Re: [BlindHandyMan] what's up with wood?

[Bob Kennedy]

Sounds like a slip in quality control.  But like Dale said you can hid a lot of 
mistakes.  Don't know if a 2 by 12 is the best idea.  You can get a lot of warp 
in something that wide.  I'd opt for a couple 2 by 6s with a small gap between. 
 Forgot to ask how wide are the stairs.  When you get beyond 36 inches it's 
time to consider a third stringer.  Of course since you have a template to work 
with now it shouldn't be a problem.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Larry Stansifer 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 6:57 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] what's up with wood?


  Hi guys,

  This afternoon I got a call from a friend who is rebuilding his porch
  stairs.
  He has 6 steps going up to a deck height of just over 48". As I patiently
  explained to him he is absolutely talking to the wrong guy but armed with a
  talking tape and a leftover 6pack of Christmas ail I attempted to lend a
  hand.
  I found out that he had the stringers commercially cut and frankly they
  looked good. I put a tape on them and found out that the portion that the
  stair tread was attached to measured anywhere from 10&1/8" to 10&3/4". How
  can we even up those steps without it looking like */%^? The sides of the
  treads which are 4' in length are warped in different directions with weird
  little chips and dents along the edges. He told me the material is redwood
  and that it is supposed to be the best. The question is does he go with 2x12
  and custom fit them, or some other kind of termite magic? 
  I drank two of the Christmas ails and told him to call me when he wanted
  metal stairs.

  TNX

  Larry

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] what's up with wood?

[Dale Leavens]

Hi Larry,

Are the treads full depth? That is, 10 or 11 or 12 inches or something or are 
they narrower boards intended to be installed with a space or gap between them?

Are there risers?


You can cheat a little by backing the rear edge of the tread under a riser a 
little more or less and if the tread boards are gapped again you can add a 
little spacing here and there and remove a little the eye won't see it.

Often spaces are left between tread boards to encourage water to get away more 
rapidly and it helps to keep the steps from becoming too slippery. Of course if 
there aren't intended gaps one could rip the treads down to narrower boards 
then instal them as individual boards.

Hope there are some ideas useful to you in there..

Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Skype DaleLeavens
Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Larry Stansifer 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 6:57 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] what's up with wood?


  Hi guys,

  This afternoon I got a call from a friend who is rebuilding his porch
  stairs.
  He has 6 steps going up to a deck height of just over 48". As I patiently
  explained to him he is absolutely talking to the wrong guy but armed with a
  talking tape and a leftover 6pack of Christmas ail I attempted to lend a
  hand.
  I found out that he had the stringers commercially cut and frankly they
  looked good. I put a tape on them and found out that the portion that the
  stair tread was attached to measured anywhere from 10&1/8" to 10&3/4". How
  can we even up those steps without it looking like */%^? The sides of the
  treads which are 4' in length are warped in different directions with weird
  little chips and dents along the edges. He told me the material is redwood
  and that it is supposed to be the best. The question is does he go with 2x12
  and custom fit them, or some other kind of termite magic? 
  I drank two of the Christmas ails and told him to call me when he wanted
  metal stairs.

  TNX

  Larry

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Corvette update

[Bob Kennedy]

I have a picture somewhere of me pitting next to Don Prudeholm.  It was great!  
We were working on my car and they fired up his funny car to do some last 
minute tuning.  It ran for about 15 seconds with the occasional blast to clean 
the plugs.  We were all standing there with tears running freely because of the 
exhaust and when they shut it down all I could think was how happy I was to be 
a part of all that...  

If you have never taken an engine apart and made it better going back together, 
you'll never appreciate the feelings.  But when you've done some of the 
machining, put extra horses in the corral and felt that thunder that pounds 
your ears and chest then it becomes one of those "you had to be there" things...


  - Original Message - 
  From: Michael Baldwin 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 7:36 PM
  Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Corvette update


  Sounds cool, What kind of HP and torque numbers are you hoping for?
  Maybe you can do a recording of the Vette starting and revving.
  i was about 25 feet or so from a top fuel when they fired it up and revved
  it a few times. the feeling is hard to explain. My ears rang for a while.
  Michael

  _ 

  From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On Behalf Of Larry Stansifer
  Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 18:19
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Corvette update

  Well guys... She is finally cocked, locked and ready to rock.

  As is said in a previous post I had a vibration and had to pull the motor
  back out. The culprit turned out to be a bad pressure plate, Hayes
  over-nighted me another new one using the dynamic balance specs I sent them
  and they finally got it right.
  The motor is absolutely incredible. I knew when it fired for the first time
  it would be a winner. It is one of those motors that you don't hear as much
  as feel. It is almost like it creates so much exhaust over pressure that it
  disrupts your heart rhythm. I have experienced this feeling with top fuel
  motors but never with a gasser.
  I can't wait until this weekend to dyno run the car and find out how mean it
  really is. Carol has been practicing with the staging and hole-shot software
  on her computer and we will take it out to the local airport drag-strip and
  put a watch on it once it comes off of the dyno and stays together.
  Gentlemen, this thing is absolutely "bad to the bone."
  I will post Dyno results once I have them and they are verified.

  Larry

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Corvette update

[Bob Kennedy]

You have a good clutch, I've used them before.  But having to pull the engine 
is no fun.  I've always had a few words the neighbors laugh at when I worked on 
a Vette.  Like the time I put one up on the lift and the whole windshield 
popped out and slid down the hood.  Try explaining that one...  

