Re: [blackbelly] for sale

2006-01-19 Thread Susan Smith
Morning Rick,  I found the same here for the 4-H.  The kids can only show in 
Showmanship and Breed Classes with Blackbellys or any other breed of sheep.  
I have seen breeds other then market breeds go into the Breed Classes and 
the judges have no idea what the breed the kids are showing were.  The kids 
don't stand a chance  either if they want to be different then the norm.  I 
have spent 3 years trying to change this attitude in 4-H sheep judging to no 
avail.  If it doesn't look like a Suffolk it must not be a sheep!!  Sue







From: Rick Krach [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: [blackbelly] for sale
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 20:10:46 -0800

I have decided to sell an American Blackbelly, two year old, BOTTLE FED ewe
along with her latest, two month old girl lamb.  She is too small for my
flock, but would make a great pet for someone. Auburn is half an hour east
of Sacramento. Call me or email me and I'll email a family picture.

Talk about too small, I heard a curious thing today when a 4-H youngster
asked me about raising one of my sheep for Auburn's September county fair.
I learned from him that lambs at our fair had to meet the minimum
requirement of 80 pounds!  No wonder kids can never show Blackbellies!

Rick Krach
   Auburn, California
  (530) 889-1488


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Re: [blackbelly] for sale

2006-01-19 Thread Terry Wereb
Would county or state fairs have objections to
exhibits that were not competeing?  I noticed at my
county's fair last year that there were no meat
goats-- just dairy breeds. All the sheep were woolies.
One lady had a Scottish Highland cow and her calf
there-- but I believe it was entered as a beef
contender. There is one person who brings Irish
Dexter's-- and has a stand-up display of them working
under yoke.
  Getting a bunch of rare breeds together under one
tent, so to speak, may be a great way to spread the
word about other issues-- to more than just
agricultural people! And if the animals have been
handled so that they are docile (with and without
horns)and socialized to the experience, then that is
all the better for ambassadorship.

Terry W

--- Rick Krach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I learned from him that lambs at our fair had to
 meet the minimum 
 requirement of 80 pounds!  No wonder kids can never
 show Blackbellies!
 
 Rick Krach
Auburn, California
   (530) 889-1488
 
 
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Re: [blackbelly] for sale

2006-01-19 Thread Terry Wereb
I figure do what the alpaca people did  In other
words-- create a demand!!! But not on the Alpaca
scale--Quite frankly, I like Alpaca. llamas, etc-- but
I am NOT going to pay the equivalent of what, for me,
is two years of income for one animal!
  I will visit my extension office tomorrow and see if
maybe I can get a foot into the 4-H door. There is not
a lot of real animal agriculture going on in this
county-- but the two neighboring counties are pretty
much nothing but rural.  A friend passed on to me, via
e-mail, an article on how the mini-cows can actually
be used to produce more beef per acre than a
full-sized cow, and I am thinking that would be a
great way to sell the smaller hair sheep to the
bigger is better mentality. Sheep are a bit smaller
boned, proportionately, and they reproduce a lot
faster!!!

Terry

--- Susan Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Terry, County Fairs and State Fairs from my
 understanding do the 
 exotic/different breeds exhibits.
 I wish you luck with 4-H.  Sue
 
 
 
 
 From: Terry Wereb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Subject: Re: [blackbelly] for sale
 Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 05:56:29 -0800 (PST)
 
 Okay-- when I get my  sheep-ses- I will see what I
 can
 do for sheep! I am also considering rare breed
 rabbits. Maybe I can go through the ALBC membership
 directory, and Borrow a few other breeds/species
 for
 display purposes only for my local fairs-- there
 are
 four on four consecutive weekends here-- and one of
 them is THE GREAT GEAUGA COUNTY FAIR!!! ( Last fair
 of
 the year in Ohio. Always well attended-- AND the
 one
 of the two local ones that the AMISH attend. And I
 already know that those communities are looking for
 something to help with their farm economics- a few
 are
 already raising goats for the ethnic markets, but
 have
 few resources to get them there! And I can help
 with
 that!
 
 Terry
 
 --- Susan Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   I agree that is a great idea Terry!  Speaking
 from
   my own experience about
   puting up an exibit like that at a 4-H Fair, I
 ran
   into a bunch of well,
   we'll have to ask the fair board, or there is no
   monies for extra exibits,
   etc.  There was so much of that I just quit
 trying.
Not that you all
   should quit, but after 3 years of it I just
 decided
   to quit trying. I even
   tried to give preimuns to the children who won
 in
   all breed classes as an
   incentive to show other breeds of sheep,
 including
   Blackbellys and
   4-H wouldn't let me. If you could get a lot of
   people together who have
   different breeds of anything animal wise then go
 for
   it.  I still believe
   there is a place for Blackbellys at the fairs. 
 Sue
  
  
  
  
  
   From: Terry Wereb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Reply-To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info
   To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info
   Subject: Re: [blackbelly] for sale
   Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 05:19:56 -0800 (PST)
   
   Would county or state fairs have objections to
   exhibits that were not competeing?  I noticed
 at
   my
   county's fair last year that there were no meat
   goats-- just dairy breeds. All the sheep were
   woolies.
   One lady had a Scottish Highland cow and her
 calf
   there-- but I believe it was entered as a beef
   contender. There is one person who brings Irish
   Dexter's-- and has a stand-up display of them
   working
   under yoke.
  Getting a bunch of rare breeds together
 under
   one
   tent, so to speak, may be a great way to spread
 the
   word about other issues-- to more than just
   agricultural people! And if the animals have
 been
   handled so that they are docile (with and
 without
   horns)and socialized to the experience, then
 that
   is
   all the better for ambassadorship.
   
   Terry W
   
   --- Rick Krach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 I learned from him that lambs at our fair
 had to
 meet the minimum
 requirement of 80 pounds!  No wonder kids
 can
   never
 show Blackbellies!

 Rick Krach
Auburn, California
   (530) 889-1488



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