Re: [Blind-Computing] question about a problem i had and is now fixt
FWIW, although my KNFB Reader can't read screens since it's apparently something to do with light etc., the woman who sort of got me back onto computers last year, in fact uses a small hand-held thing that renders whatevers under it's surface into braille on her palm, and she does in fact sometimes use it to check out stuff on her computer screen. Not sure what it is/is called, but, like I said, she does in fact use it to 'check out' stuff on the screen that she's not sure of. Just know she did in fact say it was a relatively expensive thing, but might still sometimes be worth it - will maybe try get hold of her and find out what it is. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...Fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: Alan Terrie Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 2:08 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] question about a problem i had and is now fixt That is a great question and one I've been asking to many folks for a long time. I've never heard of a solution. It would seem to me someone could develop some type of USB plug in unit to read screens prior to an OS loading etc Al -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mich Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 3:29 PM To: blind-computing @jaws-users.com Subject: [Blind-Computing] question about a problum i had and is now fixt hello all. Earlier today my pc ended up going in to safe moad. I called a sighted person to come over from the computer store to tell me what is on the screen. they said that it was showing a blue screen and that there were error messages on the screen about a corrupted file. He did a scan disk and then loaded windows from the windows cd. Things are working fine but my question is as some one who is blind could I fix this problem with out sighted assistance if it happens again? and how would you prevent this problem from happening again? At the time I had no windows music or jaws or speech output of any kind. Many Thanks for your insights on this and take care. from Mich Verrier from New Liskeard Ontario Canada. Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/BlindComputing.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/BlindComputing.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/BlindComputing.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Blind-Computing] question about a problem i had and is now fixt
I'm wondering if it is an Opticon. But I did not know they could read text from a screen Annette -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 2:46 AM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] question about a problem i had and is now fixt FWIW, although my KNFB Reader can't read screens since it's apparently something to do with light etc., the woman who sort of got me back onto computers last year, in fact uses a small hand-held thing that renders whatevers under it's surface into braille on her palm, and she does in fact sometimes use it to check out stuff on her computer screen. Not sure what it is/is called, but, like I said, she does in fact use it to 'check out' stuff on the screen that she's not sure of. Just know she did in fact say it was a relatively expensive thing, but might still sometimes be worth it - will maybe try get hold of her and find out what it is. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...Fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: Alan Terrie Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 2:08 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] question about a problem i had and is now fixt That is a great question and one I've been asking to many folks for a long time. I've never heard of a solution. It would seem to me someone could develop some type of USB plug in unit to read screens prior to an OS loading etc Al -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mich Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 3:29 PM To: blind-computing @jaws-users.com Subject: [Blind-Computing] question about a problum i had and is now fixt hello all. Earlier today my pc ended up going in to safe moad. I called a sighted person to come over from the computer store to tell me what is on the screen. they said that it was showing a blue screen and that there were error messages on the screen about a corrupted file. He did a scan disk and then loaded windows from the windows cd. Things are working fine but my question is as some one who is blind could I fix this problem with out sighted assistance if it happens again? and how would you prevent this problem from happening again? At the time I had no windows music or jaws or speech output of any kind. Many Thanks for your insights on this and take care. from Mich Verrier from New Liskeard Ontario Canada. Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/BlindComputing.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/BlindComputing.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/BlindComputing.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order
Re: [Blind-Computing] question about a problem i had and is now fixt
TSI sold a special lens that could be used to read the computer screen. I am an old computer programmer and used such a lens before talking computers. George R. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Annette [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 4:20 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] question about a problem i had and is now fixt I'm wondering if it is an Opticon. But I did not know they could read text from a screen Annette -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 2:46 AM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] question about a problem i had and is now fixt FWIW, although my KNFB Reader can't read screens since it's apparently something to do with light etc., the woman who sort of got me back onto computers last year, in fact uses a small hand-held thing that renders whatevers under it's surface into braille on her palm, and she does in fact sometimes use it to check out stuff on her computer screen. Not sure what it is/is called, but, like I said, she does in fact use it to 'check out' stuff on the screen that she's not sure of. Just know she did in fact say it was a relatively expensive thing, but might still sometimes be worth it - will maybe try get hold of her and find out what it is. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...Fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: Alan Terrie Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 2:08 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] question about a problem i had and is now fixt That is a great question and one I've been asking to many folks for a long time. I've never heard of a solution. It would seem to me someone could develop some type of USB plug in unit to read screens prior to an OS loading etc Al -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mich Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 3:29 PM To: blind-computing @jaws-users.com Subject: [Blind-Computing] question about a problum i had and is now fixt hello all. Earlier today my pc ended up going in to safe moad. I called a sighted person to come over from the computer store to tell me what is on the screen. they said that it was showing a blue screen and that there were error messages on the screen about a corrupted file. He did a scan disk and then loaded windows from the windows cd. Things are working fine but my question is as some one who is blind could I fix this problem with out sighted assistance if it happens again? and how would you prevent this problem from happening again? At the time I had no windows music or jaws or speech output of any kind. Many Thanks for your insights on this and take care. from Mich Verrier from New Liskeard Ontario Canada. Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/BlindComputing.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/BlindComputing.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/BlindComputing.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit
Re: [Blind-Computing] question about a problem i had and is now fixt
That is a great question and one I've been asking to many folks for a long time. I've never heard of a solution. It would seem to me someone could develop some type of USB plug in unit to read screens prior to an OS loading etc Al -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mich Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 3:29 PM To: blind-computing @jaws-users.com Subject: [Blind-Computing] question about a problum i had and is now fixt hello all. Earlier today my pc ended up going in to safe moad. I called a sighted person to come over from the computer store to tell me what is on the screen. they said that it was showing a blue screen and that there were error messages on the screen about a corrupted file. He did a scan disk and then loaded windows from the windows cd. Things are working fine but my question is as some one who is blind could I fix this problem with out sighted assistance if it happens again? and how would you prevent this problem from happening again? At the time I had no windows music or jaws or speech output of any kind. Many Thanks for your insights on this and take care. from Mich Verrier from New Liskeard Ontario Canada. Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/BlindComputing.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/BlindComputing.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Blind-Computing] question about a problem i had and is now fixt
that would not work. drivers are not loaded at system start up. SAg - Original Message - From: Alan Terrie Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 4:08 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] question about a problem i had and is now fixt That is a great question and one I've been asking to many folks for a long time. I've never heard of a solution. It would seem to me someone could develop some type of USB plug in unit to read screens prior to an OS loading etc Al -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mich Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 3:29 PM To: blind-computing @jaws-users.com Subject: [Blind-Computing] question about a problum i had and is now fixt hello all. Earlier today my pc ended up going in to safe moad. I called a sighted person to come over from the computer store to tell me what is on the screen. they said that it was showing a blue screen and that there were error messages on the screen about a corrupted file. He did a scan disk and then loaded windows from the windows cd. Things are working fine but my question is as some one who is blind could I fix this problem with out sighted assistance if it happens again? and how would you prevent this problem from happening again? At the time I had no windows music or jaws or speech output of any kind. Many Thanks for your insights on this and take care. from Mich Verrier from New Liskeard Ontario Canada. Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/BlindComputing.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/BlindComputing.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/BlindComputing.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Blind-Computing] question about a problem i had and is now fixt
You are right, but you could make the soun^ drivers internal so they don't come from the computer, but from a ,,cd or something. Thanks Nimer J On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:10:55 -0800, Sarah wrote: that would not work. drivers are not loaded at system start up. SAg - Original Message - From: Alan Terrie Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 4:08 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] question about a problem i had and is now fixt That is a great question and one I've been asking to many folks for a long time. I've never heard of a solution. It would seem to me someone could develop some type of USB plug in unit to read screens prior to an OS loading etc Al -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mich Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 3:29 PM To: blind-computing @jaws-users.com Subject: [Blind-Computing] question about a problum i had and is now fixt hello all. Earlier today my pc ended up going in to safe moad. I called a sighted person to come over from the computer store to tell me what is on the screen. they said that it was showing a blue screen and that there were error messages on the screen about a corrupted file. He did a scan disk and then loaded windows from the windows cd. Things are working fine but my question is as some one who is blind could I fix this problem with out sighted assistance if it happens again? and how would you prevent this problem from happening again? At the time I had no windows music or jaws or speech output of any kind. Many Thanks for your insights on this and take care. from Mich Verrier from New Liskeard Ontario Canada. Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/BlindComputing.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/BlindComputing.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/BlindComputing.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/BlindComputing.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Blind-Computing] question about a problem i had and is now fixt
I've never heard of such a thing but that does not mean it doesn't exist. yeah if that could be done then you can probably envent something. S*AG - Original Message - From: Nimer Jaber [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 1969 9:41 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] question about a problem i had and is now fixt You are right, but you could make the soun^ drivers internal so they don't come from the computer, but from a ,,cd or something. Thanks Nimer J On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:10:55 -0800, Sarah wrote: that would not work. drivers are not loaded at system start up. SAg - Original Message - From: Alan Terrie Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 4:08 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] question about a problem i had and is now fixt That is a great question and one I've been asking to many folks for a long time. I've never heard of a solution. It would seem to me someone could develop some type of USB plug in unit to read screens prior to an OS loading etc Al -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mich Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 3:29 PM To: blind-computing @jaws-users.com Subject: [Blind-Computing] question about a problum i had and is now fixt hello all. Earlier today my pc ended up going in to safe moad. I called a sighted person to come over from the computer store to tell me what is on the screen. they said that it was showing a blue screen and that there were error messages on the screen about a corrupted file. He did a scan disk and then loaded windows from the windows cd. Things are working fine but my question is as some one who is blind could I fix this problem with out sighted assistance if it happens again? and how would you prevent this problem from happening again? At the time I had no windows music or jaws or speech output of any kind. Many Thanks for your insights on this and take care. from Mich Verrier from New Liskeard Ontario Canada. Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/BlindComputing.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/BlindComputing.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/BlindComputing.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/BlindComputing.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL
