Re: Linking to the homepage /or freshmeat page for each package
On 7/14/05, Bruce Dubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tushar Teredesai wrote: Anyways, I am not suggesting including the FM entries for download locations, rather to point to the FM location in addition to the download links that we have so that user's can get more information on the package. I really don't want to add another link for approximately 360 packages. Additionally, we don't actually *use* the fm info. How hard is it for users to merely google for the package name and find the freshmeat or other relevant locations? Its not hard. But I suggested it coz I think of it as missing functionality. Before installing a package I like to check what the maintainer has to say about the package. For example the pci-utils homepage states that the package also included a library for accessing the pci bus. Sometimes they have notes on their homepage for some additional configuration. Some packages have the documentation so that it is easier to figure out if I really need the command before installing. Searching for the package is not as convinient as clicking on a link:) -- Tushar Teredesai mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/~tushar/ -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: Linking to the homepage /or freshmeat page for each package
Tushar Teredesai wrote: On 7/14/05, Bruce Dubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How hard is it for users to merely google for the package name and find the freshmeat or other relevant locations? Its not hard. But I suggested it coz I think of it as missing functionality. Before installing a package I like to check what the maintainer has to say about the package. For example the pci-utils homepage states that the package also included a library for accessing the pci bus. Sometimes they have notes on their homepage for some additional configuration. Some packages have the documentation so that it is easier to figure out if I really need the command before installing. Searching for the package is not as convinient as clicking on a link:) I agree, google isn't fun. If we can find a home or further information link we should provide it. Just to be complete, if for no other reason. -- David Jensen -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: Linking to the homepage /or freshmeat page for each package
David Jensen wrote these words on 07/15/05 11:02 CST: Tushar Teredesai wrote: Searching for the package is not as convinient as clicking on a link:) I agree, google isn't fun. If we can find a home or further information link we should provide it. Just to be complete, if for no other reason. Well, I'd guess that 9 out of 10 BLFS packages are downloaded from the maintainer's site already. For these packages, listing the maintainer's web site link would be redundant. And for many of the packages I've updated in the last year or so, I've included a link to the home page (or other related docs) if I've felt that including this information was warranted. I think we should take Tush's suggestion on a case-by-case basis, and if providing a link to extra information is felt helpful by an Editor, then do it. However, I don't think we need to say that we should do it for each package as a matter of course. -- Randy rmlscsi: [GNU ld version 2.15.94.0.2 20041220] [gcc (GCC) 3.4.3] [GNU C Library stable release version 2.3.4] -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: Linking to the homepage /or freshmeat page for each package
On Thu, Jul 14, 2005 at 11:47:10AM -0500, Tushar Teredesai wrote: I remember there was a discussion more than a year back about having a link to the package home page and/or its freshmeat entry so as to make it easier for users to get more information on the package. I see that LFS has already started pointing to the freshmeat entry. I Kinda out of the loop it seems. Freshmeat links have been pulled from the LFS book because we had no control over which version of a package was referenced by the download link and clicking through to find the right version was not always so cut and dry. Ultimately we went for the most likely official location of each package and put that in the book and it has worked better than freshmeat did. And with package version entities, maintenance is nearly nil other than updating sizes. -- Archaic Want control, education, and security from your operating system? Hardened Linux From Scratch http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/hlfs -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: Linking to the homepage /or freshmeat page for each package
On 7/14/05, Archaic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 14, 2005 at 11:47:10AM -0500, Tushar Teredesai wrote: I remember there was a discussion more than a year back about having a link to the package home page and/or its freshmeat entry so as to make it easier for users to get more information on the package. I see that LFS has already started pointing to the freshmeat entry. I Kinda out of the loop it seems. Freshmeat links have been pulled from the LFS book because we had no control over which version of a package was referenced by the download link and clicking through to find the right version was not always so cut and dry. Ultimately we went for the most likely official location of each package and put that in the book and it has worked better than freshmeat did. And with package version entities, maintenance is nearly nil other than updating sizes. I think I remember seeing that in the stable release. Probably 6.0. Anyways, I am not suggesting including the FM entries for download locations, rather to point to the FM location in addition to the download links that we have so that user's can get more information on the package. -- Tushar Teredesai mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/~tushar/ -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: Linking to the homepage /or freshmeat page for each package
Tushar Teredesai wrote: Anyways, I am not suggesting including the FM entries for download locations, rather to point to the FM location in addition to the download links that we have so that user's can get more information on the package. I really don't want to add another link for approximately 360 packages. Additionally, we don't actually *use* the fm info. How hard is it for users to merely google for the package name and find the freshmeat or other relevant locations? -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page