[Blind-Computing] AVG and Jaws

2012-08-29 Thread Niamh
Hi all I fell victim to a horrible worm, something which sounded like MS Anti 
Virus Platinum.
My computer was out for days and it took an engineer to remove it and clean up 
the computer.
He recommended AVG as my program.
I had been using MS security  suit, but it got by that.
Is AVG good and Accessible?
Niamh
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Re: [Blind-Computing] AVG and Jaws

2012-08-29 Thread Lauren Simmons
HI Niahmh,



On 8/29/12, Niamh niam.mcke...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all I fell victim to a horrible worm, something which sounded like MS
 Anti Virus Platinum.
 My computer was out for days and it took an engineer to remove it and clean
 up the computer.
 He recommended AVG as my program.
 I had been using MS security  suit, but it got by that.
 Is AVG good and Accessible?
 Niamh
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 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [Blind-Computing] AVG and Jaws

2012-08-29 Thread Lauren Simmons
Hi Niamh,

Firstly, sorry about my previous empty message. Human error. (Smile).

In all likelihood, while using Internet Explorer or other browser, you
probably clicked or pressed enter on a warning message telling you
that certain worms or viruses had been discovered on your computer and
that you should click on a Scan or Clean link  to get rid of them.
In fact, when you clicked on the scan link promising to clean your
computer, this was actually a virus you were installing. I'm sure your
computer probably went crazy after that with crazy popups and weird
sounds, and when you tried running your antivirus such as MSE you
could not do so. there are many, many variants of this malware on the
internet.

The reason you got infected was not because Microsoft Security
Essentials failed you (there is no major commercial antivirus that can
protect the user from mistakes in judgment when it comes to this kind
of prompt). AVG will not be able to help you if you come across the
same type of prompt, and Nod32 will also not be able to protect you.
The computer user also bares some responsibility for the security of
their computer.

You should seriously consider taking a multi-layer approach to
protection. You should use a properly configured MSE, and use
Malwarebytes Pro for full real time protection (do not use the free
malwarebytes as it can't protect you in real time and will probably
not be completely effective in ridding your computer of malware after
the fact).

Very glad to hear you are back on your feet as I was a bit upset when
this happened to me also. Luckily, I had an image of my computer from
just a few days prior, which I was able to use to restore my computer
to a working state within an hour.

LS

 On 8/29/12, Niamh niam.mcke...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all I fell victim to a horrible worm, something which sounded like MS
 Anti Virus Platinum.
 My computer was out for days and it took an engineer to remove it and
 clean
 up the computer.
 He recommended AVG as my program.
 I had been using MS security  suit, but it got by that.
 Is AVG good and Accessible?
 Niamh
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 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



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Re: [Blind-Computing] AVG and Jaws

2012-08-29 Thread Niamh

That is very good advice.
I am sure that you describe precisely what I did, I just wish Jaws read 
everything, I have had this problem before.

Is there a Jaws setting which prevents clicking on something unknowingly?
Niamh
- Original Message - 
From: Lauren Simmons simmonslaure...@gmail.com

To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 4:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] AVG and Jaws



Hi Niamh,

Firstly, sorry about my previous empty message. Human error. (Smile).

In all likelihood, while using Internet Explorer or other browser, you
probably clicked or pressed enter on a warning message telling you
that certain worms or viruses had been discovered on your computer and
that you should click on a Scan or Clean link  to get rid of them.
In fact, when you clicked on the scan link promising to clean your
computer, this was actually a virus you were installing. I'm sure your
computer probably went crazy after that with crazy popups and weird
sounds, and when you tried running your antivirus such as MSE you
could not do so. there are many, many variants of this malware on the
internet.

The reason you got infected was not because Microsoft Security
Essentials failed you (there is no major commercial antivirus that can
protect the user from mistakes in judgment when it comes to this kind
of prompt). AVG will not be able to help you if you come across the
same type of prompt, and Nod32 will also not be able to protect you.
The computer user also bares some responsibility for the security of
their computer.

You should seriously consider taking a multi-layer approach to
protection. You should use a properly configured MSE, and use
Malwarebytes Pro for full real time protection (do not use the free
malwarebytes as it can't protect you in real time and will probably
not be completely effective in ridding your computer of malware after
the fact).

Very glad to hear you are back on your feet as I was a bit upset when
this happened to me also. Luckily, I had an image of my computer from
just a few days prior, which I was able to use to restore my computer
to a working state within an hour.

LS


On 8/29/12, Niamh niam.mcke...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi all I fell victim to a horrible worm, something which sounded like MS
Anti Virus Platinum.
My computer was out for days and it took an engineer to remove it and
clean
up the computer.
He recommended AVG as my program.
I had been using MS security  suit, but it got by that.
Is AVG good and Accessible?
Niamh
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Re: [Blind-Computing] AVG and Jaws

2012-08-29 Thread Elaine

Hiya

someone once told me, the best way to get out of those traps is just to 
shutdown the computer. do nothing in otherwords as the worm or trojan will 
install if you close the window, with alt F4, do not install in otherwords. 
either way it will install.


so I have my computers button shutting down the PC just in case of such 
situations.


