Re: [Blind-Computing] Window 7
Chris Hallsworth could go into great detail regarding exactly what normally will not work when attempting to use JAWS in Vista or Windows 7 guests within VMware. I believe it is the Freedom Scientific mirror display driver that crashes in a VMware Virtual Machine. Unfortunately, he is not wanted on this list anymore. To obtain his help in this area, I suggest joining the Blind Virtual Machines mailing list. b-v-m-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Don Marang There is just so much stuff in the world that, to me, is devoid of any real substance, value, and content that I just try to make sure that I am working on things that matter. Dean Kamen -- From: "Welson" Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 10:08 PM To: ; Subject: [Blind-Computing] Window 7 hello listers, I'm running window 7 on VMware player, a virtualization software. After i setup the operating system, it works fine but once i install Jaws, a save mode message was shown and prompt you to restore the system. After restored, window works fine again but jaws didn't installed. I tried to install different version of jaws but the result still the same. In order to test whether is the window or jaws problem, i have installed NVDA. At this time, window works fine and no problem occured. So, what's are the problem? any sollutions, ideas or suggestions? Your help will very appreciated. Thanks For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[Blind-Computing] realtime antivirus & antispyware protection
Mike, u wrote: Hi Jackie; I am going to take this topic back to one from earlier today. There was a discussion about whether or not to run Microsoft Security Essentials & Super Anti Spyware in Real Time mode at the same time. In your professional opinion, if you were running both of these programs how would you run the 2? Meaning, would you run 1 in Real Time & not the other or, run both in Real Time? Mike, much depends on what the 2 programs do. Let me give a bit of background, & then perhaps, by way of that, address your question. In the not so very distant past, spyware & viruses were pretty much distinct entities, & the programs designed to protect the computer from each did quite different things. Antivirus programs tended to look for what's called "file signatures", e.g., certain strings in files that were suggestive of a virus, while antispyware programs tended to monitor things like registry changes, where the browser was being taken to, etc. That's fairly oversimplified, but the crux was that 1 antivirus & 1 antispyware program could generally run together in realtime w/o conflict. Malware has, unfortunately, become much more sophisticated. Viruses drop trojans which create a backdoor into your computer & allow all kinds of information to be passed to some1, e.g., spyware. Thus, the distinction between viruses & spyware--& other types of malware, for that matter--have blurred considerably over the past few years. The result is that antivirus programs have evolved to become antivirus/antispyware programs, trying to become, as it were, all protection for all malware, all things to all people, etc. The answer to your question is that it really depends on what the programs do. If the antivirus program confines itself to looking for file signatures, etc., while the antispyware program monitors registry changes & browser redirects, then it's probably safe. If, on the other hand, the 2 programs monitor for similar things, then conflict can & does result. The problem further arises when both try to quarantine something at the same time, obviously, & it is for this reason that malware experts suggest running only 1 realtime security suite type program, e.g., antivirus/antispyware program, at any given time. What I personally do is to run my antivirus/antispyware program (Avast) in realtime. Then I scan w/Superantispyware or MalwareBytes weekly or so, just to get rid of tracking cookies & other annoying nasties that may have popped up. BTW, 1 thing that can really help keep the bugs in check is to simply delete your temporary internet files often--lots & lots of crap-ola gets in there. So what I personally would do would be to run Microsoft Security Essentials in realtime, & let SAS be an on-demand scanner. I know some listers have run both w/o difficulty, but I can't help wondering what would happen if both try to quarantine the same threat--neither 1 might win & your protection may well be compromised. I remember getting this as a first exercise of my malware removal training, & this is pretty much how I answered it then, too, & passed, so hopefully it'll suffice. I hope I've made myself sufficiently clear, & invite further queries if I haven't. Blessings for a wonderful holiday season. On 12/27/10, Mike & Barbara In Arcadia wrote: > Hi Jackie; > > I am going to take this topic back to one from earlier today. There was a > discussion about whether or not to run Microsoft Security Essentials & Super > Anti Spyware in Real Time mode at the same time. In your professional > opinion, if you were running both of these programs how would you run the 2? > Meaning, would you run 1 in Real Time & not the other or, run both in Real > Time? Personally I am not a heavy user of the Internet except for emailing > and would like to hear a professional opinion on what the pros & cons might > be. I am not trying to discredit any of the ideas/opinions of others that > contributed to this topic earlier but, as a amateur computer user and having > learned most of what I've learned via trial & error, & lists' like this, I > would like to hear from someone who deals with this type of issue on a > professional basis. All advice/information will be greatly appreciated. > Thanks much. Take care. > Mike > > - Original Message - > From: Jackie McBride > To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 7:56 PM > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] removing a virus > > > Andre, if I were working in the environment your nephew is working in, > I'd do it that way as well. But u & I both know that most residential > & soho customers do not walk around w/recent images of their OS or > even backups of their data on a thumb or even an external drive. & > it's not possible for us to have clean installation discs of all > windows versions, never mind trying to use Magic Jellybean or some > such to retrieve the key, cuz half the folks lost their restore discs. > & then there
Re: [Blind-Computing] removing a virus
Hi Jackie; I am going to take this topic back to one from earlier today. There was a discussion about whether or not to run Microsoft Security Essentials & Super Anti Spyware in Real Time mode at the same time. In your professional opinion, if you were running both of these programs how would you run the 2? Meaning, would you run 1 in Real Time & not the other or, run both in Real Time? Personally I am not a heavy user of the Internet except for emailing and would like to hear a professional opinion on what the pros & cons might be. I am not trying to discredit any of the ideas/opinions of others that contributed to this topic earlier but, as a amateur computer user and having learned most of what I've learned via trial & error, & lists' like this, I would like to hear from someone who deals with this type of issue on a professional basis. All advice/information will be greatly appreciated. Thanks much. Take care. Mike - Original Message - From: Jackie McBride To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 7:56 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] removing a virus Andre, if I were working in the environment your nephew is working in, I'd do it that way as well. But u & I both know that most residential & soho customers do not walk around w/recent images of their OS or even backups of their data on a thumb or even an external drive. & it's not possible for us to have clean installation discs of all windows versions, never mind trying to use Magic Jellybean or some such to retrieve the key, cuz half the folks lost their restore discs. & then there's data to back up, etc. Then there's always the rare but interesting forensics issues of some1 trying to sabotage a company & has a virus set to reformat the particular hard drive to try to destroy evidence or bring down a network when certain actions are performed. The best thing to do in cases like this is just to dismount the drive. The way u suggest is easiest but not always practical. On 12/27/10, Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press wrote: > Hi Andre, > I suspect that Jackie may work for multiple clients who have their > individual networks and configurations. My brother-in-law does the > same kind of work that I think Jackie does, and he also cleans up > these things the way she does. He says it is because each of the > networks is different and he finds it faster. He also said that > everyone has their preferred way of doing things, and if he were > working on his own network, he might very well do it your way if he > didn't have an alternative. > > Recently Andre Williams wrote: >>Interesting. My nephew works for our city's power company and he says they >>don't bother with any of those procedures as they take too long. He says >> his >>tools consist of a bag full of operating system images and a thumb drive >>with hundreds of serial keys including a password override for terminated >>employees that "can't" remember their passwords. He said he carries a very >>durable but very slow 10-hour battery life laptop when he's out on the >>streets, but when it comes to monitoring computers at work he uses a laptop >>that breaks into 2 parts and becomes a type of mobile unit. >>Andre >> >>- Original Message - >>From: "Jackie McBride" >>To: >>Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 7:02 PM >>Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] removing a virus >> >> >>Andre, I *routinely* fix these problems because that is what I do for >>a living. As I said, I don't connect my computer that I use to repair >>others' machines to a network & therefore the integrity of that >>network is not in question. I'm trained both in computer forensics as >>well as in malware removal. While I agree that there are times when >>reformatting the operating system is necessary, it often is not. It >>depends on the type of malware infection, how good the tools one has >>for doing such removal, the operator's proficiency w/those tools, & a >>variety of other factors. >> >>On 12/27/10, Andre Williams wrote: >> > While it might appear all is fine it might not be. You are the best >> > judge >> > of >> > the integrity of your network. I would be concerned about "routinely" >> > having >> > to fix these problems. I'll act on the advice of security experts and do >> > my >> > best to insure any virus whether seemingly harmless to very destructive >> > is >> > not an unknown factor in any of the often strange quirks in Windows >> > world. >> > After an infection a reformat or image recovery gives me this peace of >> > mind. >> > Andre >> > - Original Message - >> > From: "Jackie McBride" >> > To: >> > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 6:16 PM >> > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] removing a virus >> > >> > >> > I routinely fix these sorts of problems by taking the drive out of the >> > comput
Re: [Blind-Computing] removing a virus
Andre, if I were working in the environment your nephew is working in, I'd do it that way as well. But u & I both know that most residential & soho customers do not walk around w/recent images of their OS or even backups of their data on a thumb or even an external drive. & it's not possible for us to have clean installation discs of all windows versions, never mind trying to use Magic Jellybean or some such to retrieve the key, cuz half the folks lost their restore discs. & then there's data to back up, etc. Then there's always the rare but interesting forensics issues of some1 trying to sabotage a company & has a virus set to reformat the particular hard drive to try to destroy evidence or bring down a network when certain actions are performed. The best thing to do in cases like this is just to dismount the drive. The way u suggest is easiest but not always practical. On 12/27/10, Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press wrote: > Hi Andre, > I suspect that Jackie may work for multiple clients who have their > individual networks and configurations. My brother-in-law does the > same kind of work that I think Jackie does, and he also cleans up > these things the way she does. He says it is because each of the > networks is different and he finds it faster. He also said that > everyone has their preferred way of doing things, and if he were > working on his own network, he might very well do it your way if he > didn't have an alternative. > > Recently Andre Williams wrote: >>Interesting. My nephew works for our city's power company and he says they >>don't bother with any of those procedures as they take too long. He says >> his >>tools consist of a bag full of operating system images and a thumb drive >>with hundreds of serial keys including a password override for terminated >>employees that "can't" remember their passwords. He said he carries a very >>durable but very slow 10-hour battery life laptop when he's out on the >>streets, but when it comes to monitoring computers at work he uses a laptop >>that breaks into 2 parts and becomes a type of mobile unit. >>Andre >> >>- Original Message - >>From: "Jackie McBride" >>To: >>Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 7:02 PM >>Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] removing a virus >> >> >>Andre, I *routinely* fix these problems because that is what I do for >>a living. As I said, I don't connect my computer that I use to repair >>others' machines to a network & therefore the integrity of that >>network is not in question. I'm trained both in computer forensics as >>well as in malware removal. While I agree that there are times when >>reformatting the operating system is necessary, it often is not. It >>depends on the type of malware infection, how good the tools one has >>for doing such removal, the operator's proficiency w/those tools, & a >>variety of other factors. >> >>On 12/27/10, Andre Williams wrote: >> > While it might appear all is fine it might not be. You are the best >> > judge >> > of >> > the integrity of your network. I would be concerned about "routinely" >> > having >> > to fix these problems. I'll act on the advice of security experts and do >> > my >> > best to insure any virus whether seemingly harmless to very destructive >> > is >> > not an unknown factor in any of the often strange quirks in Windows >> > world. >> > After an infection a reformat or image recovery gives me this peace of >> > mind. >> > Andre >> > - Original Message - >> > From: "Jackie McBride" >> > To: >> > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 6:16 PM >> > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] removing a virus >> > >> > >> > I routinely fix these sorts of problems by taking the drive out of the >> > computer, hooking it up to an external device, & then putting it on >> > another computer & running malware scans. I very very seldom have to >> > reformat an OS. >> > >> > Sometimes I do it in Linux, sometimes in Windows. Generally I >> > disconnect the machine from the network. It's also a "fix it" drive >> > w/nothing important in the event it becomes infected, but I've never >> > had that happen, either. >> > >> > On 12/27/10, Andre Williams wrote: >> >> Yep, I'm right there with you 100%! >> >> Andre >> >> - Original Message - >> >> From: "Don Marang" >> >> To: >> >> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 4:28 PM >> >> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] removing a virus >> >> >> >> >> >> I agree with Andre completely! Reformatting the hard disk and >> >> reinstalling >> >> the Operating System or recovering from a known good disk image is the >> >> only >> >> way to be sure the malware is removed. Anything short of that will >> >> likely >> >> have a small remnant left over that will infect the whole computer >> >> again >> >> or >> >> will damage necessary system files in the process. >> >> >> >> Most likely, your computer will run faster anyway, since Windows really >> >> needs to be reinstalled about once a year just to clean out the clutter >> >> and >> >> the registry. >> >>
Re: [Blind-Computing] removing a virus
Well, I'm assuming the power company does it their way because they've found its fastest, but I don't work there so have to take my nephew's word for it. The guy he's really jealous of is the person in charge of testing all the new equipment. He says there is a main guy and a couple of helpers whose only job is to play with all the newly released computers, cell phones, laptops, and other electronic equipment for durability and such. He says they need lots of testing as they buy these computers by the hundreds so they need to test that they will last. Andre - Original Message - From: "Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 7:29 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] removing a virus Hi Andre, I suspect that Jackie may work for multiple clients who have their individual networks and configurations. My brother-in-law does the same kind of work that I think Jackie does, and he also cleans up these things the way she does. He says it is because each of the networks is different and he finds it faster. He also said that everyone has their preferred way of doing things, and if he were working on his own network, he might very well do it your way if he didn't have an alternative. Recently Andre Williams wrote: >Interesting. My nephew works for our city's power company and he says they >don't bother with any of those procedures as they take too long. He says >his >tools consist of a bag full of operating system images and a thumb drive >with hundreds of serial keys including a password override for terminated >employees that "can't" remember their passwords. He said he carries a very >durable but very slow 10-hour battery life laptop when he's out on the >streets, but when it comes to monitoring computers at work he uses a laptop >that breaks into 2 parts and becomes a type of mobile unit. >Andre > >- Original Message - >From: "Jackie McBride" >To: >Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 7:02 PM >Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] removing a virus > > >Andre, I *routinely* fix these problems because that is what I do for >a living. As I said, I don't connect my computer that I use to repair >others' machines to a network & therefore the integrity of that >network is not in question. I'm trained both in computer forensics as >well as in malware removal. While I agree that there are times when >reformatting the operating system is necessary, it often is not. It >depends on the type of malware infection, how good the tools one has >for doing such removal, the operator's proficiency w/those tools, & a >variety of other factors. > >On 12/27/10, Andre Williams wrote: > > While it might appear all is fine it might not be. You are the best > > judge > > of > > the integrity of your network. I would be concerned about "routinely" > > having > > to fix these problems. I'll act on the advice of security experts and do > > my > > best to insure any virus whether seemingly harmless to very destructive > > is > > not an unknown factor in any of the often strange quirks in Windows > > world. > > After an infection a reformat or image recovery gives me this peace of > > mind. > > Andre > > - Original Message - > > From: "Jackie McBride" > > To: > > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 6:16 PM > > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] removing a virus > > > > > > I routinely fix these sorts of problems by taking the drive out of the > > computer, hooking it up to an external device, & then putting it on > > another computer & running malware scans. I very very seldom have to > > reformat an OS. > > > > Sometimes I do it in Linux, sometimes in Windows. Generally I > > disconnect the machine from the network. It's also a "fix it" drive > > w/nothing important in the event it becomes infected, but I've never > > had that happen, either. > > > > On 12/27/10, Andre Williams wrote: > >> Yep, I'm right there with you 100%! > >> Andre > >> - Original Message - > >> From: "Don Marang" > >> To: > >> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 4:28 PM > >> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] removing a virus > >> > >> > >> I agree with Andre completely! Reformatting the hard disk and > >> reinstalling > >> the Operating System or recovering from a known good disk image is the > >> only > >> way to be sure the malware is removed. Anything short of that will > >> likely > >> have a small remnant left over that will infect the whole computer > >> again > >> or > >> will damage necessary system files in the process. > >> > >> Most likely, your computer will run faster anyway, since Windows really > >> needs to be reinstalled about once a year just to clean out the clutter > >> and > >> the registry. > >> > >> Don Marang > >> > >> There is just so much stuff in the world that, to me, is devoid of any > >> real > >> substance, value, and content that I just try to make sure that I am > >> working > >> on things that matter. > >> Dean Kamen > >> > >> > >> --
Re: [Blind-Computing] removing a virus
Hi Andre, I suspect that Jackie may work for multiple clients who have their individual networks and configurations. My brother-in-law does the same kind of work that I think Jackie does, and he also cleans up these things the way she does. He says it is because each of the networks is different and he finds it faster. He also said that everyone has their preferred way of doing things, and if he were working on his own network, he might very well do it your way if he didn't have an alternative. Recently Andre Williams wrote: Interesting. My nephew works for our city's power company and he says they don't bother with any of those procedures as they take too long. He says his tools consist of a bag full of operating system images and a thumb drive with hundreds of serial keys including a password override for terminated employees that "can't" remember their passwords. He said he carries a very durable but very slow 10-hour battery life laptop when he's out on the streets, but when it comes to monitoring computers at work he uses a laptop that breaks into 2 parts and becomes a type of mobile unit. Andre - Original Message - From: "Jackie McBride" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] removing a virus Andre, I *routinely* fix these problems because that is what I do for a living. As I said, I don't connect my computer that I use to repair others' machines to a network & therefore the integrity of that network is not in question. I'm trained both in computer forensics as well as in malware removal. While I agree that there are times when reformatting the operating system is necessary, it often is not. It depends on the type of malware infection, how good the tools one has for doing such removal, the operator's proficiency w/those tools, & a variety of other factors. On 12/27/10, Andre Williams wrote: > While it might appear all is fine it might not be. You are the best judge > of > the integrity of your network. I would be concerned about "routinely" > having > to fix these problems. I'll act on the advice of security experts and do > my > best to insure any virus whether seemingly harmless to very destructive is > not an unknown factor in any of the often strange quirks in Windows world. > After an infection a reformat or image recovery gives me this peace of > mind. > Andre > - Original Message - > From: "Jackie McBride" > To: > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 6:16 PM > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] removing a virus > > > I routinely fix these sorts of problems by taking the drive out of the > computer, hooking it up to an external device, & then putting it on > another computer & running malware scans. I very very seldom have to > reformat an OS. > > Sometimes I do it in Linux, sometimes in Windows. Generally I > disconnect the machine from the network. It's also a "fix it" drive > w/nothing important in the event it becomes infected, but I've never > had that happen, either. > > On 12/27/10, Andre Williams wrote: >> Yep, I'm right there with you 100%! >> Andre >> - Original Message - >> From: "Don Marang" >> To: >> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 4:28 PM >> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] removing a virus >> >> >> I agree with Andre completely! Reformatting the hard disk and >> reinstalling >> the Operating System or recovering from a known good disk image is the >> only >> way to be sure the malware is removed. Anything short of that will >> likely >> have a small remnant left over that will infect the whole computer again >> or >> will damage necessary system files in the process. >> >> Most likely, your computer will run faster anyway, since Windows really >> needs to be reinstalled about once a year just to clean out the clutter >> and >> the registry. >> >> Don Marang >> >> There is just so much stuff in the world that, to me, is devoid of any >> real >> substance, value, and content that I just try to make sure that I am >> working >> on things that matter. >> Dean Kamen >> >> >> -- >> From: "Andre Williams" >> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 6:34 PM >> To: >> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] removing a virus >> >>> Tell him to reformat and reinstall the operating system. With viruses >>> now >>> a >>> days you can never be sure if they're cleaned off completely In the >>> hours >>> and possibly days he's going to spend trying to figure this out and >>> trying >>> to clean his computer he can save himself the time and trouble and >>> reformat >>> and reload windows in about 2 hours. This happened to me sometime back >>> and >>> from the time I realized I had a virus placing 300 items on my system >>> tray >>> until the time I reinstalled and image of my hard drive it must have >>> been >>> an >>> hour. Image for Windows to the rescue! He also poses a danger to other >>> computers on the network at his job. >>> Andre >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Lenny McH