Does the strip have any kind of electronic timing?  Let me know the figures 
when you get them back.

 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Larry Stansifer 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 7:18 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Corvette update


  Well guys... She is finally cocked, locked and ready to rock.

  As is said in a previous post I had a vibration and had to pull the motor
  back out. The culprit turned out to be a bad pressure plate, Hayes
  over-nighted me another new one using the dynamic balance specs I sent them
  and they finally got it right.
  The motor is absolutely incredible. I knew when it fired for the first time
  it would be a winner. It is one of those motors that you don't hear as much
  as feel. It is almost like it creates so much exhaust over pressure that it
  disrupts your heart rhythm. I have experienced this feeling with top fuel
  motors but never with a gasser.
  I can't wait until this weekend to dyno run the car and find out how mean it
  really is. Carol has been practicing with the staging and hole-shot software
  on her computer and we will take it out to the local airport drag-strip and
  put a watch on it once it comes off of the dyno and stays together.
  Gentlemen, this thing is absolutely "bad to the bone."
  I will post Dyno results once I have them and they are verified.

  Larry

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Chop saws was: miter boxes

[Bob Kennedy]

Take a trip to Lowes.  They have several on hand and you can get your hands all 
over them.
  - Original Message - 
  From: William Stephan 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 4:49 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Chop saws was: miter boxes


  Bob, probably a miter saw is what I need, I don't do a lot of fancy stuff, 
though I'd like to be able to cut at a 45 degree angle. Thanks to everyone who 
explained this, I had no idea there were as many options available as there 
seem to be.

  Bill Stephan
  Kansas City, MO
  (816)803-2469
  William Stephan

  -Original Message-
  From: "Bob Kennedy"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Sent: 1/15/08 8:03:39 PM
  To: "blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com"
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Chop saws was: miter boxes

  One tip before you go shopping. Figure out what you will do with one first. 
If it mostly straight cuts, or even if you want to build picture frames, a 
straight forward miter saw will do you fine. If you want to get fancy with 
crown molding or get into real fancy picture frame making then a compound will 
do you better. Just know in your mind what you will want to do because there 
are all types and prices to match. But asking a salesman what you need isn't 
going to be a good idea.
  - Original Message - 
  From: William Stephan 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 2:05 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Chop saws was: miter boxes

  Thanks Bob, I gotta go look at these before I buy I think.

  Bill Stephan
  Kansas City, MO
  (816)803-2469
  William Stephan

  -Original Message-
  From: "Bob Kennedy"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Sent: 1/14/08 9:15:46 PM
  To: "blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com"
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Chop saws was: miter boxes

  A compound miter means you can turn the blade to an angle just like you can 
do with a chop saw. A compound miter means you can turn the blade to an angle 
plus you can tilt the blade to the side at the same time. A chop saw doesn't do 
that as far as I know. The compound miter saw is better suited for picture 
framing and very exact crosscuts. The chop saw, if changed to a wood cutting 
blade will do very nice crosscuts and miter cuts. But if you want to get real 
fancy as in shadow boxes like many picture framers do, then you will have to 
opt for the compound miter. 

  It really depends on what you would be using it for. If you research this 
just a bit further you'll also see sliding compound miter saws. If you haven't 
seen one of these before it is much like the radial arm saw except that your 
blade raises up and you have to pull down on the motor to contact the wood. 

  A radial arm saw was once thought so dangerous because you could pull the 
blade across your hand. I tend to think it would be just as easy with a sliding 
miter to do the same amount of damage to a hand. 

  There are a lot of choices to check out before buying a saw. And you can go 
from 7 and a quarter up to 12 inches with the most popular models. You can go 
up to a 16 inch or more if you want to hand over a bunch of money.

  - Original Message - 
  From: William Stephan 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 9:45 PM
  Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Chop saws was: miter boxes

  Yeah Dale, I've thought about it, but it would mean building patricians
  since the basement is just one big open space.

  Also, for info sake, I looked at Harbor Freight today, and it looks to me
  like what they call a chop saw and what they call a compound miter saw are
  two very different animals. I had thought they were the same. Can someone
  clue me in on what I'm missing?

  Thanks.

  -Original Message-
  From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On Behalf Of Dale Leavens
  Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 9:41 PM
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Chop saws was: miter boxes

  Just a thought but you might be willing to isolate the laundry by lining the
  partitions with poly. You can also hang a good dust filter. They are pretty
  expensive though but it is remarkable how much dust they can take out of the
  air.

  Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  net
  Skype DaleLeavens
  Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.

  - Original Message - 
  From: William Stephan 
  To: blindhandyman@  yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 9:02 PM
  Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Chop saws was: miter boxes

  Thanks Bob and Dale. Yeah, it's a real dilemma for me. My wife has her
  laundry plant in the basement, and the basement's really the only place it's
  convenient for me to do work. We have an old garage, but there's no
  electrical service, and it's just not a pleasant place to work. Maybe if I
  get a chop saw, which I think would actually be

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Snakes, Alive

[Jewel Blanch]

With all their indigenous fauna that are out to gecha:  I have often wondered 
how it is that there is a blind person left alive in Australia, but I am, 
reliably assured that the snake will make itself scarce if given the chance 
because they are more frightened of us than we are of them!  
Now: come on!  Who's leg do they think they are pulling?
To warn the snakes of their coming!Maybe, all blind Ausies wear hobnailed boots 
and tread heavily upon their native soil while loudly singing:  "The Pub With 
No Beer" and Waltzing Milly--Hilda"  or whatever the sheila's name was!

