Re: [blfs-dev] Libre Office version

2012-06-17 Thread Andrew Benton
On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 06:44:55 +0100
Wayne Blaszczyk wblas...@bigpond.net.au wrote:

 Hi,
 Just noticed that the version of Libre Office is done in an
 unconventional way. Why is the entity libreoffice-version set to 3.5.4
 and then a .2 is appended throughout the libreoffice.xml page?

I don't know why, that's the way they do releases, they always add .2
to the end

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Re: [blfs-dev] Libre Office version

2012-06-17 Thread Wayne Blaszczyk
On 17/06/12 18:24, Andrew Benton wrote:
 On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 06:44:55 +0100
 Wayne Blaszczyk wblas...@bigpond.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi,
 Just noticed that the version of Libre Office is done in an
 unconventional way. Why is the entity libreoffice-version set to 3.5.4
 and then a .2 is appended throughout the libreoffice.xml page?
 
 I don't know why, that's the way they do releases, they always add .2
 to the end
 
 Andy

Then should libreoffice-version be set to 3.5.4.2 ?
Or are you saying that this version is 3.5.4 in which case the title is
showing  the wrong version? I'm confused.

Wayne.
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Re: [blfs-dev] transcode

2012-06-17 Thread Armin K.
On 06/17/2012 01:25 AM, Ken Moffat wrote:
   Anybody managed to build transcode with current ffmpeg ?

 ĸen


Nah, currently seems impossible. And I can't find any patch anywhere. I 
don't know why BLFS rushes to upgrade when it comes to ffmpeg, even 
tough it has been known that it can break something badly.
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Re: [blfs-dev] Libre Office version

2012-06-17 Thread Andrew Benton
On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 10:45:08 +0100
Wayne Blaszczyk wblas...@bigpond.net.au wrote:

 Then should libreoffice-version be set to 3.5.4.2 ?
 Or are you saying that this version is 3.5.4 in which case the title is
 showing  the wrong version? I'm confused.

I think it should be set as 3.5.4 in general.ent so that the URI is
always correct. The page says 3.5.4.2 everywhere in the text so a
reader shouldn't be confused.

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Re: [blfs-dev] transcode

2012-06-17 Thread Andrew Benton
On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 11:01:53 +0100
Armin K. kre...@email.com wrote:

 I don't know why BLFS rushes to upgrade when it comes to ffmpeg, even 
 tough it has been known that it can break something badly.

We have a general policy to always update packages to the latest stable
version. It's not possible to check everything that depends on it
before updating the book, if we required that the book would be like
Debian stable; way out of date. If it turns out that an important
package is broken by an update we can always revert the change later.

In this case I would argue that FFmpeg is more important than Transcode
(I don't install Transcode) and so if Transcode needs to be commented
out of the book for a few days while we find a fix then it's not the
end of the world.

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Re: [blfs-dev] transcode

2012-06-17 Thread Armin K.
On 06/17/2012 01:10 PM, Andrew Benton wrote:
 On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 11:01:53 +0100
 Armin K. kre...@email.com wrote:

 I don't know why BLFS rushes to upgrade when it comes to ffmpeg, even
 tough it has been known that it can break something badly.

 We have a general policy to always update packages to the latest stable
 version. It's not possible to check everything that depends on it
 before updating the book, if we required that the book would be like
 Debian stable; way out of date. If it turns out that an important
 package is broken by an update we can always revert the change later.

 In this case I would argue that FFmpeg is more important than Transcode
 (I don't install Transcode) and so if Transcode needs to be commented
 out of the book for a few days while we find a fix then it's not the
 end of the world.

 Andy


I agree it is latest stable, but so is 0.8.11 and 0.7.12 ... They are 
both latest, recent and stable (ABI and API stable) ... At least try to 
check packages that don't build/work. I've done my job of checking 
packages that I use, including gst-ffmpeg, alsa-plugins, gegl and such. 
I'd rather ditch some new feature for sake of other packages. ffmpeg api 
has been known to be problematic when major bump occours and I don't 
call that stable. Also, 0.10.3 wasn't that ancient (not even 3 months 
iirc). I rather like latest, stable *and working in all expected 
situations* instead of just latest and stable. I guess latest fully 
functional wins over latest available on my side. Ie, I am still using 
systemd 43 and udev 182 here ... They still work as expected (Only 
udev_acl is missing, and that one has been added into consolekit git 
repo - I need to get patch for that one).
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Re: [blfs-dev] transcode

2012-06-17 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 12:10:24PM +0100, Andrew Benton wrote:
 
 In this case I would argue that FFmpeg is more important than Transcode
 (I don't install Transcode) and so if Transcode needs to be commented
 out of the book for a few days while we find a fix then it's not the
 end of the world.
 
 Agreed, with regrets - I only started using transcode a couple of
months ago, when I wanted to rip the audio from some DVDs to CD.  It
worked, but I failed to make a note of the exact commands I'd used,
and I haven't managed to work out how I did it.

 Somehow, I doubt transcode will reappear in the book : development
was at berlios, and stopped some time ago, the site we were using is
just a copy of what is/was at berlios (because that will be going
away).  Unfortunately, google is not very helpful for the *package*
transcode, it just finds references to transcoding.

ĸen, feeling very pessimistic again
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[blfs-dev] firefox translations

2012-06-17 Thread Tobias Gasser
basic installation is no problem, just follow the book (i did xulrunner
+ firefox).

but:
getting the german language up and running was not as easy as with the
old 3.6

as i want german as GLOBAL default, i don't want to have to install the
xpi for each user.

here my solution:

download the desired xpi from
http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/${VERSION}/linux-i686/xpi/

for me it was de.xpi, and now

cp ${LANG}.xpi
/usr/X11/lib/firefox-${VERSION}/extensions/langpack-${LANG}@firefox.mozilla.org.xpi

the user now just has to activate the language as i is listed but
inactive in the languages.


if you don't need/want it global, each user has to install the xpi as it
is installed in the users .mozilla diretory by default


in about:config the following must be set:
general.useragent.locale = de-CH (or whatever fits your needs...)

very important to do all 3 steps:
- the xpi must be activated (or installed)
- the general.useragent.locale must be set
- restart firefox



maybe a paragraph about this would be useful for others...

tobias


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[blfs-dev] Bluetooth Stack

2012-06-17 Thread Armin K.
Does anyone has something against adding Bluetooth stack in the book? 
Todays notebooks come with bluetooth integraded, and it would be nice 
for us to have it available. Other than that, gnome-bluetooth and 
gnome-user-share need bluez and obexd to function properly tough. I 
suggest bluez, obexd and some gui program other than gnome-bluetooth for 
addition.
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[blfs-dev] util-macros-1.17

2012-06-17 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Is there supposed to be a 'make check' for util-macros-1.17?  The 
Makefile does not seem to have anything.

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Re: [blfs-dev] firefox + thunderbird translations + update

2012-06-17 Thread Tobias Gasser
Am 17.06.2012 18:11, schrieb Tobias Gasser:
 download the desired xpi from
 http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/${VERSION}/linux-i686/xpi/

 cp ${LANG}.xpi
 /usr/X11/lib/firefox-${VERSION}/extensions/langpack-${LANG}@firefox.mozilla.org.xpi


same for thunderbird

download from

http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/thunderbird/releases/${VERSION}/linux-i686/xpi/

and

cp ${LANG}.xpi
/usr/X11/lib/thunderbird-${VERSION}/extensions/langpack-${LANG}@thunderbird.mozilla.org.xpi

simply replace all 'firefox' with 'thunderbird'

general.useragent.locale = de-CH

has to be set too

as google was telling me my firefox is outdated, i just downloaded 
firefox and thunderbird 13.0.1

the same procedure as with 13.0 for xulrunner, firefox and thunderbird 
compiled with success


but google still tells me i'm outdated ;(

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Re: [blfs-dev] firefox translations

2012-06-17 Thread Fernando de Oliveira
--- Em dom, 17/6/12, Tobias Gasser escreveu:

 De: Tobias Gasser
 Assunto: [blfs-dev] firefox translations
 Para: blfs-dev
 Data: Domingo, 17 de Junho de 2012, 13:11
 basic installation is no problem,
 just follow the book (i did xulrunner
 + firefox).
 
 but:
 getting the german language up and running was not as easy
 as with the
 old 3.6
 
 as i want german as GLOBAL default, i don't want to have to
 install the
 xpi for each user.
 
 here my solution:
 
 download the desired xpi from
 http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/${VERSION}/linux-i686/xpi/
 
 for me it was de.xpi, and now
 
 cp ${LANG}.xpi
 /usr/X11/lib/firefox-${VERSION}/extensions/langpack-${LANG}@firefox.mozilla.org.xpi
 
 the user now just has to activate the language as i is
 listed but
 inactive in the languages.
 
 
 if you don't need/want it global, each user has to install
 the xpi as it
 is installed in the users .mozilla diretory by default
 
 
 in about:config the following must be set:
 general.useragent.locale = de-CH (or whatever fits your
 needs...)
 
 very important to do all 3 steps:
 - the xpi must be activated (or installed)
 - the general.useragent.locale must be set
 - restart firefox
 
 
 
 maybe a paragraph about this would be useful for others...
 


This is good. Thanks, Tobias.

What I do is different.

In .mozconfig:
ac_add_options --enable-ui-locale=pt-BR
ac_add_options --with-l10n-base=../

Download the file

wget -c 
https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/l10n/mozilla-release/pt-BR/archive/tip.tar.bz2 
-O firefox-13.0.source.tip.tar.bz2.

The file tip.tar.bz2 uncompress in a unusual way that changes between versions. 
For firefox 12.0, I had it uncompressed as the directory

pt-BR-1425d3501054.

For version 13.0:

pt-BR-d9b31c895dad

In the same directory buildir where firefox was uncompressed,

tar xf firefox-13.0.source.tip.tar.bz2 -C buildir
cd buildir
mv -v pt-BR* pt-BR
cd ../mozilla-release

...


Notice that in buildir there will be the directories mozilla-release and pt-BR.

The mv command deletes the varying part of the pt-BR* name and the build 
expects a dirname = ui-locale defined im .mozconfig, in my case, pt-BR.

For you, replace pt-BR by your LANG value.

At the end you have a localized firefox or thunderbird or xulrunner. Could not 
do the same for seamonkey, though, for a long time.

BTW, I did that today, for FF-13.0.1 and respective xulrunner.. For TB-13.0.1 
it did not build. And, as i wrote above, could not do for SM-2.10.1. With 
these, I will try tomorrow your instructions. (Im not in my regular machine.)

[]s,
Fernando
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