Re: [blfs-dev] [blfs-book] [BLFS Trac] #13355: mozjs-68.6.1

2020-04-04 Thread Bruce Dubbs via blfs-dev

On 4/4/20 8:33 PM, Ken Moffat via blfs-dev wrote:

On Sat, Apr 04, 2020 at 07:41:45PM +0100, Ken Moffat via blfs-dev wrote:

On Sat, Apr 04, 2020 at 12:54:57PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs via blfs-dev wrote:

On 4/4/20 12:15 PM, Ken Moffat via blfs-book wrote:



[ Cc: -dev added ]

I left it open because I hope there is some better way of keepign
the version, tarball size and md5sum in-sync.  I sort of assumed
that using e.g. md5sum from one package in another would break
things (don't have time to check that at the moment).


Well the md5sum and package size won't change.  We kinda to the same thing
with bind and bind-utilities.  They are two different builds of the same
tarball.

In a similar situation we have qt5 and QtWebEngine.  Although 'webengine' is
available as a separate tarball, we almost always build both at each new
release.

The problem with js is if some package, e.g. seamonkey or thunderbird, does
not keep up with firefox.  We also have the issue of polkit still at js60.
I checked into that and polkit does not build with js68. However it does
seem that there is only one polkit file that uses js.



Thanks for the pointer to bind and bind-utils : I'll change JS68 and
packages.


And now I'll note tht it isn't an ideal solution - copying
firefox-size into js68 worked, but only because it was (re) defined
in js68.  If I comment that part, js68 does not validate because
firefox-size is not defined (i.e. the definition is local to each
xml file).

What I was hoping for was some way of defining it once, so that both
users can only show the same value.  I suppose putting the size and
md5sum in packages could do that (ditto for bind), but that would
look messy.

I'm also grumpy that I've now got to measure js68 when I update
firefox, but at least js68 can be used generally after the next
polkit release happens.


OK, Grumpy.  We could try to use common md5sums by creating entities in 
general.ent, but that would make things inconsistent.  Since jsxx needs 
to be rebuilt anyway for timing and build size, is it really that hard 
to just copy the md5sum into the page?  I double check the md5sums for 
all new packages anyway, so a mistake can be caught quickly.


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Re: [blfs-dev] [blfs-book] [BLFS Trac] #13355: mozjs-68.6.1

2020-04-04 Thread Ken Moffat via blfs-dev
On Sat, Apr 04, 2020 at 07:41:45PM +0100, Ken Moffat via blfs-dev wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 04, 2020 at 12:54:57PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs via blfs-dev wrote:
> > On 4/4/20 12:15 PM, Ken Moffat via blfs-book wrote:
> > > > 
> > > [ Cc: -dev added ]
> > > 
> > > I left it open because I hope there is some better way of keepign
> > > the version, tarball size and md5sum in-sync.  I sort of assumed
> > > that using e.g. md5sum from one package in another would break
> > > things (don't have time to check that at the moment).
> > 
> > Well the md5sum and package size won't change.  We kinda to the same thing
> > with bind and bind-utilities.  They are two different builds of the same
> > tarball.
> > 
> > In a similar situation we have qt5 and QtWebEngine.  Although 'webengine' is
> > available as a separate tarball, we almost always build both at each new
> > release.
> > 
> > The problem with js is if some package, e.g. seamonkey or thunderbird, does
> > not keep up with firefox.  We also have the issue of polkit still at js60.
> > I checked into that and polkit does not build with js68. However it does
> > seem that there is only one polkit file that uses js.
> > 
> 
> Thanks for the pointer to bind and bind-utils : I'll change JS68 and
> packages.
> 
And now I'll note tht it isn't an ideal solution - copying
firefox-size into js68 worked, but only because it was (re) defined
in js68.  If I comment that part, js68 does not validate because
firefox-size is not defined (i.e. the definition is local to each
xml file).

What I was hoping for was some way of defining it once, so that both
users can only show the same value.  I suppose putting the size and
md5sum in packages could do that (ditto for bind), but that would
look messy.

I'm also grumpy that I've now got to measure js68 when I update
firefox, but at least js68 can be used generally after the next
polkit release happens.

