Re: [Blind-Computing] No Speech or Window's Sound
Hi, I wasn't going to weigh in on this volume control thing as it probably is fouled up from so much advice, some of it good and some of it not so good. The "Sticky keys" sounds come from the PC speaker. The best way to get out of narrator is alt plus F4 because tabbing around to the taskbar and trying to use a menu is not a sure thing once you've opened a few windows, the WindowsKeyPlusU keystroke opens one window for Utility Manager and another for Narrator. I know it sounds dumb but I've seen and done stranger things. First make sure your speakers didn't get plugged into the wrong port. I've taken support calls from people who had cords unplugged for every device you can imagine and this does not make you dumb, just human. I won't enumerate my various blunders over the last 15Plus years of computerdom. Ok, you need to turn your speakers up loud to first see if the volume is muted. Type WindowsKeyPlusR to bring up the startmenu's run dialog and type SNDVOL32 and then press enter to open Volume Control. The command is different for Vista and is SNDVOL. Wait a while before you start tabbing to give the window a chance to open and gain focus. Otherwise tabbing will do something else unpredictable like move you around from desktop to taskbar, or maybe nothing. Tab twice here to get to the first mute control, it could be called "mute all" or a few other things depending on your sound card. Here is where you grab your speakers' volume control and turn 'em up nice and loud and press the spacebar to unmute the volume. If you don't hear any difference there is one more mute to try. If you heard the hiss in your sound card come on then shift tab to the volume slider and turn it up loud with the home key which is either the top middle key on the six-pack if you're using a standard desktop keyboard or the seven on the numpad. If you're on a laptop and don't know where to find these keys, just uparrow a brazilion times and I do mean lots! Hey if this worked you're done, other than setting things to your liking and following the recommendations for a download at the end of this message which can keep this kind of thing from tying you up again. Let's assume now that fiddling with the first mute did nothing. Tabbing 3 or four more times puts you on another mute control. I say three or 4 because if you have a soundcard with advanced properties and have them checked in the Volume Control's options menu then you'd need to press tab four times because you have an extra control there to tab beyond. Let's press tab three times and asume for now you have no advanced controls. Turn up those speakers and press space here until you hear the soundcard's white noise or hiss. If pressing space on this mute made a difference then stay with the hissiest of the two settings you are toggling with space since that means you unmuted something with the spacebar. If that doesn't work, press escape in case you were on the advanced button instead of the mute; there is no way to know for sure. We don't want to try out your treble and bass controls with no sound and escape will cloase that Advanced dialog if we accidentally opened it. tab again and and assume you got to the second mute and press the spacebar. If you actually got hiss, continue on, otherwise the rest of this is probably a waste of your time. Since you unmuted things and have no speech, your volume got turned down somehow but we're halfway there by getting to be able to hear the lovely hiss from your sound card. You should be on a mute control here, shift plus tab to it's corresponding volume slider and press page up a few times or uparrow for a long long time. If this didn't give you sound, shift tab again and press page up a couple times. Don't hit the spacebar along the way as we like that unmuted noise you found. Page up gives you a 20 percent raise in volume so two presses of the page up key should be plenty to get speech back to start with. Continually pressing shift plus tab followed by a couple page up's should get you sound/. The worst damage we've perhaps done along the way (because we're all lost in the maze of your invisible sound card) is to overbalance your speakers to one side or the other by pressing page up in the balance control instead of the volume slider. You of course will fix that once you get speech back. If you repeat the shift tab keystroke followed by a couple page up's enough times you'll be back where you started when you opened volume control and should have speech. Tab through the volume control and set things to your liking. Pageup, well you sure know what that does - twenty-percent; up and down or right and left arrow keys move the sliders in baby steps and home gives you full volume but on the balance control that keystroke will move you completely to one ear or the other. The end key is not your friend in here as it takes a volume slider all the way to the bottom. Now go get a copy of Quickmix. You can find it at: http://www.jfwli
Re: [Blind-Computing] No Speech or Window's Sound
It's a bit of windows own functionality, so if the operating system wasn't managing to play sounds, then you wouldn't hear anything. In other words, it's literally a piece of windows that does it, not the hardware by itsself otherwise, windows wouldn't be displaying it's own dialogue... Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: "Elaine" To: Sent: 22 February, 2009 6:17 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] No Speech or Window's Sound Jacob if I'm not mistaken, those sounds come from the pc speaker not the sound card. so in this instance it wouldn't help. Elaine - Original Message - From: "Jacob Kruger" To: Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] No Speech or Window's Sound FWIW, on windows XP, my standard way to see if the sound is working at all is to hit the left shift key 5 times in quick succession since this makes the sticky keys dialogue pop up with a very noticeable sound. Just hit escape to then close it. