[Blind-Computing] JAWS cursor question

2011-11-10 Thread jerry martin
To any and All:

I have a question regarding the JAWS cursor functions.  On several of the 
instructions that have been given over time, there has been mentioning of 
routing the JAWS cursor to PC cursor.  My question is this:  What is the 
difference, function-wise, between pressing the JAWS Key plus the Minus key on 
the numpad and simply pressing the minus key?  Hope my phrasing makes sense to 
someone.

Many thanks.

Jerry
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Re: [Blind-Computing] JAWS cursor question

2011-11-10 Thread Nimer M . Jaber , IC³
Hello,

When you push the minus key, you activate the JAWS cursor and when you
read and move around with your arrows you're doing so with the use of
your JAWS cursor which allows you to move unhindered between different
parts of applications and even between applications. When you route
one cursor to the other, (for example PC to JAWS) you have moved the
PC cursor to where the JAWS cursor is. Why is this useful? Let's say
you're moving around a form with your JAWS cursor because you wish to
know its layout. Your PC cursor is somewhere at the top of the page.
If you route the PC to the JAWS, you are now able to fill out the
field that your JAWS cursor is sitting on. You can not edit text with
your JAWS cursor which necessitates you moving the PC cursor to the
JAWS cursor. And when you route the JAWS cursor to the PC cursor, you
are moving your JAWS cursor to wherever it ended up to the PC cursor.
This is useful because if you're navigating around, your JAWS cursor
gets stuck someplace like the start button and you wish to bring it
back, or if you want to begin using the JAWS cursor where the PC
cursor is, then you route the JAWS to the PC. I hope this was more
clear.

Thanks.

On 10.11.2011, jerry martin jandymar...@clear.net wrote:
 To any and All:

 I have a question regarding the JAWS cursor functions.  On several of the
 instructions that have been given over time, there has been mentioning of
 routing the JAWS cursor to PC cursor.  My question is this:  What is the
 difference, function-wise, between pressing the JAWS Key plus the Minus key
 on the numpad and simply pressing the minus key?  Hope my phrasing makes
 sense to someone.

 Many thanks.

 Jerry
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Re: [Blind-Computing] JAWS cursor question

2011-11-10 Thread Bob W
That's actually a good question.
I'll try to respond.

When you press either the keypad plus key (pc cursor) or the keypad minus 
key (jaws cursor key) the system simply activates either the jaws or pc 
cursor. In other words, nothing moves.

When you press the jaws key plus the minus it activates the jaws cursor and 
moves it to the pc cursor. So, the jaws cursor moves to the pc cursor.

Hope this helps.

Bob
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From: jerry martin jandymar...@clear.net
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 12:49 PM
Subject: [Blind-Computing] JAWS cursor question


To any and All:

I have a question regarding the JAWS cursor functions.  On several of the 
instructions that have been given over time, there has been mentioning of 
routing the JAWS cursor to PC cursor.  My question is this:  What is the 
difference, function-wise, between pressing the JAWS Key plus the Minus key 
on the numpad and simply pressing the minus key?  Hope my phrasing makes 
sense to someone.

Many thanks.

Jerry
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Re: [Blind-Computing] JAWS cursor question

2011-11-10 Thread jerry martin
Thanks for filling in the gaps for that.  I have been using JAWS for several 
years now, but still haven't got all of the questions answered.  It seems 
like every time I get one question answered, five more questions come out of 
that!
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From: Bob W rwile...@satx.rr.com

To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 1:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] JAWS cursor question



That's actually a good question.
I'll try to respond.

When you press either the keypad plus key (pc cursor) or the keypad minus
key (jaws cursor key) the system simply activates either the jaws or pc
cursor. In other words, nothing moves.

When you press the jaws key plus the minus it activates the jaws cursor 
and

moves it to the pc cursor. So, the jaws cursor moves to the pc cursor.

Hope this helps.