Re: [Blind-Computing] removing a virus
Interesting. My nephew works for our city's power company and he says they don't bother with any of those procedures as they take too long. He says his tools consist of a bag full of operating system images and a thumb drive with hundreds of serial keys including a password override for terminated employees that "can't" remember their passwords. He said he carries a very durable but very slow 10-hour battery life laptop when he's out on the streets, but when it comes to monitoring computers at work he uses a laptop that breaks into 2 parts and becomes a type of mobile unit. Andre - Original Message - From: "Jackie McBride" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] removing a virus Andre, I *routinely* fix these problems because that is what I do for a living. As I said, I don't connect my computer that I use to repair others' machines to a network & therefore the integrity of that network is not in question. I'm trained both in computer forensics as well as in malware removal. While I agree that there are times when reformatting the operating system is necessary, it often is not. It depends on the type of malware infection, how good the tools one has for doing such removal, the operator's proficiency w/those tools, & a variety of other factors. On 12/27/10, Andre Williams wrote: > While it might appear all is fine it might not be. You are the best judge > of > the integrity of your network. I would be concerned about "routinely" > having > to fix these problems. I'll act on the advice of security experts and do > my > best to insure any virus whether seemingly harmless to very destructive is > not an unknown factor in any of the often strange quirks in Windows world. > After an infection a reformat or image recovery gives me this peace of > mind. > Andre > - Original Message - > From: "Jackie McBride" > To: > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 6:16 PM > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] removing a virus > > > I routinely fix these sorts of problems by taking the drive out of the > computer, hooking it up to an external device, & then putting it on > another computer & running malware scans. I very very seldom have to > reformat an OS. > > Sometimes I do it in Linux, sometimes in Windows. Generally I > disconnect the machine from the network. It's also a "fix it" drive > w/nothing important in the event it becomes infected, but I've never > had that happen, either. > > On 12/27/10, Andre Williams wrote: >> Yep, I'm right there with you 100%! >> Andre >> - Original Message - >> From: "Don Marang" >> To: >> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 4:28 PM >> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] removing a virus >> >> >> I agree with Andre completely! Reformatting the hard disk and >> reinstalling >> the Operating System or recovering from a known good disk image is the >> only >> way to be sure the malware is removed. Anything short of that will >> likely >> have a small remnant left over that will infect the whole computer again >> or >> will damage necessary system files in the process. >> >> Most likely, your computer will run faster anyway, since Windows really >> needs to be reinstalled about once a year just to clean out the clutter >> and >> the registry. >> >> Don Marang >> >> There is just so much stuff in the world that, to me, is devoid of any >> real >> substance, value, and content that I just try to make sure that I am >> working >> on things that matter. >> Dean Kamen >> >> >> -- >> From: "Andre Williams" >> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 6:34 PM >> To: >> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] removing a virus >> >>> Tell him to reformat and reinstall the operating system. With viruses >>> now >>> a >>> days you can never be sure if they're cleaned off completely In the >>> hours >>> and possibly days he's going to spend trying to figure this out and >>> trying >>> to clean his computer he can save himself the time and trouble and >>> reformat >>> and reload windows in about 2 hours. This happened to me sometime back >>> and >>> from the time I realized I had a virus placing 300 items on my system >>> tray >>> until the time I reinstalled and image of my hard drive it must have >>> been >>> an >>> hour. Image for Windows to the rescue! He also poses a danger to other >>> computers on the network at his job. >>> Andre >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Lenny McHugh" >>> To: "blind computing" >>> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 3:23 PM >>> Subject: [Blind-Computing] removing a virus >>> >>> >>> I am trying to help a friend remove a virus from his work computer. Avg >>> did >>> identify it and reported that it could not be removed because it was in >>> memory. He did not write the name down but it is in win32. The computer >>> can >>> only be started in safe mode and if he lets it run it gives a message >>> that >>> chkdsk should be run with the f switch. That also will not ru
[Blind-Computing] Window 7
hello listers, I'm running window 7 on VMware player, a virtualization software. After i setup the operating system, it works fine but once i install Jaws, a save mode message was shown and prompt you to restore the system. After restored, window works fine again but jaws didn't installed. I tried to install different version of jaws but the result still the same. In order to test whether is the window or jaws problem, i have installed NVDA. At this time, window works fine and no problem occured. So, what's are the problem? any sollutions, ideas or suggestions? Your help will very appreciated. Thanks For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] removing a virus
Andre, I *routinely* fix these problems because that is what I do for a living. As I said, I don't connect my computer that I use to repair others' machines to a network & therefore the integrity of that network is not in question. I'm trained both in computer forensics as well as in malware removal. While I agree that there are times when reformatting the operating system is necessary, it often is not. It depends on the type of malware infection, how good the tools one has for doing such removal, the operator's proficiency w/those tools, & a variety of other factors. On 12/27/10, Andre Williams wrote: > While it might appear all is fine it might not be. You are the best judge of > the integrity of your network. I would be concerned about "routinely" having > to fix these problems. I'll act on the advice of security experts and do my > best to insure any virus whether seemingly harmless to very destructive is > not an unknown factor in any of the often strange quirks in Windows world. > After an infection a reformat or image recovery gives me this peace of mind. > Andre > - Original Message - > From: "Jackie McBride" > To: > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 6:16 PM > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] removing a virus > > > I routinely fix these sorts of problems by taking the drive out of the > computer, hooking it up to an external device, & then putting it on > another computer & running malware scans. I very very seldom have to > reformat an OS. > > Sometimes I do it in Linux, sometimes in Windows. Generally I > disconnect the machine from the network. It's also a "fix it" drive > w/nothing important in the event it becomes infected, but I've never > had that happen, either. > > On 12/27/10, Andre Williams wrote: >> Yep, I'm right there with you 100%! >> Andre >> - Original Message - >> From: "Don Marang" >> To: >> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 4:28 PM >> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] removing a virus >> >> >> I agree with Andre completely! Reformatting the hard disk and >> reinstalling >> the Operating System or recovering from a known good disk image is the >> only >> way to be sure the malware is removed. Anything short of that will likely >> have a small remnant left over that will infect the whole computer again >> or >> will damage necessary system files in the process. >> >> Most likely, your computer will run faster anyway, since Windows really >> needs to be reinstalled about once a year just to clean out the clutter >> and >> the registry. >> >> Don Marang >> >> There is just so much stuff in the world that, to me, is devoid of any >> real >> substance, value, and content that I just try to make sure that I am >> working >> on things that matter. >> Dean Kamen >> >> >> -- >> From: "Andre Williams" >> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 6:34 PM >> To: >> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] removing a virus >> >>> Tell him to reformat and reinstall the operating system. With viruses now >>> a >>> days you can never be sure if they're cleaned off completely In the hours >>> and possibly days he's going to spend trying to figure this out and >>> trying >>> to clean his computer he can save himself the time and trouble and >>> reformat >>> and reload windows in about 2 hours. This happened to me sometime back >>> and >>> from the time I realized I had a virus placing 300 items on my system >>> tray >>> until the time I reinstalled and image of my hard drive it must have been >>> an >>> hour. Image for Windows to the rescue! He also poses a danger to other >>> computers on the network at his job. >>> Andre >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Lenny McHugh" >>> To: "blind computing" >>> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 3:23 PM >>> Subject: [Blind-Computing] removing a virus >>> >>> >>> I am trying to help a friend remove a virus from his work computer. Avg >>> did >>> identify it and reported that it could not be removed because it was in >>> memory. He did not write the name down but it is in win32. The computer >>> can >>> only be started in safe mode and if he lets it run it gives a message >>> that >>> chkdsk should be run with the f switch. That also will not run when the >>> machine is restarted. He turn system restore off and ran avg and it did >>> not >>> help. >>> He is using xp professional. He also ran kapersky and it did not help. >>> Any >>> quick suggestions? >>> Thanks >>> --- >>> Please visit my home page, it is motivational, educational, inspirational >>> with a touch of humor. There is also a very extensive resource list for >>> the >>> blind. >>> http://www.LennyMcHugh.com >>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >>> >>> >>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >>> >> >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >> >> >> For a
Re: [Blind-Computing] removing a virus
While it might appear all is fine it might not be. You are the best judge of the integrity of your network. I would be concerned about "routinely" having to fix these problems. I'll act on the advice of security experts and do my best to insure any virus whether seemingly harmless to very destructive is not an unknown factor in any of the often strange quirks in Windows world. After an infection a reformat or image recovery gives me this peace of mind. Andre - Original Message - From: "Jackie McBride" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 6:16 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] removing a virus I routinely fix these sorts of problems by taking the drive out of the computer, hooking it up to an external device, & then putting it on another computer & running malware scans. I very very seldom have to reformat an OS. Sometimes I do it in Linux, sometimes in Windows. Generally I disconnect the machine from the network. It's also a "fix it" drive w/nothing important in the event it becomes infected, but I've never had that happen, either. On 12/27/10, Andre Williams wrote: > Yep, I'm right there with you 100%! > Andre > - Original Message - > From: "Don Marang" > To: > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 4:28 PM > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] removing a virus > > > I agree with Andre completely! Reformatting the hard disk and > reinstalling > the Operating System or recovering from a known good disk image is the > only > way to be sure the malware is removed. Anything short of that will likely > have a small remnant left over that will infect the whole computer again > or > will damage necessary system files in the process. > > Most likely, your computer will run faster anyway, since Windows really > needs to be reinstalled about once a year just to clean out the clutter > and > the registry. > > Don Marang > > There is just so much stuff in the world that, to me, is devoid of any > real > substance, value, and content that I just try to make sure that I am > working > on things that matter. > Dean Kamen > > > -- > From: "Andre Williams" > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 6:34 PM > To: > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] removing a virus > >> Tell him to reformat and reinstall the operating system. With viruses now >> a >> days you can never be sure if they're cleaned off completely In the hours >> and possibly days he's going to spend trying to figure this out and >> trying >> to clean his computer he can save himself the time and trouble and >> reformat >> and reload windows in about 2 hours. This happened to me sometime back >> and >> from the time I realized I had a virus placing 300 items on my system >> tray >> until the time I reinstalled and image of my hard drive it must have been >> an >> hour. Image for Windows to the rescue! He also poses a danger to other >> computers on the network at his job. >> Andre >> - Original Message - >> From: "Lenny McHugh" >> To: "blind computing" >> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 3:23 PM >> Subject: [Blind-Computing] removing a virus >> >> >> I am trying to help a friend remove a virus from his work computer. Avg >> did >> identify it and reported that it could not be removed because it was in >> memory. He did not write the name down but it is in win32. The computer >> can >> only be started in safe mode and if he lets it run it gives a message >> that >> chkdsk should be run with the f switch. That also will not run when the >> machine is restarted. He turn system restore off and ran avg and it did >> not >> help. >> He is using xp professional. He also ran kapersky and it did not help. >> Any >> quick suggestions? >> Thanks >> --- >> Please visit my home page, it is motivational, educational, inspirational >> with a touch of humor. There is also a very extensive resource list for >> the >> blind. >> http://www.LennyMcHugh.com >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >> >> >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >> > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > -- Change the world--1 deed at a time Jackie McBride Scripting Classes: http://jawsscripting.lonsdalemedia.org homePage: www.abletec.serverheaven.net For technophobes: www.technophoeb.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] removing a virus
I routinely fix these sorts of problems by taking the drive out of the computer, hooking it up to an external device, & then putting it on another computer & running malware scans. I very very seldom have to reformat an OS. Sometimes I do it in Linux, sometimes in Windows. Generally I disconnect the machine from the network. It's also a "fix it" drive w/nothing important in the event it becomes infected, but I've never had that happen, either. On 12/27/10, Andre Williams wrote: > Yep, I'm right there with you 100%! > Andre > - Original Message - > From: "Don Marang" > To: > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 4:28 PM > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] removing a virus > > > I agree with Andre completely! Reformatting the hard disk and reinstalling > the Operating System or recovering from a known good disk image is the only > way to be sure the malware is removed. Anything short of that will likely > have a small remnant left over that will infect the whole computer again or > will damage necessary system files in the process. > > Most likely, your computer will run faster anyway, since Windows really > needs to be reinstalled about once a year just to clean out the clutter and > the registry. > > Don Marang > > There is just so much stuff in the world that, to me, is devoid of any real > substance, value, and content that I just try to make sure that I am working > on things that matter. > Dean Kamen > > > -- > From: "Andre Williams" > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 6:34 PM > To: > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] removing a virus > >> Tell him to reformat and reinstall the operating system. With viruses now >> a >> days you can never be sure if they're cleaned off completely In the hours >> and possibly days he's going to spend trying to figure this out and trying >> to clean his computer he can save himself the time and trouble and >> reformat >> and reload windows in about 2 hours. This happened to me sometime back and >> from the time I realized I had a virus placing 300 items on my system tray >> until the time I reinstalled and image of my hard drive it must have been >> an >> hour. Image for Windows to the rescue! He also poses a danger to other >> computers on the network at his job. >> Andre >> - Original Message - >> From: "Lenny McHugh" >> To: "blind computing" >> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 3:23 PM >> Subject: [Blind-Computing] removing a virus >> >> >> I am trying to help a friend remove a virus from his work computer. Avg >> did >> identify it and reported that it could not be removed because it was in >> memory. He did not write the name down but it is in win32. The computer >> can >> only be started in safe mode and if he lets it run it gives a message that >> chkdsk should be run with the f switch. That also will not run when the >> machine is restarted. He turn system restore off and ran avg and it did >> not >> help. >> He is using xp professional. He also ran kapersky and it did not help. Any >> quick suggestions? >> Thanks >> --- >> Please visit my home page, it is motivational, educational, inspirational >> with a touch of humor. There is also a very extensive resource list for >> the >> blind. >> http://www.LennyMcHugh.com >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >> >> >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >> > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > -- Change the world--1 deed at a time Jackie McBride Scripting Classes: http://jawsscripting.lonsdalemedia.org homePage: www.abletec.serverheaven.net For technophobes: www.technophoeb.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] Send Space
Speaking of file sharing, anyone know anything about http://wwwmybigfile.com That's the one we use, but I honestly don't know if it is safe either. Recently Andre Williams wrote: It's a bit of a dangerous one too as lots of ugly stuff is running rapid on that website. Make sure you configure your IE restrictions or disable java script if you are going to use that website. Earlier I spoke of my computer being struck with a virus that placed 300+ items on my system tray, well, it was SendSpace where I got that virus. Andre - Original Message - From: "Dan Mccurley" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 4:24 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Send Space It is file sharing service. - Original Message - From: "Niamh" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 4:27 PM Subject: [Blind-Computing] Send Space > What is Send Space? > Niamh > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] removing a virus
Yep, I'm right there with you 100%! Andre - Original Message - From: "Don Marang" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 4:28 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] removing a virus I agree with Andre completely! Reformatting the hard disk and reinstalling the Operating System or recovering from a known good disk image is the only way to be sure the malware is removed. Anything short of that will likely have a small remnant left over that will infect the whole computer again or will damage necessary system files in the process. Most likely, your computer will run faster anyway, since Windows really needs to be reinstalled about once a year just to clean out the clutter and the registry. Don Marang There is just so much stuff in the world that, to me, is devoid of any real substance, value, and content that I just try to make sure that I am working on things that matter. Dean Kamen -- From: "Andre Williams" Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 6:34 PM To: Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] removing a virus > Tell him to reformat and reinstall the operating system. With viruses now > a > days you can never be sure if they're cleaned off completely In the hours > and possibly days he's going to spend trying to figure this out and trying > to clean his computer he can save himself the time and trouble and > reformat > and reload windows in about 2 hours. This happened to me sometime back and > from the time I realized I had a virus placing 300 items on my system tray > until the time I reinstalled and image of my hard drive it must have been > an > hour. Image for Windows to the rescue! He also poses a danger to other > computers on the network at his job. > Andre > - Original Message - > From: "Lenny McHugh" > To: "blind computing" > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 3:23 PM > Subject: [Blind-Computing] removing a virus > > > I am trying to help a friend remove a virus from his work computer. Avg > did > identify it and reported that it could not be removed because it was in > memory. He did not write the name down but it is in win32. The computer > can > only be started in safe mode and if he lets it run it gives a message that > chkdsk should be run with the f switch. That also will not run when the > machine is restarted. He turn system restore off and ran avg and it did > not > help. > He is using xp professional. He also ran kapersky and it did not help. Any > quick suggestions? > Thanks > --- > Please visit my home page, it is motivational, educational, inspirational > with a touch of humor. There is also a very extensive resource list for > the > blind. > http://www.LennyMcHugh.com > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] Send Space
It's a bit of a dangerous one too as lots of ugly stuff is running rapid on that website. Make sure you configure your IE restrictions or disable java script if you are going to use that website. Earlier I spoke of my computer being struck with a virus that placed 300+ items on my system tray, well, it was SendSpace where I got that virus. Andre - Original Message - From: "Dan Mccurley" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 4:24 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Send Space It is file sharing service. - Original Message - From: "Niamh" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 4:27 PM Subject: [Blind-Computing] Send Space > What is Send Space? > Niamh > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] removing a virus