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message ----- From: "Victor" To: Sent: 22 February, 2009 4:37 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] No Speech or Window's Sound Hi Patricia, Not sure if you saw my response on the Jaws list, so here it is. do you get windows sounds, and/or Narrator to come up when you activate it? If you do, this may be a Jaws issue, and not necessarily a system volume problem like that other person suggested. If you aren't getting any sound of any kind, then it may be the volume is set to low, or the mute is on, in which case, you may be able to do the following: press insert+F11 to bring up the system tray. You'll have to trust that it's there and hope for the best. Smile. Once you do this, press the letter V and it should take you straight to the volume icon. This is assuming, of course, that the Volume icon is the only icon there starting with the letter V. If you absolutely know that it is not, then we may have a bit of trouble here. Suffice it to say, I don't think it hurts to try this anyway. Once you've pressed the letter V, tab twice to the left single click button and press the spacebar. You may have to wait a few seconds, as the Master Volume control may not pop up right away. Doing this will bring up only the slider and mute button for the master volume, so, after you've waited a couple of seconds, press the home key, and this will raise your volume to 100%. If this still doesn't bring any sound back to your computer, tab once and press the spacebar, as you will be on the mute checkbox, and if it's checked, this will bring back the sound. Once you've done all of this, and you still don't have any sound, I'm afraid you have to start looking in a different place for your solution, possibly a loos connection on the back of your computer, make sure the power button on the speakers are turned on and the volume of the speakers are turned up enough to hear it's sound, and also check to see if the power cord is plugged in to the electrical outlet where you have it plugged in. Other than that, you may have to get someone sighted to look at the sound card properties in the device manager and see if there are any yellow marks beside the sound card. If there are, you may have to go in and check out it's settings and make sure it's enabled. Let us know how you do. Victor Co-moderator Blind Movie Buffs List Guidedogs List Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a
Re: [Blind-Computing] No Speech or Window's Sound
Hi Jack yes, you had it correct, no sounds at all from pc speakers. I wondered though, would it be worth trying a system restore, I mean if all the settings have been checked and there are no muted items, then it might be worth trying that. short of the wav sounds either very low or muted, I'm not sure what else to try from this point. Elaine - Original Message - From: "Jack" To: Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 1:31 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] No Speech or Window's Sound I've been following this thread, and I need some clarification. Is there absolutely no sound at all? If this is the case, then you shouldn't be able to hear Narrator either. Or, is it a case of there's no system sounds and you can't hear Jaws? Because if you can hear narrator, then you obviously have sound. - Original Message - From: "Jacob Kruger" To: Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 8:12 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] No Speech or Window's Sound FWIW, on windows XP, my standard way to see if the sound is working at all is to hit the left shift key 5 times in quick succession since this makes the sticky keys dialogue pop up with a very noticeable sound. Just hit escape to then close it. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: "Victor" To: Sent: 22 February, 2009 4:37 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] No Speech or Window's Sound Hi Patricia, Not sure if you saw my response on the Jaws list, so here it is. do you get windows sounds, and/or Narrator to come up when you activate it? If you do, this may be a Jaws issue, and not necessarily a system volume problem like that other person suggested. If you aren't getting any sound of any kind, then it may be the volume is set to low, or the mute is on, in which case, you may be able to do the following: press insert+F11 to bring up the system tray. You'll have to trust that it's there and hope for the best. Smile. Once you do this, press the letter V and it should take you straight to the volume icon. This is assuming, of course, that the Volume icon is the only icon there starting with the letter V. If you absolutely know that it is not, then we may have a bit of trouble here. Suffice it to say, I don't think it hurts to try this anyway. Once you've pressed the letter V, tab twice to the left single click button and press the spacebar. You may have to wait a few seconds, as the Master Volume control may not pop up right away. Doing this will bring up only the slider and mute button for the master volume, so, after you've waited a couple of seconds, press the home key, and this will raise your volume to 100%. If this still doesn't bring any sound back to your computer, tab once and press the spacebar, as you will be on the mute checkbox, and if it's checked, this will bring back the sound. Once you've done all of this, and you still don't have any sound, I'm afraid you have to start looking in a different place for your solution, possibly a loos connection on the back of your computer, make sure the power button on the speakers are turned on and the volume of the speakers are turned up enough to hear it's sound, and also check to see if the power cord is plugged in to the electrical outlet where you have it plugged in. Other than that, you may have to get someone sighted to look at the sound card properties in the device manager and see if there are any yellow marks beside the sound card. If there are, you may have to go in and check out it's settings and make sure it's enabled. Let us know how you do. Victor Co-moderator Blind Movie Buffs List Guidedogs List Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le.
