Re: [Blind-Computing] question about a problem i had and is now fixt

2007-12-12 Thread Jacob Kruger
FWIW, although my KNFB Reader can't read screens since it's apparently 
something to do with light etc., the woman who sort of got me back onto 
computers last year, in fact uses a small hand-held thing that renders 
whatevers under it's surface into braille on her palm, and she does in fact 
sometimes use it to check out stuff on her computer screen.

Not sure what it is/is called, but, like I said, she does in fact use it to 
'check out' stuff on the screen that she's not sure of.

Just know she did in fact say it was a relatively expensive thing, but might 
still sometimes be worth it - will maybe try get hold of her and find out 
what it is.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...Fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'

- Original Message - 
From: Alan  Terrie Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 2:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] question about a problem i had and is now 
fixt


 That is a great question and one I've been asking to many folks for a long
 time.  I've never heard of a solution.  It would seem to me someone could
 develop some type of USB plug in unit to read screens prior to an OS 
 loading
 etc

 Al

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mich
 Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 3:29 PM
 To: blind-computing @jaws-users.com
 Subject: [Blind-Computing] question about a problum i had and is now
 fixt


 hello all. Earlier today my pc ended up going in to safe moad. I called a
 sighted person to come over from the computer store to tell me what is on
 the screen. they said that it was showing a blue screen and that there 
 were
 error messages on the screen about a corrupted file. He did a scan disk 
 and
 then loaded windows from the windows cd. Things are working fine but my
 question is as some one who is blind could I fix this problem with out
 sighted assistance if it happens again? and how would you prevent this
 problem from happening again? At the time I had no windows music or jaws 
 or
 speech output of any kind. Many Thanks for your insights on this and take
 care. from Mich Verrier from New Liskeard Ontario Canada.
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Re: [Blind-Computing] question about a problem i had and is now fixt

2007-12-12 Thread Annette
I'm wondering if it is an Opticon.  But I did not know they could read text
from a screen 

Annette

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 2:46 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] question about a problem i had and is now
fixt

FWIW, although my KNFB Reader can't read screens since it's apparently
something to do with light etc., the woman who sort of got me back onto
computers last year, in fact uses a small hand-held thing that renders
whatevers under it's surface into braille on her palm, and she does in fact
sometimes use it to check out stuff on her computer screen.

Not sure what it is/is called, but, like I said, she does in fact use it to
'check out' stuff on the screen that she's not sure of.

Just know she did in fact say it was a relatively expensive thing, but might
still sometimes be worth it - will maybe try get hold of her and find out
what it is.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...Fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'

- Original Message -
From: Alan  Terrie Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 2:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] question about a problem i had and is now
fixt


 That is a great question and one I've been asking to many folks for a 
 long time.  I've never heard of a solution.  It would seem to me 
 someone could develop some type of USB plug in unit to read screens 
 prior to an OS loading etc

 Al

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mich
 Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 3:29 PM
 To: blind-computing @jaws-users.com
 Subject: [Blind-Computing] question about a problum i had and is now 
 fixt


 hello all. Earlier today my pc ended up going in to safe moad. I 
 called a sighted person to come over from the computer store to tell 
 me what is on the screen. they said that it was showing a blue screen 
 and that there were error messages on the screen about a corrupted 
 file. He did a scan disk and then loaded windows from the windows cd. 
 Things are working fine but my question is as some one who is blind 
 could I fix this problem with out sighted assistance if it happens 
 again? and how would you prevent this problem from happening again? At 
 the time I had no windows music or jaws or speech output of any kind. 
 Many Thanks for your insights on this and take care. from Mich Verrier 
 from New Liskeard Ontario Canada.
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Re: [Blind-Computing] question about a problem i had and is now fixt

2007-12-12 Thread George Marshall
TSI sold a special lens that could be used to read the computer screen. I am 
an old computer programmer and used such a lens before talking computers.
George R. Marshall
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- Original Message - 
From: Annette [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 4:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] question about a problem i had and is now 
fixt


 I'm wondering if it is an Opticon.  But I did not know they could read 
 text
 from a screen

 Annette

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger
 Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 2:46 AM
 To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] question about a problem i had and is now
 fixt

 FWIW, although my KNFB Reader can't read screens since it's apparently
 something to do with light etc., the woman who sort of got me back onto
 computers last year, in fact uses a small hand-held thing that renders
 whatevers under it's surface into braille on her palm, and she does in 
 fact
 sometimes use it to check out stuff on her computer screen.

 Not sure what it is/is called, but, like I said, she does in fact use it 
 to
 'check out' stuff on the screen that she's not sure of.

 Just know she did in fact say it was a relatively expensive thing, but 
 might
 still sometimes be worth it - will maybe try get hold of her and find out
 what it is.