Bob
- Original Message - 
From: jerry martin jandymar...@clear.net

To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 12:49 PM
Subject: [Blind-Computing] JAWS cursor question


To any and All:

I have a question regarding the JAWS cursor functions.  On several of the
instructions that have been given over time, there has been mentioning of
routing the JAWS cursor to PC cursor.  My question is this:  What is the
difference, function-wise, between pressing the JAWS Key plus the Minus 
key

on the numpad and simply pressing the minus key?  Hope my phrasing makes
sense to someone.

Many thanks.

Jerry
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Re: [Blind-Computing] JAWS cursor question

2011-11-10 Thread jerry martin

Thanks for the info.
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From: Nimer M. Jaber, IC³ nimerjab...@gmail.com

To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] JAWS cursor question



Hello,

When you push the minus key, you activate the JAWS cursor and when you
read and move around with your arrows you're doing so with the use of
your JAWS cursor which allows you to move unhindered between different
parts of applications and even between applications. When you route
one cursor to the other, (for example PC to JAWS) you have moved the
PC cursor to where the JAWS cursor is. Why is this useful? Let's say
you're moving around a form with your JAWS cursor because you wish to
know its layout. Your PC cursor is somewhere at the top of the page.
If you route the PC to the JAWS, you are now able to fill out the
field that your JAWS cursor is sitting on. You can not edit text with
your JAWS cursor which necessitates you moving the PC cursor to the
JAWS cursor. And when you route the JAWS cursor to the PC cursor, you
are moving your JAWS cursor to wherever it ended up to the PC cursor.
This is useful because if you're navigating around, your JAWS cursor
gets stuck someplace like the start button and you wish to bring it
back, or if you want to begin using the JAWS cursor where the PC
cursor is, then you route the JAWS to the PC. I hope this was more
clear.

Thanks.

On 10.11.2011, jerry martin jandymar...@clear.net wrote:

To any and All:

I have a question regarding the JAWS cursor functions.  On several of the
instructions that have been given over time, there has been mentioning of
routing the JAWS cursor to PC cursor.  My question is this:  What is the
difference, function-wise, between pressing the JAWS Key plus the Minus 
key

on the numpad and simply pressing the minus key?  Hope my phrasing makes
sense to someone.

Many thanks.

Jerry
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/




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Nimer M. Jaber

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If you believe that you are not the intended recipient, please notify
me via reply email and destroy all copies of this email. Action taken
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machine for security threats. However, I will not be held responsible
for any damage caused to your machine as a result of any instructions
or attachments provided by me. Security of your machine is up to you.
Thanks, and if you don't feel that you are able to comply with these
instructions, please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies
of this email from your computer.

Registered Linux User 529141.
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Vinux testing and documentation coordinator
To get more information about a free and accessible operating system,
please click here:
http://www.vinuxproject.org

To find out about a free and versatile screen reader for windows XP
and above, please click here:
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Re: [Blind-Computing] JAWS cursor question

2011-11-10 Thread David Bundy
JAWSKey (insert) plus numpad - Ominus) routes the JAWS Cursor to the PC cursor  
 Likewise, JAWSKey plus nmumad  + routes the PC cursor to the JAWS Cursor



David W Bundy
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Subject: [Blind-Computing] JAWS cursor question

To any and All:

I have a question regarding the JAWS cursor functions.  On several of the 
instructions that have been given over time, there has been mentioning of 
routing the JAWS cursor to PC cursor.  My question is this:  What is the 
difference, function-wise, between pressing the JAWS Key plus the Minus key on 
the numpad and simply pressing the minus key?  Hope my phrasing makes sense to 
someone.

Many thanks.

Jerry
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Re: [Blind-Computing] JAWS cursor question

2011-11-10 Thread Jacob Kruger
The minus key on the number row of the keyboard is a different key to the 
numpad minus key, which would generally, in jaws using desktop keyboard 
layout, be the jaws cursor key, but, if you do have numlock turned on, then 
I think the numpad minus key then also counts as/works as the number row 
minus key, and, then the normal jaws key would then count as 0 instead of 
being the jaws key, but anyway.


