kdebase-3.4.0

2005-04-13 Thread Robert Connolly
Hi. I noticed kdebase-3.4.0 installs ksysguarddrc and xdg/ to /usr/etc.. so it 
looks like --sysconfdir=/etc is needed for this package.

robert
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Re: openoffice fun

2005-04-13 Thread Robert Connolly
On April 13, 2005 11:42 am, Randy McMurchy wrote:
..
> Thanks for the report Robert. What version of J2SDK?

The versions in the book, j2sdk-1_4_2, except for 
j2sdk-1_4_2_08-linux-i586.bin (8 instead of 7).

robert
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Re: Book Reorganization

2005-04-13 Thread Jeremy Utley
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A while back I did the GNOME install. I got through it by following the various required and some optional packages but in some cases you get multiple levels deep following required packages and forget where you started. And, sometimes your not sure if you installed something or not. 
 

Here's how I solve that when following the BLFS book...keep in mind this 
is only one solution out of many possibilities, but this works quite 
well for me.  I'll use pseudo-examples for this.

It's time for me to build libfoo 1.0, so from the BLFS table of 
contents, I click on the link to the page with the build instructions 
for libfoo.  On this page, I note that libfoo depends on libbar, and 
libbaz.  So, I click on the link to libbar from the libfoo page, taking 
me to the page for libbar, which I notice, depends on libblah as well, 
so I click on that link, install libblah.  Once I've completed that, I 
use the convenient back-arrow on my browser, which takes me back to 
libbar - all deps are satisfied for that one, so I build it, and 
back-arrow again, bringing me back to libfoo.  The "visited link" 
tracking in the browser tells me that libbar is already builtthis 
fact is nice if I'm building in multiple sessions, and can't leave the 
browser open for whatever reason.  I see that libfoo still needs libbaz 
to satisfy it's deps, so I start the process all over again.

So therefore, by drilling down the dependency tree, and using the 
browser "back" function, I can easily keep track of where I am in the 
process.  Once I "back" all the way to the table of contents, it's time 
to build another package, and start the process all over again.

Just one man's method of settling deps, and a kudos to the BLFS 
developers for setting things up this way (even if it wasn't 
intentional, it's still VERY useful).

-J-
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Re: Book Reorganization

2005-04-13 Thread Ken Moffat
On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>
> Might also have somewhere statements that if you have installed
> package ABC (GNOME), package XYZ has met all of its required packages.
>
> John Gnew
>

 Except, that _optional_ packages are another matter entirely.  I used
to ignore sound packages because I didn't have the hardware.  Now that
I've got the hardware, there is a veritable cats-cradle of optional
dependencies for gnome and kde - my first thought was to stick sound and
video stuff in very early on (so I could play local files as soon as
possible), until I found an optional (I think) dependency on X in one of
the ogg dependencies.

 We don't seem to be a lot closer to listing what the optional
dependencies will do.  Some seem fairly obvious, others not.

 Also, some of the gnome applications will happily compile without
certain packages, but if the packages aren't present at run time the
features will be broken (e.g. 'help' or 'about' functions in e.g.
gnumeric can require yelp and "epiphany").

Ken
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Re: openoffice fun

2005-04-13 Thread Randy McMurchy
Robert Connolly wrote these words on 04/13/05 10:32 CST:
> Hi. I just wanted to let ya know I was successful using gcc-3.3.5 for 
> building 
> j2sdk and openoffice.

Thanks for the report Robert. What version of J2SDK?

Anything other than the new 1.5 (5.0) is what we have now. The
new version compiles just fine with GCC-3.4.3, but I know that
FOP for one, and I believe OpenOffice won't compile with the new
JDK.

I'm going to try to work out the FOP issues, as it may be some
time before a new version is released. OpenOffice probably will
contain fixes for the JDK-1.5 sometime soon.

So, we could update BLFS to the new JDK and just put notes in
the FOP and OpenOffice instructions that the 1.4.2 version of
the JDK is required.

I believe DJ is miles ahead of me on the JDK stuff, but I have been
using the JDK-1.5 for some time now and haven't encountered any
issues.

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openoffice fun

2005-04-13 Thread Robert Connolly
Hi. I just wanted to let ya know I was successful using gcc-3.3.5 for building 
j2sdk and openoffice. However the NAS package in openoffice failed, so I 
installed the standalone NAS version and used --with-system-nas.. that didn't 
work because the ./configure script in openoffice first tries to look for the 
NAS header in /usr/include, doesn't find it, and when it looks 
in /usr/X11R6/include it skips and fails because "no" is in cache.. So, I 
symlinked /usr/include/audio/ to /usr/X11R6/include/audio, and it worked 
after. Other than that everything worked.

robert
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Re: Book Reorganization

2005-04-13 Thread john_linux
I would like to recommend leaving the book the same with the exception of 
moving a few of the items that have been mentioned on this list. The current 
grouping makes it easy to look for a certian topic to find software 
applications. 

What would be benificial is a checklist to follow to install XYZ package. 

A while back I did the GNOME install. I got through it by following the various 
required and some optional packages but in some cases you get multiple levels 
deep following required packages and forget where you started. And, sometimes 
your not sure if you installed something or not. 

I am not sure how this checklist could be organized. Maybe seperate sections 
for KDE, GNOME, SSH, server vs desktop, secure setup, etc...  The checklist 
could have a box or a line to check in the left column that could be used if 
someone were to print the list. The text for each line item should have the 
link back to the package along with a short description.

Might also have somewhere statements that if you have installed package ABC 
(GNOME), package XYZ has met all of its required packages.

John Gnew
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