   Jewel


 
- 
  From: Dale Leavens 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 12:16 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Snakes, Alive


  Ray,

  Seems to me I have seen or read that brown snakes are just about as poisonous 
as they get. Do they rattle? Why wouldn't it strike your dog? Aren't the blind 
highly disadvantaged where such threats lurk?

  Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Skype DaleLeavens
  Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Boyce, Ray 
  To: blindhandyman@YahooGroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 3:51 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Snakes, Alive

  Hi All

  Well we had to Kill our first snake of the Summer yesterday , a brown
  snake this time.
  It brought to my attention that I need a sharpened long handled shovel
  so a separation of it's head can occur.
  I just walked into the office door at home and the next thing the dog
  had it bailed up against the door I just walked through.
  Summer in Australia is great fun, anyone want to visit.

  Regards
  Ray

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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Corvette update

[Michael Baldwin]

Sounds cool,  What kind of HP and torque numbers are you hoping for?
Maybe you can do a recording of the Vette starting and revving.
 i was about 25 feet or so from a top fuel when they fired it up and revved
it a few times.  the feeling is hard to explain.  My ears rang for a while.
Michael
 
  _  

From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Larry Stansifer
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 18:19
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Corvette update



Well guys... She is finally cocked, locked and ready to rock.

As is said in a previous post I had a vibration and had to pull the motor
back out. The culprit turned out to be a bad pressure plate, Hayes
over-nighted me another new one using the dynamic balance specs I sent them
and they finally got it right.
The motor is absolutely incredible. I knew when it fired for the first time
it would be a winner. It is one of those motors that you don't hear as much
as feel. It is almost like it creates so much exhaust over pressure that it
disrupts your heart rhythm. I have experienced this feeling with top fuel
motors but never with a gasser.
I can't wait until this weekend to dyno run the car and find out how mean it
really is. Carol has been practicing with the staging and hole-shot software
on her computer and we will take it out to the local airport drag-strip and
put a watch on it once it comes off of the dyno and stays together.
Gentlemen, this thing is absolutely "bad to the bone."
I will post Dyno results once I have them and they are verified.

Larry

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[BlindHandyMan] Corvette update

[Larry Stansifer]

Well guys... She is finally cocked, locked and ready to rock.
 
As is said in a previous post I had a vibration and had to pull the motor
back out. The culprit turned out to be a bad pressure plate, Hayes
over-nighted me another new one using the dynamic balance specs I sent them
and they finally got it right.
The motor is absolutely incredible. I knew when it fired for the first time
it would be a winner. It is one of those motors that you don't hear as much
as feel. It is almost like it creates so much exhaust over pressure that it
disrupts your heart rhythm. I have experienced this feeling with top fuel
motors but never with a gasser.
I can't wait until this weekend to dyno run the car and find out how mean it
really is. Carol has been practicing with the staging and hole-shot software
on her computer and we will take it out to the local airport drag-strip and
put a watch on it once it comes off of the dyno and stays together.
Gentlemen, this thing is absolutely "bad to the bone."
I will post Dyno results once I have them and they are verified.
 
Larry


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Re: [BlindHandyMan] FW: [JAWS-Users] [JAWS] New Google accessible search for blind/visually impaired

[Trouble]

The sign up is on all there pages unless your signed in.

At 05:02 PM 1/16/2008, you wrote:

>the google.com/ie
>is still fine but I note now the first link is "sign in"
>all you gotta do is go down one to the text entry box
>but it's obvious they are trying to get you to sign up so they
>can collect more data.
>
>Tom
>
>

Tim
trouble
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[BlindHandyMan] what's up with wood?

[Larry Stansifer]

Hi guys,
 
This afternoon I got a call from a friend who is rebuilding his porch
stairs.
He has 6 steps going up to a deck height of just over 48". As I patiently
explained to him he is absolutely talking to the wrong guy but armed with a
talking tape and a leftover 6pack of Christmas ail I attempted to lend a
hand.
I found out that he had the stringers commercially cut and frankly they
looked good. I put a tape on them and found out that the portion that the
stair tread was attached to measured anywhere from 10&1/8" to 10&3/4". How
can we even up those steps without it looking like */%^? The sides of the
treads which are 4' in length are warped in different directions with weird
little chips and dents along the edges. He told me the material is redwood
and that it is supposed to be the best. The question is does he go with 2x12
and custom fit them, or some other kind of termite magic? 
I drank two of the Christmas ails and told him to call me when he wanted
metal stairs.
 
TNX
 
Larry


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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Snakes, Alive

[Boyce, Ray]

Hi Dale
 
Yes they are one mean snake but my Son seen what was happening just in
time and he told the Dog No, and it backed off.
It crawled back into the garden and we had to get a garden rake to get
it out where we could bring the shovel down on it's head.
Luckily it was only a small one but the King Brown one's will attack you
and are really  best left alone.
The cattle dog we had before this one used to bite red bellied black
snakes in half and do so twice without being bitten.
The dog we have now is a Jack Russel and already this year has killed 4
Blue Tongue Lizards.
We do not like it doing so but when it finds them it just rips them up.
What was frightening is I just walked through the door and the snake
must have been there in the garden at the time.
Treading carefully .
 
Regards
Ray



From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dale Leavens
Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2008 10:16
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Snakes, Alive



Ray,

Seems to me I have seen or read that brown snakes are just about as
poisonous as they get. Do they rattle? Why wouldn't it strike your dog?
Aren't the blind highly disadvantaged where such threats lurk?

Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
Skype DaleLeavens
Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.

- Original Message - 
From: Boyce, Ray 
To: blindhandyman@YahooGroups.com
  
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 3:51 PM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Snakes, Alive

Hi All

Well we had to Kill our first snake of the Summer yesterday , a brown
snake this time.
It brought to my attention that I need a sharpened long handled shovel
so a separation of it's head can occur.
I just walked into the office door at home and the next thing the dog
had it bailed up against the door I just walked through.
Summer in Australia is great fun, anyone want to visit.

Regards
Ray

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Snakes, Alive

[Dale Leavens]

Ray,

Seems to me I have seen or read that brown snakes are just about as poisonous 
as they get. Do they rattle? Why wouldn't it strike your dog? Aren't the blind 
highly disadvantaged where such threats lurk?

Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Skype DaleLeavens
Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Boyce, Ray 
  To: blindhandyman@YahooGroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 3:51 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Snakes, Alive


  Hi All

  Well we had to Kill our first snake of the Summer yesterday , a brown
  snake this time.
  It brought to my attention that I need a sharpened long handled shovel
  so a separation of it's head can occur.
  I just walked into the office door at home and the next thing the dog
  had it bailed up against the door I just walked through.
  Summer in Australia is great fun, anyone want to visit.

  Regards
  Ray

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Where is

[Don]

Were still around.  The best way too get the  most up to date shows,  is too 
download them from the links I send  to the list,  on Thursday evenings.

  - Original Message - 
  From: rodger.hood 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 3:07 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Where is


  What happened to the show after Jan 5? My pod catcher can't find 
  anything?



   

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] FW: [JAWS-Users] [JAWS] New Google accessible search for blind/visually impaired

[Tom Fowle]

the google.com/ie
is still fine but I note now the first link is "sign in"
all you gotta do is go down one to the text entry box
but it's obvious they are trying to get you to sign up so they
can collect more data.

Tom

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Chop saws was: miter boxes

[William Stephan]

Dan, got it, I'm going to try and find some place where all three, chop, 
compound miter and sliding compound miter saws are available.  Now I understand 
why blade size is so important.


 Bill Stephan
Kansas City, MO
(816)803-2469
William Stephan


-Original Message-
From: "Dan Rossi"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 1/15/08 9:20:08 PM
To: "blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com"
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Chop saws was: miter boxes

Bill,

Just imagine a circ saw on a hinge.  It moves up and down.  So, you could 
only cut a 12 inch board if you had a really large saw, on your basic 
mitre saw.  If you had a sliding mitre, it might cut a six or eight inch 
board, but you could then drag it forward another couple of inches after 
you brought the saw all the way down.

You cannot really rip on these things since you cant feed wood through it. 
You just lay the board down and cross cut it.

-- 
Blue skies.
Dan Rossi
Carnegie Mellon University.
E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tel:(412) 268-9081

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Chop saws was: miter boxes

[William Stephan]

Bob, probably a miter saw is what I need, I don't do a lot of fancy stuff, 
though I'd like to be able to cut at a 45 degree angle.  Thanks to everyone who 
explained this, I had no idea there were as many options available as there 
seem to be.


 Bill Stephan
Kansas City, MO
(816)803-2469
William Stephan


-Original Message-
From: "Bob Kennedy"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 1/15/08 8:03:39 PM
To: "blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com"
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Chop saws was: miter boxes

One tip  before you go shopping.  Figure out what you will do with one first.  
If it mostly straight cuts, or even if you want to build picture frames, a 
straight forward miter saw will do you fine.  If you want to get fancy with 
crown molding or get into real fancy picture frame making then a compound will 
do you better.  Just know in your mind what you will want to do because there 
are all types and prices to match.  But asking a salesman what you need isn't 
going to be a good idea.
  - Original Message - 
  From: William Stephan 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 2:05 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Chop saws was: miter boxes


  Thanks Bob, I gotta go look at these before I buy I think.

  Bill Stephan
  Kansas City, MO
  (816)803-2469
  William Stephan

  -Original Message-
  From: "Bob Kennedy"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Sent: 1/14/08 9:15:46 PM
  To: "blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com"
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Chop saws was: miter boxes

  A compound miter means you can turn the blade to an angle just like you can 
do with a chop saw. A compound miter means you can turn the blade to an angle 
plus you can tilt the blade to the side at the same time. A chop saw doesn't do 
that as far as I know. The compound miter saw is better suited for picture 
framing and very exact crosscuts. The chop saw, if changed to a wood cutting 
blade will do very nice crosscuts and miter cuts. But if you want to get real 
fancy as in shadow boxes like many picture framers do, then you will have to 
opt for the compound miter. 

  It really depends on what you would be using it for. If you research this 
just a bit further you'll also see sliding compound miter saws. If you haven't 
seen one of these before it is much like the radial arm saw except that your 
blade raises up and you have to pull down on the motor to contact the wood. 

  A radial arm saw was once thought so dangerous because you could pull the 
blade across your hand. I tend to think it would be just as easy with a sliding 
miter to do the same amount of damage to a hand. 

  There are a lot of choices to check out before buying a saw. And you can go 
from 7 and a quarter up to 12 inches with the most popular models. You can go 
up to a 16 inch or more if you want to hand over a bunch of money.