This is just why pushing the jaws key + number row minus key will act 
differently from hitting the jaws key + the numpad minus key.


Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'

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From: jerry martin jandymar...@clear.net

To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 8:49 PM
Subject: [Blind-Computing] JAWS cursor question



To any and All:

I have a question regarding the JAWS cursor functions.  On several of the 
instructions that have been given over time, there has been mentioning of 
routing the JAWS cursor to PC cursor.  My question is this:  What is the 
difference, function-wise, between pressing the JAWS Key plus the Minus 
key on the numpad and simply pressing the minus key?  Hope my phrasing 
makes sense to someone.


Many thanks.

Jerry
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Re: [Blind-Computing] JAWS cursor question

2011-11-10 Thread Mike Barbara
Hi Jerry,

Jaws actually has the use of 4 different cursors.  Below each cursor's 
function is explained.
 About JAWS Cursors
 Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors. These
 cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly linked
 with Windows cursors.

 The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes
 This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and
 applications.
 This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through
 options in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons. As you type
 information, the PC Cursor follows along with each key you press. If you
 are
 making a selection in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor highlights the
 currently selected object. The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS
 starts. If you are using a different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns
 you to the PC Cursor.

 The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer
 The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and other
 applications. It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot read,
 such
 as toolbar information. The mouse follows along with the JAWS Cursor when
 it
 is moved, and you therefore have access to information in an application
 window that is beyond the scope of the PC Cursor. To activate the JAWS
 Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS.

 The Virtual PC Cursor - HTML Environment
 The virtual PC Cursor mimics the functions of the PC Cursor, but is
 activated by default when entering an HTML document. The virtual PC Cursor
 speaks the number of frames in a document, and the number of links in the
 frame. You can switch between frames, and JAWS reads graphics labeled by
 alt
 tags in the HTML code.



Invisible Cursor

The JAWS cursor is basically the mouse cursor that is visible on screen.
The invisible cursor can be moved around just like the JAWS cursor to view
information.  It works like the mouse cursor but can not be seen on screen
or effect objects.  Therefore you can not use the NumPad / (left mouse
click) or NumPad * (right mouse click) on an object.  It is useful to read
information without disturbing the mouse cursor.  It is also useful to
determine colors or whatever might change when the mouse is over an object.
It will not cause ToolTips to pop up.



Hope this helped.  Take care.

Mike



  - Original Message - 
  From: jerry martin
  To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 11:59 AM
  Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] JAWS cursor question


  Thanks for filling in the gaps for that.  I have been using JAWS for 
several
  years now, but still haven't got all of the questions answered.  It seems
  like every time I get one question answered, five more questions come out 
of
  that!
  - Original Message - 
  From: Bob W rwile...@satx.rr.com
  To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 1:17 PM
  Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] JAWS cursor question


   That's actually a good question.
   I'll try to respond.
  
   When you press either the keypad plus key (pc cursor) or the keypad 
minus
   key (jaws cursor key) the system simply activates either the jaws or pc
   cursor. In other words, nothing moves.
  
   When you press the jaws key plus the minus it activates the jaws cursor
   and
   moves it to the pc cursor. So, the jaws cursor moves to the pc cursor.
  
   Hope this helps.
  
   Bob
   - Original Message - 
   From: jerry martin jandymar...@clear.net
   To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
   Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 12:49 PM
   Subject: [Blind-Computing] JAWS cursor question
  
  
   To any and All:
  
   I have a question regarding the JAWS cursor functions.  On several of 
the
   instructions that have been given over time, there has been mentioning 
of
   routing the JAWS cursor to PC cursor.  My question is this:  What is the
   difference, function-wise, between pressing the JAWS Key plus the Minus
   key
   on the numpad and simply pressing the minus key?  Hope my phrasing makes
   sense to someone.
  
   Many thanks.
  
   Jerry
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