretty good, and wrapped it fairly tight, and put him away in a quiet small 
space to rest.  We did manage to get the bleeding stopped within 24 
hours.  But still there was the big issue of infection.  I had decided not 
to put antibiotics in him since we might have to put him down suddenly, and 
the man who purchased him would need to have the meat processed right 
away.  It kind of made the treatment method uncertain.   Also, since he 
wasn't a breeding animal, I wasn't gung ho about spending money for a vet 
outcall on him.

But it happened that the vet was coming out in 2 days for an interstate 
transport health inspection on some other sheep anyhow, so I had him look 
at this little wether while he was here.  I explained my dilemma about not 
being able to use antibiotics.

He said, Lets try this age-old  sugar poultice method, I have seen it work 
miraculously on another animal that we thought surely would never 
live.   On that animal, everything was exposed right down to the leg 
bones.  And after we did the sugar poultices for 2 weeks, the animal healed 
up to the point where you truly could not tell he had ever been injured.

He said it was a lot of work, because each day (or every 2 days) you would 
have to take the bandage off, gently pour water over the wound to rinse out 
the old sugar, and then sprinkle a generous pile of new white sugar 
directly on the open wound, and put a clean new bandage on it.  We used the 
biggest sterile gauze bandages and mediwrap, wrapped just tight enough but 
not too tight.  The vet told me that with this method, if the little guy 
began to go down, then we could butcher him immediately and the meat would 
be good.

So I kept the little guy in a small lot with another wether for a friend, 
and fed him as normal.  I moved all the other sheep to another area so he 
would have no stress.  And every other day, I would bring him in to a small 
pen and rinse, re-pack and replace his bandage as the vet indicated.   I 
used a small watering can with a long spout to rinse the wound (no 
touching).  And I just had a good supply of sugar ready in a little can, 
and I sprinkled it over the wound and let it mound up.  I never touched the 
wound with anything, just gently laid the fresh bandage over the new sugar.

In two weeks, I was able to take off the bandage for good.  During this 
time, his skin turned from red to pink, then the normal gray-brown color, 
and then hair began to grow back.  It was truly amazing.  Not one drop of 
antibiotics were used, and truthfully, we never even used any antiseptic 
after the first day of injury (no more betadine, alcohol, or 
anything).  The sugar did it all.

Good luck with your situation!

Mary


Mary Swindell
Bellwether Farm
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Cobden, IL  62920
(618) 893-4568 (home)
(618) 453-1697 (work)
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Re: [blackbelly] Poor Bailey

2006-12-14 Thread Johnson, Oneta
OK, I checked on the pen g and no one around here has it.  What else
would be good to dr with. I have been doing the underwoods but it is not
a antibiotic. We are just giving him the shots. Will give some ban as we
keep it for the horses.  Thanks oj

Oneta Johnson
McLoud Telephone Company
Data Entry/CSR
 
Don't tell GOD what to do, just report for duty!

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Wintermutes
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 12:30 PM
To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info
Subject: [blackbelly] Poor Bailey

Hi Oneta,

Lambs have exceptional healing abilities but you must decide if you are
up
to the task of doctoring for a couple of months.

Banamine 50mg/ml 1cc intermuscle injection is great for anti-inflamatory
pain relief.

Dexamethasone 2mg/ml .5cc to 2cc intermuscle injection is great for
anti-inflamatory pain relief.  It basically is a steroid.  Dexamethasone
will lower resistance to infection so should only be used for initial
treatment.  Dexamethasone is also used to help induce labor in pregnant
ewes
so be careful.  Dexamethasone is also helpful for speeding up lung
development in fetuses.  This is helpful if you suspect a ewe is going
to
deliver prematurely.

Aspirin can be used but be careful about bleeding wounds since it thins
the
blood.

Clean the wound daily with hydrogen peroxide expressing any puss.  Once
it
is clean cover the wound lightly with penicillin G procaine and bandage.
Keep the wound covered as much as possible.

Don't let the lamb just lie around.  Encourage the lamb to walk and lay
upright (not on his side).