Re: [Blind-Computing] No Speech or Window's Sound
Jacob if I'm not mistaken, those sounds come from the pc speaker not the sound card. so in this instance it wouldn't help. Elaine - Original Message - From: "Jacob Kruger" To: Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] No Speech or Window's Sound FWIW, on windows XP, my standard way to see if the sound is working at all is to hit the left shift key 5 times in quick succession since this makes the sticky keys dialogue pop up with a very noticeable sound. Just hit escape to then close it. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: "Victor" To: Sent: 22 February, 2009 4:37 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] No Speech or Window's Sound Hi Patricia, Not sure if you saw my response on the Jaws list, so here it is. do you get windows sounds, and/or Narrator to come up when you activate it? If you do, this may be a Jaws issue, and not necessarily a system volume problem like that other person suggested. If you aren't getting any sound of any kind, then it may be the volume is set to low, or the mute is on, in which case, you may be able to do the following: press insert+F11 to bring up the system tray. You'll have to trust that it's there and hope for the best. Smile. Once you do this, press the letter V and it should take you straight to the volume icon. This is assuming, of course, that the Volume icon is the only icon there starting with the letter V. If you absolutely know that it is not, then we may have a bit of trouble here. Suffice it to say, I don't think it hurts to try this anyway. Once you've pressed the letter V, tab twice to the left single click button and press the spacebar. You may have to wait a few seconds, as the Master Volume control may not pop up right away. Doing this will bring up only the slider and mute button for the master volume, so, after you've waited a couple of seconds, press the home key, and this will raise your volume to 100%. If this still doesn't bring any sound back to your computer, tab once and press the spacebar, as you will be on the mute checkbox, and if it's checked, this will bring back the sound. Once you've done all of this, and you still don't have any sound, I'm afraid you have to start looking in a different place for your solution, possibly a loos connection on the back of your computer, make sure the power button on the speakers are turned on and the volume of the speakers are turned up enough to hear it's sound, and also check to see if the power cord is plugged in to the electrical outlet where you have it plugged in. Other than that, you may have to get someone sighted to look at the sound card properties in the device manager and see if there are any yellow marks beside the sound card. If there are, you may have to go in and check out it's settings and make sure it's enabled. Let us know how you do. Victor Co-moderator Blind Movie Buffs List Guidedogs List Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from thi
Re: [Blind-Computing] No Speech or Window's Sound
I've been following this thread, and I need some clarification. Is there absolutely no sound at all? If this is the case, then you shouldn't be able to hear Narrator either. Or, is it a case of there's no system sounds and you can't hear Jaws? Because if you can hear narrator, then you obviously have sound. - Original Message - From: "Jacob Kruger" To: Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 8:12 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] No Speech or Window's Sound FWIW, on windows XP, my standard way to see if the sound is working at all is to hit the left shift key 5 times in quick succession since this makes the sticky keys dialogue pop up with a very noticeable sound. Just hit escape to then close it. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: "Victor" To: Sent: 22 February, 2009 4:37 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] No Speech or Window's Sound > Hi Patricia, > > Not sure if you saw my response on the Jaws list, so here it is. > > do you get windows sounds, and/or Narrator to come up when you activate > it? > > If you do, this may be a Jaws issue, and not necessarily a system volume > problem like that other person suggested. > > If you aren't getting any sound of any kind, then it may be the volume is > set to low, or the mute is on, in which case, you may be able to do the > following: > > press insert+F11 to bring up the system tray. You'll have to trust that > it's there and hope for the best. Smile. > > Once you do this, press the letter V and it should take you straight to > the > volume icon. This is assuming, of course, that the Volume icon is the > only > icon there starting with the letter V. If you absolutely know that it is > not, then we may have a bit of trouble here. > > Suffice it to say, I don't think it hurts to try this anyway. > > Once you've pressed the letter V, tab twice to the left single click > button > and press the spacebar. You may have to wait a few seconds, as the Master > Volume control may not pop up right away. > > Doing this will bring up only the slider and mute button for the master > volume, so, after you've waited a couple of seconds, press the home key, > and > this will raise your volume to 100%. If this still doesn't bring any > sound > back to your computer, tab once and press the spacebar, as you will be on > the mute checkbox, and if it's checked, this will bring back the sound. > > Once you've done all of this, and you still don't have any sound, I'm > afraid > you have to start looking in a different place for your solution, possibly > a > loos connection on the back of your computer, make sure the power button > on > the speakers are turned on and the volume of the speakers are turned up > enough to hear it's sound, and also check to see if the power cord is > plugged in to the electrical outlet where you have it plugged in. > > Other than that, you may have to get someone sighted to look at the sound > card properties in the device manager and see if there are any yellow > marks > beside the sound card. > > If there are, you may have to go in and check out it's settings and make > sure it's enabled. > > Let us know how you do. > > > Victor > Co-moderator > Blind Movie Buffs List > Guidedogs List > > > Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: > http://www.jaws-users.com > Visit the Blind Computing home page at: > http://www.blind-computing.com > Address for the list archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ > To post to this group, send email to > blind-computing@jaws-users.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to > blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com > For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject > or body of a blank message to: > blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com > Use the following address in order to contact the management team > blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com > If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the > following address: > jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to:
Re: [Blind-Computing] No Speech or Window's Sound
FWIW, on windows XP, my standard way to see if the sound is working at all is to hit the left shift key 5 times in quick succession since this makes the sticky keys dialogue pop up with a very noticeable sound. Just hit escape to then close it. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: "Victor" To: Sent: 22 February, 2009 4:37 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] No Speech or Window's Sound Hi Patricia, Not sure if you saw my response on the Jaws list, so here it is. do you get windows sounds, and/or Narrator to come up when you activate it? If you do, this may be a Jaws issue, and not necessarily a system volume problem like that other person suggested. If you aren't getting any sound of any kind, then it may be the volume is set to low, or the mute is on, in which case, you may be able to do the following: press insert+F11 to bring up the system tray. You'll have to trust that it's there and hope for the best. Smile. Once you do this, press the letter V and it should take you straight to the volume icon. This is assuming, of course, that the Volume icon is the only icon there starting with the letter V. If you absolutely know that it is not, then we may have a bit of trouble here. Suffice it to say, I don't think it hurts to try this anyway. Once you've pressed the letter V, tab twice to the left single click button and press the spacebar. You may have to wait a few seconds, as the Master Volume control may not pop up right away. Doing this will bring up only the slider and mute button for the master volume, so, after you've waited a couple of seconds, press the home key, and this will raise your volume to 100%. If this still doesn't bring any sound back to your computer, tab once and press the spacebar, as you will be on the mute checkbox, and if it's checked, this will bring back the sound. Once you've done all of this, and you still don't have any sound, I'm afraid you have to start looking in a different place for your solution, possibly a loos connection on the back of your computer, make sure the power button on the speakers are turned on and the volume of the speakers are turned up enough to hear it's sound, and also check to see if the power cord is plugged in to the electrical outlet where you have it plugged in. Other than that, you may have to get someone sighted to look at the sound card properties in the device manager and see if there are any yellow marks beside the sound card. If there are, you may have to go in and check out it's settings and make sure it's enabled. Let us know how you do. Victor Co-moderator Blind Movie Buffs List Guidedogs List Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com
Re: [Blind-Computing] No Speech or Window's Sound
if narrator is active, it should show in the task bar. bring task bar menu up with Jaws+F11 and then arrow down to narrator. Tab to the first option, which should be the right click option. this will bring up the application choices. tab down to exit program. this should work. regards chrissy ... I'm working on a dream Though sometimes it feels so far away I'm working on a dream And i know it will be mine someday ... From: "Patricia Dunbar" To: Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 6:58 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] No Speech or Window's Sound oh forgot...I haven't used narrator so just wondering how to close that out after I'm done? Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com
Re: [Blind-Computing] No Speech or Window's Sound
