Re: [Blind-Computing] The Kindle Book Reader
Good morning listers, I have already spoken to tech support at amazon and they thought talking menus would be possible and the tech rep told me that he would be sure and put it in for suggestions of future improvement. Rick -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Marilyn Walker Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 04:10 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] The Kindle Book Reader Yes, Jacob, it is irritating. Don't these companies have a clue about potential audiences of paying customers? I'm going to let AMazon know. Marilyn For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] The Kindle Book Reader
Well, it also seems that software doesn't do too much more than try to allow you to manage the content on your reader hardware, since when someone tried installing it here at work, they reckon it wants account details, and doesn't seem to have much in it relating to actually trying to read anything as such. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 03:54:20 -0800, Rick Watson rwat...@eckeranch.com wrote: Good morning listers, I have already spoken to tech support at amazon and they thought talking menus would be possible and the tech rep told me that he would be sure and put it in for suggestions of future improvement. Rick -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Marilyn Walker Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 04:10 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] The Kindle Book Reader Yes, Jacob, it is irritating. Don't these companies have a clue about potential audiences of paying customers? I'm going to let AMazon know. Marilyn For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] The Kindle Book Reader
Hey, Mark: Thanks for your research. Since this Kindel software thing isn't my only recent problem witih registrations, I suspect a firewall or antivirus or antispyware blocking. Let us know what you discover. marilyn For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] The Kindle Book Reader
It is also a stand alone portable book reader. Lino Morales Remember, friends don't let friends go to hell. Email and Windows Live Messenger: lino.mora...@lljfm.net Skype lino_and_louie Twitter: www.twitter.com/lino_and_louie For Blind Christian Men, visit: http://morales-family.lljfm.net/mailman/listinfo/blindmen4christ_morales-family to subscribe to Blind Men For Christ. And check out our site at: www.lljfm.net where you'll find our blog and other links. - Original Message - From: Marilyn Walker mlw1...@sbcglobal.net To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 5:36 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] The Kindle Book Reader It's a software package for the computer. BUt two of us so far have been unable to complete the process of registration. It's a good idea gone awry. marilyn For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] The Kindle Book Reader
Hi Yes, a person can buy the stand alone reader but in America they cost $259 to something over $550. I did not see any price on the software down load for the computer. I am thinking if the software would work I could use it on my laptop. God bless, Mark - Original Message - From: Lino and Louie lino.mora...@lljfm.net To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 9:59 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] The Kindle Book Reader It is also a stand alone portable book reader. Lino Morales Remember, friends don't let friends go to hell. Email and Windows Live Messenger: lino.mora...@lljfm.net Skype lino_and_louie Twitter: www.twitter.com/lino_and_louie For Blind Christian Men, visit: http://morales-family.lljfm.net/mailman/listinfo/blindmen4christ_morales-family to subscribe to Blind Men For Christ. And check out our site at: www.lljfm.net where you'll find our blog and other links. - Original Message - From: Marilyn Walker mlw1...@sbcglobal.net To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 5:36 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] The Kindle Book Reader It's a software package for the computer. BUt two of us so far have been unable to complete the process of registration. It's a good idea gone awry. marilyn For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] The Kindle Book Reader
The kindel pc software is free. Of course, the downloads aren't but that's ok. Personally, I think it's time for the proliferation of proprietary book readers to somehow get together. AUdible.com books won't play on the kindel, etc. and on and on. It seems to me that the Victor REader Stream could be modified so that we could play kindel books on it. AT least, Amazon would be able to sell the book downloads. marilyn For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] The Kindle Book Reader