I agree with Andre completely! Reformatting the hard disk and reinstalling the Operating System or recovering from a known good disk image is the only way to be sure the malware is removed. Anything short of that will likely have a small remnant left over that will infect the whole computer again or will damage necessary system files in the process. Most likely, your computer will run faster anyway, since Windows really needs to be reinstalled about once a year just to clean out the clutter and the registry. Don Marang There is just so much stuff in the world that, to me, is devoid of any real substance, value, and content that I just try to make sure that I am working on things that matter. Dean Kamen -- From: "Andre Williams" Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 6:34 PM To: Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] removing a virus Tell him to reformat and reinstall the operating system. With viruses now a days you can never be sure if they're cleaned off completely In the hours and possibly days he's going to spend trying to figure this out and trying to clean his computer he can save himself the time and trouble and reformat and reload windows in about 2 hours. This happened to me sometime back and from the time I realized I had a virus placing 300 items on my system tray until the time I reinstalled and image of my hard drive it must have been an hour. Image for Windows to the rescue! He also poses a danger to other computers on the network at his job. Andre - Original Message - From: "Lenny McHugh" To: "blind computing" Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 3:23 PM Subject: [Blind-Computing] removing a virus I am trying to help a friend remove a virus from his work computer. Avg did identify it and reported that it could not be removed because it was in memory. He did not write the name down but it is in win32. The computer can only be started in safe mode and if he lets it run it gives a message that chkdsk should be run with the f switch. That also will not run when the machine is restarted. He turn system restore off and ran avg and it did not help. He is using xp professional. He also ran kapersky and it did not help. Any quick suggestions? Thanks --- Please visit my home page, it is motivational, educational, inspirational with a touch of humor. There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind. http://www.LennyMcHugh.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] Send Space
It is file sharing service. - Original Message - From: "Niamh" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 4:27 PM Subject: [Blind-Computing] Send Space What is Send Space? Niamh For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] the moderating team
Oh yes, I completely forgot about Rick. Sorry. Its all clear now. Andre - Original Message - From: "David Ferrin" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 3:49 PM Subject: [Blind-Computing] the moderating team Blind-Computing list run by owner at jaws-users.com regilman at metrocast.net ricjustice at jaws-users.com David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one up too. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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Read the List Guidelines and you will find the information that you seek. Thank You, Bob -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Andre Williams Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 6:37 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MicrosoftSecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms For my personal information, what kind of authority have you been granted on this list? Seems inefficient if no one knows whose who. Andre - Original Message - From: "regilman" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing]MicrosoftSecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms That really shouldn't matter. Your rudeness towards other members of the list needs to stop. But, Yes I do. You may want to review the list Guidelines. Thank You, Bob -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Andre Williams Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 5:31 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MicrosoftSecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms Do you hold any sort of authority on this list? Andre - Original Message - From: "regilman" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing]MicrosoftSecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms Alright Stop the childness bickering. Thank You, Bob -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Andre Williams Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 5:00 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MicrosoftSecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms It was Christmas for me too and I was able to be mindful of the world around me. I don't think you get the point as this happens holiday or not so you cool it! Andre - Original Message - From: "Marilyn Walker" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 12:45 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing]MicrosoftSecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms Andre, cool it. It was Christmas Friday and Saturday unless you missed that news.So I hope you'll excuse us for not being preoccupied with mse. marilyn - Original Message - From: "Andre Williams" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 1:55 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing]MicrosoftSecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms : Guys. Why does it seem as we reinvent the wheel on this topic so much? I've : come across posts today from people oblivious to what MSE 2.0 is, why? We : had a long drawn out discussion about MSE2.0 just this past Thursday or : Friday. Those who stated they had no intensions on risking their computers : to install this upgrade are now directing people how to upgrade themselves. : It appears many others have never read any of this information at all and it : doesn't seem as they're new listers. Am I correct in assuming many read : subject fields then delete without at least reading the first couple of : lines? Seems like lots of wasted effort on behalf of the poster and those : looking for computer related information. Oh yeah, it was Don who first : alerted us to the new release of MSE 2.0. : Andre : - Original Message - : From: "Marilyn Walker" : To: : Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 11:53 AM : Subject: Re: : [Blind-Computing]MicrosoftSecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms : : : Let us know, Mike. marilyn : - Original Message - : From: "Mike & Barbara In Arcadia" : To: : Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 1:41 PM : Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] : MicrosoftSecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms : : :: Hi Gerald; :: :: Damn good point! But, my understanding is that neither MSSE or SAS : checked :: for Malware & that is why Microsoft wants you to use their Malware Bytes :: program. I need to do some more research on exactly what MSSE & SAS scan :: for. Luckily I haven't had any problems thus far! Take care. :: Mike :: :: - Original Message - :: From: Gerald Levy :: To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com :: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 11:15 AM :: Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft :: SecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms :: :: :: :: Whoa! You're running MSE and real-time SAS together? What happens if :: both :: programs detect the same malware threat and simultaneously attempt to :: quarantine it? Seems to me like that could be a recipe for disaster. As :: long as your two real time programs don't encounter the same threat, :: you're :: probably okay. But, if one of these days, they both encounter the same :: threat, your system could freeze up or crash because of the potential :: conflict. :: :: Gerald :: :: :: - Original Message - :: From: "Mike & Barbara In Arcadia" :: To: :: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 1:19 PM :: Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security :: Essential&otherspywareprograms :: :: :: > Hi Matthew; :: > ::
[Blind-Computing] the moderating team
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The domain name belongs to me. Bob has been with me since we started the jaws users list in 2005. Rick joined up in the spring of 2006. Blind computing started around 2007. I hope that is enough information for you. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one up too. - Original Message - From: "Andre Williams" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing]MicrosoftSecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms For my personal information, what kind of authority have you been granted on this list? Seems inefficient if no one knows whose who. Andre - Original Message - From: "regilman" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing]MicrosoftSecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms That really shouldn't matter. Your rudeness towards other members of the list needs to stop. But, Yes I do. You may want to review the list Guidelines. Thank You, Bob -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Andre Williams Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 5:31 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MicrosoftSecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms Do you hold any sort of authority on this list? Andre - Original Message - From: "regilman" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing]MicrosoftSecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms Alright Stop the childness bickering. Thank You, Bob -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Andre Williams Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 5:00 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MicrosoftSecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms It was Christmas for me too and I was able to be mindful of the world around me. I don't think you get the point as this happens holiday or not so you cool it! Andre - Original Message - From: "Marilyn Walker" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 12:45 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing]MicrosoftSecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms Andre, cool it. It was Christmas Friday and Saturday unless you missed that news.So I hope you'll excuse us for not being preoccupied with mse. marilyn - Original Message - From: "Andre Williams" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 1:55 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing]MicrosoftSecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms : Guys. Why does it seem as we reinvent the wheel on this topic so much? I've : come across posts today from people oblivious to what MSE 2.0 is, why? We : had a long drawn out discussion about MSE2.0 just this past Thursday or : Friday. Those who stated they had no intensions on risking their computers : to install this upgrade are now directing people how to upgrade themselves. : It appears many others have never read any of this information at all and it : doesn't seem as they're new listers. Am I correct in assuming many read : subject fields then delete without at least reading the first couple of : lines? Seems like lots of wasted effort on behalf of the poster and those : looking for computer related information. Oh yeah, it was Don who first : alerted us to the new release of MSE 2.0. : Andre : - Original Message - : From: "Marilyn Walker" : To: : Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 11:53 AM : Subject: Re: : [Blind-Computing]MicrosoftSecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms : : : Let us know, Mike. marilyn : - Original Message - : From: "Mike & Barbara In Arcadia" : To: : Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 1:41 PM : Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] : MicrosoftSecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms : : :: Hi Gerald; :: :: Damn good point! But, my understanding is that neither MSSE or SAS : checked :: for Malware & that is why Microsoft wants you to use their Malware Bytes :: program. I need to do some more research on exactly what MSSE & SAS scan :: for. Luckily I haven't had any problems thus far! Take care. :: Mike :: :: - Original Message - :: From: Gerald Levy :: To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com :: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 11:15 AM :: Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft :: SecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms :: :: :: :: Whoa! You're running MSE and real-time SAS together? What happens if :: both :: programs detect the same malware threat and simultaneously attempt to :: quarantine it? Seems to me like that could be a recipe for disaster. As :: long as your two real time programs don't encounter the same threat, :: you're :: probably okay. But, if one of these days, they both encounter the same :: threat, your system could freeze up or crash because of the potential :: conflict. :: :: Gerald :: :: :: - Original Message - :: From: "Mike & Barbara In Arcadia" :: To: :: Sent: Monda
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For my personal information, what kind of authority have you been granted on this list? Seems inefficient if no one knows whose who. Andre - Original Message - From: "regilman" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing]MicrosoftSecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms That really shouldn't matter. Your rudeness towards other members of the list needs to stop. But, Yes I do. You may want to review the list Guidelines. Thank You, Bob -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Andre Williams Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 5:31 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MicrosoftSecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms Do you hold any sort of authority on this list? Andre - Original Message - From: "regilman" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing]MicrosoftSecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms Alright Stop the childness bickering. Thank You, Bob -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Andre Williams Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 5:00 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MicrosoftSecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms It was Christmas for me too and I was able to be mindful of the world around me. I don't think you get the point as this happens holiday or not so you cool it! Andre - Original Message - From: "Marilyn Walker" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 12:45 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing]MicrosoftSecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms Andre, cool it. It was Christmas Friday and Saturday unless you missed that news.So I hope you'll excuse us for not being preoccupied with mse. marilyn - Original Message - From: "Andre Williams" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 1:55 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing]MicrosoftSecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms : Guys. Why does it seem as we reinvent the wheel on this topic so much? I've : come across posts today from people oblivious to what MSE 2.0 is, why? We : had a long drawn out discussion about MSE2.0 just this past Thursday or : Friday. Those who stated they had no intensions on risking their computers : to install this upgrade are now directing people how to upgrade themselves. : It appears many others have never read any of this information at all and it : doesn't seem as they're new listers. Am I correct in assuming many read : subject fields then delete without at least reading the first couple of : lines? Seems like lots of wasted effort on behalf of the poster and those : looking for computer related information. Oh yeah, it was Don who first : alerted us to the new release of MSE 2.0. : Andre : - Original Message - : From: "Marilyn Walker" : To: : Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 11:53 AM : Subject: Re: : [Blind-Computing]MicrosoftSecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms : : : Let us know, Mike. marilyn : - Original Message - : From: "Mike & Barbara In Arcadia" : To: : Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 1:41 PM : Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] : MicrosoftSecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms : : :: Hi Gerald; :: :: Damn good point! But, my understanding is that neither MSSE or SAS : checked :: for Malware & that is why Microsoft wants you to use their Malware Bytes :: program. I need to do some more research on exactly what MSSE & SAS scan :: for. Luckily I haven't had any problems thus far! Take care. :: Mike :: :: - Original Message - :: From: Gerald Levy :: To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com :: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 11:15 AM :: Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft :: SecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms :: :: :: :: Whoa! You're running MSE and real-time SAS together? What happens if :: both :: programs detect the same malware threat and simultaneously attempt to :: quarantine it? Seems to me like that could be a recipe for disaster. As :: long as your two real time programs don't encounter the same threat, :: you're :: probably okay. But, if one of these days, they both encounter the same :: threat, your system could freeze up or crash because of the potential :: conflict. :: :: Gerald :: :: :: - Original Message - :: From: "Mike & Barbara In Arcadia" :: To: :: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 1:19 PM :: Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security :: Essential&otherspywareprograms :: :: :: > Hi Matthew; :: > :: > No, you don't need to stop the SAS Real Time from running. You can run :: > the :: > MSSE & SAS :: > Real Time at the same time. Hope this helps. Take care. :: > Mike :: > :: > :: > :: > - Original Message - :: > From: matthew :: > To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com :: > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 9:36 AM :: > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft S
Re: [Blind-Computing] removing a virus
I don't believe that is a good thing. They can try running AVG in safe mode it may have better luck getting rid of it. It sounds like it is in the boot up sector. I know there are ways of replacing that but it is not easy from what I remember. They may have to do a reformat but hopefully someone else has some better ideas. On 12/27/2010 5:23 PM, Lenny McHugh wrote: I am trying to help a friend remove a virus from his work computer. Avg did identify it and reported that it could not be removed because it was in memory. He did not write the name down but it is in win32. The computer can only be started in safe mode and if he lets it run it gives a message that chkdsk should be run with the f switch. That also will not run when the machine is restarted. He turn system restore off and ran avg and it did not help. He is using xp professional. He also ran kapersky and it did not help. Any quick suggestions? Thanks --- Please visit my home page, it is motivational, educational, inspirational with a touch of humor. There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind. http://www.LennyMcHugh.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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He started it with me so you better listen to him. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one up too. - Original Message - From: "Andre Williams" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 5:30 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing]MicrosoftSecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms Do you hold any sort of authority on this list? Andre - Original Message - From: "regilman" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing]MicrosoftSecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms Alright Stop the childness bickering. Thank You, Bob -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Andre Williams Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 5:00 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MicrosoftSecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms It was Christmas for me too and I was able to be mindful of the world around me. I don't think you get the point as this happens holiday or not so you cool it! Andre - Original Message - From: "Marilyn Walker" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 12:45 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing]MicrosoftSecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms Andre, cool it. It was Christmas Friday and Saturday unless you missed that news.So I hope you'll excuse us for not being preoccupied with mse. marilyn - Original Message - From: "Andre Williams" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 1:55 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing]MicrosoftSecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms : Guys. Why does it seem as we reinvent the wheel on this topic so much? I've : come across posts today from people oblivious to what MSE 2.0 is, why? We : had a long drawn out discussion about MSE2.0 just this past Thursday or : Friday. Those who stated they had no intensions on risking their computers : to install this upgrade are now directing people how to upgrade themselves. : It appears many others have never read any of this information at all and it : doesn't seem as they're new listers. Am I correct in assuming many read : subject fields then delete without at least reading the first couple of : lines? Seems like lots of wasted effort on behalf of the poster and those : looking for computer related information. Oh yeah, it was Don who first : alerted us to the new release of MSE 2.0. : Andre : - Original Message - : From: "Marilyn Walker" : To: : Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 11:53 AM : Subject: Re: : [Blind-Computing]MicrosoftSecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms : : : Let us know, Mike. marilyn : - Original Message - : From: "Mike & Barbara In Arcadia" : To: : Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 1:41 PM : Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] : MicrosoftSecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms : : :: Hi Gerald; :: :: Damn good point! But, my understanding is that neither MSSE or SAS : checked :: for Malware & that is why Microsoft wants you to use their Malware Bytes :: program. I need to do some more research on exactly what MSSE & SAS scan :: for. Luckily I haven't had any problems thus far! Take care. :: Mike :: :: - Original Message - :: From: Gerald Levy :: To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com :: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 11:15 AM :: Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft :: SecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms :: :: :: :: Whoa! You're running MSE and real-time SAS together? What happens if :: both :: programs detect the same malware threat and simultaneously attempt to :: quarantine it? Seems to me like that could be a recipe for disaster. As :: long as your two real time programs don't encounter the same threat, :: you're :: probably okay. But, if one of these days, they both encounter the same :: threat, your system could freeze up or crash because of the potential :: conflict. :: :: Gerald :: :: :: - Original Message - :: From: "Mike & Barbara In Arcadia" :: To: :: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 1:19 PM :: Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security :: Essential&otherspywareprograms :: :: :: > Hi Matthew; :: > :: > No, you don't need to stop the SAS Real Time from running. You can run :: > the :: > MSSE & SAS :: > Real Time at the same time. Hope this helps. Take care. :: > Mike :: > :: > :: > :: > - Original Message - :: > From: matthew :: > To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com :: > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 9:36 AM :: > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential :: > &otherspywareprograms :: > :: > :: > Ahh ok cool. I am running the free version of malware bites but have :: the :: > paid version of super anti spyware. Do I need to disable real time :: > protection if that is what it uses? I am going to take a look at it : but :: > any extra help would be great, thanks. :: > :: > On 12/27/2010 11:15 AM, Gerald Levy wrote: :: > > :: > > You can update to MSE 2.