  - Original Message - 
  From: William Stephan 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 9:45 PM
  Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Chop saws was: miter boxes

  Yeah Dale, I've thought about it, but it would mean building patricians
  since the basement is just one big open space.

  Also, for info sake, I looked at Harbor Freight today, and it looks to me
  like what they call a chop saw and what they call a compound miter saw are
  two very different animals. I had thought they were the same. Can someone
  clue me in on what I'm missing?

  Thanks.

  -Original Message-
  From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On Behalf Of Dale Leavens
  Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 9:41 PM
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Chop saws was: miter boxes

  Just a thought but you might be willing to isolate the laundry by lining the
  partitions with poly. You can also hang a good dust filter. They are pretty
  expensive though but it is remarkable how much dust they can take out of the
  air.

  Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  net
  Skype DaleLeavens
  Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.

  - Original Message - 
  From: William Stephan 
  To: blindhandyman@  yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 9:02 PM
  Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Chop saws was: miter boxes

  Thanks Bob and Dale. Yeah, it's a real dilemma for me. My wife has her
  laundry plant in the basement, and the basement's really the only place it's
  convenient for me to do work. We have an old garage, but there's no
  electrical service, and it's just not a pleasant place to work. Maybe if I
  get a chop saw, which I think would actually be adequate, it'll just have to
  live out in the garage on extension cords during the warmer months, though
  having a good positive dust collection system without having to run a noisey
  vac would sure be nice in the basement.

  -Original Message-
  From: blindhandyman@ 

RE: [BlindHandyMan] New toy

[Michael Baldwin]

Nope, not me.
Michael
 

  _  

From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Donnie Parrett
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 15:32
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] New toy



Hey Michael,

Is that you giving the demonstration?

Contact me at:
Donnie Parrett
1956 Asa Flat Road
Annville, KY 40402
Home # 606-364-3321
Cell # 606-438-2557
Church # 606-364-PRAY
Skype Name: Donnie1261
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  org

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@ 
yahoogroups.com
[mailto:blindhandyman@ 
yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Michael Baldwin
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 3:32 PM
To: blindhandyman@  yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] New toy

There is a MP3 of it here.
http://www.jaws-

users.com/JAWS/handyman/MP3Files/Multi-meter.mp3
That one talks faster then mine, I haven't figured out if I can increase the
rate of speech. There is also a amp function, but I do not recall that
being discussed in the MP3.
Michael

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@ 
yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandyman@
 yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Peawee
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:36
To: blindhandyman@  yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] New toy

hi, after you use it a little while, maybe you would do a podcast on it. I
would be very interested in hearing it.

Peawee
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  d.com

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@ 
yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandyman@
 yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Michael Baldwin
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 12:06 PM
To: blindhandyman@  yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] New toy

Hi,
In the mail today, i got my talking multimeter. Now what to do with the darn
thing. i mainly got it to test the heating mats I am putting under my tile.
if I don't test them at several points during the install, the warranty is
void.
How would I test an outlet to make sure I got the hot on the right screw?
i am sure I will think of many many uses for it.
Michael

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RE: [BlindHandyMan] New toy

[Donnie Parrett]

Hey Michael,

Is that you giving the demonstration?

Contact me at:
Donnie Parrett
1956 Asa Flat Road
Annville, KY  40402
Home #  606-364-3321
Cell #  606-438-2557
Church #  606-364-PRAY
Skype Name:  Donnie1261
Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Michael Baldwin
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 3:32 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] New toy


There is a MP3 of it here.
http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/MP3Files/Multi-meter.mp3
That one talks faster then mine, I haven't figured out if I can increase the
rate of speech.  There is also a amp function, but I do not recall that
being discussed in the MP3.
Michael


-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Peawee
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:36
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] New toy

hi, after you use it a little while, maybe you would do a podcast on it. I
would be very interested in hearing it.

Peawee
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Michael Baldwin
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 12:06 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] New toy

Hi,
In the mail today, i got my talking multimeter. Now what to do with the darn
thing. i mainly got it to test the heating mats I am putting under my tile.
if I don't test them at several points during the install, the warranty is
void.
How would I test an outlet to make sure I got the hot on the right screw?
i am sure I will think of many many uses for it.
Michael


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[BlindHandyMan] Where is

[rodger.hood]

What happened to the show after Jan 5?  My pod catcher can't find 
anything?

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Snakes, Alive

[Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press]

Well, Summer sounds great since, now don't laugh, it was 57 degrees 
inside my house this morning. We have no heat although we do have a 
wood burning stove. Since I was so cold, I decided just to wait for 
the sun to come out. However, we have no snakes, a fact that makes me 
most grateful.
Betsy

At 10:51 AM 1/16/2008, you wrote:
>Hi All
>
>Well we had to Kill our first snake of the Summer yesterday , a brown
>snake this time.
>It brought to my attention that I need a sharpened long handled shovel
>so a separation of it's head can occur.
>I just walked into the office door at home and the next thing the dog
>had it bailed up against the door I just walked through.
>Summer in Australia is great fun, anyone want to visit.
>
>Regards
>Ray
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] FW: [JAWS-Users] [JAWS] New Google accessible search for blind/visually impaired

[Dan Rossi]

There is also www.google.com/ie which doesn't search for more accessible 
sites, but the interface is completely stripped down and very easy to 
navigate.

