Re: [Blind-Computing] Radio stations that use annoying Flash

2009-08-03 Thread Donald Marang
I might get my daughter to look at the site late tonight.  I may be able to 
magnify it enough to figure it out.  I think you must select a stream format 
before activating the "LISTEN NOW" button.  These sites really bug me!  The 
developers   obviously spent a lot of effort to support so many podcast and 
streaming formats.  There goal is to reach as many people as possible! 
Unfortunately, they totally neglected working with assistive technology, and 
thus a large community!


I did email them with nice, constructive suggestions of where the 
accessibility issues are and lead them in the right direction.  mostly, the 
developers need to know there is an issue with accessibility of their site.


Don Marang


- Original Message - 
From: "Lino and Louie" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 1:07 PM
Subject: [Blind-Computing] Radio stations that use annoying Flash



Yeah Don. I just visited that site and I like you use System Access and I
couldn't get the listen now button. I keep banging my head up against a 
wall

when I encounter streams that use Flash. I can't ever CTRL the volume.
Certain streams has the slider, but using the vitural mouse, I can only 
turn

a particular stream to 48 percent.
Lino Morales
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- Original Message - 
From: "Donald Marang" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 3:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Is this website accessible?


Hi Mark,

This site seems very difficult,.  I had no problems subscribing to their
podcasts.  They support a wide variety of readers.  They also seem to
provide a variety of live and archived streams, including MP3 and
uncompressed.  I was not able to get any of these streams to start.
Apparently there are icons inside the Flash object for the different
formats.  Unfortunately, JAWS does not seem to be able to position the 
JAWS

cursor within the Flash object.  I could not find a "play" button.  The
closest thing I could find was a "LISTEN NOW" Flash button, which did
nothing.  Using system Access did no better.

If you want to look through the archives, Internet Explorer 7 does not 
work

well with the combo boxes to select program, host or time.  Firefox 3.5.1
handled these controls normally.  I still had the same problems playing 
the

archive I selected that I had with the live stream.

I would contact them to let them know that you are unable to select  a
format and start the stream.  They seem to know  about streaming, but I
don't think their Flash objects have accessibility enabled.  They need to
modify their Flash objects.  At least accessibility code needs to be 
enabled

/ added to these critical controls to start the stream.

Don Marang


- Original Message - 
From: "Mark" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 12:35 PM
Subject: [Blind-Computing] Is this website accessible?



Hi

Recently I tried to play music from a public radio website. Every 
time

I click the play button nothing happens. I am using the latest version of
Jaws and Vista. I was wondering if people could check out the following
link and tell me how to access this site please?

http://kexp.org/streamarchive/streamarchive.asp
Thank you.

God bless,
Mark
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Re: [Blind-Computing] Radio stations that use annoying Flash

2009-08-03 Thread janet smith

yeh another site that is annoying is www.pandora.com
chec out www.95themix.com
for great programing and music
- Original Message - 
From: "Lino and Louie" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 11:07 AM
Subject: [Blind-Computing] Radio stations that use annoying Flash



Yeah Don. I just visited that site and I like you use System Access and I
couldn't get the listen now button. I keep banging my head up against a 
wall

when I encounter streams that use Flash. I can't ever CTRL the volume.
Certain streams has the slider, but using the vitural mouse, I can only 
turn

a particular stream to 48 percent.
Lino Morales
Remember, friends don't let friends go to hell.
Email and Windows Live Messenger:
lino.mora...@lljfm.net
Skype lino_and_louie
Twitter:
www.twitter.com/lino_and_louie
For Blind Christian Men, visit:
http://morales-family.lljfm.net/mailman/listinfo/blindmen4christ_morales-family
to subscribe to Blind Men For Christ.
And check out our site at:
www.lljfm.net
where you'll find our blog and other links.
- Original Message - 
From: "Donald Marang" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 3:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Is this website accessible?