The software doesn't cost anything. there is a problem, though. I had the same problem as the others when trying to download the software so, I had my boyfriends sighted assistance and completed the registration. You only have to put in the email you use for signing into Amazon and your password you use there as well but you have to have a sighted person to use the mouse to click on the edit boxes to fill in that info. After I got that done, I still am unable to use the software. I have a book that I purchased from Amazon some time ago that you read on a kindle so, I was going to try it with the software...nothing happens. The Kindle software screen pops up when clicking on the book title (I have it saved in My Documents) and that is it. there is nothing on the screen as far as screen readers are concerned. I haven't asked my boyfriend yet if the book is displayed on the screen yet...I thought I'd let everyone know about the software first...so, it's still not accessible after registration. Melissa - Original Message - From: Mark torgersonena...@gmail.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 4:16 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] The Kindle Book Reader Hi Yes, a person can buy the stand alone reader but in America they cost $259 to something over $550. I did not see any price on the software down load for the computer. I am thinking if the software would work I could use it on my laptop. God bless, Mark - Original Message - From: Lino and Louie lino.mora...@lljfm.net To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 9:59 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] The Kindle Book Reader It is also a stand alone portable book reader. Lino Morales Remember, friends don't let friends go to hell. Email and Windows Live Messenger: lino.mora...@lljfm.net Skype lino_and_louie Twitter: www.twitter.com/lino_and_louie For Blind Christian Men, visit: http://morales-family.lljfm.net/mailman/listinfo/blindmen4christ_morales-family to subscribe to Blind Men For Christ. And check out our site at: www.lljfm.net where you'll find our blog and other links. - Original Message - From: Marilyn Walker mlw1...@sbcglobal.net To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 5:36 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] The Kindle Book Reader It's a software package for the computer. BUt two of us so far have been unable to complete the process of registration. It's a good idea gone awry. marilyn For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] The Kindle Book Reader
Sounds like a bad idea all around or almost any way. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com VIP Conduit Tech Support www.vipconduit.com - Original Message - From: Mystical Charm hambleto...@verizon.net To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 4:33 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] The Kindle Book Reader The software doesn't cost anything. there is a problem, though. I had the same problem as the others when trying to download the software so, I had my boyfriends sighted assistance and completed the registration. You only have to put in the email you use for signing into Amazon and your password you use there as well but you have to have a sighted person to use the mouse to click on the edit boxes to fill in that info. After I got that done, I still am unable to use the software. I have a book that I purchased from Amazon some time ago that you read on a kindle so, I was going to try it with the software...nothing happens. The Kindle software screen pops up when clicking on the book title (I have it saved in My Documents) and that is it. there is nothing on the screen as far as screen readers are concerned. I haven't asked my boyfriend yet if the book is displayed on the screen yet...I thought I'd let everyone know about the software first...so, it's still not accessible after registration. Melissa - Original Message - From: Mark torgersonena...@gmail.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 4:16 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] The Kindle Book Reader Hi Yes, a person can buy the stand alone reader but in America they cost $259 to something over $550. I did not see any price on the software down load for the computer. I am thinking if the software would work I could use it on my laptop. God bless, Mark - Original Message - From: Lino and Louie lino.mora...@lljfm.net To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 9:59 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] The Kindle Book Reader It is also a stand alone portable book reader. Lino Morales Remember, friends don't let friends go to hell. Email and Windows Live Messenger: lino.mora...@lljfm.net Skype lino_and_louie Twitter: www.twitter.com/lino_and_louie For Blind Christian Men, visit: http://morales-family.lljfm.net/mailman/listinfo/blindmen4christ_morales-family to subscribe to Blind Men For Christ. And check out our site at: www.lljfm.net where you'll find our blog and other links. - Original Message - From: Marilyn Walker mlw1...@sbcglobal.net To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 5:36 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] The Kindle Book Reader It's a software package for the computer. BUt two of us so far have been unable to complete the process of registration. It's a good idea gone awry. marilyn For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] The Kindle Book Reader
Hi Perhaps if we let Amazon know that there is a good market for accessible software they may make an accessible version? God bless, Mark - Original Message - From: David Ferrin d...@jaws-users.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 1:38 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] The Kindle Book Reader Sounds like a bad idea all around or almost any way. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com VIP Conduit Tech Support www.vipconduit.com - Original Message - From: Mystical Charm hambleto...