-- 
Blue skies.
Dan Rossi
Carnegie Mellon University.
E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tel:(412) 268-9081

[BlindHandyMan] Snakes, Alive

[Boyce, Ray]

Hi All

Well we had to Kill our first snake of the Summer yesterday , a brown
snake this time.
It brought to my attention that I need a sharpened long handled shovel
so a separation of it's head can occur.
I just walked into the office door at home and the next thing the dog
had it bailed up against the door I just walked through.
Summer in Australia is great fun, anyone want to visit.

Regards
Ray

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] FW: [JAWS-Users] [JAWS] New Google accessible search for blind/visually impaired

[David Ferrin]

Good deal Larry, like I said it should benefit the handy folks on here who 
are always looking for something or another.
David Ferrin
 www.jaws-users.com
- Original Message - 
From: Larry Stansifer
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 2:10 PM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] FW: [JAWS-Users] [JAWS] New Google accessible 
search for blind/visually impaired


Here is an alternative to wading through all of those graphics laden web
sites before we can find that tool or part we really want. I have played
with it just a bit and found it to be pretty clean and quick.

First I will past the link then under the link I will post the information.

Read the information before using the link.

http://labs.google.com/accessible/

Accessible Search FAQ

What is Google Accessible Search?
Accessible Search is an early Google Labs product designed to identify and
prioritize search results that are more easily usable by blind and visually
impaired users. Regular Google search helps you find a set of documents that
is most relevant to your tasks. Accessible Search goes one step further by
helping you find the most accessible pages in that result set.

How does Accessible Search work?
In its current version, Google Accessible Search looks at a number of
signals by examining the HTML markup found on a web page. It tends to favor
pages that degrade gracefully --- pages with few visual distractions and
pages that are likely to render well with images turned off. Google
Accessible Search is built on Google Co-op's technology, which improves
search results based on specialized interests.

Why is Google offering this?
Accessible Search is a natural and important extension of Google's overall
mission to better organize the world's information and make it universally
accessible. Google Accessible Search is designed to help the visually
impaired find the most relevant, useful and comprehensive information, as
quickly as possible.

In the past, visually impaired Google users have often waded through a lot
of inaccessible websites and pages to find the required information. Our
goal is to provide a more useful and accessible web search experience for
the blind and visually impaired.

How do you decide which sites are "accessible" and which are not? Broadly,
Google defines accessible websites and pages as content that the blind and
visually impaired can use and consume using standard online technology, and
we've worked with a number of organizations to determine which websites and
pages meet those criteria. Our methods for identifying accessible pages and
content are always evolving; Currently we take into account several factors,
including a given page's simplicity, how much visual imagery it carries and
whether or not its primary purpose is immediately viable with keyboard
navigation.

How can sites make their content more accessible to the blind? Some of the
basic recommendations on how to make a website more usable and accessible
include keeping Web pages easy to read, avoiding visual clutter
-- especially extraneous content -- and ensuring that the primary purpose of
the Web page is immediately accessible with full keyboard navigation. There
are many organizations and online resources that offer Website owners and
authors guidance on how to make websites and pages more accessible for the
blind and visually impaired. The W3C publishes numerous guidelines including
Web Content Access Guidelines that are helpful for Website owners and
authors. Broad adherence to these guidelines is one way of ensuring that
sites are universally accessible.

Does Accessible Search Filter Out Inaccessible Content?
No. First of all accessible is a very subjective measure --- what's more,
queries can vary widely with respect to how accessible the results are. As
an example, if you are looking for information such as weather forecasts or
reference material such as the definition of an unfamiliar term, the result
set often consists of both accessible and inaccessible content. In these
cases, Google Accessible Search promotes those results that have been
measured to be more accessible. On the other hand, if the particular query
is about video games, the chances are fairly high that a majority of the
best results for that query will be visually busy pages. So in the final
analysis, we never filter content in Google Accessible Search; we pick the
best results exactly as we do with regular Google search, and then re-order
the top results by their level of accessibility.

The Result Set Looks Identical To Regular Search?
The operational word in the above question is looks. Google Accessible
Search does not in any way change the look and feel of Google search
results. What it does (see earlier question) is to re-order results based on
how accessible they are.

Navigating Search Results
After Google Accessible Search was launched, many of our users sent us
feedback about the results page (both Google Accessible and regular search)
bei

RE: [BlindHandyMan] New toy

[Michael Baldwin]

There is a MP3 of it here.
http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/MP3Files/Multi-meter.mp3
That one talks faster then mine, I haven't figured out if I can increase the
rate of speech.  There is also a amp function, but I do not recall that
being discussed in the MP3.
Michael
 

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Peawee
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:36
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] New toy

hi, after you use it a little while, maybe you would do a podcast on it. I
would be very interested in hearing it.

Peawee
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Michael Baldwin
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 12:06 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] New toy

Hi,
In the mail today, i got my talking multimeter. Now what to do with the darn
thing. i mainly got it to test the heating mats I am putting under my tile.
if I don't test them at several points during the install, the warranty is
void.
How would I test an outlet to make sure I got the hot on the right screw?
i am sure I will think of many many uses for it.
Michael


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[BlindHandyMan] Standard Specification for Seamless Copper Tube for Air Conditioning and Refrigeration Field Service - ACR

[Boyce, Ray]

Seamless copper tube according ASTM 280 is intended for use in the connection, 
repairs, or alternations of air conditioning or refrigeration units in the
field.