HTH

Elaine


-Original Message- 
From: Niamh

Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 6:20 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] AVG and Jaws

That is very good advice.
I am sure that you describe precisely what I did, I just wish Jaws read
everything, I have had this problem before.
Is there a Jaws setting which prevents clicking on something unknowingly?
Niamh
- Original Message - 
From: Lauren Simmons simmonslaure...@gmail.com

To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 4:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] AVG and Jaws



Hi Niamh,

Firstly, sorry about my previous empty message. Human error. (Smile).

In all likelihood, while using Internet Explorer or other browser, you
probably clicked or pressed enter on a warning message telling you
that certain worms or viruses had been discovered on your computer and
that you should click on a Scan or Clean link  to get rid of them.
In fact, when you clicked on the scan link promising to clean your
computer, this was actually a virus you were installing. I'm sure your
computer probably went crazy after that with crazy popups and weird
sounds, and when you tried running your antivirus such as MSE you
could not do so. there are many, many variants of this malware on the
internet.

The reason you got infected was not because Microsoft Security
Essentials failed you (there is no major commercial antivirus that can
protect the user from mistakes in judgment when it comes to this kind
of prompt). AVG will not be able to help you if you come across the
same type of prompt, and Nod32 will also not be able to protect you.
The computer user also bares some responsibility for the security of
their computer.

You should seriously consider taking a multi-layer approach to
protection. You should use a properly configured MSE, and use
Malwarebytes Pro for full real time protection (do not use the free
malwarebytes as it can't protect you in real time and will probably
not be completely effective in ridding your computer of malware after
the fact).

Very glad to hear you are back on your feet as I was a bit upset when
this happened to me also. Luckily, I had an image of my computer from
just a few days prior, which I was able to use to restore my computer
to a working state within an hour.

LS


On 8/29/12, Niamh niam.mcke...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi all I fell victim to a horrible worm, something which sounded like MS
Anti Virus Platinum.
My computer was out for days and it took an engineer to remove it and
clean
up the computer.
He recommended AVG as my program.
I had been using MS security  suit, but it got by that.
Is AVG good and Accessible?
Niamh
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Re: [Blind-Computing] AVG and Jaws

2012-08-29 Thread Niamh
good tip, it is just that sometimes I fear there are things on my screen 
which I do not known about.

Niamh

- Original Message - 
From: Elaine elaine.d...@gmail.com

To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] AVG and Jaws



Hiya

someone once told me, the best way to get out of those traps is just to 
shutdown the computer. do nothing in otherwords as the worm or trojan will 
install if you close the window, with alt F4, do not install in 
otherwords. either way it will install.


so I have my computers button shutting down the PC just in case of such 
situations.


HTH

Elaine


-Original Message- 
From: Niamh

Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 6:20 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] AVG and Jaws

That is very good advice.
I am sure that you describe precisely what I did, I just wish Jaws read
everything, I have had this problem before.
Is there a Jaws setting which prevents clicking on something unknowingly?
Niamh
- Original Message - 
From: Lauren Simmons simmonslaure...@gmail.com

To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 4:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] AVG and Jaws



Hi Niamh,

Firstly, sorry about my previous empty message. Human error. (Smile).

In all likelihood, while using Internet Explorer or other browser, you
probably clicked or pressed enter on a warning message telling you
that certain worms or viruses had been discovered on your computer and
that you should click on a Scan or Clean link  to get rid of them.
In fact, when you clicked on the scan link promising to clean your
computer, this was actually a virus you were installing. I'm sure your
computer probably went crazy after that with crazy popups and weird
sounds, and when you tried running your antivirus such as MSE you
could not do so. there are many, many variants of this malware on the
internet.

The reason you got infected was not because Microsoft Security
Essentials failed you (there is no major commercial antivirus that can
protect the user from mistakes in judgment when it comes to this kind
of prompt). AVG will not be able to help you if you come across the
same type of prompt, and Nod32 will also not be able to protect you.
The computer user also bares some responsibility for the security of
their computer.

You should seriously consider taking a multi-layer approach to
protection. You should use a properly configured MSE, and use
Malwarebytes Pro for full real time protection (do not use the free
malwarebytes as it can't protect you in real time and will probably
not be completely effective in ridding your computer of malware after
the fact).

Very glad to hear you are back on your feet as I was a bit upset when
this happened to me also. Luckily, I had an image of my computer from
just a few days prior, which I was able to use to restore my computer
to a working state within an hour.

LS


On 8/29/12, Niamh niam.mcke...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all I fell victim to a horrible worm, something which sounded like 
MS

Anti Virus Platinum.
My computer was out for days and it took an engineer to remove it and
clean
up the computer.
He recommended AVG as my program.
I had been using MS security  suit, but it got by that.
Is AVG good and Accessible?
Niamh
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