Re: Blackbox 0.70.0 beta2 released.

2004-09-15 Thread Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper
On Wed, 2004-09-08 at 11:25, Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper wrote:
 On Wed, 2004-09-08 at 08:53, Markus Ottenbacher wrote:
  Hi vanRijn,
  
  Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper wrote:
  [window decorations]
  
   what are you seeing that makes you think the that the capability still
   exists for bbkeys to send this message to blackbox?  something in lib/?
  
  No, in Window.cc exists a global method 'update_decorations' that 
  processes window decoration according to EWMH window type (eg window 
  type 'splash' has no decorations at all) and some extra hints and 
  conditions.
 
 I think (nyz, please correct me), that according to this, you can't
 change the decorations after the window has been created 
 http://freedesktop.org/Standards/wm-spec/1.3/ar01s05.html#id2503764
 
 please correct me if I'm wrong!

YAY, I was wrong!!!  =:D  I've just committed a change to CVS that gets
toggleDecorations working again!!  This time around, though, we're using
MOTIF_WM_HINTS, as per the discussion nyz and I had, instead of any
blackbox-specific atoms.  This means that bbkeys's toggleDecorations
will work with other window managers too!  I just tried both
blackbox-cvs and metacity 2.8.1 and they both switch decorations on and
off quite nicely.

please let me know if I've caused anyone's cat to cough up hairballs

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Re: Blackbox 0.70.0 beta2 released.

2004-09-08 Thread Markus Ottenbacher
Playing around with Blackbox 0.70.0beta2 and bbkeys-0.9.0beta2,
switching window decorations on or off does not seem to be working any
more.
After a short glance at the sources it seems to me, that the capability
is still in the blackbox sources, however I suspect that bbkeys sends 
the wrong kind of message.

Would this be hard to fix?
TNX
markus
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Re: Blackbox 0.70.0 beta2 released.

2004-09-08 Thread Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper
On Wed, 2004-09-08 at 05:30, Markus Ottenbacher wrote:
 Playing around with Blackbox 0.70.0beta2 and bbkeys-0.9.0beta2,
 switching window decorations on or off does not seem to be working any
 more.
 
 After a short glance at the sources it seems to me, that the capability
 is still in the blackbox sources, however I suspect that bbkeys sends 
 the wrong kind of message.
 
 Would this be hard to fix?

Hi Markus!

what are you seeing that makes you think the that the capability still
exists for bbkeys to send this message to blackbox?  something in lib/?

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Re: Blackbox 0.70.0 beta2 released.

2004-09-08 Thread Markus Ottenbacher
Hi vanRijn,
Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper wrote:
[window decorations]
what are you seeing that makes you think the that the capability still
exists for bbkeys to send this message to blackbox?  something in lib/?
No, in Window.cc exists a global method 'update_decorations' that 
processes window decoration according to EWMH window type (eg window 
type 'splash' has no decorations at all) and some extra hints and 
conditions.


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Re: Blackbox 0.70.0 beta2 released.

2004-09-08 Thread Brian Hechinger
so i haven't been paying attention to this list lately, just too much to do
really.  i'm still running 0.65.0, should i upgrade to 0.70.0?  maybe i should
go look at a changelog, there is one, right guys? ;)

maybe one of these days i'll get the Octane running again and make sure you
haven't broken compatability with super-anal compilers like MIPSpro. ;)

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Re: Blackbox 0.70.0 beta2 released.

2004-09-08 Thread Bradley T Hughes
On Wednesday 08 September 2004 15:30, Brian Hechinger wrote:
 so i haven't been paying attention to this list lately, just too much
 to do really.  i'm still running 0.65.0, should i upgrade to 0.70.0? 
 maybe i should go look at a changelog, there is one, right guys? ;)

changelog?  eh...no :/

 maybe one of these days i'll get the Octane running again and make
 sure you haven't broken compatability with super-anal compilers like
 MIPSpro. ;)

haven't tried MIPSpro, it would be interesting to see how it handles the 
code in the beta

 -brian
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Re: Blackbox 0.70.0 beta2 released.

2004-09-08 Thread Brian Hechinger
On Wed, Sep 08, 2004 at 03:50:16PM +0200, Bradley T Hughes wrote:
 
 changelog?  eh...no :/

ok then, so should i bother upgrading?  or is that silly, since BB currently
does exactly what i need and is fast and stable?

 haven't tried MIPSpro, it would be interesting to see how it handles the 
 code in the beta

well, unless you've done something serious to try and break it since i last
threw it at MIPSpro, it should Just Work(tm).

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Re: Blackbox 0.70.0 beta2 released.

2004-09-08 Thread Ciprian Popovici
Quoting Bradley T Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Wednesday 08 September 2004 15:30, Brian Hechinger wrote:
  so i haven't been paying attention to this list lately, just too much
  to do really.  i'm still running 0.65.0, should i upgrade to 0.70.0? 
  maybe i should go look at a changelog, there is one, right guys? ;)
 
 changelog?  eh...no :/

We can make one very easily. All one needs is a working copy of the
CVS, cd to it and run cvs2cl.pl: http://www.red-bean.com/cvs2cl/
It creates a very nice ChangeLog file. We can probably automate
this just like the nightlies, but it requires that working checked
out copy.

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Re: Blackbox 0.70.0 beta2 released.

2004-09-08 Thread Bradley T Hughes
On Wednesday 08 September 2004 15:58, Brian Hechinger wrote:
 On Wed, Sep 08, 2004 at 03:50:16PM +0200, Bradley T Hughes wrote:
  changelog?  eh...no :/

 ok then, so should i bother upgrading?  or is that silly, since BB
 currently does exactly what i need and is fast and stable?

that's a question i can't answer :)  i'm not recommending that people 
run the beta full-time (even though i do), but it shouldn't be too hard 
to give it a spin to see if it works.

  haven't tried MIPSpro, it would be interesting to see how it
  handles the code in the beta

 well, unless you've done something serious to try and break it since
 i last threw it at MIPSpro, it should Just Work(tm).

LOTS has changed between 0.65.0 and 0.70.0... we use more of the STL and 
other C++ features, so if you have a wierd compiler, it may take some 
effort to get up to speed again.

That being said, I have build blackbox with 2 different compilers: gcc 
and intel (as well as different versions of each).  it shouldn't be too 
hard to get it to compile with another compiler.

 -brian
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Blackbox 0.70.0 beta2 released.

2004-09-03 Thread Bradley T Hughes
The next beta is ready for testing.  This version includes support for 
Unicode and UTF-8, as well as fixing the 'Focus Last Window on 
Workspace' functionality.

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