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All right people calm down and enough with the abusive attitude. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one up too. - Original Message - From: "Andre Williams" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 5:00 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing]MicrosoftSecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms It was Christmas for me too and I was able to be mindful of the world around me. I don't think you get the point as this happens holiday or not so you cool it! Andre - Original Message - From: "Marilyn Walker" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 12:45 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing]MicrosoftSecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms Andre, cool it. It was Christmas Friday and Saturday unless you missed that news.So I hope you'll excuse us for not being preoccupied with mse. marilyn - Original Message - From: "Andre Williams" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 1:55 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing]MicrosoftSecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms : Guys. Why does it seem as we reinvent the wheel on this topic so much? I've : come across posts today from people oblivious to what MSE 2.0 is, why? We : had a long drawn out discussion about MSE2.0 just this past Thursday or : Friday. Those who stated they had no intensions on risking their computers : to install this upgrade are now directing people how to upgrade themselves. : It appears many others have never read any of this information at all and it : doesn't seem as they're new listers. Am I correct in assuming many read : subject fields then delete without at least reading the first couple of : lines? Seems like lots of wasted effort on behalf of the poster and those : looking for computer related information. Oh yeah, it was Don who first : alerted us to the new release of MSE 2.0. : Andre : - Original Message - : From: "Marilyn Walker" : To: : Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 11:53 AM : Subject: Re: : [Blind-Computing]MicrosoftSecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms : : : Let us know, Mike. marilyn : - Original Message - : From: "Mike & Barbara In Arcadia" : To: : Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 1:41 PM : Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] : MicrosoftSecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms : : :: Hi Gerald; :: :: Damn good point! But, my understanding is that neither MSSE or SAS : checked :: for Malware & that is why Microsoft wants you to use their Malware Bytes :: program. I need to do some more research on exactly what MSSE & SAS scan :: for. Luckily I haven't had any problems thus far! Take care. :: Mike :: :: - Original Message - :: From: Gerald Levy :: To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com :: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 11:15 AM :: Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft :: SecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms :: :: :: :: Whoa! You're running MSE and real-time SAS together? What happens if :: both :: programs detect the same malware threat and simultaneously attempt to :: quarantine it? Seems to me like that could be a recipe for disaster. As :: long as your two real time programs don't encounter the same threat, :: you're :: probably okay. But, if one of these days, they both encounter the same :: threat, your system could freeze up or crash because of the potential :: conflict. :: :: Gerald :: :: :: - Original Message - :: From: "Mike & Barbara In Arcadia" :: To: :: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 1:19 PM :: Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security :: Essential&otherspywareprograms :: :: :: > Hi Matthew; :: > :: > No, you don't need to stop the SAS Real Time from running. You can run :: > the :: > MSSE & SAS :: > Real Time at the same time. Hope this helps. Take care. :: > Mike :: > :: > :: > :: > - Original Message - :: > From: matthew :: > To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com :: > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 9:36 AM :: > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential :: > &otherspywareprograms :: > :: > :: > Ahh ok cool. I am running the free version of malware bites but have :: the :: > paid version of super anti spyware. Do I need to disable real time :: > protection if that is what it uses? I am going to take a look at it : but :: > any extra help would be great, thanks. :: > :: > On 12/27/2010 11:15 AM, Gerald Levy wrote: :: > > :: > > You can update to MSE 2.0 without first uninstalling your current :: > > version. However, if you have other real-time anti-malware programs :: on :: > > your PC, they should be removed, since they might cause conflicts :: with :: > > MSE. However, anti-spyware programs like Malware Bytes and the free :: > > version of Super Anti Spyware, which are on-demand scanners only, do :: > > not have to be removed, and in fact, complement MSE very nicely. :: > > Remember, the key term here is "real-time". You never want more : than :: > > one real-time anti-malware program on the s
Re: [Blind-Computing] removing a virus
Tell him to reformat and reinstall the operating system. With viruses now a days you can never be sure if they're cleaned off completely In the hours and possibly days he's going to spend trying to figure this out and trying to clean his computer he can save himself the time and trouble and reformat and reload windows in about 2 hours. This happened to me sometime back and from the time I realized I had a virus placing 300 items on my system tray until the time I reinstalled and image of my hard drive it must have been an hour. Image for Windows to the rescue! He also poses a danger to other computers on the network at his job. Andre - Original Message - From: "Lenny McHugh" To: "blind computing" Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 3:23 PM Subject: [Blind-Computing] removing a virus I am trying to help a friend remove a virus from his work computer. Avg did identify it and reported that it could not be removed because it was in memory. He did not write the name down but it is in win32. The computer can only be started in safe mode and if he lets it run it gives a message that chkdsk should be run with the f switch. That also will not run when the machine is restarted. He turn system restore off and ran avg and it did not help. He is using xp professional. He also ran kapersky and it did not help. Any quick suggestions? Thanks --- Please visit my home page, it is motivational, educational, inspirational with a touch of humor. There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind. http://www.LennyMcHugh.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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That really shouldn't matter. Your rudeness towards other members of the list needs to stop. But, Yes I do. You may want to review the list Guidelines. Thank You, Bob -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Andre Williams Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 5:31 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MicrosoftSecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms Do you hold any sort of authority on this list? Andre - Original Message - From: "regilman" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing]MicrosoftSecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms Alright Stop the childness bickering. Thank You, Bob -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Andre Williams Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 5:00 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MicrosoftSecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms It was Christmas for me too and I was able to be mindful of the world around me. I don't think you get the point as this happens holiday or not so you cool it! Andre - Original Message - From: "Marilyn Walker" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 12:45 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing]MicrosoftSecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms Andre, cool it. It was Christmas Friday and Saturday unless you missed that news.So I hope you'll excuse us for not being preoccupied with mse. marilyn - Original Message - From: "Andre Williams" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 1:55 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing]MicrosoftSecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms : Guys. Why does it seem as we reinvent the wheel on this topic so much? I've : come across posts today from people oblivious to what MSE 2.0 is, why? We : had a long drawn out discussion about MSE2.0 just this past Thursday or : Friday. Those who stated they had no intensions on risking their computers : to install this upgrade are now directing people how to upgrade themselves. : It appears many others have never read any of this information at all and it : doesn't seem as they're new listers. Am I correct in assuming many read : subject fields then delete without at least reading the first couple of : lines? Seems like lots of wasted effort on behalf of the poster and those : looking for computer related information. Oh yeah, it was Don who first : alerted us to the new release of MSE 2.0. : Andre : - Original Message - : From: "Marilyn Walker" : To: : Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 11:53 AM : Subject: Re: : [Blind-Computing]MicrosoftSecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms : : : Let us know, Mike. marilyn : - Original Message - : From: "Mike & Barbara In Arcadia" : To: : Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 1:41 PM : Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] : MicrosoftSecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms : : :: Hi Gerald; :: :: Damn good point! But, my understanding is that neither MSSE or SAS : checked :: for Malware & that is why Microsoft wants you to use their Malware Bytes :: program. I need to do some more research on exactly what MSSE & SAS scan :: for. Luckily I haven't had any problems thus far! Take care. :: Mike :: :: - Original Message - :: From: Gerald Levy :: To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com :: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 11:15 AM :: Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft :: SecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms :: :: :: :: Whoa! You're running MSE and real-time SAS together? What happens if :: both :: programs detect the same malware threat and simultaneously attempt to :: quarantine it? Seems to me like that could be a recipe for disaster. As :: long as your two real time programs don't encounter the same threat, :: you're :: probably okay. But, if one of these days, they both encounter the same :: threat, your system could freeze up or crash because of the potential :: conflict. :: :: Gerald :: :: :: - Original Message - :: From: "Mike & Barbara In Arcadia" :: To: :: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 1:19 PM :: Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security :: Essential&otherspywareprograms :: :: :: > Hi Matthew; :: > :: > No, you don't need to stop the SAS Real Time from running. You can run :: > the :: > MSSE & SAS :: > Real Time at the same time. Hope this helps. Take care. :: > Mike :: > :: > :: > :: > - Original Message - :: > From: matthew :: > To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com :: > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 9:36 AM :: > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential :: > &otherspywareprograms :: > :: > :: > Ahh ok cool. I am running the free version of malware bites but have :: the :: > paid version of super anti spyware. Do I need to disable real time :: > protection if that is what it uses? I am going to take a look at it : but :: > any extra
[Blind-Computing] removing a virus
I am trying to help a friend remove a virus from his work computer. Avg did identify it and reported that it could not be removed because it was in memory. He did not write the name down but it is in win32. The computer can only be started in safe mode and if he lets it run it gives a message that chkdsk should be run with the f switch. That also will not run when the machine is restarted. He turn system restore off and ran avg and it did not help. He is using xp professional. He also ran kapersky and it did not help. Any quick suggestions? Thanks --- Please visit my home page, it is motivational, educational, inspirational with a touch of humor. There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind. http://www.LennyMcHugh.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential & other spyware programs
Hi, I want to thank everyone for the input concerning MSE and other spyware programs. As I understand it, I should uninstall spyware blaster since it is real time and only run SuperAntiSpyware whenever I feel the need since it will not effect MSE in its operation of spyware protection. I appreciate all the comments. Take care, Lennie At 02:26 PM 12/27/2010, you wrote: I would definitively advise against running 2 *realtime* antimalware programs at the same time. The conflicts can prove disastrous. As Andre states, the key here is realtime. The free versions of MalwareBytes & Superantispyware are not realtime. Spywareblaster is, though, as is spybott s&d. On 12/27/10, Gerald Levy wrote: > > Whoa! You're running MSE and real-time SAS together? What happens if both > programs detect the same malware threat and simultaneously attempt to > quarantine it? Seems to me like that could be a recipe for disaster. As > long as your two real time programs don't encounter the same threat, you're > probably okay. But, if one of these days, they both encounter the same > threat, your system could freeze up or crash because of the potential > conflict. > > Gerald > > > - Original Message - > From: "Mike & Barbara In Arcadia" > To: > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 1:19 PM > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security > Essential&otherspywareprograms > > >> Hi Matthew; >> >> No, you don't need to stop the SAS Real Time from running. You can run >> the >> MSSE & SAS >> Real Time at the same time. Hope this helps. Take care. >> Mike >> >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: matthew >> To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com >> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 9:36 AM >> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential >> &otherspywareprograms >> >> >> Ahh ok cool. I am running the free version of malware bites but have the >> paid version of super anti spyware. Do I need to disable real time >> protection if that is what it uses? I am going to take a look at it but >> any extra help would be great, thanks. >> >> On 12/27/2010 11:15 AM, Gerald Levy wrote: >> > >> > You can update to MSE 2.0 without first uninstalling your current >> > version. However, if you have other real-time anti-malware programs on >> > your PC, they should be removed, since they might cause conflicts with >> > MSE. However, anti-spyware programs like Malware Bytes and the free >> > version of Super Anti Spyware, which are on-demand scanners only, do >> > not have to be removed, and in fact, complement MSE very nicely. >> > Remember, the key term here is "real-time". You never want more than >> > one real-time anti-malware program on the same PC. >> > >> > Gerald >> > >> > >> > - Original Message - From: "matthew" >> >> > To: >> > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 11:35 AM >> > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential & >> > otherspywareprograms >> > >> > >> >> Someone had told me you need to uninstall a previous version of MSSE >> >> before updating it. I do know the site says to remove all other >> >> spyware programs before upgrading and i wanted to double check before >> >> I do this because it is a bit of a process. Do you need to uninstall >> >> them totally? >> >> >> >> On 12/27/2010 9:55 AM, David Ferrin wrote: >> >>> I don't use spyware blaster any longer for quite a while actually, >> >>> but I do >> >>> use the other programs you mentioned together successfully. >> >>> David Ferrin >> >>> ow...@jaws-users.com >> >>> I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that >> >>> one up >> >>> too. >> >>> - Original Message - >> >>> From: "Lennie" >> >>> To: >> >>> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 10:18 AM >> >>> Subject: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential& other >> >>> spywareprograms >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Hi, >> >>> >> >>> I just installed the latest version of MSE on my wife's laptop using >> >>> Windows XP. I have a couple of questions regarding other spyware >> >>> programs on her computer. >> >>> >> >>> She has the free version of SuperAntiSpyware and Spyware Blaster >> >>> installed on her computer. >> >>> >> >>>According to the installation of MSE, it was recommended to >> >>> uninstall all other spyware programs since I suppose that >> >>> there would be a conflict. I think there should not be any other >> >>> real time spyware running with MSE which SuperAntiSpyware is not. >> >>> However, Spyware Blaster is always running in the background. >> >>> >> >>> Does anyone know if this really cause a conflict and running MSE scan >> >>> would create a false positive? For the moment, both spyware >> >>> applications are still on her computer and I would like to know what >> >>> to do since I will be eventually installing MSE on my desktop XP >> >>> computer with the two same spyware application on it. >> >>> >> >>> Any suggestions and help will great
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Do you hold any sort of authority on this list? Andre - Original Message - From: "regilman" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing]MicrosoftSecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms Alright Stop the childness bickering. Thank You, Bob -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Andre Williams Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 5:00 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MicrosoftSecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms It was Christmas for me too and I was able to be mindful of the world around me. I don't think you get the point as this happens holiday or not so you cool it! Andre - Original Message - From: "Marilyn Walker" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 12:45 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing]MicrosoftSecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms Andre, cool it. It was Christmas Friday and Saturday unless you missed that news.So I hope you'll excuse us for not being preoccupied with mse. marilyn - Original Message - From: "Andre Williams" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 1:55 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing]MicrosoftSecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms : Guys. Why does it seem as we reinvent the wheel on this topic so much? I've : come across posts today from people oblivious to what MSE 2.0 is, why? We : had a long drawn out discussion about MSE2.0 just this past Thursday or : Friday. Those who stated they had no intensions on risking their computers : to install this upgrade are now directing people how to upgrade themselves. : It appears many others have never read any of this information at all and it : doesn't seem as they're new listers. Am I correct in assuming many read : subject fields then delete without at least reading the first couple of : lines? Seems like lots of wasted effort on behalf of the poster and those : looking for computer related information. Oh yeah, it was Don who first : alerted us to the new release of MSE 2.0. : Andre : - Original Message - : From: "Marilyn Walker" : To: : Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 11:53 AM : Subject: Re: : [Blind-Computing]MicrosoftSecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms : : : Let us know, Mike. marilyn : - Original Message - : From: "Mike & Barbara In Arcadia" : To: : Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 1:41 PM : Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] : MicrosoftSecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms : : :: Hi Gerald; :: :: Damn good point! But, my understanding is that neither MSSE or SAS : checked :: for Malware & that is why Microsoft wants you to use their Malware Bytes :: program. I need to do some more research on exactly what MSSE & SAS scan :: for. Luckily I haven't had any problems thus far! Take care. :: Mike :: :: - Original Message - :: From: Gerald Levy :: To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com :: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 11:15 AM :: Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft :: SecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms :: :: :: :: Whoa! You're running MSE and real-time SAS together? What happens if :: both :: programs detect the same malware threat and simultaneously attempt to :: quarantine it? Seems to me like that could be a recipe for disaster. As :: long as your two real time programs don't encounter the same threat, :: you're :: probably okay. But, if one of these days, they both encounter the same :: threat, your system could freeze up or crash because of the potential :: conflict. :: :: Gerald :: :: :: - Original Message - :: From: "Mike & Barbara In Arcadia" :: To: :: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 1:19 PM :: Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security :: Essential&otherspywareprograms :: :: :: > Hi Matthew; :: > :: > No, you don't need to stop the SAS Real Time from running. You can run :: > the :: > MSSE & SAS :: > Real Time at the same time. Hope this helps. Take care. :: > Mike :: > :: > :: > :: > - Original Message - :: > From: matthew :: > To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com :: > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 9:36 AM :: > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential :: > &otherspywareprograms :: > :: > :: > Ahh ok cool. I am running the free version of malware bites but have :: the :: > paid version of super anti spyware. Do I need to disable real time :: > protection if that is what it uses? I am going to take a look at it : but :: > any extra help would be great, thanks. :: > :: > On 12/27/2010 11:15 AM, Gerald Levy wrote: :: > > :: > > You can update to MSE 2.0 without first uninstalling your current :: > > version. However, if you have other real-time anti-malware programs :: on :: > > your PC, they should be removed, since they might cause conflicts :: with :: > > MSE. However, anti-spyware programs like Malware Bytes and the free :: > > version of Super Anti Spyware, which are on-demand