Hi Mark,

This site seems very difficult,.  I had no problems subscribing to their
podcasts.  They support a wide variety of readers.  They also seem to
provide a variety of live and archived streams, including MP3 and
uncompressed.  I was not able to get any of these streams to start.
Apparently there are icons inside the Flash object for the different
formats.  Unfortunately, JAWS does not seem to be able to position the 
JAWS

cursor within the Flash object.  I could not find a "play" button.  The
closest thing I could find was a "LISTEN NOW" Flash button, which did
nothing.  Using system Access did no better.

If you want to look through the archives, Internet Explorer 7 does not 
work

well with the combo boxes to select program, host or time.  Firefox 3.5.1
handled these controls normally.  I still had the same problems playing 
the

archive I selected that I had with the live stream.

I would contact them to let them know that you are unable to select  a
format and start the stream.  They seem to know  about streaming, but I
don't think their Flash objects have accessibility enabled.  They need to
modify their Flash objects.  At least accessibility code needs to be 
enabled

/ added to these critical controls to start the stream.

Don Marang


- Original Message - 
From: "Mark" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 12:35 PM
Subject: [Blind-Computing] Is this website accessible?



Hi

Recently I tried to play music from a public radio website. Every 
time

I click the play button nothing happens. I am using the latest version of
Jaws and Vista. I was wondering if people could check out the following
link and tell me how to access this site please?

http://kexp.org/streamarchive/streamarchive.asp
Thank you.

God bless,
Mark
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[Blind-Computing] Radio stations that use annoying Flash

2009-08-03 Thread Lino and Louie
Yeah Don. I just visited that site and I like you use System Access and I 
couldn't get the listen now button. I keep banging my head up against a wall 
when I encounter streams that use Flash. I can't ever CTRL the volume. 
Certain streams has the slider, but using the vitural mouse, I can only turn 
a particular stream to 48 percent.
Lino Morales
Remember, friends don't let friends go to hell.
Email and Windows Live Messenger:
lino.mora...@lljfm.net
Skype lino_and_louie
Twitter:
www.twitter.com/lino_and_louie
For Blind Christian Men, visit:
http://morales-family.lljfm.net/mailman/listinfo/blindmen4christ_morales-family
to subscribe to Blind Men For Christ.
And check out our site at:
www.lljfm.net
where you'll find our blog and other links.
- Original Message - 
From: "Donald Marang" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 3:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Is this website accessible?


Hi Mark,

This site seems very difficult,.  I had no problems subscribing to their
podcasts.  They support a wide variety of readers.  They also seem to
provide a variety of live and archived streams, including MP3 and
uncompressed.  I was not able to get any of these streams to start.
Apparently there are icons inside the Flash object for the different
formats.  Unfortunately, JAWS does not seem to be able to position the JAWS
cursor within the Flash object.  I could not find a "play" button.  The
closest thing I could find was a "LISTEN NOW" Flash button, which did
nothing.  Using system Access did no better.

If you want to look through the archives, Internet Explorer 7 does not work
well with the combo boxes to select program, host or time.  Firefox 3.5.1
handled these controls normally.  I still had the same problems playing the
archive I selected that I had with the live stream.

I would contact them to let them know that you are unable to select  a
format and start the stream.  They seem to know  about streaming, but I
don't think their Flash objects have accessibility enabled.  They need to
modify their Flash objects.  At least accessibility code needs to be enabled
/ added to these critical controls to start the stream.

Don Marang


- Original Message - 
From: "Mark" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 12:35 PM
Subject: [Blind-Computing] Is this website accessible?


> Hi
>
> Recently I tried to play music from a public radio website. Every time
> I click the play button nothing happens. I am using the latest version of
> Jaws and Vista. I was wondering if people could check out the following
> link and tell me how to access this site please?
>
> http://kexp.org/streamarchive/streamarchive.asp
> Thank you.
>
> God bless,
> Mark
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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