Re: [blfs-dev] Network-manager-applet and libnma split as well as package placement

2020-04-01 Thread Ken Moffat via blfs-dev
On Thu, Apr 02, 2020 at 08:30:30AM +0800, Xi Ruoyao via blfs-dev
wrote:
> On 2020-04-01 18:48 -0500, Douglas R. Reno via blfs-dev wrote:
> > Good evening,
> > 
> > While looking at #13243 and updating gnome-control-center, I
> > noticed that network-manager-applet has split it's library into
> > "libnma", which is what programs such as gnome-control-center
> > itself will link to.
> > 
> > Network-manager-applet can be used in XFCE or LXDE to setup the
> > network through a graphical session - which is especially useful
> > on laptops. I recall Ken using it at one point as well.
> > 
Yeah, still using it with xfce on my laptop - but I don't plan to
update that system, except for vulnerabilities, until our next
release, and anyway the positioning within the book doesn't affect
me.

> > I'd like to propose moving network-manager-applet to "Network
> > Programs" and adding libnma to "Networking Libraries".
> 
> I agree.  polkit-gnome and notification-daemon should also be
> moved out.
> 
> > On that note, it seems that Mutter will require Graphene (as Xi
> > noted in #13242 - thanks for telling me that it's M/N/NI). I'd
> > like to propose adding that to "X Libraries".
> > 
> > gnome-settings-daemon's tests also needed 'umockdev' to complete
> > the power section. Should we decide to add that, I'd like to
> > propose it going into General Libraries. It would also be used
> > in libgusb and upower for tests - however I'd say adding it is
> > optional since we can mark the test suite as not functional
> > unless it's installed (it also seems to use Mutter, which would
> > cause a circular dependency - I'm not sure how to handle that).
> 
> Just put mutter into "optional (required for tests)".  -- Xi
> Ruoyao  School of Aerospace Science and
> Technology, Xidian University
> 

You guys are the experts on this, I've no objection to whatever you
propose for these packages.

ĸen
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Re: [blfs-dev] Network-manager-applet and libnma split as well as package placement

2020-04-01 Thread Xi Ruoyao via blfs-dev
On 2020-04-01 18:48 -0500, Douglas R. Reno via blfs-dev wrote:
> Good evening,
> 
> While looking at #13243 and updating gnome-control-center, I noticed 
> that network-manager-applet has split it's library into "libnma", which 
> is what programs such as gnome-control-center itself will link to.
> 
> Network-manager-applet can be used in XFCE or LXDE to setup the network 
> through a graphical session - which is especially useful on laptops. I 
> recall Ken using it at one point as well.
> 
> I'd like to propose moving network-manager-applet to "Network Programs" 
> and adding libnma to "Networking Libraries".

I agree.  polkit-gnome and notification-daemon should also be moved out.

> On that note, it seems that Mutter will require Graphene (as Xi noted in 
> #13242 - thanks for telling me that it's M/N/NI). I'd like to propose 
> adding that to "X Libraries".
> 
> gnome-settings-daemon's tests also needed 'umockdev' to complete the 
> power section. Should we decide to add that, I'd like to propose it 
> going into General Libraries. It would also be used in libgusb and 
> upower for tests - however I'd say adding it is optional since we can 
> mark the test suite as not functional unless it's installed (it also 
> seems to use Mutter, which would cause a circular dependency - I'm not 
> sure how to handle that).

Just put mutter into "optional (required for tests)".
-- 
Xi Ruoyao 
School of Aerospace Science and Technology, Xidian University

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