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Alright Stop the childness bickering. Thank You, Bob -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Andre Williams Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 5:00 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MicrosoftSecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms It was Christmas for me too and I was able to be mindful of the world around me. I don't think you get the point as this happens holiday or not so you cool it! Andre - Original Message - From: "Marilyn Walker" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 12:45 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing]MicrosoftSecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms Andre, cool it. It was Christmas Friday and Saturday unless you missed that news.So I hope you'll excuse us for not being preoccupied with mse. marilyn - Original Message - From: "Andre Williams" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 1:55 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing]MicrosoftSecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms : Guys. Why does it seem as we reinvent the wheel on this topic so much? I've : come across posts today from people oblivious to what MSE 2.0 is, why? We : had a long drawn out discussion about MSE2.0 just this past Thursday or : Friday. Those who stated they had no intensions on risking their computers : to install this upgrade are now directing people how to upgrade themselves. : It appears many others have never read any of this information at all and it : doesn't seem as they're new listers. Am I correct in assuming many read : subject fields then delete without at least reading the first couple of : lines? Seems like lots of wasted effort on behalf of the poster and those : looking for computer related information. Oh yeah, it was Don who first : alerted us to the new release of MSE 2.0. : Andre : - Original Message - : From: "Marilyn Walker" : To: : Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 11:53 AM : Subject: Re: : [Blind-Computing]MicrosoftSecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms : : : Let us know, Mike. marilyn : - Original Message - : From: "Mike & Barbara In Arcadia" : To: : Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 1:41 PM : Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] : MicrosoftSecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms : : :: Hi Gerald; :: :: Damn good point! But, my understanding is that neither MSSE or SAS : checked :: for Malware & that is why Microsoft wants you to use their Malware Bytes :: program. I need to do some more research on exactly what MSSE & SAS scan :: for. Luckily I haven't had any problems thus far! Take care. :: Mike :: :: - Original Message - :: From: Gerald Levy :: To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com :: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 11:15 AM :: Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft :: SecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms :: :: :: :: Whoa! You're running MSE and real-time SAS together? What happens if :: both :: programs detect the same malware threat and simultaneously attempt to :: quarantine it? Seems to me like that could be a recipe for disaster. As :: long as your two real time programs don't encounter the same threat, :: you're :: probably okay. But, if one of these days, they both encounter the same :: threat, your system could freeze up or crash because of the potential :: conflict. :: :: Gerald :: :: :: - Original Message - :: From: "Mike & Barbara In Arcadia" :: To: :: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 1:19 PM :: Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security :: Essential&otherspywareprograms :: :: :: > Hi Matthew; :: > :: > No, you don't need to stop the SAS Real Time from running. You can run :: > the :: > MSSE & SAS :: > Real Time at the same time. Hope this helps. Take care. :: > Mike :: > :: > :: > :: > - Original Message - :: > From: matthew :: > To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com :: > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 9:36 AM :: > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential :: > &otherspywareprograms :: > :: > :: > Ahh ok cool. I am running the free version of malware bites but have :: the :: > paid version of super anti spyware. Do I need to disable real time :: > protection if that is what it uses? I am going to take a look at it : but :: > any extra help would be great, thanks. :: > :: > On 12/27/2010 11:15 AM, Gerald Levy wrote: :: > > :: > > You can update to MSE 2.0 without first uninstalling your current :: > > version. However, if you have other real-time anti-malware programs :: on :: > > your PC, they should be removed, since they might cause conflicts :: with :: > > MSE. However, anti-spyware programs like Malware Bytes and the free :: > > version of Super Anti Spyware, which are on-demand scanners only, do :: > > not have to be removed, and in fact, complement MSE very nicely. :: > > Remember, the key term here is "real-time". You never want more : than :: > > one real-time anti-malware program on the s
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[Blind-Computing] MSSE update download link
Hi Gerald & Andre; Thank you for providing the info on the differences between Msse & SAS. For others who haven't updated MSSE yet, below is the direct download for the 2.0.6570 update. http://www.jaws-users.com/programs/AntiSpyware/MSELinks.html Hope this helps. Take care. Mike For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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It was Christmas for me too and I was able to be mindful of the world around me. I don't think you get the point as this happens holiday or not so you cool it! Andre - Original Message - From: "Marilyn Walker" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 12:45 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing]MicrosoftSecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms Andre, cool it. It was Christmas Friday and Saturday unless you missed that news.So I hope you'll excuse us for not being preoccupied with mse. marilyn - Original Message - From: "Andre Williams" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 1:55 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing]MicrosoftSecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms : Guys. Why does it seem as we reinvent the wheel on this topic so much? I've : come across posts today from people oblivious to what MSE 2.0 is, why? We : had a long drawn out discussion about MSE2.0 just this past Thursday or : Friday. Those who stated they had no intensions on risking their computers : to install this upgrade are now directing people how to upgrade themselves. : It appears many others have never read any of this information at all and it : doesn't seem as they're new listers. Am I correct in assuming many read : subject fields then delete without at least reading the first couple of : lines? Seems like lots of wasted effort on behalf of the poster and those : looking for computer related information. Oh yeah, it was Don who first : alerted us to the new release of MSE 2.0. : Andre : - Original Message - : From: "Marilyn Walker" : To: : Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 11:53 AM : Subject: Re: : [Blind-Computing]MicrosoftSecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms : : : Let us know, Mike. marilyn : - Original Message - : From: "Mike & Barbara In Arcadia" : To: : Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 1:41 PM : Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] : MicrosoftSecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms : : :: Hi Gerald; :: :: Damn good point! But, my understanding is that neither MSSE or SAS : checked :: for Malware & that is why Microsoft wants you to use their Malware Bytes :: program. I need to do some more research on exactly what MSSE & SAS scan :: for. Luckily I haven't had any problems thus far! Take care. :: Mike :: :: - Original Message - :: From: Gerald Levy :: To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com :: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 11:15 AM :: Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft :: SecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms :: :: :: :: Whoa! You're running MSE and real-time SAS together? What happens if :: both :: programs detect the same malware threat and simultaneously attempt to :: quarantine it? Seems to me like that could be a recipe for disaster. As :: long as your two real time programs don't encounter the same threat, :: you're :: probably okay. But, if one of these days, they both encounter the same :: threat, your system could freeze up or crash because of the potential :: conflict. :: :: Gerald :: :: :: - Original Message - :: From: "Mike & Barbara In Arcadia" :: To: :: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 1:19 PM :: Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security :: Essential&otherspywareprograms :: :: :: > Hi Matthew; :: > :: > No, you don't need to stop the SAS Real Time from running. You can run :: > the :: > MSSE & SAS :: > Real Time at the same time. Hope this helps. Take care. :: > Mike :: > :: > :: > :: > - Original Message - :: > From: matthew :: > To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com :: > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 9:36 AM :: > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential :: > &otherspywareprograms :: > :: > :: > Ahh ok cool. I am running the free version of malware bites but have :: the :: > paid version of super anti spyware. Do I need to disable real time :: > protection if that is what it uses? I am going to take a look at it : but :: > any extra help would be great, thanks. :: > :: > On 12/27/2010 11:15 AM, Gerald Levy wrote: :: > > :: > > You can update to MSE 2.0 without first uninstalling your current :: > > version. However, if you have other real-time anti-malware programs :: on :: > > your PC, they should be removed, since they might cause conflicts :: with :: > > MSE. However, anti-spyware programs like Malware Bytes and the free :: > > version of Super Anti Spyware, which are on-demand scanners only, do :: > > not have to be removed, and in fact, complement MSE very nicely. :: > > Remember, the key term here is "real-time". You never want more : than :: > > one real-time anti-malware program on the same PC. :: > > :: > > Gerald :: > > :: > > :: > > - Original Message - From: "matthew" :: > :: > > To: :: > > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 11:35 AM :: > > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential & :: > > otherspywareprograms :: > > :: > > :: > >> Someone had told me you need to uninstall a previous
Re: [Blind-Computing] Modem and Router Problems
Hello there; it sounds like you may need to do a router reset. if your running any of your laptops wirelessly you will need to go into the setup page and reset your wireless information. - Original Message - From: "Josh" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 2:13 PM Subject: [Blind-Computing] Modem and Router Problems Friends, I am currently connected to a neighbor's router typing this message. I am having problems connecting to the internet via my router. I have tested both the router and the modem to see if I was able to access the internet from either one; I was not able to access the internet from the desktop which is wired nor the laptop which is wireless. Being that I am unable to access the internet from the desktop I am leaning towards this being a modem problem rather than a router problem. Should this be a router proble m though does anyone have any suggestions on a wireless router? I run two laptops off the wireless router. I currently have a NetGear router that supposedly has a lifetime warranty *thats a croc*. I have to pay NetGear in order to determine if the router is in fact defective so I would kind of like to stay away from NetGear if possible since this one is only about six months old. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] Blind Tech List
Hi Steve & Shannon; Click on the link below, put subscribe in the subject field, & send. blindtech-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Hope this helps. Take care. Mike - Original Message - From: Steve & Shannon Cook To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 12:32 PM Subject: [Blind-Computing] Blind Tech List Hi All, Does anyone have the subscribe address for the Blind Tech list serve? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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Andre, cool it. It was Christmas Friday and Saturday unless you missed that news.So I hope you'll excuse us for not being preoccupied with mse. marilyn - Original Message - From: "Andre Williams" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 1:55 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing]MicrosoftSecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms : Guys. Why does it seem as we reinvent the wheel on this topic so much? I've : come across posts today from people oblivious to what MSE 2.0 is, why? We : had a long drawn out discussion about MSE2.0 just this past Thursday or : Friday. Those who stated they had no intensions on risking their computers : to install this upgrade are now directing people how to upgrade themselves. : It appears many others have never read any of this information at all and it : doesn't seem as they're new listers. Am I correct in assuming many read : subject fields then delete without at least reading the first couple of : lines? Seems like lots of wasted effort on behalf of the poster and those : looking for computer related information. Oh yeah, it was Don who first : alerted us to the new release of MSE 2.0. : Andre : - Original Message - : From: "Marilyn Walker" : To: : Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 11:53 AM : Subject: Re: : [Blind-Computing]MicrosoftSecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms : : : Let us know, Mike. marilyn : - Original Message - : From: "Mike & Barbara In Arcadia" : To: : Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 1:41 PM : Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] : MicrosoftSecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms : : :: Hi Gerald; :: :: Damn good point! But, my understanding is that neither MSSE or SAS : checked :: for Malware & that is why Microsoft wants you to use their Malware Bytes :: program. I need to do some more research on exactly what MSSE & SAS scan :: for. Luckily I haven't had any problems thus far! Take care. :: Mike :: :: - Original Message - :: From: Gerald Levy :: To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com :: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 11:15 AM :: Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft :: SecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms :: :: :: :: Whoa! You're running MSE and real-time SAS together? What happens if :: both :: programs detect the same malware threat and simultaneously attempt to :: quarantine it? Seems to me like that could be a recipe for disaster. As :: long as your two real time programs don't encounter the same threat, :: you're :: probably okay. But, if one of these days, they both encounter the same :: threat, your system could freeze up or crash because of the potential :: conflict. :: :: Gerald :: :: :: - Original Message - :: From: "Mike & Barbara In Arcadia" :: To: :: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 1:19 PM :: Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security :: Essential&otherspywareprograms :: :: :: > Hi Matthew; :: > :: > No, you don't need to stop the SAS Real Time from running. You can run :: > the :: > MSSE & SAS :: > Real Time at the same time. Hope this helps. Take care. :: > Mike :: > :: > :: > :: > - Original Message - :: > From: matthew :: > To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com :: > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 9:36 AM :: > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential :: > &otherspywareprograms :: > :: > :: > Ahh ok cool. I am running the free version of malware bites but have :: the :: > paid version of super anti spyware. Do I need to disable real time :: > protection if that is what it uses? I am going to take a look at it : but :: > any extra help would be great, thanks. :: > :: > On 12/27/2010 11:15 AM, Gerald Levy wrote: :: > > :: > > You can update to MSE 2.0 without first uninstalling your current :: > > version. However, if you have other real-time anti-malware programs :: on :: > > your PC, they should be removed, since they might cause conflicts :: with :: > > MSE. However, anti-spyware programs like Malware Bytes and the free :: > > version of Super Anti Spyware, which are on-demand scanners only, do :: > > not have to be removed, and in fact, complement MSE very nicely. :: > > Remember, the key term here is "real-time". You never want more : than :: > > one real-time anti-malware program on the same PC. :: > > :: > > Gerald :: > > :: > > :: > > - Original Message - From: "matthew" :: > :: > > To: :: > > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 11:35 AM :: > > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential & :: > > otherspywareprograms :: > > :: > > :: > >> Someone had told me you need to uninstall a previous version of : MSSE :: > >> before updating it. I do know the site says to remove all other :: > >> spyware programs before upgrading and i wanted to double check :: before :: > >> I do this because it is a bit of a process. Do you need to : uninstall :: > >> them totally? :: > >> :: > >> On 12/27/2010 9:55 AM, David Ferrin wrot
[Blind-Computing] MSSE and super anti spyware
In light of what others have been saying on the subject I checked my super anti spyware. I do have the paid version and noticed real time protection was on. I have been using both simultaneously MSSE and paid SAS, and have had no problems whatsoever. This has been so for over a year now. I did however turn off the real time protection for SAS. Now I will just use it for MSSE. Thanks again to all for the help and information. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] Modem and Router Problems
Hi I had a net gear router. It had a tiny hole on the back with a reset button in it. One needs something small like the tip of a pen to press the button and reset the router. Other wise it probably won't let you access the internet. Just my experience. God bless, Mark -- Currently in Pendleton, Eastern Oregon Regional At Pendleton, Oregon Mostly Clear, 43.0°F(6.1°C) Wind:SSW (200°) at 9mph (8KT) * Work is for people who don't know how to fish. Created by Weather Signature v1.30 • http://www.weathersig.com God loves you! My website HTTP://WWW.CHRISTIANTRADITIONS.INFO Please Join my prayer list at http://christiantraditions.info/mailman/listinfo/prayerlist_christiantraditions.info For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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According to Microsoft, MSE detects spyware as well as viruses. s SAS detects spyware only. Obviously, if both programs were to detect the same spyware threat, you could have a real problem. The free version of SAS and Malware Bytes, on the other hand, are scanners only and do not offer real time protection, so they are safe to use in conjunction with MSE. Gerald - Original Message - From: "Mike & Barbara In Arcadia" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 2:41 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft SecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms Hi Gerald; Damn good point! But, my understanding is that neither MSSE or SAS checked for Malware & that is why Microsoft wants you to use their Malware Bytes program. I need to do some more research on exactly what MSSE & SAS scan for. Luckily I haven't had any problems thus far! Take care. Mike - Original Message - From: Gerald Levy To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 11:15 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft SecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms Whoa! You're running MSE and real-time SAS together? What happens if both programs detect the same malware threat and simultaneously attempt to quarantine it? Seems to me like that could be a recipe for disaster. As long as your two real time programs don't encounter the same threat, you're probably okay. But, if one of these days, they both encounter the same threat, your system could freeze up or crash because of the potential conflict. Gerald - Original Message - From: "Mike & Barbara In Arcadia" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 1:19 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential&otherspywareprograms > Hi Matthew; > > No, you don't need to stop the SAS Real Time from running. You can run > the > MSSE & SAS > Real Time at the same time. Hope this helps. Take care. > Mike > > > > - Original Message - > From: matthew > To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 9:36 AM > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential > &otherspywareprograms > > > Ahh ok cool. I am running the free version of malware bites but have the > paid version of super anti spyware. Do I need to disable real time > protection if that is what it uses? I am going to take a look at it but > any extra help would be great, thanks. > > On 12/27/2010 11:15 AM, Gerald Levy wrote: > > > > You can update to MSE 2.0 without first uninstalling your current > > version. However, if you have other real-time anti-malware programs on > > your PC, they should be removed, since they might cause conflicts with > > MSE. However, anti-spyware programs like Malware Bytes and the free > > version of Super Anti Spyware, which are on-demand scanners only, do > > not have to be removed, and in fact, complement MSE very nicely. > > Remember, the key term here is "real-time". You never want more than > > one real-time anti-malware program on the same PC. > > > > Gerald > > > > > > - Original Message - From: "matthew" > > > To: > > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 11:35 AM > > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential & > > otherspywareprograms > > > > > >> Someone had told me you need to uninstall a previous version of MSSE > >> before updating it. I do know the site says to remove all other > >> spyware programs before upgrading and i wanted to double check before > >> I do this because it is a bit of a process. Do you need to uninstall > >> them totally? > >> > >> On 12/27/2010 9:55 AM, David Ferrin wrote: > >>> I don't use spyware blaster any longer for quite a while actually, > >>> but I do > >>> use the other programs you mentioned together successfully. > >>> David Ferrin > >>> ow...@jaws-users.com > >>> I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that > >>> one up > >>> too. > >>> - Original Message - > >>> From: "Lennie" > >>> To: > >>> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 10:18 AM > >>> Subject: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential& other > >>> spywareprograms > >>> > >>> > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> I just installed the latest version of MSE on my wife's laptop using > >>> Windows XP. I have a couple of questions regarding other spyware > >>> programs on her computer. > >>> > >>> She has the free version of SuperAntiSpyware and Spyware Blaster > >>> installed on her computer. > >>> > >>>According to the installation of MSE, it was recommended to > >>> uninstall all other spyware programs since I suppose that > >>> there would be a conflict. I think there should not be any other > >>> real time spyware running with MSE which SuperAntiSpyware is not. > >>> However, Spyware Blaster is always running in the background. > >>> > >>> Does anyone know if this r