My boxer/heeler dogs have done the same thing.  Although the dogs
overreacted the lamb had it coming.  The lamb kept coming up to the dogs
and
butting them.  The dogs put up with it for quite some time knowing they
would get in trouble if they retaliated.  But 

Good luck,

Mark Wintermute  

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Re: [blackbelly] Poor Bailey

2006-12-14 Thread The Wintermutes
Oneta, 

We buy it online at PBSAnimalHealth.com.

We get a lot of our supplies there.

Sharon 

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Oneta
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 1:15 PM
To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info
Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Poor Bailey

OK, I checked on the pen g and no one around here has it.  What else
would be good to dr with. I have been doing the underwoods but it is not
a antibiotic. We are just giving him the shots. Will give some ban as we
keep it for the horses.  Thanks oj

Oneta Johnson
McLoud Telephone Company
Data Entry/CSR
 
Don't tell GOD what to do, just report for duty!

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Wintermutes
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 12:30 PM
To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info
Subject: [blackbelly] Poor Bailey

Hi Oneta,

Lambs have exceptional healing abilities but you must decide if you are
up
to the task of doctoring for a couple of months.

Banamine 50mg/ml 1cc intermuscle injection is great for anti-inflamatory
pain relief.

Dexamethasone 2mg/ml .5cc to 2cc intermuscle injection is great for
anti-inflamatory pain relief.  It basically is a steroid.  Dexamethasone
will lower resistance to infection so should only be used for initial
treatment.  Dexamethasone is also used to help induce labor in pregnant
ewes
so be careful.  Dexamethasone is also helpful for speeding up lung
development in fetuses.  This is helpful if you suspect a ewe is going
to
deliver prematurely.

Aspirin can be used but be careful about bleeding wounds since it thins
the
blood.

Clean the wound daily with hydrogen peroxide expressing any puss.  Once
it
is clean cover the wound lightly with penicillin G procaine and bandage.
Keep the wound covered as much as possible.

Don't let the lamb just lie around.  Encourage the lamb to walk and lay
upright (not on his side).



My boxer/heeler dogs have done the same thing.  Although the dogs
overreacted the lamb had it coming.  The lamb kept coming up to the dogs
and
butting them.  The dogs put up with it for quite some time knowing they
would get in trouble if they retaliated.  But 

Good luck,

Mark Wintermute  

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Re: [blackbelly] Poor Bailey

2006-12-14 Thread Johnson, Oneta
OK. Do you just spay is with a syringe or rub with a glove. If I am
looking at the right stuff it is an inject able. 

Oneta Johnson
McLoud Telephone Company
Data Entry/CSR
 
Don't tell GOD what to do, just report for duty!

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Oneta, 

We buy it online at PBSAnimalHealth.com.

We get a lot of our supplies there.

Sharon 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Johnson,
Oneta
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 1:15 PM
To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info
Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Poor Bailey

OK, I checked on the pen g and no one around here has it.  What else
would be good to dr with. I have been doing the underwoods but it is not
a antibiotic. We are just giving him the shots. Will give some ban as we
keep it for the horses.  Thanks oj

Oneta Johnson
McLoud Telephone Company
Data Entry/CSR
 
Don't tell GOD what to do, just report for duty!

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Wintermutes
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 12:30 PM
To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info
Subject: [blackbelly] Poor Bailey

Hi Oneta,

Lambs have exceptional healing abilities but you must decide if you are
up
to the task of doctoring for a couple of months.

Banamine 50mg/ml 1cc intermuscle injection is great for anti-inflamatory
pain relief.

Dexamethasone 2mg/ml .5cc to 2cc intermuscle injection is great for
anti-inflamatory pain relief.  It basically is a steroid.  Dexamethasone
will lower resistance to infection so should only be used for initial
treatment.  Dexamethasone is also used to help induce labor in pregnant
ewes
so be careful.  Dexamethasone is also helpful for speeding up lung
development in fetuses.  This is helpful if you suspect a ewe is going
to
deliver prematurely.

Aspirin can be used but be careful about bleeding wounds since it thins
the
blood.

Clean the wound daily with hydrogen peroxide expressing any puss.  Once
it
is clean cover the wound lightly with penicillin G procaine and bandage.
Keep the wound covered as much as possible.

Don't let the lamb just lie around.  Encourage the lamb to walk and lay
upright (not on his side).



