Re: failure notice
On Thu, 24 Jul 2003, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: On Thursday 24 July 2003 11:22, Scott R. Godin wrote: This could be similar to Apple's use of the Recent Applications and Recent Documents menus that were present in the Apple Menu through OS 9 (I don't currently know whether this is implemented in OS X, but it might be worth a peek.) recent apps is fairly trivial, it is a most recently used algorithm. The complexity comes from design decisions like do we care about storing state across program runs. recent documents on the other hand is IMPOSSIBLE for the wm to accomplish. wow. now I *really* wonder how Apple's doing it. :| -- Laughing Dragon Services http://www.webdragon.net/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://asgardsrealm.net/lurker/splash/index.html Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
list of recently used files (was Re: failure notice)
On Fri, 25 Jul 2003, Scott R. Godin wrote: This could be similar to Apple's use of the Recent Applications and Recent Documents menus that were present in the Apple Menu through OS 9 (I don't currently know whether this is implemented in OS X, but it might be worth a peek.) recent documents on the other hand is IMPOSSIBLE for the wm to accomplish. wow. now I *really* wonder how Apple's doing it. :| Can Mac OS X do it under X11 (with X11 clients) too? If it is just standard Mac OS X, then probably it has some standard API for opening files and it is recorded everytime (maybe if the file extension or mime type or something else indicates that the file is normal document). I don't use Windows, but I know it has a similar feature. Various GNOME and KDE applications also have this feature too. But it would depend on the software to do it. See Recent File Storage Specification at http://www.cs.indiana.edu/~jwillcox/recent-file-spec.html Jeremy C. Reed ... BSD software, documentation, resources, news... http://bsd.reedmedia.net/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://asgardsrealm.net/lurker/splash/index.html Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: feature wishin: a recentlyfrequently used menu workspacewarping
Chris Grossmann wrote: On July 24 (16:50 EDT), Anarky wrote: Chris Grossmann wrote: Since the blackbox menus are loaded dynamically as the files change, this would be something that could be done as an external script. I think it'd be great. If you need help testing a prototype, let me know. I'm not a blackbox developer :- My point is that you wouldn't need to be a developer. You can simply write an external script to do this. sounds scary to me :) Exactly what you want to do isn't clear. You want to move an app to a desktop? You mean from one desktop to another? Using bbappconf there is certainly a way to open an app on a specific desktop, and using bbkeys you can certainly open an app. I'd like to quickly move an app from one workspae to another: say I start something and it pops up in the wrong workspace, with something like ctrl-shift-4 I'd love to send it to workspace nr 4. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://asgardsrealm.net/lurker/splash/index.html Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: list of recently used files (was Re: failure notice)
--- Jeremy C. Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: On Fri, 25 Jul 2003, Scott R. Godin wrote: This could be similar to Apple's use of the Recent Applications and Recent Documents menus that were present in the Apple Menu through OS 9 (I don't currently know whether this is implemented in OS X, but it might be worth a peek.) recent documents on the other hand is IMPOSSIBLE for the wm to accomplish. wow. now I *really* wonder how Apple's doing it. :| Can Mac OS X do it under X11 (with X11 clients) too? If it is just standard Mac OS X, then probably it has some standard API for opening files and it is recorded everytime (maybe if the file extension or mime type or something else indicates that the file is normal document). I don't use Windows, but I know it has a similar feature. Various GNOME and KDE applications also have this feature too. But it would depend on the software to do it. See Recent File Storage Specification at http://www.cs.indiana.edu/~jwillcox/recent-file-spec.html Jeremy C. Reed ... BSD software, documentation, resources, news... http://bsd.reedmedia.net/ KDE's recent versions include that Recent Applications by default (or did I just turn that thing on in some configuration module?). It's located on KDE's 'start' menu, just above the program folders, only it's not a folder, you get 5 apps listed (this number can be changed). At least so it is in Mandrake Linux versions 9.0 and 9.1. I think it also has the Recent Documents feature, maybe not as a default, just try configuring the menu. Anyway, I do recall it did not save all of the opened documents. I think it had to do with the fact of how (with which app (terminals, file managers or other apps)) you opened a concerning document. I guess that's why Scott R. Godin said it is impossible for the wm to accomplish, at least completelly. In my case, that did the trick of me just ignoring that feature... = Jean-Dominique Ackle Braga, Portugal Mandrake Linux 9.1 ___ Yahoo! Mail O melhor e-mail gratuito da internet: 6MB de espaço, antivírus, acesso POP3, filtro contra spam. http://br.mail.yahoo.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://asgardsrealm.net/lurker/splash/index.html Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: feature wishin: a recentlyfrequently used menu workspacewarping