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If memory serves, an update icon should appear in the System Tray. I'm not sure whether MSE updates itself automatically. Gerald - Original Message - From: "Marilyn Walker" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 2:01 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft SecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms So, if we don't do anything, it will update without our "help"? - Original Message - From: "Gerald Levy" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 12:55 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft SecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms : : MSE 2.0 was released last Wednesday. Eventually, it will be released as an : update to MSE 1.0. : : Gerald : : : - Original Message - : From: "Alan Robbins" : To: : Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 1:30 PM : Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security : Essential&otherspywareprograms : : : > So MSE doesn't automatically update itself to the new : > version when doing updates? How did folks find out a new : > version was out? Any new bells & whistles? : > : > Al : > : > -Original Message- : > From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com : > [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com]on Behalf Of : > David Ferrin : > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 1:05 PM : > To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com : > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential : > &otherspywareprograms : > : > : > Let's put it this way, I didn't myself and everything is : > working fine. : > David Ferrin : > ow...@jaws-users.com : > I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably : > screw that one up : > too. : > - Original Message - : > From: "matthew" : > To: : > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 11:35 AM : > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential : > & : > otherspywareprograms : > : > : > Someone had told me you need to uninstall a previous version : > of MSSE : > before updating it. I do know the site says to remove all : > other spyware : > programs before upgrading and i wanted to double check : > before I do this : > because it is a bit of a process. Do you need to uninstall : > them totally? : > : > On 12/27/2010 9:55 AM, David Ferrin wrote: : >> I don't use spyware blaster any longer for quite a while : > actually, but I : >> do : >> use the other programs you mentioned together : > successfully. : >> David Ferrin : >> ow...@jaws-users.com : >> I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably : > screw that one : >> up : >> too. : >> - Original Message - : >> From: "Lennie" : >> To: : >> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 10:18 AM : >> Subject: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential& : > other : >> spywareprograms : >> : >> : >> Hi, : >> : >> I just installed the latest version of MSE on my wife's : > laptop using : >> Windows XP. I have a couple of questions regarding other : > spyware : >> programs on her computer. : >> : >> She has the free version of SuperAntiSpyware and Spyware : > Blaster : >> installed on her computer. : >> : >>According to the installation of MSE, it was : > recommended to : >> uninstall all other spyware programs since I suppose that : >> there would be a conflict. I think there should not be : > any other : >> real time spyware running with MSE which SuperAntiSpyware : > is not. : >> However, Spyware Blaster is always running in the : > background. : >> : >> Does anyone know if this really cause a conflict and : > running MSE scan : >> would create a false positive? For the moment, both : > spyware : >> applications are still on her computer and I would like to : > know what : >> to do since I will be eventually installing MSE on my : > desktop XP : >> computer with the two same spyware application on it. : >> : >> Any suggestions and help will greatly be appreciated. : > Thanks and take : >> care. : >> : >> Happy New Year to everyone! : >> : >> Lennie : >> : >> : >> : >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list : > visit: : >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ : >> : >> : >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list : > visit: : >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ : > : > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list : > visit: : > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ : > : > : > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list : > visit: : > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ : > : > : > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ : : : For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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Guys. Why does it seem as we reinvent the wheel on this topic so much? I've come across posts today from people oblivious to what MSE 2.0 is, why? We had a long drawn out discussion about MSE2.0 just this past Thursday or Friday. Those who stated they had no intensions on risking their computers to install this upgrade are now directing people how to upgrade themselves. It appears many others have never read any of this information at all and it doesn't seem as they're new listers. Am I correct in assuming many read subject fields then delete without at least reading the first couple of lines? Seems like lots of wasted effort on behalf of the poster and those looking for computer related information. Oh yeah, it was Don who first alerted us to the new release of MSE 2.0. Andre - Original Message - From: "Marilyn Walker" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 11:53 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing]MicrosoftSecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms Let us know, Mike. marilyn - Original Message - From: "Mike & Barbara In Arcadia" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 1:41 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MicrosoftSecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms : Hi Gerald; : : Damn good point! But, my understanding is that neither MSSE or SAS checked : for Malware & that is why Microsoft wants you to use their Malware Bytes : program. I need to do some more research on exactly what MSSE & SAS scan : for. Luckily I haven't had any problems thus far! Take care. : Mike : : - Original Message - : From: Gerald Levy : To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com : Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 11:15 AM : Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft : SecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms : : : : Whoa! You're running MSE and real-time SAS together? What happens if : both : programs detect the same malware threat and simultaneously attempt to : quarantine it? Seems to me like that could be a recipe for disaster. As : long as your two real time programs don't encounter the same threat, : you're : probably okay. But, if one of these days, they both encounter the same : threat, your system could freeze up or crash because of the potential : conflict. : : Gerald : : : - Original Message - : From: "Mike & Barbara In Arcadia" : To: : Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 1:19 PM : Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security : Essential&otherspywareprograms : : : > Hi Matthew; : > : > No, you don't need to stop the SAS Real Time from running. You can run : > the : > MSSE & SAS : > Real Time at the same time. Hope this helps. Take care. : > Mike : > : > : > : > - Original Message - : > From: matthew : > To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com : > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 9:36 AM : > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential : > &otherspywareprograms : > : > : > Ahh ok cool. I am running the free version of malware bites but have : the : > paid version of super anti spyware. Do I need to disable real time : > protection if that is what it uses? I am going to take a look at it but : > any extra help would be great, thanks. : > : > On 12/27/2010 11:15 AM, Gerald Levy wrote: : > > : > > You can update to MSE 2.0 without first uninstalling your current : > > version. However, if you have other real-time anti-malware programs : on : > > your PC, they should be removed, since they might cause conflicts : with : > > MSE. However, anti-spyware programs like Malware Bytes and the free : > > version of Super Anti Spyware, which are on-demand scanners only, do : > > not have to be removed, and in fact, complement MSE very nicely. : > > Remember, the key term here is "real-time". You never want more than : > > one real-time anti-malware program on the same PC. : > > : > > Gerald : > > : > > : > > - Original Message - From: "matthew" : > : > > To: : > > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 11:35 AM : > > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential & : > > otherspywareprograms : > > : > > : > >> Someone had told me you need to uninstall a previous version of MSSE : > >> before updating it. I do know the site says to remove all other : > >> spyware programs before upgrading and i wanted to double check : before : > >> I do this because it is a bit of a process. Do you need to uninstall : > >> them totally? : > >> : > >> On 12/27/2010 9:55 AM, David Ferrin wrote: : > >>> I don't use spyware blaster any longer for quite a while actually, : > >>> but I do : > >>> use the other programs you mentioned together successfully. : > >>> David Ferrin : > >>> ow...@jaws-users.com : > >>> I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw : that : > >>> one up : > >>> too. : > >>> - Original Message - : > >>> From: "Lennie" : > >>> To: : > >>> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 10:18 AM : > >>> Subject: [Bli
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Mike. From the Wikipedia article on MSE: Microsoft Security Essentials (MSE) is a free antivirus software product created by Microsoft that provides protection against different types of malware such as computer virus, spyware, rootkits and trojan horses for Windows XP (x86[4]), Windows Vista, and Windows 7 (both x86 and x64).[4][5] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Security_Essentials Andre - Original Message - From: "Mike & Barbara In Arcadia" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 11:41 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MicrosoftSecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms Hi Gerald; Damn good point! But, my understanding is that neither MSSE or SAS checked for Malware & that is why Microsoft wants you to use their Malware Bytes program. I need to do some more research on exactly what MSSE & SAS scan for. Luckily I haven't had any problems thus far! Take care. Mike - Original Message - From: Gerald Levy To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 11:15 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft SecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms Whoa! You're running MSE and real-time SAS together? What happens if both programs detect the same malware threat and simultaneously attempt to quarantine it? Seems to me like that could be a recipe for disaster. As long as your two real time programs don't encounter the same threat, you're probably okay. But, if one of these days, they both encounter the same threat, your system could freeze up or crash because of the potential conflict. Gerald - Original Message - From: "Mike & Barbara In Arcadia" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 1:19 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential&otherspywareprograms > Hi Matthew; > > No, you don't need to stop the SAS Real Time from running. You can run > the > MSSE & SAS > Real Time at the same time. Hope this helps. Take care. > Mike > > > > - Original Message - > From: matthew > To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 9:36 AM > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential > &otherspywareprograms > > > Ahh ok cool. I am running the free version of malware bites but have the > paid version of super anti spyware. Do I need to disable real time > protection if that is what it uses? I am going to take a look at it but > any extra help would be great, thanks. > > On 12/27/2010 11:15 AM, Gerald Levy wrote: > > > > You can update to MSE 2.0 without first uninstalling your current > > version. However, if you have other real-time anti-malware programs on > > your PC, they should be removed, since they might cause conflicts with > > MSE. However, anti-spyware programs like Malware Bytes and the free > > version of Super Anti Spyware, which are on-demand scanners only, do > > not have to be removed, and in fact, complement MSE very nicely. > > Remember, the key term here is "real-time". You never want more than > > one real-time anti-malware program on the same PC. > > > > Gerald > > > > > > - Original Message - From: "matthew" > > > To: > > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 11:35 AM > > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential & > > otherspywareprograms > > > > > >> Someone had told me you need to uninstall a previous version of MSSE > >> before updating it. I do know the site says to remove all other > >> spyware programs before upgrading and i wanted to double check before > >> I do this because it is a bit of a process. Do you need to uninstall > >> them totally? > >> > >> On 12/27/2010 9:55 AM, David Ferrin wrote: > >>> I don't use spyware blaster any longer for quite a while actually, > >>> but I do > >>> use the other programs you mentioned together successfully. > >>> David Ferrin > >>> ow...@jaws-users.com > >>> I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that > >>> one up > >>> too. > >>> - Original Message - > >>> From: "Lennie" > >>> To: > >>> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 10:18 AM > >>> Subject: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential& other > >>> spywareprograms > >>> > >>> > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> I just installed the latest version of MSE on my wife's laptop using > >>> Windows XP. I have a couple of questions regarding other spyware > >>> programs on her computer. > >>> > >>> She has the free version of SuperAntiSpyware and Spyware Blaster > >>> installed on her computer. > >>> > >>>According to the installation of MSE, it was recommended to > >>> uninstall all other spyware programs since I suppose that > >>> there would be a conflict. I think there should not be any other > >>> real time spyware running with MSE which SuperAntiSpyware is not. >
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Let us know, Mike. marilyn - Original Message - From: "Mike & Barbara In Arcadia" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 1:41 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MicrosoftSecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms : Hi Gerald; : : Damn good point! But, my understanding is that neither MSSE or SAS checked : for Malware & that is why Microsoft wants you to use their Malware Bytes : program. I need to do some more research on exactly what MSSE & SAS scan : for. Luckily I haven't had any problems thus far! Take care. : Mike : : - Original Message - : From: Gerald Levy : To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com : Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 11:15 AM : Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft : SecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms : : : : Whoa! You're running MSE and real-time SAS together? What happens if : both : programs detect the same malware threat and simultaneously attempt to : quarantine it? Seems to me like that could be a recipe for disaster. As : long as your two real time programs don't encounter the same threat, : you're : probably okay. But, if one of these days, they both encounter the same : threat, your system could freeze up or crash because of the potential : conflict. : : Gerald : : : - Original Message - : From: "Mike & Barbara In Arcadia" : To: : Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 1:19 PM : Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security : Essential&otherspywareprograms : : : > Hi Matthew; : > : > No, you don't need to stop the SAS Real Time from running. You can run : > the : > MSSE & SAS : > Real Time at the same time. Hope this helps. Take care. : > Mike : > : > : > : > - Original Message - : > From: matthew : > To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com : > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 9:36 AM : > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential : > &otherspywareprograms : > : > : > Ahh ok cool. I am running the free version of malware bites but have : the : > paid version of super anti spyware. Do I need to disable real time : > protection if that is what it uses? I am going to take a look at it but : > any extra help would be great, thanks. : > : > On 12/27/2010 11:15 AM, Gerald Levy wrote: : > > : > > You can update to MSE 2.0 without first uninstalling your current : > > version. However, if you have other real-time anti-malware programs : on : > > your PC, they should be removed, since they might cause conflicts : with : > > MSE. However, anti-spyware programs like Malware Bytes and the free : > > version of Super Anti Spyware, which are on-demand scanners only, do : > > not have to be removed, and in fact, complement MSE very nicely. : > > Remember, the key term here is "real-time". You never want more than : > > one real-time anti-malware program on the same PC. : > > : > > Gerald : > > : > > : > > - Original Message - From: "matthew" : > : > > To: : > > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 11:35 AM : > > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential & : > > otherspywareprograms : > > : > > : > >> Someone had told me you need to uninstall a previous version of MSSE : > >> before updating it. I do know the site says to remove all other : > >> spyware programs before upgrading and i wanted to double check : before : > >> I do this because it is a bit of a process. Do you need to uninstall : > >> them totally? : > >> : > >> On 12/27/2010 9:55 AM, David Ferrin wrote: : > >>> I don't use spyware blaster any longer for quite a while actually, : > >>> but I do : > >>> use the other programs you mentioned together successfully. : > >>> David Ferrin : > >>> ow...@jaws-users.com : > >>> I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw : that : > >>> one up : > >>> too. : > >>> - Original Message - : > >>> From: "Lennie" : > >>> To: : > >>> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 10:18 AM : > >>> Subject: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential& other : > >>> spywareprograms : > >>> : > >>> : > >>> Hi, : > >>> : > >>> I just installed the latest version of MSE on my wife's laptop : using : > >>> Windows XP. I have a couple of questions regarding other spyware : > >>> programs on her computer. : > >>> : > >>> She has the free version of SuperAntiSpyware and Spyware Blaster : > >>> installed on her computer. : > >>> : > >>>According to the installation of MSE, it was recommended to : > >>> uninstall all other spyware programs since I suppose that : > >>> there would be a conflict. I think there should not be any other : > >>> real time spyware running with MSE which SuperAntiSpyware is not. : > >>> However, Spyware Blaster is always running in the background. : > >>> : > >>> Does anyone know if this really cause a conflict and running MSE : scan : > >>> would create a false positive? For the moment, both spyware :
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Hi Gerald; Damn good point! But, my understanding is that neither MSSE or SAS checked for Malware & that is why Microsoft wants you to use their Malware Bytes program. I need to do some more research on exactly what MSSE & SAS scan for. Luckily I haven't had any problems thus far! Take care. Mike - Original Message - From: Gerald Levy To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 11:15 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft SecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms Whoa! You're running MSE and real-time SAS together? What happens if both programs detect the same malware threat and simultaneously attempt to quarantine it? Seems to me like that could be a recipe for disaster. As long as your two real time programs don't encounter the same threat, you're probably okay. But, if one of these days, they both encounter the same threat, your system could freeze up or crash because of the potential conflict. Gerald - Original Message - From: "Mike & Barbara In Arcadia" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 1:19 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential&otherspywareprograms > Hi Matthew; > > No, you don't need to stop the SAS Real Time from running. You can run > the > MSSE & SAS > Real Time at the same time. Hope this helps. Take care. > Mike > > > > - Original Message - > From: matthew > To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 9:36 AM > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential > &otherspywareprograms > > > Ahh ok cool. I am running the free version of malware bites but have the > paid version of super anti spyware. Do I need to disable real time > protection if that is what it uses? I am going to take a look at it but > any extra help would be great, thanks. > > On 12/27/2010 11:15 AM, Gerald Levy wrote: > > > > You can update to MSE 2.0 without first uninstalling your current > > version. However, if you have other real-time anti-malware programs on > > your PC, they should be removed, since they might cause conflicts with > > MSE. However, anti-spyware programs like Malware Bytes and the free > > version of Super Anti Spyware, which are on-demand scanners only, do > > not have to be removed, and in fact, complement MSE very nicely. > > Remember, the key term here is "real-time". You never want more than > > one real-time anti-malware program on the same PC. > > > > Gerald > > > > > > - Original Message - From: "matthew" > > > To: > > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 11:35 AM > > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential & > > otherspywareprograms > > > > > >> Someone had told me you need to uninstall a previous version of MSSE > >> before updating it. I do know the site says to remove all other > >> spyware programs before upgrading and i wanted to double check before > >> I do this because it is a bit of a process. Do you need to uninstall > >> them totally? > >> > >> On 12/27/2010 9:55 AM, David Ferrin wrote: > >>> I don't use spyware blaster any longer for quite a while actually, > >>> but I do > >>> use the other programs you mentioned together successfully. > >>> David Ferrin > >>> ow...@jaws-users.com > >>> I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that > >>> one up > >>> too. > >>> - Original Message - > >>> From: "Lennie" > >>> To: > >>> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 10:18 AM > >>> Subject: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential& other > >>> spywareprograms > >>> > >>> > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> I just installed the latest version of MSE on my wife's laptop using > >>> Windows XP. I have a couple of questions regarding other spyware > >>> programs on her computer. > >>> > >>> She has the free version of SuperAntiSpyware and Spyware Blaster > >>> installed on her computer. > >>> > >>>According to the installation of MSE, it was recommended to > >>> uninstall all other spyware programs since I suppose that > >>> there would be a conflict. I think there should not be any other > >>> real time spyware running with MSE which SuperAntiSpyware is not. > >>> However, Spyware Blaster is always running in the background. > >>> > >>> Does anyone know if this really cause a conflict and running MSE scan > >>> would create a false positive? For the moment, both spyware > >>> applications are still on her computer and I would like to know what > >>> to do since I will be eventually installing MSE on my desktop XP > >>> computer with the two same spyware application on it. > >>> > >>> Any suggestions and help will greatly be appreciated. Thanks and > >>> take care. > >>> > >>> Happy New Year to ever
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Ping the router. Or, alternatively, if u have a 2nd pc, try accessing it on the network. On 12/27/10, Josh wrote: > Friends, > I am currently connected to a neighbor's router typing this message. I am > having problems connecting to the internet via my router. I have tested both > the router and the modem to see if I was able to access the internet from > either one; I was not able to access the internet from the desktop which is > wired nor the laptop which is wireless. Being that I am unable to access the > internet from the desktop I am leaning towards this being a modem problem > rather than a router problem. Should this be a router problem though does > anyone have any suggestions on a wireless router? I run two laptops off the > wireless router. I currently have a NetGear router that supposedly has a > lifetime warranty *thats a croc*. I have to pay NetGear in order to > determine if the router is in fact defective so I would kind of like to stay > away from NetGear if possible since this one is only about six months old. > Any advice would be greatly appreciated. > > > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > -- Change the world--1 deed at a time Jackie McBride Scripting Classes: http://jawsscripting.lonsdalemedia.org homePage: www.abletec.serverheaven.net For technophobes: www.technophoeb.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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I would definitively advise against running 2 *realtime* antimalware programs at the same time. The conflicts can prove disastrous. As Andre states, the key here is realtime. The free versions of MalwareBytes & Superantispyware are not realtime. Spywareblaster is, though, as is spybott s&d. On 12/27/10, Gerald Levy wrote: > > Whoa! You're running MSE and real-time SAS together? What happens if both > programs detect the same malware threat and simultaneously attempt to > quarantine it? Seems to me like that could be a recipe for disaster. As > long as your two real time programs don't encounter the same threat, you're > probably okay. But, if one of these days, they both encounter the same > threat, your system could freeze up or crash because of the potential > conflict. > > Gerald > > > - Original Message - > From: "Mike & Barbara In Arcadia" > To: > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 1:19 PM > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security > Essential&otherspywareprograms > > >> Hi Matthew; >> >> No, you don't need to stop the SAS Real Time from running. You can run >> the >> MSSE & SAS >> Real Time at the same time. Hope this helps. Take care. >> Mike >> >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: matthew >> To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com >> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 9:36 AM >> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential >> &otherspywareprograms >> >> >> Ahh ok cool. I am running the free version of malware bites but have the >> paid version of super anti spyware. Do I need to disable real time >> protection if that is what it uses? I am going to take a look at it but >> any extra help would be great, thanks. >> >> On 12/27/2010 11:15 AM, Gerald Levy wrote: >> > >> > You can update to MSE 2.0 without first uninstalling your current >> > version. However, if you have other real-time anti-malware programs on >> > your PC, they should be removed, since they might cause conflicts with >> > MSE. However, anti-spyware programs like Malware Bytes and the free >> > version of Super Anti Spyware, which are on-demand scanners only, do >> > not have to be removed, and in fact, complement MSE very nicely. >> > Remember, the key term here is "real-time". You never want more than >> > one real-time anti-malware program on the same PC. >> > >> > Gerald >> > >> > >> > - Original Message - From: "matthew" >> >> > To: >> > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 11:35 AM >> > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential & >> > otherspywareprograms >> > >> > >> >> Someone had told me you need to uninstall a previous version of MSSE >> >> before updating it. I do know the site says to remove all other >> >> spyware programs before upgrading and i wanted to double check before >> >> I do this because it is a bit of a process. Do you need to uninstall >> >> them totally? >> >> >> >> On 12/27/2010 9:55 AM, David Ferrin wrote: >> >>> I don't use spyware blaster any longer for quite a while actually, >> >>> but I do >> >>> use the other programs you mentioned together successfully. >> >>> David Ferrin >> >>> ow...@jaws-users.com >> >>> I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that >> >>> one up >> >>> too. >> >>> - Original Message - >> >>> From: "Lennie" >> >>> To: >> >>> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 10:18 AM >> >>> Subject: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential& other >> >>> spywareprograms >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Hi, >> >>> >> >>> I just installed the latest version of MSE on my wife's laptop using >> >>> Windows XP. I have a couple of questions regarding other spyware >> >>> programs on her computer. >> >>> >> >>> She has the free version of SuperAntiSpyware and Spyware Blaster >> >>> installed on her computer. >> >>> >> >>>According to the installation of MSE, it was recommended to >> >>> uninstall all other spyware programs since I suppose that >> >>> there would be a conflict. I think there should not be any other >> >>> real time spyware running with MSE which SuperAntiSpyware is not. >> >>> However, Spyware Blaster is always running in the background. >> >>> >> >>> Does anyone know if this really cause a conflict and running MSE scan >> >>> would create a false positive? For the moment, both spyware >> >>> applications are still on her computer and I would like to know what >> >>> to do since I will be eventually installing MSE on my desktop XP >> >>> computer with the two same spyware application on it. >> >>> >> >>> Any suggestions and help will greatly be appreciated. Thanks and >> >>> take care. >> >>> >> >>> Happy New Year to everyone! >> >>> >> >>> Lennie >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >> >>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >> >>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >>