My boxer/heeler dogs have done the same thing.  Although the dogs
overreacted the lamb had it coming.  The lamb kept coming up to the dogs
and
butting them.  The dogs put up with it for quite some time knowing they
would get in trouble if they retaliated.  But 

Good luck,

Mark Wintermute  

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Re: [blackbelly] Poor Bailey

2006-12-14 Thread The Wintermutes
Use the injectable.


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Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Poor Bailey

OK. Do you just spay is with a syringe or rub with a glove. If I am
looking at the right stuff it is an inject able. 

Oneta Johnson
McLoud Telephone Company
Data Entry/CSR
 
Don't tell GOD what to do, just report for duty!

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Oneta, 

We buy it online at PBSAnimalHealth.com.

We get a lot of our supplies there.

Sharon 

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Johnson,
Oneta
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 1:15 PM
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Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Poor Bailey

OK, I checked on the pen g and no one around here has it.  What else
would be good to dr with. I have been doing the underwoods but it is not
a antibiotic. We are just giving him the shots. Will give some ban as we
keep it for the horses.  Thanks oj

Oneta Johnson
McLoud Telephone Company
Data Entry/CSR
 
Don't tell GOD what to do, just report for duty!

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Wintermutes
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 12:30 PM
To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info
Subject: [blackbelly] Poor Bailey

Hi Oneta,

Lambs have exceptional healing abilities but you must decide if you are
up
to the task of doctoring for a couple of months.

Banamine 50mg/ml 1cc intermuscle injection is great for anti-inflamatory
pain relief.

Dexamethasone 2mg/ml .5cc to 2cc intermuscle injection is great for
anti-inflamatory pain relief.  It basically is a steroid.  Dexamethasone
will lower resistance to infection so should only be used for initial
treatment.  Dexamethasone is also used to help induce labor in pregnant
ewes
so be careful.  Dexamethasone is also helpful for speeding up lung
development in fetuses.  This is helpful if you suspect a ewe is going
to
deliver prematurely.

Aspirin can be used but be careful about bleeding wounds since it thins
the
blood.

Clean the wound daily with hydrogen peroxide expressing any puss.  Once
it
is clean cover the wound lightly with penicillin G procaine and bandage.
Keep the wound covered as much as possible.

Don't let the lamb just lie around.  Encourage the lamb to walk and lay
upright (not on his side).



My boxer/heeler dogs have done the same thing.  Although the dogs
overreacted the lamb had it coming.  The lamb kept coming up to the dogs
and
butting them.  The dogs put up with it for quite some time knowing they
would get in trouble if they retaliated.  But 

Good luck,

Mark Wintermute  

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Re: [blackbelly] Poor Bailey

2006-12-14 Thread Johnson, Oneta
Ok. So I am looking at the correct meds. Do I spray it on the wound like
a tropical. 

Oneta Johnson
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Use the injectable.


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Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Poor Bailey

OK. Do you just spay is with a syringe or rub with a glove. If I am
looking at the right stuff it is an inject able. 

Oneta Johnson
McLoud Telephone Company
Data Entry/CSR
 
Don't tell GOD what to do, just report for duty!

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Oneta, 

We buy it online at PBSAnimalHealth.com.

We get a lot of our supplies there.

Sharon 

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Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 1:15 PM
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Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Poor Bailey

OK, I checked on the pen g and no one around here has it.  What else
would be good to dr with. I have been doing the underwoods but it is not
a antibiotic. We are just giving him the shots. Will give some ban as we
keep it for the horses.  Thanks oj

Oneta Johnson
McLoud Telephone Company
Data Entry/CSR
 
Don't tell GOD what to do, just report for duty!

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Wintermutes
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 12:30 PM
To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info
Subject: [blackbelly] Poor Bailey

Hi Oneta,

Lambs have exceptional healing abilities but you must decide if you are
up
to the task of doctoring for a couple of months.

Banamine 50mg/ml 1cc intermuscle injection is great for anti-inflamatory
pain relief.

Dexamethasone 2mg/ml .5cc to 2cc intermuscle injection is great for
anti-inflamatory pain relief.  It basically is a steroid.  Dexamethasone
will lower resistance to infection so should only be used for initial
treatment.  Dexamethasone is also used to help induce labor in pregnant
ewes
so be careful.  Dexamethasone is also helpful for speeding up lung
development in fetuses.  This is helpful if you suspect a ewe is going
to
deliver prematurely.

