Re: [Blind-Computing] strange e mail

2007-09-13 Thread Arya
Thanks for all your guidance,
I deleted the message.
Thanks for all your efforts.
In a day, when you don't come across any problems,  -you can be sure that 
you are travelling in the wrong path -.  .
SWAMI  -  VIVEKANANDHA .
- Original Message - 
From: Tony Hernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] strange e mail


 Hi.

 That email has no from or subject because the person probably used a
 unix-based utility like sendmail to send the email as part of their
 automated spam campaign.  They want people to open them in the hopes that
 the person who does so has their email client set  to view emails in html
 rather than plain text.  This is because, in these kinds of emails, there 
 is
 code that sends a call to a server that let's the spammer know that the
 email has been open.  Then the spammer knows that they have a live one, 
 and
 proceed to send the real spam.  So don't open those emails; just delete
 them.  Hope this helps.

 Tony Hernandez

 - Original Message - 
 From: Arya [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:14 AM
 Subject: [Blind-Computing] strange e mail


 Hi friends,
 Today I received one email  , with out any from address and to address , 
 but
 the body is well written.
 Is it a virus?.
 Can I  reply to that mail, it is from a unnone person.
 Myquestion is :
 Is it  possible to send a mail with out from address and to address?!.
 With regards.

 In a day, when you don't come across any problems,  -you can be sure that
 you are travelling in the wrong path -.  .
 SWAMI  -  VIVEKANANDHA .
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[Blind-Computing] java and Jaws

2007-09-13 Thread Larry Stansifer
Hi folks,
 
What are the features and benefits of having Java installed
on my machine?
 
I read through the Jaws and Java blurb in the popular
applications section of Jaws, searched both blind computing
and jaws-users and couldn't find much.
I am using Jaws 8.current, IE-7 and windows-XP home.
 
Thanks for any assistance you can provide.
 
Regards
 
Larry Stansifer
 
Thou art rewarded for thy results not for thine efforts.
 
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Re: [Blind-Computing] java and Jaws

2007-09-13 Thread Chris Hallsworth
The only benefit I know of having Java on your machine is to run programmes 
written in the Java cross-platform programming language. Hope that helps.
Chris Hallsworth
BrailleNote mPower user
- Original Message - 
From: Larry Stansifer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 1:24 PM
Subject: [Blind-Computing] java and Jaws


 Hi folks,

 What are the features and benefits of having Java installed
 on my machine?

 I read through the Jaws and Java blurb in the popular
 applications section of Jaws, searched both blind computing
 and jaws-users and couldn't find much.
 I am using Jaws 8.current, IE-7 and windows-XP home.

 Thanks for any assistance you can provide.

 Regards

 Larry Stansifer

 Thou art rewarded for thy results not for thine efforts.

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Re: [Blind-Computing] java and Jaws

2007-09-13 Thread Larry Stansifer

Is there any way to tell if a web site employs Java?
What is the downside if any to having it installed?
Is this something that I need to load and unload each time I
visit a web site?

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Chris Hallsworth
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 6:37 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] java and Jaws


The only benefit I know of having Java on your machine is to
run programmes 
written in the Java cross-platform programming language.
Hope that helps. Chris Hallsworth BrailleNote mPower user
- Original Message - 
From: Larry Stansifer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 1:24 PM
Subject: [Blind-Computing] java and Jaws


 Hi folks,

 What are the features and benefits of having Java
installed on my 
 machine?

 I read through the Jaws and Java blurb in the popular
applications 
 section of Jaws, searched both blind computing and
jaws-users and 
 couldn't find much. I am using Jaws 8.current, IE-7 and
windows-XP 
 home.

 Thanks for any assistance you can provide.

 Regards

 Larry Stansifer

 Thou art rewarded for thy results not for thine efforts.