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Whoa! You're running MSE and real-time SAS together? What happens if both programs detect the same malware threat and simultaneously attempt to quarantine it? Seems to me like that could be a recipe for disaster. As long as your two real time programs don't encounter the same threat, you're probably okay. But, if one of these days, they both encounter the same threat, your system could freeze up or crash because of the potential conflict. Gerald - Original Message - From: "Mike & Barbara In Arcadia" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 1:19 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential&otherspywareprograms Hi Matthew; No, you don't need to stop the SAS Real Time from running. You can run the MSSE & SAS Real Time at the same time. Hope this helps. Take care. Mike - Original Message - From: matthew To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential &otherspywareprograms Ahh ok cool. I am running the free version of malware bites but have the paid version of super anti spyware. Do I need to disable real time protection if that is what it uses? I am going to take a look at it but any extra help would be great, thanks. On 12/27/2010 11:15 AM, Gerald Levy wrote: > > You can update to MSE 2.0 without first uninstalling your current > version. However, if you have other real-time anti-malware programs on > your PC, they should be removed, since they might cause conflicts with > MSE. However, anti-spyware programs like Malware Bytes and the free > version of Super Anti Spyware, which are on-demand scanners only, do > not have to be removed, and in fact, complement MSE very nicely. > Remember, the key term here is "real-time". You never want more than > one real-time anti-malware program on the same PC. > > Gerald > > > - Original Message - From: "matthew" > To: > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 11:35 AM > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential & > otherspywareprograms > > >> Someone had told me you need to uninstall a previous version of MSSE >> before updating it. I do know the site says to remove all other >> spyware programs before upgrading and i wanted to double check before >> I do this because it is a bit of a process. Do you need to uninstall >> them totally? >> >> On 12/27/2010 9:55 AM, David Ferrin wrote: >>> I don't use spyware blaster any longer for quite a while actually, >>> but I do >>> use the other programs you mentioned together successfully. >>> David Ferrin >>> ow...@jaws-users.com >>> I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that >>> one up >>> too. >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Lennie" >>> To: >>> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 10:18 AM >>> Subject: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential& other >>> spywareprograms >>> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I just installed the latest version of MSE on my wife's laptop using >>> Windows XP. I have a couple of questions regarding other spyware >>> programs on her computer. >>> >>> She has the free version of SuperAntiSpyware and Spyware Blaster >>> installed on her computer. >>> >>>According to the installation of MSE, it was recommended to >>> uninstall all other spyware programs since I suppose that >>> there would be a conflict. I think there should not be any other >>> real time spyware running with MSE which SuperAntiSpyware is not. >>> However, Spyware Blaster is always running in the background. >>> >>> Does anyone know if this really cause a conflict and running MSE scan >>> would create a false positive? For the moment, both spyware >>> applications are still on her computer and I would like to know what >>> to do since I will be eventually installing MSE on my desktop XP >>> computer with the two same spyware application on it. >>> >>> Any suggestions and help will greatly be appreciated. Thanks and >>> take care. >>> >>> Happy New Year to everyone! >>> >>> Lennie >>> >>> >>> >>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >>> >>> >>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >> >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[Blind-Computing] Modem and Router Problems
Friends, I am currently connected to a neighbor's router typing this message. I am having problems connecting to the internet via my router. I have tested both the router and the modem to see if I was able to access the internet from either one; I was not able to access the internet from the desktop which is wired nor the laptop which is wireless. Being that I am unable to access the internet from the desktop I am leaning towards this being a modem problem rather than a router problem. Should this be a router problem though does anyone have any suggestions on a wireless router? I run two laptops off the wireless router. I currently have a NetGear router that supposedly has a lifetime warranty *thats a croc*. I have to pay NetGear in order to determine if the router is in fact defective so I would kind of like to stay away from NetGear if possible since this one is only about six months old. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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So, if we don't do anything, it will update without our "help"? - Original Message - From: "Gerald Levy" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 12:55 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft SecurityEssential&otherspywareprograms : : MSE 2.0 was released last Wednesday. Eventually, it will be released as an : update to MSE 1.0. : : Gerald : : : - Original Message - : From: "Alan Robbins" : To: : Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 1:30 PM : Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security : Essential&otherspywareprograms : : : > So MSE doesn't automatically update itself to the new : > version when doing updates? How did folks find out a new : > version was out? Any new bells & whistles? : > : > Al : > : > -Original Message- : > From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com : > [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com]on Behalf Of : > David Ferrin : > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 1:05 PM : > To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com : > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential : > &otherspywareprograms : > : > : > Let's put it this way, I didn't myself and everything is : > working fine. : > David Ferrin : > ow...@jaws-users.com : > I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably : > screw that one up : > too. : > - Original Message - : > From: "matthew" : > To: : > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 11:35 AM : > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential : > & : > otherspywareprograms : > : > : > Someone had told me you need to uninstall a previous version : > of MSSE : > before updating it. I do know the site says to remove all : > other spyware : > programs before upgrading and i wanted to double check : > before I do this : > because it is a bit of a process. Do you need to uninstall : > them totally? : > : > On 12/27/2010 9:55 AM, David Ferrin wrote: : >> I don't use spyware blaster any longer for quite a while : > actually, but I : >> do : >> use the other programs you mentioned together : > successfully. : >> David Ferrin : >> ow...@jaws-users.com : >> I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably : > screw that one : >> up : >> too. : >> - Original Message - : >> From: "Lennie" : >> To: : >> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 10:18 AM : >> Subject: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential& : > other : >> spywareprograms : >> : >> : >> Hi, : >> : >> I just installed the latest version of MSE on my wife's : > laptop using : >> Windows XP. I have a couple of questions regarding other : > spyware : >> programs on her computer. : >> : >> She has the free version of SuperAntiSpyware and Spyware : > Blaster : >> installed on her computer. : >> : >>According to the installation of MSE, it was : > recommended to : >> uninstall all other spyware programs since I suppose that : >> there would be a conflict. I think there should not be : > any other : >> real time spyware running with MSE which SuperAntiSpyware : > is not. : >> However, Spyware Blaster is always running in the : > background. : >> : >> Does anyone know if this really cause a conflict and : > running MSE scan : >> would create a false positive? For the moment, both : > spyware : >> applications are still on her computer and I would like to : > know what : >> to do since I will be eventually installing MSE on my : > desktop XP : >> computer with the two same spyware application on it. : >> : >> Any suggestions and help will greatly be appreciated. : > Thanks and take : >> care. : >> : >> Happy New Year to everyone! : >> : >> Lennie : >> : >> : >> : >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list : > visit: : >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ : >> : >> : >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list : > visit: : >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ : > : > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list : > visit: : > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ : > : > : > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list : > visit: : > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ : > : > : > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ : : : For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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MSE 2.0 was released last Wednesday. Eventually, it will be released as an update to MSE 1.0. Gerald - Original Message - From: "Alan Robbins" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential&otherspywareprograms So MSE doesn't automatically update itself to the new version when doing updates? How did folks find out a new version was out? Any new bells & whistles? Al -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com]on Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 1:05 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential &otherspywareprograms Let's put it this way, I didn't myself and everything is working fine. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one up too. - Original Message - From: "matthew" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 11:35 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential & otherspywareprograms Someone had told me you need to uninstall a previous version of MSSE before updating it. I do know the site says to remove all other spyware programs before upgrading and i wanted to double check before I do this because it is a bit of a process. Do you need to uninstall them totally? On 12/27/2010 9:55 AM, David Ferrin wrote: I don't use spyware blaster any longer for quite a while actually, but I do use the other programs you mentioned together successfully. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one up too. - Original Message - From: "Lennie" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 10:18 AM Subject: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential& other spywareprograms Hi, I just installed the latest version of MSE on my wife's laptop using Windows XP. I have a couple of questions regarding other spyware programs on her computer. She has the free version of SuperAntiSpyware and Spyware Blaster installed on her computer. According to the installation of MSE, it was recommended to uninstall all other spyware programs since I suppose that there would be a conflict. I think there should not be any other real time spyware running with MSE which SuperAntiSpyware is not. However, Spyware Blaster is always running in the background. Does anyone know if this really cause a conflict and running MSE scan would create a false positive? For the moment, both spyware applications are still on her computer and I would like to know what to do since I will be eventually installing MSE on my desktop XP computer with the two same spyware application on it. Any suggestions and help will greatly be appreciated. Thanks and take care. Happy New Year to everyone! Lennie For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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Bill called me up so I could let the list know. Honestly I don't recall but if you choose to believe the first line in this message that's all right with me. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one up too. - Original Message - From: "Alan Robbins" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential&otherspywareprograms So MSE doesn't automatically update itself to the new version when doing updates? How did folks find out a new version was out? Any new bells & whistles? Al -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com]on Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 1:05 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential &otherspywareprograms Let's put it this way, I didn't myself and everything is working fine. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one up too. - Original Message - From: "matthew" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 11:35 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential & otherspywareprograms Someone had told me you need to uninstall a previous version of MSSE before updating it. I do know the site says to remove all other spyware programs before upgrading and i wanted to double check before I do this because it is a bit of a process. Do you need to uninstall them totally? On 12/27/2010 9:55 AM, David Ferrin wrote: > I don't use spyware blaster any longer for quite a while actually, but I > do > use the other programs you mentioned together successfully. > David Ferrin > ow...@jaws-users.com > I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one > up > too. > - Original Message - > From: "Lennie" > To: > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 10:18 AM > Subject: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential& other > spywareprograms > > > Hi, > > I just installed the latest version of MSE on my wife's laptop using > Windows XP. I have a couple of questions regarding other spyware > programs on her computer. > > She has the free version of SuperAntiSpyware and Spyware Blaster > installed on her computer. > >According to the installation of MSE, it was recommended to > uninstall all other spyware programs since I suppose that > there would be a conflict. I think there should not be any other > real time spyware running with MSE which SuperAntiSpyware is not. > However, Spyware Blaster is always running in the background. > > Does anyone know if this really cause a conflict and running MSE scan > would create a false positive? For the moment, both spyware > applications are still on her computer and I would like to know what > to do since I will be eventually installing MSE on my desktop XP > computer with the two same spyware application on it. > > Any suggestions and help will greatly be appreciated. Thanks and take > care. > > Happy New Year to everyone! > > Lennie > > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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So MSE doesn't automatically update itself to the new version when doing updates? How did folks find out a new version was out? Any new bells & whistles? Al -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com]on Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 1:05 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential &otherspywareprograms Let's put it this way, I didn't myself and everything is working fine. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one up too. - Original Message - From: "matthew" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 11:35 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential & otherspywareprograms Someone had told me you need to uninstall a previous version of MSSE before updating it. I do know the site says to remove all other spyware programs before upgrading and i wanted to double check before I do this because it is a bit of a process. Do you need to uninstall them totally? On 12/27/2010 9:55 AM, David Ferrin wrote: > I don't use spyware blaster any longer for quite a while actually, but I > do > use the other programs you mentioned together successfully. > David Ferrin > ow...@jaws-users.com > I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one > up > too. > - Original Message - > From: "Lennie" > To: > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 10:18 AM > Subject: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential& other > spywareprograms > > > Hi, > > I just installed the latest version of MSE on my wife's laptop using > Windows XP. I have a couple of questions regarding other spyware > programs on her computer. > > She has the free version of SuperAntiSpyware and Spyware Blaster > installed on her computer. > >According to the installation of MSE, it was recommended to > uninstall all other spyware programs since I suppose that > there would be a conflict. I think there should not be any other > real time spyware running with MSE which SuperAntiSpyware is not. > However, Spyware Blaster is always running in the background. > > Does anyone know if this really cause a conflict and running MSE scan > would create a false positive? For the moment, both spyware > applications are still on her computer and I would like to know what > to do since I will be eventually installing MSE on my desktop XP > computer with the two same spyware application on it. > > Any suggestions and help will greatly be appreciated. Thanks and take > care. > > Happy New Year to everyone! > > Lennie > > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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Hi Matthew; No, you don't need to stop the SAS Real Time from running. You can run the MSSE & SAS Real Time at the same time. Hope this helps. Take care. Mike - Original Message - From: matthew To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential &otherspywareprograms Ahh ok cool. I am running the free version of malware bites but have the paid version of super anti spyware. Do I need to disable real time protection if that is what it uses? I am going to take a look at it but any extra help would be great, thanks. On 12/27/2010 11:15 AM, Gerald Levy wrote: > > You can update to MSE 2.0 without first uninstalling your current > version. However, if you have other real-time anti-malware programs on > your PC, they should be removed, since they might cause conflicts with > MSE. However, anti-spyware programs like Malware Bytes and the free > version of Super Anti Spyware, which are on-demand scanners only, do > not have to be removed, and in fact, complement MSE very nicely. > Remember, the key term here is "real-time". You never want more than > one real-time anti-malware program on the same PC. > > Gerald > > > - Original Message - From: "matthew" > To: > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 11:35 AM > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential & > otherspywareprograms > > >> Someone had told me you need to uninstall a previous version of MSSE >> before updating it. I do know the site says to remove all other >> spyware programs before upgrading and i wanted to double check before >> I do this because it is a bit of a process. Do you need to uninstall >> them totally? >> >> On 12/27/2010 9:55 AM, David Ferrin wrote: >>> I don't use spyware blaster any longer for quite a while actually, >>> but I do >>> use the other programs you mentioned together successfully. >>> David Ferrin >>> ow...@jaws-users.com >>> I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that >>> one up >>> too. >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Lennie" >>> To: >>> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 10:18 AM >>> Subject: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential& other >>> spywareprograms >>> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I just installed the latest version of MSE on my wife's laptop using >>> Windows XP. I have a couple of questions regarding other spyware >>> programs on her computer. >>> >>> She has the free version of SuperAntiSpyware and Spyware Blaster >>> installed on her computer. >>> >>>According to the installation of MSE, it was recommended to >>> uninstall all other spyware programs since I suppose that >>> there would be a conflict. I think there should not be any other >>> real time spyware running with MSE which SuperAntiSpyware is not. >>> However, Spyware Blaster is always running in the background. >>> >>> Does anyone know if this really cause a conflict and running MSE scan >>> would create a false positive? For the moment, both spyware >>> applications are still on her computer and I would like to know what >>> to do since I will be eventually installing MSE on my desktop XP >>> computer with the two same spyware application on it. >>> >>> Any suggestions and help will greatly be appreciated. Thanks and >>> take care. >>> >>> Happy New Year to everyone! >>> >>> Lennie >>> >>> >>> >>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >>> >>> >>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >> >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential & otherspywareprograms
Let's put it this way, I didn't myself and everything is working fine. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one up too. - Original Message - From: "matthew" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 11:35 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential & otherspywareprograms Someone had told me you need to uninstall a previous version of MSSE before updating it. I do know the site says to remove all other spyware programs before upgrading and i wanted to double check before I do this because it is a bit of a process. Do you need to uninstall them totally? On 12/27/2010 9:55 AM, David Ferrin wrote: > I don't use spyware blaster any longer for quite a while actually, but I > do > use the other programs you mentioned together successfully. > David Ferrin > ow...@jaws-users.com > I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one > up > too. > - Original Message - > From: "Lennie" > To: > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 10:18 AM > Subject: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential& other > spywareprograms > > > Hi, > > I just installed the latest version of MSE on my wife's laptop using > Windows XP. I have a couple of questions regarding other spyware > programs on her computer. > > She has the free version of SuperAntiSpyware and Spyware Blaster > installed on her computer. > >According to the installation of MSE, it was recommended to > uninstall all other spyware programs since I suppose that > there would be a conflict. I think there should not be any other > real time spyware running with MSE which SuperAntiSpyware is not. > However, Spyware Blaster is always running in the background. > > Does anyone know if this really cause a conflict and running MSE scan > would create a false positive? For the moment, both spyware > applications are still on her computer and I would like to know what > to do since I will be eventually installing MSE on my desktop XP > computer with the two same spyware application on it. > > Any suggestions and help will greatly be appreciated. Thanks and take > care. > > Happy New Year to everyone! > > Lennie > > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[Blind-Computing] bios