Aspirin can be used but be careful about bleeding wounds since it thins
the
blood.

Clean the wound daily with hydrogen peroxide expressing any puss.  Once
it
is clean cover the wound lightly with penicillin G procaine and bandage.
Keep the wound covered as much as possible.

Don't let the lamb just lie around.  Encourage the lamb to walk and lay
upright (not on his side).



My boxer/heeler dogs have done the same thing.  Although the dogs
overreacted the lamb had it coming.  The lamb kept coming up to the dogs
and
butting them.  The dogs put up with it for quite some time knowing they
would get in trouble if they retaliated.  But 

Good luck,

Mark Wintermute  

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Re: [blackbelly] Poor Bailey

2006-12-14 Thread The Wintermutes
Oneta, 

Send me ur phone number offlist.

I will call you immediately.

Sharon


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Ok. So I am looking at the correct meds. Do I spray it on the wound like
a tropical. 

Oneta Johnson
McLoud Telephone Company
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Use the injectable.


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OK. Do you just spay is with a syringe or rub with a glove. If I am
looking at the right stuff it is an inject able. 

Oneta Johnson
McLoud Telephone Company
Data Entry/CSR
 
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Oneta, 

We buy it online at PBSAnimalHealth.com.

We get a lot of our supplies there.

Sharon 

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OK, I checked on the pen g and no one around here has it.  What else
would be good to dr with. I have been doing the underwoods but it is not
a antibiotic. We are just giving him the shots. Will give some ban as we
keep it for the horses.  Thanks oj

Oneta Johnson
McLoud Telephone Company
Data Entry/CSR
 
Don't tell GOD what to do, just report for duty!

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Subject: [blackbelly] Poor Bailey

Hi Oneta,

Lambs have exceptional healing abilities but you must decide if you are
up
to the task of doctoring for a couple of months.

Banamine 50mg/ml 1cc intermuscle injection is great for anti-inflamatory
pain relief.

Dexamethasone 2mg/ml .5cc to 2cc intermuscle injection is great for
anti-inflamatory pain relief.  It basically is a steroid.  Dexamethasone
will lower resistance to infection so should only be used for initial
treatment.  Dexamethasone is also used to help induce labor in pregnant
ewes
so be careful.  Dexamethasone is also helpful for speeding up lung
development in fetuses.  This is helpful if you suspect a ewe is going
to
deliver prematurely.

Aspirin can be used but be careful about bleeding wounds since it thins
the
blood.

Clean the wound daily with hydrogen peroxide expressing any puss.  Once
it
is clean cover the wound lightly with penicillin G procaine and bandage.
Keep the wound covered as much as possible.

Don't let the lamb just lie around.  Encourage the lamb to walk and lay
upright (not on his side).



My boxer/heeler dogs have done the same thing.  Although the dogs
overreacted the lamb had it coming.  The lamb kept coming up to the dogs
and
butting them.  The dogs put up with it for quite some time knowing they
would get in trouble if they retaliated.  But 

Good luck,

Mark Wintermute  

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Re: [blackbelly] Poor Bailey

2006-12-14 Thread Johnson, Oneta
4059648600 is my work. oneta

Oneta Johnson
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Oneta, 

Send me ur phone number offlist.

I will call you immediately.

Sharon


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Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Poor Bailey

Ok. So I am looking at the correct meds. Do I spray it on the wound like
a tropical. 

Oneta Johnson
McLoud Telephone Company
Data Entry/CSR
 
Don't tell GOD what to do, just report for duty!

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Use the injectable.


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Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 1:49 PM
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Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Poor Bailey

OK. Do you just spay is with a syringe or rub with a glove. If I am
looking at the right stuff it is an inject able. 

Oneta Johnson
McLoud Telephone Company
Data Entry/CSR
 
Don't tell GOD what to do, just report for duty!

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Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Poor Bailey

Oneta, 

We buy it online at PBSAnimalHealth.com.

We get a lot of our supplies there.