victor, I did the steps and no go. I came on my desktop and looked in teh control panel for vol control and saw or heard where the mute button was and then retried it aagain on his computer, but still nothing. The narrator did nothing either. We do have a desktop and the other screens windows seems to be working without speech however. Is there a way to raise the volume at the run command using a varable as a %100 with that sndvol32 command? I'm not going to try it as I sure don't want to make matters worse, but was just wondering. I did empty his Prefetch folder had a lot of items in there which probably won't do nothing for this problem but needed to be done.. - Original Message - From: "Victor" To: Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 8:37 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] No Speech or Window's Sound Hi Patricia, Not sure if you saw my response on the Jaws list, so here it is. do you get windows sounds, and/or Narrator to come up when you activate it? If you do, this may be a Jaws issue, and not necessarily a system volume problem like that other person suggested. If you aren't getting any sound of any kind, then it may be the volume is set to low, or the mute is on, in which case, you may be able to do the following: press insert+F11 to bring up the system tray. You'll have to trust that it's there and hope for the best. Smile. Once you do this, press the letter V and it should take you straight to the volume icon. This is assuming, of course, that the Volume icon is the only icon there starting with the letter V. If you absolutely know that it is not, then we may have a bit of trouble here. Suffice it to say, I don't think it hurts to try this anyway. Once you've pressed the letter V, tab twice to the left single click button and press the spacebar. You may have to wait a few seconds, as the Master Volume control may not pop up right away. Doing this will bring up only the slider and mute button for the master volume, so, after you've waited a couple of seconds, press the home key, and this will raise your volume to 100%. If this still doesn't bring any sound back to your computer, tab once and press the spacebar, as you will be on the mute checkbox, and if it's checked, this will bring back the sound. Once you've done all of this, and you still don't have any sound, I'm afraid you have to start looking in a different place for your solution, possibly a loos connection on the back of your computer, make sure the power button on the speakers are turned on and the volume of the speakers are turned up enough to hear it's sound, and also check to see if the power cord is plugged in to the electrical outlet where you have it plugged in. Other than that, you may have to get someone sighted to look at the sound card properties in the device manager and see if there are any yellow marks beside the sound card. If there are, you may have to go in and check out it's settings and make sure it's enabled. Let us know how you do. Victor Co-moderator Blind Movie Buffs List Guidedogs List Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com
Re: [Blind-Computing] No Speech or Window's Sound
Right to late for me here sorry about that was not thinking just kick me hard am of to bed now hope you get things running again soon Hugh Megarry skype hugh.megarry -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Patricia Dunbar Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 3:16 AM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] No Speech or Window's Sound well ok but with like no speech how might one find the close menu?? - Original Message - From: "Hugh Megarry" To: Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 9:13 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] No Speech or Window's Sound > to close it is in the menus to start is windows key plus u > > > Hugh Megarry > skype hugh.megarry > -Original Message- > From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com > [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rosemarie > Chavarria > Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 3:03 AM > To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] No Speech or Window's Sound > > Hi, Patricia. I used narrator just one time but that was three years ago. > I forgot how to close it. > Rosemarie > - Original Message - > From: "Patricia Dunbar" > To: > Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 6:58 PM > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] No Speech or Window's Sound > > >> oh forgot...I haven't used narrator so just wondering how to close that >> out >> after I'm done? >> ----- Original Message - >> From: "Victor" >> To: >> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 8:37 PM >> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] No Speech or Window's Sound >> >> >>> Hi Patricia, >>> >>> Not sure if you saw my response on the Jaws list, so here it is. >>> >>> do you get windows sounds, and/or Narrator to come up when you activate >>> it? >>> >>> If you do, this may be a Jaws issue, and not necessarily a system volume >>> problem like that other person suggested. >>> >>> If you aren't getting any sound of any kind, then it may be the volume >>> is >>> set to low, or the mute is on, in which case, you may be able to do the >>> following: >>> >>> press insert+F11 to bring up the system tray. You'll have to trust that >>> it's there and hope for the best. Smile. >>> >>> Once you do this, press the letter V and it should take you straight to >>> the >>> volume icon. This is assuming, of course, that the Volume icon is the >>> only >>> icon there starting with the letter V. If you absolutely know that it >>> is >>> not, then we may have a bit of trouble here. >>> >>> Suffice it to say, I don't think it hurts to try this anyway. >>> >>> Once you've pressed the letter V, tab twice to the left single click >>> button >>> and press the spacebar. You may have to wait a few seconds, as the >>> Master >>> Volume control may not pop up right away. >>> >>> Doing this will bring up only the slider and mute button for the master >>> volume, so, after you've waited a couple of seconds, press the home key, >>> and >>> this will raise your volume to 100%. If this still doesn't bring any >>> sound >>> back to your computer, tab once and press the spacebar, as you will be >>> on >>> the mute checkbox, and if it's checked, this will bring back the sound. >>> >>> Once you've done all of this, and you still don't have any sound, I'm >>> afraid >>> you have to start looking in a different place for your solution, >>> possibly >>> a >>> loos connection on the back of your computer, make sure the power button >>> on >>> the speakers are turned on and the volume of the speakers are turned up >>> enough to hear it's sound, and also check to see if the power cord is >>> plugged in to the electrical outlet where you have it plugged in. >>> >>> Other than that, you may have to get someone sighted to look at the >>> sound >>> card properties in the device manager and see if there are any yellow >>> marks >>> beside the sound card. >>> >>> If there are, you may have to go in and check out it's settings and make >>> sure it's enabled. >>> >>> Let us know how you do. >>> >>> >>> Victor >>> Co-moderato