hi Jackie, no I do not have a brail embosser. -anna ---original message--- Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 09:59:14 -0700 From: Jackie McBride < able...@gmail.com> To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] bios Message-ID: < aanlkti=m-qvpjpgnjk0ma7p5rys7t+iskrcawaeta...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Do u perchance have a braille embosser? On 12/27/10, Anna Vimini < an...@etown.net> wrote: > Hi Jackie, > I am not sure what the writing says and I have no one here to read it to me. > all I know it is a bunch of writing on the screen so I asumed it was the > bios it only does this once in a while anyway. > the next time it goes to the screen with all the writing on it instead of > going to the windows when I start it up I will try to have someone tell me > what it says. > -anna > ---original message--- > From: Jackie McBride < > able...@gmail.com> > > To: > blind-computing@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] bios > Message-ID: > < > aanlktikggeur9amaj1b2qbnd5zbmpy5o0q0p4vkp=...@mail.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Anna, u simply do not provide enough information. U need to tell us > what the writing says, so you'll need to get assistance for this if u > have no useable eyesight. > > On 12/26/10, Anna Vimini < > an...@etown.net> > wrote: >> Hi, >> some times when I just start up my computer it just goes to a screen with >> alot of writing on it and does not go to the windows and I have to close >> the >> computer off and start it again and then it works right, does any one know >> why it does this? >> I am using windows XP home. >> any help will be appreciated . >> -Anna For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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Matthew. I too am running Malwarebytes with MSE but not simultaneously. I only crank up Malwarebytes when I need it. Kinda glad now that I didn't buy my usual multi-year contract with Nod32! Andre - Original Message - From: "matthew" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 9:37 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential &otherspywareprograms Thank you for the information Andre. I will do that. On 12/27/2010 10:39 AM, Andre Williams wrote: > You can simply install right over MSE 1.0. I did and am not having any > problems. > Andre > > - Original Message - > From: "matthew" > To: > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 8:35 AM > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential& > otherspywareprograms > > > Someone had told me you need to uninstall a previous version of MSSE > before updating it. I do know the site says to remove all other spyware > programs before upgrading and i wanted to double check before I do this > because it is a bit of a process. Do you need to uninstall them totally? > > On 12/27/2010 9:55 AM, David Ferrin wrote: >> I don't use spyware blaster any longer for quite a while actually, but I >> do >> use the other programs you mentioned together successfully. >> David Ferrin >> ow...@jaws-users.com >> I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one >> up >> too. >> - Original Message - >> From: "Lennie" >> To: >> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 10:18 AM >> Subject: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential& other >> spywareprograms >> >> >> Hi, >> >> I just installed the latest version of MSE on my wife's laptop using >> Windows XP. I have a couple of questions regarding other spyware >> programs on her computer. >> >> She has the free version of SuperAntiSpyware and Spyware Blaster >> installed on her computer. >> >> According to the installation of MSE, it was recommended to >> uninstall all other spyware programs since I suppose that >> there would be a conflict. I think there should not be any other >> real time spyware running with MSE which SuperAntiSpyware is not. >> However, Spyware Blaster is always running in the background. >> >> Does anyone know if this really cause a conflict and running MSE scan >> would create a false positive? For the moment, both spyware >> applications are still on her computer and I would like to know what >> to do since I will be eventually installing MSE on my desktop XP >> computer with the two same spyware application on it. >> >> Any suggestions and help will greatly be appreciated. Thanks and take >> care. >> >> Happy New Year to everyone! >> >> Lennie >> >> >> >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >> >> >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential & otherspywareprograms
Thank you for the information Andre. I will do that. On 12/27/2010 10:39 AM, Andre Williams wrote: You can simply install right over MSE 1.0. I did and am not having any problems. Andre - Original Message - From: "matthew" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 8:35 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential& otherspywareprograms Someone had told me you need to uninstall a previous version of MSSE before updating it. I do know the site says to remove all other spyware programs before upgrading and i wanted to double check before I do this because it is a bit of a process. Do you need to uninstall them totally? On 12/27/2010 9:55 AM, David Ferrin wrote: I don't use spyware blaster any longer for quite a while actually, but I do use the other programs you mentioned together successfully. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one up too. - Original Message - From: "Lennie" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 10:18 AM Subject: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential& other spywareprograms Hi, I just installed the latest version of MSE on my wife's laptop using Windows XP. I have a couple of questions regarding other spyware programs on her computer. She has the free version of SuperAntiSpyware and Spyware Blaster installed on her computer. According to the installation of MSE, it was recommended to uninstall all other spyware programs since I suppose that there would be a conflict. I think there should not be any other real time spyware running with MSE which SuperAntiSpyware is not. However, Spyware Blaster is always running in the background. Does anyone know if this really cause a conflict and running MSE scan would create a false positive? For the moment, both spyware applications are still on her computer and I would like to know what to do since I will be eventually installing MSE on my desktop XP computer with the two same spyware application on it. Any suggestions and help will greatly be appreciated. Thanks and take care. Happy New Year to everyone! Lennie For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential & otherspywareprograms
Ahh ok cool. I am running the free version of malware bites but have the paid version of super anti spyware. Do I need to disable real time protection if that is what it uses? I am going to take a look at it but any extra help would be great, thanks. On 12/27/2010 11:15 AM, Gerald Levy wrote: You can update to MSE 2.0 without first uninstalling your current version. However, if you have other real-time anti-malware programs on your PC, they should be removed, since they might cause conflicts with MSE. However, anti-spyware programs like Malware Bytes and the free version of Super Anti Spyware, which are on-demand scanners only, do not have to be removed, and in fact, complement MSE very nicely. Remember, the key term here is "real-time". You never want more than one real-time anti-malware program on the same PC. Gerald - Original Message - From: "matthew" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 11:35 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential & otherspywareprograms Someone had told me you need to uninstall a previous version of MSSE before updating it. I do know the site says to remove all other spyware programs before upgrading and i wanted to double check before I do this because it is a bit of a process. Do you need to uninstall them totally? On 12/27/2010 9:55 AM, David Ferrin wrote: I don't use spyware blaster any longer for quite a while actually, but I do use the other programs you mentioned together successfully. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one up too. - Original Message - From: "Lennie" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 10:18 AM Subject: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential& other spywareprograms Hi, I just installed the latest version of MSE on my wife's laptop using Windows XP. I have a couple of questions regarding other spyware programs on her computer. She has the free version of SuperAntiSpyware and Spyware Blaster installed on her computer. According to the installation of MSE, it was recommended to uninstall all other spyware programs since I suppose that there would be a conflict. I think there should not be any other real time spyware running with MSE which SuperAntiSpyware is not. However, Spyware Blaster is always running in the background. Does anyone know if this really cause a conflict and running MSE scan would create a false positive? For the moment, both spyware applications are still on her computer and I would like to know what to do since I will be eventually installing MSE on my desktop XP computer with the two same spyware application on it. Any suggestions and help will greatly be appreciated. Thanks and take care. Happy New Year to everyone! Lennie For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential & otherspywareprograms
You can update to MSE 2.0 without first uninstalling your current version. However, if you have other real-time anti-malware programs on your PC, they should be removed, since they might cause conflicts with MSE. However, anti-spyware programs like Malware Bytes and the free version of Super Anti Spyware, which are on-demand scanners only, do not have to be removed, and in fact, complement MSE very nicely. Remember, the key term here is "real-time". You never want more than one real-time anti-malware program on the same PC. Gerald - Original Message - From: "matthew" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 11:35 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential & otherspywareprograms Someone had told me you need to uninstall a previous version of MSSE before updating it. I do know the site says to remove all other spyware programs before upgrading and i wanted to double check before I do this because it is a bit of a process. Do you need to uninstall them totally? On 12/27/2010 9:55 AM, David Ferrin wrote: I don't use spyware blaster any longer for quite a while actually, but I do use the other programs you mentioned together successfully. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one up too. - Original Message - From: "Lennie" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 10:18 AM Subject: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential& other spywareprograms Hi, I just installed the latest version of MSE on my wife's laptop using Windows XP. I have a couple of questions regarding other spyware programs on her computer. She has the free version of SuperAntiSpyware and Spyware Blaster installed on her computer. According to the installation of MSE, it was recommended to uninstall all other spyware programs since I suppose that there would be a conflict. I think there should not be any other real time spyware running with MSE which SuperAntiSpyware is not. However, Spyware Blaster is always running in the background. Does anyone know if this really cause a conflict and running MSE scan would create a false positive? For the moment, both spyware applications are still on her computer and I would like to know what to do since I will be eventually installing MSE on my desktop XP computer with the two same spyware application on it. Any suggestions and help will greatly be appreciated. Thanks and take care. Happy New Year to everyone! Lennie For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] bios
Do u perchance have a braille embosser? On 12/27/10, Anna Vimini wrote: > Hi Jackie, > I am not sure what the writing says and I have no one here to read it to me. > all I know it is a bunch of writing on the screen so I asumed it was the > bios it only does this once in a while anyway. > the next time it goes to the screen with all the writing on it instead of > going to the windows when I start it up I will try to have someone tell me > what it says. > -anna > ---original message--- > From: Jackie McBride < > able...@gmail.com> > > To: > blind-computing@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] bios > Message-ID: > < > aanlktikggeur9amaj1b2qbnd5zbmpy5o0q0p4vkp=...@mail.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Anna, u simply do not provide enough information. U need to tell us > what the writing says, so you'll need to get assistance for this if u > have no useable eyesight. > > On 12/26/10, Anna Vimini < > an...@etown.net> > wrote: >> Hi, >> some times when I just start up my computer it just goes to a screen with >> alot of writing on it and does not go to the windows and I have to close >> the >> computer off and start it again and then it works right, does any one know >> why it does this? >> I am using windows XP home. >> any help will be appreciated . >> -Anna > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > -- Change the world--1 deed at a time Jackie McBride Scripting Classes: http://jawsscripting.lonsdalemedia.org homePage: www.abletec.serverheaven.net For technophobes: www.technophoeb.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential & otherspywareprograms
You can simply install right over MSE 1.0. I did and am not having any problems. Andre - Original Message - From: "matthew" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 8:35 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential & otherspywareprograms Someone had told me you need to uninstall a previous version of MSSE before updating it. I do know the site says to remove all other spyware programs before upgrading and i wanted to double check before I do this because it is a bit of a process. Do you need to uninstall them totally? On 12/27/2010 9:55 AM, David Ferrin wrote: > I don't use spyware blaster any longer for quite a while actually, but I > do > use the other programs you mentioned together successfully. > David Ferrin > ow...@jaws-users.com > I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one > up > too. > - Original Message - > From: "Lennie" > To: > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 10:18 AM > Subject: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential& other > spywareprograms > > > Hi, > > I just installed the latest version of MSE on my wife's laptop using > Windows XP. I have a couple of questions regarding other spyware > programs on her computer. > > She has the free version of SuperAntiSpyware and Spyware Blaster > installed on her computer. > >According to the installation of MSE, it was recommended to > uninstall all other spyware programs since I suppose that > there would be a conflict. I think there should not be any other > real time spyware running with MSE which SuperAntiSpyware is not. > However, Spyware Blaster is always running in the background. > > Does anyone know if this really cause a conflict and running MSE scan > would create a false positive? For the moment, both spyware > applications are still on her computer and I would like to know what > to do since I will be eventually installing MSE on my desktop XP > computer with the two same spyware application on it. > > Any suggestions and help will greatly be appreciated. Thanks and take > care. > > Happy New Year to everyone! > > Lennie > > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential & other spywareprograms
Someone had told me you need to uninstall a previous version of MSSE before updating it. I do know the site says to remove all other spyware programs before upgrading and i wanted to double check before I do this because it is a bit of a process. Do you need to uninstall them totally? On 12/27/2010 9:55 AM, David Ferrin wrote: I don't use spyware blaster any longer for quite a while actually, but I do use the other programs you mentioned together successfully. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one up too. - Original Message - From: "Lennie" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 10:18 AM Subject: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential& other spywareprograms Hi, I just installed the latest version of MSE on my wife's laptop using Windows XP. I have a couple of questions regarding other spyware programs on her computer. She has the free version of SuperAntiSpyware and Spyware Blaster installed on her computer. According to the installation of MSE, it was recommended to uninstall all other spyware programs since I suppose that there would be a conflict. I think there should not be any other real time spyware running with MSE which SuperAntiSpyware is not. However, Spyware Blaster is always running in the background. Does anyone know if this really cause a conflict and running MSE scan would create a false positive? For the moment, both spyware applications are still on her computer and I would like to know what to do since I will be eventually installing MSE on my desktop XP computer with the two same spyware application on it. Any suggestions and help will greatly be appreciated. Thanks and take care. Happy New Year to everyone! Lennie For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[Blind-Computing] bios
Hi Jackie, I am not sure what the writing says and I have no one here to read it to me. all I know it is a bunch of writing on the screen so I asumed it was the bios it only does this once in a while anyway. the next time it goes to the screen with all the writing on it instead of going to the windows when I start it up I will try to have someone tell me what it says. -anna ---original message--- From: Jackie McBride < able...@gmail.com> To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] bios Message-ID: < aanlktikggeur9amaj1b2qbnd5zbmpy5o0q0p4vkp=...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Anna, u simply do not provide enough information. U need to tell us what the writing says, so you'll need to get assistance for this if u have no useable eyesight. On 12/26/10, Anna Vimini < an...@etown.net> wrote: > Hi, > some times when I just start up my computer it just goes to a screen with > alot of writing on it and does not go to the windows and I have to close the > computer off and start it again and then it works right, does any one know > why it does this? > I am using windows XP home. > any help will be appreciated . > -Anna For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential & other spywareprograms
I don't use spyware blaster any longer for quite a while actually, but I do use the other programs you mentioned together successfully. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one up too. - Original Message - From: "Lennie" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 10:18 AM Subject: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential & other spywareprograms Hi, I just installed the latest version of MSE on my wife's laptop using Windows XP. I have a couple of questions regarding other spyware programs on her computer. She has the free version of SuperAntiSpyware and Spyware Blaster installed on her computer. According to the installation of MSE, it was recommended to uninstall all other spyware programs since I suppose that there would be a conflict. I think there should not be any other real time spyware running with MSE which SuperAntiSpyware is not. However, Spyware Blaster is always running in the background. Does anyone know if this really cause a conflict and running MSE scan would create a false positive? For the moment, both spyware applications are still on her computer and I would like to know what to do since I will be eventually installing MSE on my desktop XP computer with the two same spyware application on it. Any suggestions and help will greatly be appreciated. Thanks and take care. Happy New Year to everyone! Lennie For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential & other spywareprograms
I use MSE along with Malwarebytes Pro and Spyware Blaster. No problems here. John - Original Message - From: "Lennie" To: Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 10:18 AM Subject: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential & other spywareprograms Hi, I just installed the latest version of MSE on my wife's laptop using Windows XP. I have a couple of questions regarding other spyware programs on her computer. She has the free version of SuperAntiSpyware and Spyware Blaster installed on her computer. According to the installation of MSE, it was recommended to uninstall all other spyware programs since I suppose that there would be a conflict. I think there should not be any other real time spyware running with MSE which SuperAntiSpyware is not. However, Spyware Blaster is always running in the background. Does anyone know if this really cause a conflict and running MSE scan would create a false positive? For the moment, both spyware applications are still on her computer and I would like to know what to do since I will be eventually installing MSE on my desktop XP computer with the two same spyware application on it. Any suggestions and help will greatly be appreciated. Thanks and take care. Happy New Year to everyone! Lennie For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential & other spywareprograms
HI Lennie; I have been running Super Anti Spyware & MSSE together since the inception of MSSE with zero problems. I can't speak for Spyware Blaster but, it sounds like there could be a potential problem since SAS & SpyBlaster are both Anti Spyware programs & MSSE is primarily an AntiVirus program. You should probably uninstall SAS or SpyBlaster, so you have only 1 Anti Spyware program running. Hope this helps. Take care. Mike - Original Message - From: Lennie To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 7:18 AM Subject: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential & other spywareprograms Hi, I just installed the latest version of MSE on my wife's laptop using Windows XP. I have a couple of questions regarding other spyware programs on her computer. She has the free version of SuperAntiSpyware and Spyware Blaster installed on her computer. According to the installation of MSE, it was recommended to uninstall all other spyware programs since I suppose that there would be a conflict. I think there should not be any other real time spyware running with MSE which SuperAntiSpyware is not. However, Spyware Blaster is always running in the background. Does anyone know if this really cause a conflict and running MSE scan would create a false positive? For the moment, both spyware applications are still on her computer and I would like to know what to do since I will be eventually installing MSE on my desktop XP computer with the two same spyware application on it. Any suggestions and help will greatly be appreciated. Thanks and take care. Happy New Year to everyone! Lennie For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[Blind-Computing] Microsoft Security Essential & other spyware programs
Hi, I just installed the latest version of MSE on my wife's laptop using Windows XP. I have a couple of questions regarding other spyware programs on her computer. She has the free version of SuperAntiSpyware and Spyware Blaster installed on her computer. According to the installation of MSE, it was recommended to uninstall all other spyware programs since I suppose that there would be a conflict. I think there should not be any other real time spyware running with MSE which SuperAntiSpyware is not. However, Spyware Blaster is always running in the background. Does anyone know if this really cause a conflict and running MSE scan would create a false positive? For the moment, both spyware applications are still on her computer and I would like to know what to do since I will be eventually installing MSE on my desktop XP computer with the two same spyware application on it. Any suggestions and help will greatly be appreciated. Thanks and take care. Happy New Year to everyone! Lennie For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