ĸen
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Re: [blfs-dev] [blfs-book] [BLFS Trac] #13355: mozjs-68.6.1

2020-04-04 Thread Ken Moffat via blfs-dev
On Sat, Apr 04, 2020 at 12:54:57PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs via blfs-dev wrote:
> On 4/4/20 12:15 PM, Ken Moffat via blfs-book wrote:
> > > 
> > [ Cc: -dev added ]
> > 
> > I left it open because I hope there is some better way of keepign
> > the version, tarball size and md5sum in-sync.  I sort of assumed
> > that using e.g. md5sum from one package in another would break
> > things (don't have time to check that at the moment).
> 
> Well the md5sum and package size won't change.  We kinda to the same thing
> with bind and bind-utilities.  They are two different builds of the same
> tarball.
> 
> In a similar situation we have qt5 and QtWebEngine.  Although 'webengine' is
> available as a separate tarball, we almost always build both at each new
> release.
> 
> The problem with js is if some package, e.g. seamonkey or thunderbird, does
> not keep up with firefox.  We also have the issue of polkit still at js60.
> I checked into that and polkit does not build with js68. However it does
> seem that there is only one polkit file that uses js.
> 

Thanks for the pointer to bind and bind-utils : I'll change JS68 and
packages.

ĸen
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Re: [blfs-dev] Question about updating BLFS Boot Scripts

2020-04-04 Thread Bruce Dubbs via blfs-dev

On 4/4/20 12:57 PM, Tim Tassonis via blfs-dev wrote:



On 4/4/20 7:15 PM, Bruce Dubbs via blfs-dev wrote:

On 4/4/20 5:09 AM, Tim Tassonis via blfs-dev wrote:

Hi all


As dhcpcd 9.0.0 changed the location of its pidfile(-s), the 
/lib/services/dhcpcd bootscript has to be updated.


I did this, but I dont know how then to prepare the needed tar.xz 
package.


Can anybody tell me how to go about this?


First, make any changes needed in the scripts directory.
Then change blfs-bootscripts-version in general.ent.
make/commit

Everything else should be automatic.


Ok, done that, in commit 22950.

Hope, that's ok


Should be picked up in tonight's build.  Also, you might want to add an 
entry to the ChangeLog in the bootscripts directory.  That's not 
critical though.


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Re: [blfs-dev] Question about updating BLFS Boot Scripts

2020-04-04 Thread Tim Tassonis via blfs-dev



On 4/4/20 7:15 PM, Bruce Dubbs via blfs-dev wrote:

On 4/4/20 5:09 AM, Tim Tassonis via blfs-dev wrote:

Hi all


As dhcpcd 9.0.0 changed the location of its pidfile(-s), the 
/lib/services/dhcpcd bootscript has to be updated.


I did this, but I dont know how then to prepare the needed tar.xz 
package.


Can anybody tell me how to go about this?


First, make any changes needed in the scripts directory.
Then change blfs-bootscripts-version in general.ent.
make/commit

Everything else should be automatic.


Ok, done that, in commit 22950.

Hope, that's ok

Bye
Tim
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Re: [blfs-dev] [blfs-book] [BLFS Trac] #13355: mozjs-68.6.1

2020-04-04 Thread Bruce Dubbs via blfs-dev

On 4/4/20 12:15 PM, Ken Moffat via blfs-book wrote:

On Sat, Apr 04, 2020 at 05:00:27PM -, BLFS Trac wrote:

#13355: mozjs-68.6.1
-+-
  Reporter:  xry111   |   Owner:  bdubbs
  Type:  enhancement  |  Status:  closed
  Priority:  normal   |   Milestone:  9.2
Component:  BOOK | Version:  SVN
  Severity:  normal   |  Resolution:  fixed
  Keywords:   |
-+-
Changes (by bdubbs):

  * status:  assigned => closed
  * resolution:   => fixed


Comment:

  I took this by mistake.  Ken already fixed it.


[ Cc: -dev added ]

I left it open because I hope there is some better way of keepign
the version, tarball size and md5sum in-sync.  I sort of assumed
that using e.g. md5sum from one package in another would break
things (don't have time to check that at the moment).


Well the md5sum and package size won't change.  We kinda to the same 
thing with bind and bind-utilities.  They are two different builds of 
the same tarball.


In a similar situation we have qt5 and QtWebEngine.  Although 
'webengine' is available as a separate tarball, we almost always build 
both at each new release.


The problem with js is if some package, e.g. seamonkey or thunderbird, 
does not keep up with firefox.  We also have the issue of polkit still 
at js60.  I checked into that and polkit does not build with js68. 
However it does seem that there is only one polkit file that uses js.


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Re: [blfs-dev] Question about updating BLFS Boot Scripts

2020-04-04 Thread Bruce Dubbs via blfs-dev

On 4/4/20 5:09 AM, Tim Tassonis via blfs-dev wrote:

Hi all


As dhcpcd 9.0.0 changed the location of its pidfile(-s), the 
/lib/services/dhcpcd bootscript has to be updated.


I did this, but I dont know how then to prepare the needed tar.xz package.