 The Rogue Warrior

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[Blind-Computing] strainge problum in OE

2007-09-13 Thread Mich
hi all. I am just wondering. Just now as I was going through my E Males in OE 
it said the following when i oapind up a message [blindmoviebuff] names of 
recent heroes un... minimize symbol maximize symbol
File Edit View Tools Message Help
Reply Reply All Forward Print Delete Previous
From: Sender Unspecified
Date: Thursday, September 13, 2007 9:00 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [blindmoviebuff] names of recent heroes unmasked eepisodes d
Outlook Express encountered an 
unexpected problem while displaying this 
message. Check your computer for low 
memory or low disk space and try again.
Outlook Express n Now this doesn't happen on every message but I am just 
wondering what this could meen? and weather it is something that I need to be 
worried about? Many Thanks. from Mich Verrier. PS I did have my pc on all night 
wile i was converting some stuff so do you think that might have something to 
do with this? from Mich Verrier from New Liskeard Ontario Canada.
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Re: [Blind-Computing] strainge problum in OE

2007-09-13 Thread Ricque
Hi Mich,
When you first encounter a problem like this, the simplest thing to do, is to 
reboot the machine.
HTH,
Richard Justice
www.blind-computing.com
- Original Message - 
From: Mich
To: blind-computing @jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 9:35 AM
Subject: [Blind-Computing] strainge problum in OE


hi all. I am just wondering. Just now as I was going through my E Males in OE 
it said the following 
when i oapind up a message [blindmoviebuff] names of recent heroes un... 
minimize symbol maximize 
symbol
File Edit View Tools Message Help
Reply Reply All Forward Print Delete Previous
From: Sender Unspecified
Date: Thursday, September 13, 2007 9:00 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [blindmoviebuff] names of recent heroes unmasked eepisodes d
Outlook Express encountered an
unexpected problem while displaying this
message. Check your computer for low
memory or low disk space and try again.
Outlook Express n Now this doesn't happen on every message but I am just 
wondering what this could 
meen? and weather it is something that I need to be worried about? Many Thanks. 
from Mich Verrier. 
PS I did have my pc on all night wile i was converting some stuff so do you 
think that might have 
something to do with this? from Mich Verrier from New Liskeard Ontario Canada.
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Re: [Blind-Computing] java and Jaws

2007-09-13 Thread Ricque
Hi Larry,
No real downside to having it installed,
and when it is necessary, it will be used by the application requiring it.
No user interaction required, unless you choose to update it.
HTH,
Richard Justice
www.blind-computing.com
- Original Message - 
From: Larry Stansifer
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 9:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] java and Jaws



Is there any way to tell if a web site employs Java?
What is the downside if any to having it installed?
Is this something that I need to load and unload each time I
visit a web site?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Chris Hallsworth
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 6:37 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] java and Jaws


The only benefit I know of having Java on your machine is to
run programmes
written in the Java cross-platform programming language.
Hope that helps. Chris Hallsworth BrailleNote mPower user
- Original Message - 
From: Larry Stansifer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 1:24 PM
Subject: [Blind-Computing] java and Jaws


 Hi folks,

 What are the features and benefits of having Java
installed on my
 machine?

 I read through the Jaws and Java blurb in the popular
applications
 section of Jaws, searched both blind computing and
jaws-users and
 couldn't find much. I am using Jaws 8.current, IE-7 and
windows-XP
 home.

 Thanks for any assistance you can provide.

 Regards

 Larry Stansifer

 Thou art rewarded for thy results not for thine efforts.

 The Rogue Warrior

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Re: [Blind-Computing] java and Jaws

2007-09-13 Thread Chris Hallsworth
No. Any website that requires Java will run the Java applett, providing the 
Java software is installed in the first place. Hope that helps.
Chris Hallsworth
BrailleNote mPower user
- Original Message - 
From: Larry Stansifer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 2:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] java and Jaws



 Is there any way to tell if a web site employs Java?
 What is the downside if any to having it installed?
 Is this something that I need to load and unload each time I
 visit a web site?

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Chris Hallsworth
 Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 6:37 AM
 To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] java and Jaws


 The only benefit I know of having Java on your machine is to
 run programmes
 written in the Java cross-platform programming language.
 Hope that helps. Chris Hallsworth BrailleNote mPower user
 - Original Message - 
 From: Larry Stansifer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 1:24 PM
 Subject: [Blind-Computing] java and Jaws


 Hi folks,

 What are the features and benefits of having Java
 installed on my
 machine?

 I read through the Jaws and Java blurb in the popular
 applications
 section of Jaws, searched both blind computing and
 jaws-users and
 couldn't find much. I am using Jaws 8.current, IE-7 and
 windows-XP
 home.

 Thanks for any assistance you can provide.

 Regards

 Larry Stansifer

 Thou art rewarded for thy results not for thine efforts.

 The Rogue Warrior

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Re: [Blind-Computing] MSN Messenger sounds are gone

2007-09-13 Thread Chris Feist
Hi.  I'll check that out, but I'd really like to continue to use the sound
scheme that came with MSN Messenger 7.5.  I can't find those sounds anywhere
on my computer now that I was forced to upgrade to Windows Live messenger.
I hope I didn't lose those sounds forever. 

Chris Feist - The one and only!

-Original Message-
On Behalf Of Sarah

Hello. Try the andre louis sound skeem at www.andrelouis.com. i like that
sound  skeem.

SAG


- Original Message -
From: Chris Feist [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Hi all.  I just turned on my computer, and it wouldn't let me log on with
MSN Messenger.  It insisted that I install Windows Live Messenger.  So, I
did.  But now I find I don't like the sounds, such as when a message comes
in.  It's too loud and abrupt.  I'd prefer to put back the sounds that I had
with the previous version of MSN, but I can't find them.  did they get
deleted once I installed Windows Live Messenger?  If so, is there a way I
can get them again so I can put them in?  I hate change.  Thanks.

Chris Feist - The one and only!


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Re: [Blind-Computing] java and Jaws

2007-09-13 Thread Mich
hi all. all this talk about java makes me want to know where do you download 
this?since i have run across some web pages that use it and i don't think 
that i have it instald but i am not shure. Many Thanks. from Mich Verrier.
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Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 12:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] java and Jaws


 Hi Larry,
 No real downside to having it installed,
 and when it is necessary, it will be used by the application requiring it.
 No user interaction required, unless you choose to update it.
 HTH,
 Richard Justice
 www.blind-computing.com
 - Original Message - 
 From: Larry Stansifer
 To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 9:20 AM
 Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] java and Jaws



 Is there any way to tell if a web site employs Java?
 What is the downside if any to having it installed?
 Is this something that I need to load and unload each time I
 visit a web site?

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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Chris Hallsworth
 Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 6:37 AM
 To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] java and Jaws


 The only benefit I know of having Java on your machine is to
 run programmes
 written in the Java cross-platform programming language.
 Hope that helps. Chris Hallsworth BrailleNote mPower user
 - Original Message - 
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 To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 1:24 PM
 Subject: [Blind-Computing] java and Jaws


 Hi folks,

 What are the features and benefits of having Java
 installed on my
 machine?

 I read through the Jaws and Java blurb in the popular
 applications
 section of Jaws, searched both blind computing and
 jaws-users and
 couldn't find much. I am using Jaws 8.current, IE-7 and
 windows-XP
 home.

 Thanks for any assistance you can provide.

 Regards

 Larry Stansifer

 Thou art rewarded for thy results not for thine efforts.

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Re: [Blind-Computing] strainge problum in OE

2007-09-13 Thread Mich
many thanks rick yes i have dun this and it hasn't happend again. many 
thanks. from Mich Verrier.
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Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 12:12 PM
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 Hi Mich,
 When you first encounter a problem like this, the simplest thing to do, is 
 to reboot the machine.
 HTH,
 Richard Justice
 www.blind-computing.com
 - Original Message - 
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 To: blind-computing @jaws-users.com
 Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 9:35 AM
 Subject: [Blind-Computing] strainge problum in OE


 hi all. I am just wondering. Just now as I was going through my E Males in 
 OE it said the following
 when i oapind up a message [blindmoviebuff] names of recent heroes un... 
 minimize symbol maximize
 symbol
 File Edit View Tools Message Help
 Reply Reply All Forward Print Delete Previous
 From: Sender Unspecified
 Date: Thursday, September 13, 2007 9:00 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [blindmoviebuff] names of recent heroes unmasked eepisodes d
 Outlook Express encountered an
 unexpected problem while displaying this
 message. Check your computer for low
 memory or low disk space and try again.
 Outlook Express n Now this doesn't happen on every message but I am just 
 wondering what this could
 meen? and weather it is something that I need to be worried about? Many 
 Thanks. from Mich Verrier.
 PS I did have my pc on all night wile i was converting some stuff so do 
 you think that might have
 something to do with this? from Mich Verrier from New Liskeard Ontario 
 Canada.
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[Blind-Computing] a fast scanner

2007-09-13 Thread Tony Hernandez
Hello everyone.