Table with 6 columns and 20 rows
Nominal Size
(inches)
Annealed (A) or Drawn Temper (D)
Outside Diameter
(inches)
Inside Diameter
(inches)
Wall Thickness
(inches)
Cross Sectional Area of Bore
(square inches)
1/8
A
0.125
0.065
0.030
0.0033
3/16
A
0.187
0.128
0.030
0.0129
1/4
A
0.250
0.190
0.030
0.0284
5/16
A
0.312
0.248
0.032
0.0483
3/8
A
0.375
0.311
0.032
0.076
 
D
0.375
0.315
0.030
0.078
1/2
A
0.500
0.436
0.032
0.149
 
D
0.500
0.430
0.035
0.145
5/8
A
0.625
0.555
0.035
0.242
 
D
0.625
0.545
0.040
0.233
3/4
A
0.750
0.680
0.035
0.363
 
A
0.750
0.666
0.042
0.348
 
D
0.750
0.666
0.042
0.348
7/8
A
0.875
0.785
0.045
0.484
 
D
0.875
0.785
0.045
0.484
1 1/8
A
1.125
1.025
0.050
0.825
 
D
1.125
1.025
0.050
0.825
1 3/8
A
1.375
1.265
0.055
1.26
 
D
1.375
1.265
0.055
1.26
List of 2 items
* drawn temper - also called "hard" or "rigid"
* annealed temper - also called "soft" or "flexible"

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] FW: [JAWS-Users] [JAWS] New Google accessible search for blind/visually impaired

[Rodger Hood]

It works for me much better and faster to boot.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Larry Stansifer 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:10 AM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] FW: [JAWS-Users] [JAWS] New Google accessible search 
for blind/visually impaired


  Here is an alternative to wading through all of those graphics laden web
  sites before we can find that tool or part we really want. I have played
  with it just a bit and found it to be pretty clean and quick.

  First I will past the link then under the link I will post the information.

  Read the information before using the link.

  http://labs.google.com/accessible/

  Accessible Search FAQ

  What is Google Accessible Search?
  Accessible Search is an early Google Labs product designed to identify and
  prioritize search results that are more easily usable by blind and visually
  impaired users. Regular Google search helps you find a set of documents that
  is most relevant to your tasks. Accessible Search goes one step further by
  helping you find the most accessible pages in that result set.

  How does Accessible Search work?
  In its current version, Google Accessible Search looks at a number of
  signals by examining the HTML markup found on a web page. It tends to favor
  pages that degrade gracefully --- pages with few visual distractions and
  pages that are likely to render well with images turned off. Google
  Accessible Search is built on Google Co-op's technology, which improves
  search results based on specialized interests.

  Why is Google offering this?
  Accessible Search is a natural and important extension of Google's overall
  mission to better organize the world's information and make it universally
  accessible. Google Accessible Search is designed to help the visually
  impaired find the most relevant, useful and comprehensive information, as
  quickly as possible.

  In the past, visually impaired Google users have often waded through a lot
  of inaccessible websites and pages to find the required information. Our
  goal is to provide a more useful and accessible web search experience for
  the blind and visually impaired.

  How do you decide which sites are "accessible" and which are not? Broadly,
  Google defines accessible websites and pages as content that the blind and
  visually impaired can use and consume using standard online technology, and
  we've worked with a number of organizations to determine which websites and
  pages meet those criteria. Our methods for identifying accessible pages and
  content are always evolving; Currently we take into account several factors,
  including a given page's simplicity, how much visual imagery it carries and
  whether or not its primary purpose is immediately viable with keyboard
  navigation.

  How can sites make their content more accessible to the blind? Some of the
  basic recommendations on how to make a website more usable and accessible
  include keeping Web pages easy to read, avoiding visual clutter
  -- especially extraneous content -- and ensuring that the primary purpose of
  the Web page is immediately accessible with full keyboard navigation. There
  are many organizations and online resources that offer Website owners and
  authors guidance on how to make websites and pages more accessible for the
  blind and visually impaired. The W3C publishes numerous guidelines including
  Web Content Access Guidelines that are helpful for Website owners and
  authors. Broad adherence to these guidelines is one way of ensuring that
  sites are universally accessible.

  Does Accessible Search Filter Out Inaccessible Content?
  No. First of all accessible is a very subjective measure --- what's more,
  queries can vary widely with respect to how accessible the results are. As
  an example, if you are looking for information such as weather forecasts or
  reference material such as the definition of an unfamiliar term, the result
  set often consists of both accessible and inaccessible content. In these
  cases, Google Accessible Search promotes those results that have been
  measured to be more accessible. On the other hand, if the particular query
  is about video games, the chances are fairly high that a majority of the
  best results for that query will be visually busy pages. So in the final
  analysis, we never filter content in Google Accessible Search; we pick the
  best results exactly as we do with regular Google search, and then re-order
  the top results by their level of accessibility.

  The Result Set Looks Identical To Regular Search?
  The operational word in the above question is looks. Google Accessible
  Search does not in any way change the look and feel of Google search
  results. What it does (see earlier question) is to re-order results based on
  how accessible they are.

  Navigating Search Results
  After Google Accessible Search was launched, many of our users sent us
  feedback about the results pag

[BlindHandyMan] FW: [JAWS-Users] [JAWS] New Google accessible search for blind/visually impaired

[Larry Stansifer]

Here is an alternative to wading through all of those graphics laden web
sites before we can find that tool or part we really want. I have played
with it just a bit and found it to be pretty clean and quick.


First I will past the link then under the link I will post the information.