Re: [Blind-Computing] No Speech or Window's Sound
well ok but with like no speech how might one find the close menu?? - Original Message - From: "Hugh Megarry" To: Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 9:13 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] No Speech or Window's Sound to close it is in the menus to start is windows key plus u Hugh Megarry skype hugh.megarry -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 3:03 AM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] No Speech or Window's Sound Hi, Patricia. I used narrator just one time but that was three years ago. I forgot how to close it. Rosemarie - Original Message - From: "Patricia Dunbar" To: Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 6:58 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] No Speech or Window's Sound oh forgot...I haven't used narrator so just wondering how to close that out after I'm done? - Original Message - From: "Victor" To: Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 8:37 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] No Speech or Window's Sound Hi Patricia, Not sure if you saw my response on the Jaws list, so here it is. do you get windows sounds, and/or Narrator to come up when you activate it? If you do, this may be a Jaws issue, and not necessarily a system volume problem like that other person suggested. If you aren't getting any sound of any kind, then it may be the volume is set to low, or the mute is on, in which case, you may be able to do the following: press insert+F11 to bring up the system tray. You'll have to trust that it's there and hope for the best. Smile. Once you do this, press the letter V and it should take you straight to the volume icon. This is assuming, of course, that the Volume icon is the only icon there starting with the letter V. If you absolutely know that it is not, then we may have a bit of trouble here. Suffice it to say, I don't think it hurts to try this anyway. Once you've pressed the letter V, tab twice to the left single click button and press the spacebar. You may have to wait a few seconds, as the Master Volume control may not pop up right away. Doing this will bring up only the slider and mute button for the master volume, so, after you've waited a couple of seconds, press the home key, and this will raise your volume to 100%. If this still doesn't bring any sound back to your computer, tab once and press the spacebar, as you will be on the mute checkbox, and if it's checked, this will bring back the sound. Once you've done all of this, and you still don't have any sound, I'm afraid you have to start looking in a different place for your solution, possibly a loos connection on the back of your computer, make sure the power button on the speakers are turned on and the volume of the speakers are turned up enough to hear it's sound, and also check to see if the power cord is plugged in to the electrical outlet where you have it plugged in. Other than that, you may have to get someone sighted to look at the sound card properties in the device manager and see if there are any yellow marks beside the sound card. If there are, you may have to go in and check out it's settings and make sure it's enabled. Let us know how you do. Victor Co-moderator Blind Movie Buffs List Guidedogs List Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-
Re: [Blind-Computing] No Speech or Window's Sound
to close it is in the menus to start is windows key plus u Hugh Megarry skype hugh.megarry -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 3:03 AM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] No Speech or Window's Sound Hi, Patricia. I used narrator just one time but that was three years ago. I forgot how to close it. Rosemarie - Original Message - From: "Patricia Dunbar" To: Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 6:58 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] No Speech or Window's Sound > oh forgot...I haven't used narrator so just wondering how to close that > out > after I'm done? > - Original Message - > From: "Victor" > To: > Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 8:37 PM > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] No Speech or Window's Sound > > >> Hi Patricia, >> >> Not sure if you saw my response on the Jaws list, so here it is. >> >> do you get windows sounds, and/or Narrator to come up when you activate >> it? >> >> If you do, this may be a Jaws issue, and not necessarily a system volume >> problem like that other person suggested. >> >> If you aren't getting any sound of any kind, then it may be the volume is >> set to low, or the mute is on, in which case, you may be able to do the >> following: >> >> press insert+F11 to bring up the system tray. You'll have to trust that >> it's there and hope for the best. Smile. >> >> Once you do this, press the letter V and it should take you straight to >> the >> volume icon. This is assuming, of course, that the Volume icon is the >> only >> icon there starting with the letter V. If you absolutely know that it is >> not, then we may have a bit of trouble here. >> >> Suffice it to say, I don't think it hurts to try this anyway. >> >> Once you've pressed the letter V, tab twice to the left single click >> button >> and press the spacebar. You may have to wait a few seconds, as the >> Master >> Volume control may not pop up right away. >> >> Doing this will bring up only the slider and mute button for the master >> volume, so, after you've waited a couple of seconds, press the home key, >> and >> this will raise your volume to 100%. If this still doesn't bring any >> sound >> back to your computer, tab once and press the spacebar, as you will be on >> the mute checkbox, and if it's checked, this will bring back the sound. >> >> Once you've done all of this, and you still don't have any sound, I'm >> afraid >> you have to start looking in a different place for your solution, >> possibly >> a >> loos connection on the back of your computer, make sure the power button >> on >> the speakers are turned on and the volume of the speakers are turned up >> enough to hear it's sound, and also check to see if the power cord is >> plugged in to the electrical outlet where you have it plugged in. >> >> Other than that, you may have to get someone sighted to look at the sound >> card properties in the device manager and see if there are any yellow >> marks >> beside the sound card. >> >> If there are, you may have to go in and check out it's settings and make >> sure it's enabled. >> >> Let us know how you do. >> >> >> Victor >> Co-moderator >> Blind Movie Buffs List >> Guidedogs List >> >> >> Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: >> http://www.jaws-users.com >> Visit the Blind Computing home page at: >> http://www.blind-computing.com >> Address for the list archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ >> To post to this group, send email to >> blind-computing@jaws-users.com >> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to >> blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com >> For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject >> or body of a blank message to: >> blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com >> Use the following address in order to contact the management team >> blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com >> If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the >> following address: >> jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com > > > Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: > http://www.jaws-users.com > Visit the Blind Computing home page
Re: [Blind-Computing] No Speech or Window's Sound
Hi, Patricia. I used narrator just one time but that was three years ago. I forgot how to close it. Rosemarie - Original Message - From: "Patricia Dunbar" To: Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 6:58 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] No Speech or Window's Sound oh forgot...I haven't used narrator so just wondering how to close that out after I'm done? - Original Message - From: "Victor" To: Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 8:37 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] No Speech or Window's Sound Hi Patricia, Not sure if you saw my response on the Jaws list, so here it is. do you get windows sounds, and/or Narrator to come up when you activate it? If you do, this may be a Jaws issue, and not necessarily a system volume problem like that other person suggested. If you aren't getting any sound of any kind, then it may be the volume is set to low, or the mute is on, in which case, you may be able to do the following: press insert+F11 to bring up the system tray. You'll have to trust that it's there and hope for the best. Smile. Once you do this, press the letter V and it should take you straight to the volume icon. This is assuming, of course, that the Volume icon is the only icon there starting with the letter V. If you absolutely know that it is not, then we may have a bit of trouble here. Suffice it to say, I don't think it hurts to try this anyway. Once you've pressed the letter V, tab twice to the left single click button and press the spacebar. You may have to wait a few seconds, as the Master Volume control may not pop up right away. Doing this will bring up only the slider and mute button for the master volume, so, after you've waited a couple of seconds, press the home key, and this will raise your volume to 100%. If this still doesn't bring any sound back to your computer, tab once and press the spacebar, as you will be on the mute checkbox, and if it's checked, this will bring back the sound. Once you've done all of this, and you still don't have any sound, I'm afraid you have to start looking in a different place for your solution, possibly a loos connection on the back of your computer, make sure the power button on the speakers are turned on and the volume of the speakers are turned up enough to hear it's sound, and also check to see if the power cord is plugged in to the electrical outlet where you have it plugged in. Other than that, you may have to get someone sighted to look at the sound card properties in the device manager and see if there are any yellow marks beside the sound card. If there are, you may have to go in and check out it's settings and make sure it's enabled. Let us know how you do. Victor Co-moderator Blind Movie Buffs List Guidedogs List Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.2/1964 - Release Date: 02/21/09 11:05:00 Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws
Re: [Blind-Computing] No Speech or Window's Sound
oh forgot...I haven't used narrator so just wondering how to close that out after I'm done? - Original Message - From: "Victor" To: Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 8:37 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] No Speech or Window's Sound Hi Patricia, Not sure if you saw my response on the Jaws list, so here it is. do you get windows sounds, and/or Narrator to come up when you activate it? If you do, this may be a Jaws issue, and not necessarily a system volume problem like that other person suggested. If you aren't getting any sound of any kind, then it may be the volume is set to low, or the mute is on, in which case, you may be able to do the following: press insert+F11 to bring up the system tray. You'll have to trust that it's there and hope for the best. Smile. Once you do this, press the letter V and it should take you straight to the volume icon. This is assuming, of course, that the Volume icon is the only icon there starting with the letter V. If you absolutely know that it is not, then we may have a bit of trouble here. Suffice it to say, I don't think it hurts to try this anyway. Once you've pressed the letter V, tab twice to the left single click button and press the spacebar. You may have to wait a few seconds, as the Master Volume control may not pop up right away. Doing this will bring up only the slider and mute button for the master volume, so, after you've waited a couple of seconds, press the home key, and this will raise your volume to 100%. If this still doesn't bring any sound back to your computer, tab once and press the spacebar, as you will be on the mute checkbox, and if it's checked, this will bring back the sound. Once you've done all of this, and you still don't have any sound, I'm afraid you have to start looking in a different place for your solution, possibly a loos connection on the back of your computer, make sure the power button on the speakers are turned on and the volume of the speakers are turned up enough to hear it's sound, and also check to see if the power cord is plugged in to the electrical outlet where you have it plugged in. Other than that, you may have to get someone sighted to look at the sound card properties in the device manager and see if there are any yellow marks beside the sound card. If there are, you may have to go in and check out it's settings and make sure it's enabled. Let us know how you do. Victor Co-moderator Blind Movie Buffs List Guidedogs List Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com
Re: [Blind-Computing] No Speech or Window's Sound
Hi Patricia, Not sure if you saw my response on the Jaws list, so here it is. do you get windows sounds, and/or Narrator to come up when you activate it? If you do, this may be a Jaws issue, and not necessarily a system volume problem like that other person suggested. If you aren't getting any sound of any kind, then it may be the volume is set to low, or the mute is on, in which case, you may be able to do the following: press insert+F11 to bring up the system tray. You'll have to trust that it's there and hope for the best. Smile. Once you do this, press the letter V and it should take you straight to the volume icon. This is assuming, of course, that the Volume icon is the only icon there starting with the letter V. If you absolutely know that it is not, then we may have a bit of trouble here. Suffice it to say, I don't think it hurts to try this anyway. Once you've pressed the letter V, tab twice to the left single click button and press the spacebar. You may have to wait a few seconds, as the Master Volume control may not pop up right away. Doing this will bring up only the slider and mute button for the master volume, so, after you've waited a couple of seconds, press the home key, and this will raise your volume to 100%. If this still doesn't bring any sound back to your computer, tab once and press the spacebar, as you will be on the mute checkbox, and if it's checked, this will bring back the sound. Once you've done all of this, and you still don't have any sound, I'm afraid you have to start looking in a different place for your solution, possibly a loos connection on the back of your computer, make sure the power button on the speakers are turned on and the volume of the speakers are turned up enough to hear it's sound, and also check to see if the power cord is plugged in to the electrical outlet where you have it plugged in. Other than that, you may have to get someone sighted to look at the sound card properties in the device manager and see if there are any yellow marks beside the sound card. If there are, you may have to go in and check out it's settings and make sure it's enabled. Let us know how you do. Victor Co-moderator Blind Movie Buffs List Guidedogs List Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com
[Blind-Computing] No Speech or Window's Sound
**I posted this first on the Jaws users list and this guy has told me to type at the run box, sndvol32 and enter. then he said to tab 2 times and press the spacebar to uncheck the mute button. I have tried this and it has not worked. He has now suggested I do it again and tab 5 times to spacebar the wav synthesizer button and I will try this next. I wanted to ask this list as well if this is all I can do?** Help please again for getting the jaws/windows sounds when first boot up the computer. I have done all I know to do and now I need the professionals. I know one time this happened before and we had to type something at the run dialogue and just not sure what that is? This is an xp pro with jaws 9 plus. Thanks so much, Patricia Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com