I need a fast scanner that will allow me to scan my text books with Open Book 
from FS.  I'm very busy, and time is of the essence.  Can those of you with 
experience in this share which scanners you have used or would recommend for 
speed and accuracy?  I need something big enough to scan text books the size of 
an anatomy and physiology text.  I looked on the FS site, and the fastest one I 
found was the cannon DR50-20, but there was no information on the cannon site 
about it.  Thanks for any info.

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Re: [Blind-Computing] a fast scanner

2007-09-13 Thread Tony Hernandez
Hi Annette.

Thank you for this information.  I look forward to hearing about this 
scanner.  I had an epson and can't remember the model number.  I used it 
with Windows 2000 years ago, and it worked ok, but it slowed down 
unacceptably when I switched to XP.  It is surprisingly difficult to find a 
fast scanner that doesn't also cost way too much.

I found a blog on the web about ABBYY and wondered if it would serve me just 
as well as open book. Do you know if it's any faster or slower, or whether 
the OCR is comparable to the ones included in open book?

Tony Hernandez
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To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 7:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] a fast scanner


Hi Tony,

I believe the Cannon 5020 is a high speed duplex scanner that I was using in
my previous job.  It is no longer made and has been replaced with the 5070
or 5080.  These are very fast scanners with very high price tags.  If my
memory serves me correctly, they run around $4000 to $5000.  These are not
bed scanners, thus you will need to have the binding cut off of your text
books before you can scan them.  Usually your campus copy center, or local
Kinko's can do this for you.  Some Kinko's have been known to cut the
binding off of the book(s) as long as you agree to return to them to have a
new comb or spiral binding put on the book by them once you are done
scanning the book.

There is another scanner you might want to take a look at.  I will need to
provide you with the model number tomorrow.  We just purchased this scanner
for an employee at my current job.  I do not know if this scanner will work
with OpenBook, but the user will be using it with Abby Fine Reader and JAWS
to scan large quantities of hardcopy material.  The scanner is a flat bed
scanner with a sheet feeder that is capable of performing duplex scanning,
at a rate of 25 single-sided pages per minute, or 50 pages per minute when
the pages are double-sided because it is scanning both sides at the same
time.

HTH
Annette


-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Hernandez
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 5:31 PM
To: Blind Computing List
Subject: *SPAM* [Blind-Computing] a fast scanner

Hello everyone.

I need a fast scanner that will allow me to scan my text books with Open
Book from FS.  I'm very busy, and time is of the essence.  Can those of you
with experience in this share which scanners you have used or would
recommend for speed and accuracy?  I need something big enough to scan text
books the size of an anatomy and physiology text.  I looked on the FS site,
and the fastest one I found was the cannon DR50-20, but there was no
information on the cannon site about it.  Thanks for any info.

Tony Hernandez
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[Blind-Computing] Message rule filter

2007-09-13 Thread Jason
What is the exact email address I should add to Outlook Express 6 so that all 
Blind Computing mail can to to the blind computing
folder in my inbox?
I have the message rule created, but it's not working out right.
BTW, the same thing is happening with the jaws users mailing list, too.


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Re: [Blind-Computing] Message rule filter

2007-09-13 Thread Ricque
Hi Jason,
Go to the tips and tricks page at:
www.jaws-users.com
and look under the Outlook Express heading.
HTH,
Richard Justice
www.blind-computing.com
- Original Message - 
From: Jason
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 8:00 PM
Subject: [Blind-Computing] Message rule filter


What is the exact email address I should add to Outlook Express 6 so that all 
Blind Computing mail 
can to to the blind computing
folder in my inbox?
I have the message rule created, but it's not working out right.
BTW, the same thing is happening with the jaws users mailing list, too.


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Re: [Blind-Computing] a fast scanner

2007-09-13 Thread Annette Carr
Hi Tony,

The employee who requested Abby Fine Reader and this scanner says that Abby
Fine does a better job then OpenBook, but I have not used it personally, and
since the printer just arrived today, I'm yet to see it work.  