Read the information before using the link.

http://labs.google.com/accessible/

Accessible Search FAQ

What is Google Accessible Search?
Accessible Search is an early Google Labs product designed to identify and
prioritize search results that are more easily usable by blind and visually
impaired users. Regular Google search helps you find a set of documents that
is most relevant to your tasks. Accessible Search goes one step further by
helping you find the most accessible pages in that result set.

How does Accessible Search work?
In its current version, Google Accessible Search looks at a number of
signals by examining the HTML markup found on a web page. It tends to favor
pages that degrade gracefully --- pages with few visual distractions and
pages that are likely to render well with images turned off. Google
Accessible Search is built on Google Co-op's technology, which improves
search results based on specialized interests.

Why is Google offering this?
Accessible Search is a natural and important extension of Google's overall
mission to better organize the world's information and make it universally
accessible. Google Accessible Search is designed to help the visually
impaired find the most relevant, useful and comprehensive information, as
quickly as possible.

In the past, visually impaired Google users have often waded through a lot
of inaccessible websites and pages to find the required information. Our
goal is to provide a more useful and accessible web search experience for
the blind and visually impaired.

How do you decide which sites are "accessible" and which are not? Broadly,
Google defines accessible websites and pages as content that the blind and
visually impaired can use and consume using standard online technology, and
we've worked with a number of organizations to determine which websites and
pages meet those criteria. Our methods for identifying accessible pages and
content are always evolving; Currently we take into account several factors,
including a given page's simplicity, how much visual imagery it carries and
whether or not its primary purpose is immediately viable with keyboard
navigation.

How can sites make their content more accessible to the blind? Some of the
basic recommendations on how to make a website more usable and accessible
include keeping Web pages easy to read, avoiding visual clutter
-- especially extraneous content -- and ensuring that the primary purpose of
the Web page is immediately accessible with full keyboard navigation. There
are many organizations and online resources that offer Website owners and
authors guidance on how to make websites and pages more accessible for the
blind and visually impaired. The W3C publishes numerous guidelines including
Web Content Access Guidelines that are helpful for Website owners and
authors. Broad adherence to these guidelines is one way of ensuring that
sites are universally accessible.

Does Accessible Search Filter Out Inaccessible Content?
No. First of all accessible is a very subjective measure --- what's more,
queries can vary widely with respect to how accessible the results are. As
an example, if you are looking for information such as weather forecasts or
reference material such as the definition of an unfamiliar term, the result
set often consists of both accessible and inaccessible content. In these
cases, Google Accessible Search promotes those results that have been
measured to be more accessible. On the other hand, if the particular query
is about video games, the chances are fairly high that a majority of the
best results for that query will be visually busy pages. So in the final
analysis, we never filter content in Google Accessible Search; we pick the
best results exactly as we do with regular Google search, and then re-order
the top results by their level of accessibility.

The Result Set Looks Identical To Regular Search?
The operational word in the above question is looks. Google Accessible
Search does not in any way change the look and feel of Google search
results. What it does (see earlier question) is to re-order results based on
how accessible they are.

Navigating Search Results
After Google Accessible Search was launched, many of our users sent us
feedback about the results page (both Google Accessible and regular search)
being difficult to navigate with screenreaders. In response, we have updated
the results page in both cases to have section headers that can be used in
conjunction with screenreader hotkeys to quickly skim through the page.
Thus, once Google has responded to your search query, use your access
technology's "move by section" keys to move between the section that
displays sponsored ads and the

RE: [BlindHandyMan] New toy

[Peawee]

hi, after you use it a little while, maybe you would do a podcast on it. I
would be very interested in hearing it.

Peawee
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-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Michael Baldwin
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 12:06 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] New toy

Hi,
In the mail today, i got my talking multimeter. Now what to do with the darn
thing. i mainly got it to test the heating mats I am putting under my tile.
if I don't test them at several points during the install, the warranty is
void.
How would I test an outlet to make sure I got the hot on the right screw?
i am sure I will think of many many uses for it.
Michael


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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Solderless plumbing

[Bob Kennedy]

Unfortunately no, one  of our rental houses has backed up toilets...
  - Original Message - 
  From: Max Robinson 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 10:10 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Solderless plumbing


  Bob wrote.

  The only plumbing I'll be doing this week is with 3 inch PVC. Anyone that 
  knows about plumbing knows the only place that size is used...

  In a dust collector system in a wood shop, right?

  Regards.

  Max. K 4 O D S.

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  From: "Bob Kennedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 8:23 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Solderless plumbing

  > They claim it will work in a commercial setting. I ordered some last 
  > night so I'll let you know probably some time next week. The only 
  > plumbing I'll be doing this week is with 3 inch PVC. Anyone that knows 
  > about plumbing knows the only place that size is used...
  > - Original Message - 
  > From: RJ
  > To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 6:07 PM
  > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Solderless plumbing
  >
  >
  > Bob,
  >
  > Thanks for the link. Will take a look at the info and see if it can hold 
  > between 60 to 100 psi.
  > RJ
  > - Original Message - 
  > From: Bob Kennedy
  > To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  > Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 23:19
  > Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Solderless plumbing
  >
  > Here is a link in case anyone is interested in working with copper pipes 
  > without having to fire up the torch... You will probably have to copy and 
  > paste the link as it is huge but I copied and pasted it in my browser and 
  > it works.
  >
  > https://commerce.vertex.net/justforcopper/product_detail.asp?
  > sku=HSB001&catID=&sID=F236N391N41X8GNEL5F0XU4RHE1587G2
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