@verizon.net To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 4:33 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] The Kindle Book Reader The software doesn't cost anything. there is a problem, though. I had the same problem as the others when trying to download the software so, I had my boyfriends sighted assistance and completed the registration. You only have to put in the email you use for signing into Amazon and your password you use there as well but you have to have a sighted person to use the mouse to click on the edit boxes to fill in that info. After I got that done, I still am unable to use the software. I have a book that I purchased from Amazon some time ago that you read on a kindle so, I was going to try it with the software...nothing happens. The Kindle software screen pops up when clicking on the book title (I have it saved in My Documents) and that is it. there is nothing on the screen as far as screen readers are concerned. I haven't asked my boyfriend yet if the book is displayed on the screen yet...I thought I'd let everyone know about the software first...so, it's still not accessible after registration. Melissa - Original Message - From: Mark torgersonena...@gmail.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 4:16 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] The Kindle Book Reader Hi Yes, a person can buy the stand alone reader but in America they cost $259 to something over $550. I did not see any price on the software down load for the computer. I am thinking if the software would work I could use it on my laptop. God bless, Mark - Original Message - From: Lino and Louie lino.mora...@lljfm.net To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 9:59 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] The Kindle Book Reader It is also a stand alone portable book reader. Lino Morales Remember, friends don't let friends go to hell. Email and Windows Live Messenger: lino.mora...@lljfm.net Skype lino_and_louie Twitter: www.twitter.com/lino_and_louie For Blind Christian Men, visit: http://morales-family.lljfm.net/mailman/listinfo/blindmen4christ_morales-family to subscribe to Blind Men For Christ. And check out our site at: www.lljfm.net where you'll find our blog and other links. - Original Message - From: Marilyn Walker mlw1...@sbcglobal.net To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 5:36 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] The Kindle Book Reader It's a software package for the computer. BUt two of us so far have been unable to complete the process of registration. It's a good idea gone awry. marilyn For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] The Kindle Book Reader
Melissa, thanks for this. Isn't it just ridiculous to put up with this crap? marilyn For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] The Kindle Book Reader
Mark, the thing is that Amazon probably thinks the pc version is just fine. What they and other vendors on line need to do is hire an assistive tech person to do these programs right. BUt they are so arrogant they think they know everything already. marilyn For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] The Kindle Book Reader
Here's a webpage for some PC software called KindleForPC, but haven't gotten around to trying it out and seeing if it's actually usable etc.: http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html?ie=UTF8docId=1000426311 Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: John Melia uncle...@verizon.net To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 4:30 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] The Kindle Book Reader the kindle book reader is not accessible to the blind at this time. - Original Message - From: Francis E. Khan fek...@tstt.net.tt To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 7:16 PM Subject: [Blind-Computing] The Kindle Book Reader There was a time when the Kindle reader offered so much and I want to know whether there is an audio facility to read books to vi people. How much does it cost and are the books expensive to purchase? Francis Khan For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4597 (2009) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4600 (20091112) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] The Kindle Book Reader
Jacob, I tried it and it quits at the registration point. Internet explorer gave a security warning before the download started so i went ahead and did the installation directions but it stopped on the registration. Would like to hear others' experiences. marilyn For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] The Kindle Book Reader
Ok, just tried it myself now and, yes, couldn't carry out the registration process. Will maybe get a sighted person to have a look tomorrow at work, and let's see...but, yes, irritating... Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: Marilyn Walker mlw1...@sbcglobal.net To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 9:45 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] The Kindle Book Reader Jacob, I tried it and it quits at the registration point. Internet explorer gave a security warning before the download started so i went ahead and did the installation directions but it stopped on the registration. Would like to hear others' experiences. marilyn For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4601 (20091112) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4601 (20091112) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] The Kindle Book Reader
Yes, Jacob, it is irritating. Don't these companies have a clue about potential audiences of paying customers? I'm going to let AMazon know. Marilyn For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] The Kindle Book Reader
It's a software package for the computer. BUt two of us so far have been unable to complete the process of registration. It's a good idea gone awry. marilyn For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] The Kindle Book Reader