 Stay well

 Jacob Kruger
 Blind Biker
 Skype: BlindZA
 '...Fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'

 - Original Message -
 From: Alan  Terrie Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 2:08 AM
 Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] question about a problem i had and is now
 fixt


 That is a great question and one I've been asking to many folks for a
 long time.  I've never heard of a solution.  It would seem to me
 someone could develop some type of USB plug in unit to read screens
 prior to an OS loading etc

 Al

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mich
 Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 3:29 PM
 To: blind-computing @jaws-users.com
 Subject: [Blind-Computing] question about a problum i had and is now
 fixt


 hello all. Earlier today my pc ended up going in to safe moad. I
 called a sighted person to come over from the computer store to tell
 me what is on the screen. they said that it was showing a blue screen
 and that there were error messages on the screen about a corrupted
 file. He did a scan disk and then loaded windows from the windows cd.
 Things are working fine but my question is as some one who is blind
 could I fix this problem with out sighted assistance if it happens
 again? and how would you prevent this problem from happening again? At
 the time I had no windows music or jaws or speech output of any kind.
 Many Thanks for your insights on this and take care. from Mich Verrier
 from New Liskeard Ontario Canada.
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[Blind-Computing] Google Books Apology

2007-12-12 Thread David Griffith
To blind computing list.
Apologies for cross posting.
This was a mistake and not intentional.

Regards

David Griffith   

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Sent: Wednesday, 12 December 2007 23:33
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Google Books

Hi David,
This is a very good post, thank you!
In the future, please do not cross-post your messages.
Thank you,
Richard Justice-list moderator
www.jaws-users.com
Richard Justice-website ownner
www.blind-computing.com
- Original Message -
From: David Griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 6:22 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Google Books


 Dear List

 I have just read an article on an attempt to make Google Books accessible 
 to
 Jaws. Allegedly there is a hidden link available to Jaws users which 
 will
 enable them to access an OCR text version of the images of pages normally
 inaccessible to us.

 This OCR link is apparently only available when you put Google Books into
 full view mode. There is a link for this which I found by using Control F
 and searching for full. This link did not appear in Links list or as a
 button but worked when I pressed enter on it.

 However I could not find a hidden OCR link. Has anybody else been able to
 find this and make it work?

 The article I was reading was at


http://blind-geek-zone.blogspot.com/2007/07/first-step-in-adding-accessibili
 ty-to.html


 Regards

 David Griffith



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Re: [Blind-Computing] Google Books

2007-12-12 Thread David Griffith
Hello 

The link in my post should give some more information.
Basically Google Books is a project by Google to digitise books and make
them freely available on the web. Some books only allow partial viewing.
The problem in the pasts is that the pages are image scans rather than OCR
scanned. However screen reader users are supposed to be able to get at the
OCR version now.  However I have  not managed this yet.

If you type Google Books into the Google search field a link to the service
should come up.

Regards

David Griffith

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Sent: Thursday, 13 December 2007 00:55
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Google Books

Hello David,
What is Google Books?
Thanks,
Steve

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Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 5:23 PM
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Subject: [Blind-Computing] Google Books

Dear List 

I have just read an article on an attempt to make Google Books accessible to
Jaws. Allegedly there is a hidden link available to Jaws users which will
enable them to access an OCR text version of the images of pages normally
inaccessible to us.

This OCR link is apparently only available when you put Google Books into
full view mode. There is a link for this which I found by using Control F
and searching for full. This link did not appear in Links list or as a
button but worked when I pressed enter on it.

However I could not find a hidden OCR link. Has anybody else been able to
find this and make it work?

The article I was reading was at

http://blind-geek-zone.blogspot.com/2007/07/first-step-in-adding-accessibili
ty-to.html


Regards

David Griffith



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[Blind-Computing] Is there a search function in outlook?

2007-12-12 Thread John Simpson
I'm grateful for this list, but don't have braille and have to wade through
pages of greater to find the dashes in these emails.  I like this list,
and wonder if There's any way to quickly navigate to the next number.
Ctrl+f won't do it.  Any suggestions?  
John Simpson 



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Re: [Blind-Computing] Google Books Apology

2007-12-12 Thread Moderator
Thanks David
Richard Justice-list moderator
Richard Justice-website ownner
www.blind-computing.com
- Original Message - 
From: David Griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 8:21 PM
Subject: [Blind-Computing] Google Books Apology


 To blind computing list.
 Apologies for cross posting.
 This was a mistake and not intentional.

 Regards

 David Griffith

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Moderator
 Sent: Wednesday, 12 December 2007 23:33
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Google Books

 Hi David,
 This is a very good post, thank you!
 In the future, please do not cross-post your messages.
 Thank you,
 Richard Justice-list moderator
 www.jaws-users.com
 Richard Justice-website ownner
 www.blind-computing.com
 - Original Message -
 From: David Griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 6:22 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Google Books


 Dear List

 I have just read an article on an attempt to make Google Books accessible
 to
 Jaws. Allegedly there is a hidden link available to Jaws users which
 will
 enable them to access an OCR text version of the images of pages normally
 inaccessible to us.

 This OCR link is apparently only available when you put Google Books into
 full view mode. There is a link for this which I found by using Control F
 and searching for full. This link did not appear in Links list or as a
 button but worked when I pressed enter on it.

 However I could not find a hidden OCR link. Has anybody else been able to
 find this and make it work?

 The article I was reading was at


 http://blind-geek-zone.blogspot.com/2007/07/first-step-in-adding-accessibili
 ty-to.html


 Regards

 David Griffith



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Re: [Blind-Computing] confusion about CD types

2007-12-12 Thread Joseph Lee
Hi there,
A CD-R is a type of compact disc that can be written - that is, things like 
audio and data can be copied to. This kind of disc cannot be erased.
Cheers,
Joseph
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 What exactly is a CDR?
 Linda

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