I can tell you now that high speed scanning adds additional factors that can
cause a poor scan.  Once you have the binding cut off of your books, you
have to be sure you remove all of the remaining glue from the pages of the
book.  If this is left on, it will gunk up your scanner resulting in
jamming, or smudges on the lens which will effect the quality of the final
product.  Pages can sometimes stick together due to high humidity levels, or
excessive static when the humidity is low.  Sometimes the pages stick
together just because they want to.  

I forgot to tell you that the scanner that I'm going to give you the info on
tomorrow, costs around $1200 to $1500.  

Have you talked to the Office of Disability Services to have them cover the
cost of you having your books scanned?  

Didn't I already provide you with a link to a company who scans textbooks
for a fee?  

Where are you going to school?  Many colleges and universities are now
joining together to scan books for their students.

Annette


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Hernandez
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 8:05 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] a fast scanner

Hi Annette.

Thank you for this information.  I look forward to hearing about this
scanner.  I had an epson and can't remember the model number.  I used it
with Windows 2000 years ago, and it worked ok, but it slowed down
unacceptably when I switched to XP.  It is surprisingly difficult to find a
fast scanner that doesn't also cost way too much.

I found a blog on the web about ABBYY and wondered if it would serve me just
as well as open book. Do you know if it's any faster or slower, or whether
the OCR is comparable to the ones included in open book?

Tony Hernandez
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www.tonyspeaks.com
and search down the page for the heading Paltalk and JAWS for Windows.

- Original Message -
From: Annette Carr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 7:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] a fast scanner


Hi Tony,

I believe the Cannon 5020 is a high speed duplex scanner that I was using in
my previous job.  It is no longer made and has been replaced with the 5070
or 5080.  These are very fast scanners with very high price tags.  If my
memory serves me correctly, they run around $4000 to $5000.  These are not
bed scanners, thus you will need to have the binding cut off of your text
books before you can scan them.  Usually your campus copy center, or local
Kinko's can do this for you.  Some Kinko's have been known to cut the
binding off of the book(s) as long as you agree to return to them to have a
new comb or spiral binding put on the book by them once you are done
scanning the book.

There is another scanner you might want to take a look at.  I will need to
provide you with the model number tomorrow.  We just purchased this scanner
for an employee at my current job.  I do not know if this scanner will work
with OpenBook, but the user will be using it with Abby Fine Reader and JAWS
to scan large quantities of hardcopy material.  The scanner is a flat bed
scanner with a sheet feeder that is capable of performing duplex scanning,
at a rate of 25 single-sided pages per minute, or 50 pages per minute when
the pages are double-sided because it is scanning both sides at the same
time.

HTH
Annette


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Hernandez
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 5:31 PM
To: Blind Computing List
Subject: *SPAM* [Blind-Computing] a fast scanner

Hello everyone.

I need a fast scanner that will allow me to scan my text books with Open
Book from FS.  I'm very busy, and time is of the essence.  Can those of you
with experience in this share which scanners you have used or would
recommend for speed and accuracy?  I need something big enough to scan text
books the size of an anatomy and physiology text.  I looked on the FS site,
and the fastest one I found was the cannon DR50-20, but there was no
information on the cannon site about it.  Thanks for any info.

Tony Hernandez
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Re: [Blind-Computing] Message rule filter

2007-09-13 Thread David Ferrin
There is also an audio tutorial on the jaws users home page that covers this 
very subject. I know for a fact that it has helped several people out over 
the year and a half it's been up there.
David Ferrin
- Original Message - 
From: Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 8:00 PM
Subject: [Blind-Computing] Message rule filter


What is the exact email address I should add to Outlook Express 6 so that 
all Blind Computing mail can to to the blind computing
folder in my inbox?
I have the message rule created, but it's not working out right.
BTW, the same thing is happening with the jaws users mailing list, too.


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Re: [Blind-Computing] Jaws and PDF

2007-09-13 Thread Joseph Lee
Hi there,
Press CTRL plus JAWS Key plus v to see what version of Adobe you 
have.
Cheers,
Joseph

 - Original Message -
From: Melvin Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Date sent: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 20:09:30 -0400
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Jaws and PDF

Where would I find out what version of Adobe that I have?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of 
Joseph Lee
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 11:17 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Jaws and PDF


Hi there,
You might try to save it in text format (go to File menu then
choose Save as Text).
Cheers,
Joseph P.S.  What version of Adobe Reader are you using?