On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 19:17:05 +0300 Anarky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps you don't want to use the mouse, but, a right click on the title bar of any decorated window will allow you to send it to any workspace. yes, indeed I try to have as many keyboard shortcuts for anything I do often enough .. so this would be much needed for me .. but there are cases in which even that is not possible: xmms is giving me a hard time: no title bar :) .. it's cool that it doesn't have one .. but how do I move it to another workspace? And I need to do this often .. I have found some kind of a solution (minimizing and then taking it out in the right workspace) .. but still Either you go to the workspace you want to move it to, middle-click on the root window, go to the workspace entry were xmms is and middle-click on the xmms-entry. Or, you could use bbkeys to set a key-combo to toggle window decorations. That way you could give xmms a title bar temporary. /Mattias -- mattias östergren | /\ compsci student | \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign gävle, sweden| X No HTML in e-mail http://spikboll.net | / \ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://asgardsrealm.net/lurker/splash/index.html Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: list of recently used files (was Re: failure notice)
Y así habló Jean-D. Ackle [EMAIL PROTECTED]: KDE's recent versions include that Recent Applications by default (or did I just turn that thing on in some configuration module?). It's located on KDE's 'start' menu, just above the program folders, only it's not a folder, you get 5 apps listed (this number can be changed). At least so it is in Mandrake Linux versions 9.0 and 9.1. I think it also has the Recent Documents feature, maybe not as a default, just try configuring the menu. Anyway, I do recall it did not save all of the opened documents. I think it had to do with the fact of how (with which app (terminals, file managers or other apps)) you opened a concerning document. I guess that's why Scott R. Godin said it is impossible for the wm to accomplish, at least completelly. In my case, that did the trick of me just ignoring that feature... We should remember that KDE is not a WM but a whole desktop environment (Hence the DE in KDE). MacOS is a whole Operating System. That way they can do things that a wm alone cannot. -- Adriano Varoli Piazza The Inside Out: http://moranar.com.ar ICQ: 4410132 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://asgardsrealm.net/lurker/splash/index.html Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: feature wishin: a recentlyfrequently used menu workspacewarping
Y así habló Mattias Östergren [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 19:17:05 +0300 Anarky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps you don't want to use the mouse, but, a right click on the title bar of any decorated window will allow you to send it to any workspace. yes, indeed I try to have as many keyboard shortcuts for anything I do often enough .. so this would be much needed for me .. but there are cases in which even that is not possible: xmms is giving me a hard time: no title bar :) .. it's cool that it doesn't have one .. but how do I move it to another workspace? And I need to do this often .. I have found some kind of a solution (minimizing and then taking it out in the right workspace) .. but still Either you go to the workspace you want to move it to, middle-click on the root window, go to the workspace entry were xmms is and middle-click on the xmms-entry. Or, you could use bbkeys to set a key-combo to toggle window decorations. That way you could give xmms a title bar temporary. /Mattias You could also open xmms, go to its preferences menu, and tell it to show wm decorations. It is an available option. Looks ugly, but... -- Adriano Varoli Piazza The Inside Out: http://moranar.com.ar ICQ: 4410132 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Adriano Varoli Piazza The Inside Out: http://moranar.com.ar ICQ: 4410132 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://asgardsrealm.net/lurker/splash/index.html Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