Can anybody tell me how to go about this?


First, make any changes needed in the scripts directory.
Then change blfs-bootscripts-version in general.ent.
make/commit

Everything else should be automatic.

  -- Bruce

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Re: [blfs-dev] [BLFS Trac] #13355: mozjs-68.6.1

2020-04-04 Thread Ken Moffat via blfs-dev
On Sat, Apr 04, 2020 at 05:00:27PM -, BLFS Trac wrote:
> #13355: mozjs-68.6.1
> -+-
>  Reporter:  xry111   |   Owner:  bdubbs
>  Type:  enhancement  |  Status:  closed
>  Priority:  normal   |   Milestone:  9.2
> Component:  BOOK | Version:  SVN
>  Severity:  normal   |  Resolution:  fixed
>  Keywords:   |
> -+-
> Changes (by bdubbs):
> 
>  * status:  assigned => closed
>  * resolution:   => fixed
> 
> 
> Comment:
> 
>  I took this by mistake.  Ken already fixed it.
> 
[ Cc: -dev added ]

I left it open because I hope there is some better way of keepign
the version, tarball size and md5sum in-sync.  I sort of assumed
that using e.g. md5sum from one package in another would break
things (don't have time to check that at the moment).

ĸen
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Re: [blfs-dev] linux kernel 5.6 stable SVN-20200401

2020-04-04 Thread Jean-Marc Pigeon via blfs-dev
Hello,

On Fri, 2020-04-03 at 14:17 -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
> On 4/3/20 2:01 PM, Jean-Marc Pigeon wrote:
> > On Fri, 2020-04-03 at 12:43 -0500, Bruce Dubbs via blfs-dev wrote:
> > > On 4/3/20 12:41 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
> > > > On 4/3/20 11:47 AM, Pierre Labastie via blfs-dev wrote:
> > > > > On Fri, 2020-04-03 at 10:18 -0500, Douglas R. Reno via blfs-
> > > > > dev
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > On 4/3/20 9:35 AM, Jean-Marc Pigeon via blfs-dev wrote:
> > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > According to me, kernel 5.6 is now "mainline" and stable.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Is there something wrong with 5.6 such LFS SVN-20200401
> > > > > > > is not including the 5.6 family??
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > My own point of interest with 5.6 is the time_namespace
> > > > > > > (for containers).
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Is 5.6.2 too new to be considered for the (B)LFS project?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > With early 5.6 versions, 5.6/5.6.1, the Intel Wireless
> > > > > > driver
> > > > > > (IWLWIFI)
> > > > > > was broken. I think we're holding to see if any other
> > > > > > regressions
> > > > > > show
> > > > > > up under this release
> > > > > 
> > > > > Hmm I think from the thread on lfs-dev, that the kernel
> > > > > version
> > > > > will be
> > > > > updated when other packages need to be updated in lfs. It
> > > > > does
> > > > > not
> > > > > prevent users to update to recent kernels, of course... Maybe
> > > > > we
> > > > > could
> > > > > amend the note on the "All packages" page by telling to
> > > > > update to
> > > > > the
> > > > > most recent mainline version instead of the most recent 5.5.x
> > > > > version.
> > > > 
> > > > I'll go ahead and make that change.
> > > 
> > > But I made that the latest stable version, not mainline.
> > > 
> > > -- Bruce
> > > 
> > My understanding of /www.kernel.org
> > mainline is 5.6
> > stable is 5.6.2
> > (5.5.15 is flagged stable too).
> > May be LFS could "jump" to 5.6.X
> 
> I don't plan on doing an update until April 15 or so.  I'll update
> to 
> 5.6.X then.  In the meantime, the note in Chapter 3 should be
> sufficient.
> 
>-- Bruce
> 
> 
> 
I was successfull to compile allmost everything (blfs)
with kernel 5.6.2, no real problem, looking good at first, but
ZFS (0.8.3 and not part of the official BLFS) is not compiling
seems kernel 5.6 is addressing the "Year 2038 problem" plus doing
'convert everything to "struct proc_ops"'.

This mean big impact on applications/utilities in direct interface
with kernel layers...

So, sadly, I will step back to kernel 5.5, giving time to
upstream components to be adjusted to kernel 5.6 new definitions.

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[blfs-dev] Question about updating BLFS Boot Scripts

2020-04-04 Thread Tim Tassonis via blfs-dev

Hi all


As dhcpcd 9.0.0 changed the location of its pidfile(-s), the 
/lib/services/dhcpcd bootscript has to be updated.


I did this, but I dont know how then to prepare the needed tar.xz package.

Can anybody tell me how to go about this?


Bye
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