 - Original Message -
From: Melvin Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Blind Computing blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Date sent: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:44:56 -0400
Subject: [Blind-Computing] Jaws and PDF

Several of my school books are in PDF and Jaws is not reading
them.  What do
I need to do to get Jaws to read PDF?  Any help is appreciated.



Mel  Teddy

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Re: [Blind-Computing] a fast scanner

2007-09-13 Thread Tony Hernandez
Hi Annette.

It's very kind of you to respond to my queries, so thank you.  Do you know 
of a scanner that's flat-bed, not necessarily duplex?  I've tried to go 
through the FS site's list of supported scanners, but it's too hard to tell 
which scanners are out of date and not made anymore and which ones are too 
expensive.  I didn't find the price of the DR-5020 anywhere on the cannon 
web site or on other sites.  I definitely prefer to try to find out the 
experiences of users with the latest scanners, not because I just have to 
have a brand new scanner, but because the more recent scanners are easier to 
find.

Unfortunately, Disability services in my state take far too long to buy 
equipment for the blind, and I'm already in school.  I'm enrolled in a 
distance learning medical transcription program through Penn Foster 
University.  By the time the state would get through the required red tape, 
I would be done with my courses.  I live in a rural area where the nearest 
kinko's is about fifty miles away, so scanning the books myself is 
definitely the best way to go about this.  I really appreciate that you 
responded because It brought abby fine reader to my attention.  Thanks 
again.

Tony Hernandez
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- Original Message - 
From: Annette Carr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] a fast scanner


Hi Tony,

The employee who requested Abby Fine Reader and this scanner says that Abby
Fine does a better job then OpenBook, but I have not used it personally, and
since the printer just arrived today, I'm yet to see it work.

I can tell you now that high speed scanning adds additional factors that can
cause a poor scan.  Once you have the binding cut off of your books, you
have to be sure you remove all of the remaining glue from the pages of the
book.  If this is left on, it will gunk up your scanner resulting in
jamming, or smudges on the lens which will effect the quality of the final
product.  Pages can sometimes stick together due to high humidity levels, or
excessive static when the humidity is low.  Sometimes the pages stick
together just because they want to.

I forgot to tell you that the scanner that I'm going to give you the info on
tomorrow, costs around $1200 to $1500.

Have you talked to the Office of Disability Services to have them cover the
cost of you having your books scanned?

Didn't I already provide you with a link to a company who scans textbooks
for a fee?

Where are you going to school?  Many colleges and universities are now
joining together to scan books for their students.

Annette


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Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 8:05 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] a fast scanner

Hi Annette.

Thank you for this information.  I look forward to hearing about this
scanner.  I had an epson and can't remember the model number.  I used it
with Windows 2000 years ago, and it worked ok, but it slowed down
unacceptably when I switched to XP.  It is surprisingly difficult to find a
fast scanner that doesn't also cost way too much.

I found a blog on the web about ABBYY and wondered if it would serve me just
as well as open book. Do you know if it's any faster or slower, or whether
the OCR is comparable to the ones included in open book?

Tony Hernandez
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- Original Message -
From: Annette Carr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 7:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] a fast scanner


Hi Tony,

I believe the Cannon 5020 is a high speed duplex scanner that I was using in
my previous job.  It is no longer made and has been replaced with the 5070
or 5080.  These are very fast scanners with very high price tags.  If my
memory serves me correctly, they run around $4000 to $5000.  These are not
bed scanners, thus you will need to have the binding cut off of your text
books before you can scan them.  Usually your campus copy center, or local
Kinko's can do this for you.  Some Kinko's have been known to cut the
binding off of the book(s) as long as you agree to return to them to have a
new comb or spiral binding put on the book by them once you are done
scanning the book.

There is another scanner you might want to take a look at.  I will need to
provide you with the model number tomorrow.  We just purchased this scanner
for an employee at my current job.  I do not know if this scanner will work
with OpenBook, but the user will be using it with Abby Fine Reader and JAWS
to scan large quantities of hardcopy material.  The scanner is a flat bed
scanner with a