The one I'm specifically talking about is the software package. I also found something that's supposed to be able to extract content from/convert kindle books into other formats, called Calibre, but it's also not really accessible as such. Stay well Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: Mark torgersonena...@gmail.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 12:33 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] The Kindle Book Reader Hi Is The Kindle Book Reader you are discussing the stand alone unit or is it a software package for the computer? God bless, Mark - Original Message - From: Jacob Kruger jac...@mailzone.co.za To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 12:41 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] The Kindle Book Reader Ok, just tried it myself now and, yes, couldn't carry out the registration process. Will maybe get a sighted person to have a look tomorrow at work, and let's see...but, yes, irritating... Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: Marilyn Walker mlw1...@sbcglobal.net To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 9:45 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] The Kindle Book Reader Jacob, I tried it and it quits at the registration point. Internet explorer gave a security warning before the download started so i went ahead and did the installation directions but it stopped on the registration. Would like to hear others' experiences. marilyn For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4601 (20091112) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4601 (20091112) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4601 (20091112) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4601 (20091112) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] The Kindle Book Reader
Hi After reading that there was a software version of the Kindle Book Reader, I did some research on Amazon and found a link that appeared to want to down load the software. Then just like was reported on the list a registration window popped up that is in accessible. After setting JAWS to unrestricted I noticed that there was some strange text that said things like 1 KB. I am not sure what that is. Three things have come to mind. First, perhaps the fire wall/anti virus is blocking it communicating to the internet? Second, if this is a webpage perhaps my pop up blocker is blocking the next window from showing? Finally, if by some strange twist of fate the down load speed is actually 1 KB then it is going to take a long time for that registration window to display. I was not able to test any of these ideas but perhaps someone else might find them handy. All I can do to help at the moment is offer ideas on where one might start looking for the answer. God bless, Mark - Original Message - From: Jacob Kruger jac...@mailzone.co.za To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 7:07 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] The Kindle Book Reader The one I'm specifically talking about is the software package. I also found something that's supposed to be able to extract content from/convert kindle books into other formats, called Calibre, but it's also not really accessible as such. Stay well Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: Mark torgersonena...@gmail.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 12:33 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] The Kindle Book Reader Hi Is The Kindle Book Reader you are discussing the stand alone unit or is it a software package for the computer? God bless, Mark - Original Message - From: Jacob Kruger jac...@mailzone.co.za To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 12:41 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] The Kindle Book Reader Ok, just tried it myself now and, yes, couldn't carry out the registration process. Will maybe get a sighted person to have a look tomorrow at work, and let's see...but, yes, irritating... Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: Marilyn Walker mlw1...@sbcglobal.net To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 9:45 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] The Kindle Book Reader Jacob, I tried it and it quits at the registration point. Internet explorer gave a security warning before the download started so i went ahead and did the installation directions but it stopped on the registration. Would like to hear others' experiences. marilyn For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4601 (20091112) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4601 (20091112) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4601 (20091112) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4601 (20091112) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[Blind-Computing] The Kindle Book Reader
There was a time when the Kindle reader offered so much and I want to know whether there is an audio facility to read books to vi people. How much does it cost and are the books expensive to purchase? Francis Khan For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] The Kindle Book Reader
the kindle book reader is not accessible to the blind at this time. - Original Message - From: Francis E. Khan fek...@tstt.net.tt To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 7:16 PM Subject: [Blind-Computing] The Kindle Book Reader There was a time when the Kindle reader offered so much and I want to know whether there is an audio facility to read books to vi people. How much does it cost and are the books expensive to purchase? Francis Khan For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