Sharon 

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Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 1:15 PM
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Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Poor Bailey

OK, I checked on the pen g and no one around here has it.  What else
would be good to dr with. I have been doing the underwoods but it is not
a antibiotic. We are just giving him the shots. Will give some ban as we
keep it for the horses.  Thanks oj

Oneta Johnson
McLoud Telephone Company
Data Entry/CSR
 
Don't tell GOD what to do, just report for duty!

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Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 12:30 PM
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Subject: [blackbelly] Poor Bailey

Hi Oneta,

Lambs have exceptional healing abilities but you must decide if you are
up
to the task of doctoring for a couple of months.

Banamine 50mg/ml 1cc intermuscle injection is great for anti-inflamatory
pain relief.

Dexamethasone 2mg/ml .5cc to 2cc intermuscle injection is great for
anti-inflamatory pain relief.  It basically is a steroid.  Dexamethasone
will lower resistance to infection so should only be used for initial
treatment.  Dexamethasone is also used to help induce labor in pregnant
ewes
so be careful.  Dexamethasone is also helpful for speeding up lung
development in fetuses.  This is helpful if you suspect a ewe is going
to
deliver prematurely.

Aspirin can be used but be careful about bleeding wounds since it thins
the
blood.

Clean the wound daily with hydrogen peroxide expressing any puss.  Once
it
is clean cover the wound lightly with penicillin G procaine and bandage.
Keep the wound covered as much as possible.

Don't let the lamb just lie around.  Encourage the lamb to walk and lay
upright (not on his side).



My boxer/heeler dogs have done the same thing.  Although the dogs
overreacted the lamb had it coming.  The lamb kept coming up to the dogs
and
butting them.  The dogs put up with it for quite some time knowing they
would get in trouble if they retaliated.  But 

Good luck,

Mark Wintermute  

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Re: [blackbelly] Poor Bailey

2006-12-14 Thread john judy
this is a remedy i used on my dog that got tore up by a horse. she had an
area the size of a softball that was ripped open and no top layer of skin to
try and sew back together. i do not know if this will work on sheep though.
depending on size of open wound you take betadine and mix with granulated
sugar, mix well then apply to gauze and apply over wound. wrap this in place
with tape to hold on there for 24 hrs. then remove and ck the wound. you
should have pink tissue and nasty stuff should be gone.  the sugar eats
bacteria and betadine is aneseptic. may have to do several times but it
healed the dog nicely. can not evev tell there was a wound hair and skin
grew back
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Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Poor Bailey


 OK, I checked on the pen g and no one around here has it.  What else
 would be good to dr with. I have been doing the underwoods but it is not
 a antibiotic. We are just giving him the shots. Will give some ban as we
 keep it for the horses.  Thanks oj

 Oneta Johnson
 McLoud Telephone Company
 Data Entry/CSR

 Don't tell GOD what to do, just report for duty!

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of The
 Wintermutes
 Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 12:30 PM
 To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info
 Subject: [blackbelly] Poor Bailey

 Hi Oneta,

 Lambs have exceptional healing abilities but you must decide if you are
 up
 to the task of doctoring for a couple of months.

 Banamine 50mg/ml 1cc intermuscle injection is great for anti-inflamatory
 pain relief.

 Dexamethasone 2mg/ml .5cc to 2cc intermuscle injection is great for
 anti-inflamatory pain relief.  It basically is a steroid.  Dexamethasone
 will lower resistance to infection so should only be used for initial
 treatment.  Dexamethasone is also used to help induce labor in pregnant
 ewes
 so be careful.  Dexamethasone is also helpful for speeding up lung
 development in fetuses.  This is helpful if you suspect a ewe is going
 to
 deliver prematurely.

 Aspirin can be used but be careful about bleeding wounds since it thins
 the
 blood.

 Clean the wound daily with hydrogen peroxide expressing any puss.  Once
 it
 is clean cover the wound lightly with penicillin G procaine and bandage.
 Keep the wound covered as much as possible.

 Don't let the lamb just lie around.  Encourage the lamb to walk and lay
 upright (not on his side).



 My boxer/heeler dogs have done the same thing.  Although the dogs
 overreacted the lamb had it coming.  The lamb kept coming up to the dogs
 and
 butting them.  The dogs put up with it for quite some time knowing they
 would get in trouble if they retaliated.  But

 Good luck,

 Mark Wintermute

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