Re: [BlindHandyMan] surprising question
I agree and btw, CLiff if you can find that screwdriver I've temporarily lost, I'd appreciate it.grin On Nov 15, 2009, at 10:44 PM, Lee A. Stone wrote: and all of us here Brother Cliff are glad you were Exposed to the rest of the world . Makes a person feel good if you tried. Now I bet you have a good bit of wooden handled screw drivers in your lot and that is good too. I am out of here in a few mimnutes up u and away. Lee On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 09:51:45PM -0500, clifford wrote: Dear List members: I was in a chat room on a site for blind folks and their friends, and the subject turned to the events of the day. My first wife and I engaged in some spring cleaning in November, and we can not figure out whether we are behind several months, or ahead several months. In any event, I was commenting about my collection of screw-drivers, which has gotten out of control, and I am telling all of my friends and family that this Christmas need not involve screw-drivers. One of the participants on the site asked me, what would a blind person do with a screw-driver. I explained that I had disassembled a chair today and reassembled the good parts from two chairs to make one good one. This gentleman apparently has not been exposed to handyman activities at all. While I don't perform as many tasks as I did as a younger man, I am astounded at the lack of opportunity some blind folks have. Their parents, teachers, and friends have protected them too much, in my country boy's opinion. Yours Truly, Clifford Wilson [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Moustache rides, 50 cents. . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: blindhandyman-dig...@yahoogroups.com blindhandyman-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: blindhandyman-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] surprising question
Lets start a program where by we buy a blind person a screwdriver, put it in their hands and encourage them to use it. Oapra would do a show and stroke us. Perhaps buy us all a car? Matt - Original Message - From: Betsy Whitney To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 9:48 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] surprising question Clifford, Get them all to join the list. That would be quite a project for the list members here, grin... Lee, where are you going? Betsy At 05:44 PM 11/15/2009, you wrote: and all of us here Brother Cliff are glad you were Exposed to the rest of the world . Makes a person feel good if you tried. Now I bet you have a good bit of wooden handled screw drivers in your lot and that is good too. I am out of here in a few mimnutes up u and away. Lee On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 09:51:45PM -0500, clifford wrote: Dear List members: I was in a chat room on a site for blind folks and their friends, and the subject turned to the events of the day. My first wife and I engaged in some spring cleaning in November, and we can not figure out whether we are behind several months, or ahead several months. In any event, I was commenting about my collection of screw-drivers, which has gotten out of control, and I am telling all of my friends and family that this Christmas need not involve screw-drivers. One of the participants on the site asked me, what would a blind person do with a screw-driver. I explained that I had disassembled a chair today and reassembled the good parts from two chairs to make one good one. This gentleman apparently has not been exposed to handyman activities at all. While I don't perform as many tasks as I did as a younger man, I am astounded at the lack of opportunity some blind folks have. Their parents, teachers, and friends have protected them too much, in my country boy's opinion. Yours Truly, Clifford Wilson [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Moustache rides, 50 cents. . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Lets us all get in line in front of his sister? I want my 20! - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 10:20 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] surprising question Clifford, I can not agree more with your country boy opinion. There is a young man who just lost his parents. My daughter is a manager of a Good Will Industries shop where she helps mentally and physically challenged individuals. She wants me to talk tothis man and I do not know how to talk to him. His parents and older sister have totally protected him. He has no idea on how to fold money. I don't know how he was educated. When he was a child I was asked to talk to his parents. When they saw my talking watch the comment was we must get him one so he does not have to learn to tell time. My daughter asked him about his money and was informed that his sister gives him $20 everyday. My parents tried to protect me but I was too stubborn with an independent attitude. Lucky for me.By the way I too have way too many screwdrivers. - Original Message - From: clifford cliff...@tds.net To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 9:51 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] surprising question Dear List members: I was in a chat room on a site for blind folks and their friends, and the subject turned to the events of the day. My first wife and I engaged in some spring cleaning in November, and we can not figure out whether we are behind several months, or ahead several months. In any event, I was commenting about my collection of screw-drivers, which has gotten out of control, and I am telling all of my friends and family that this Christmas need not involve screw-drivers. One of the participants on the site asked me, what would a blind person do with a screw-driver. I explained that I had disassembled a chair today and reassembled the good parts from two chairs to make one good one. This gentleman apparently has not been exposed to handyman activities at all. While I don't perform as many tasks as I did as a younger man, I am astounded at the lack of opportunity some blind folks have. Their parents, teachers, and friends have protected them too much, in my country boy's opinion. Yours Truly, Clifford Wilson [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links __ NOD32 4610 (20091115) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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There is no specific way to fold money. No one showed me; I just made my own system. If you have too many screw drivers, drink them. earlier, Matt, wrote: Lets us all get in line in front of his sister? I want my 20! - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 10:20 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] surprising question Clifford, I can not agree more with your country boy opinion. There is a young man who just lost his parents. My daughter is a manager of a Good Will Industries shop where she helps mentally and physically challenged individuals. She wants me to talk tothis man and I do not know how to talk to him. His parents and older sister have totally protected him. He has no idea on how to fold money. I don't know how he was educated. When he was a child I was asked to talk to his parents. When they saw my talking watch the comment was we must get him one so he does not have to learn to tell time. My daughter asked him about his money and was informed that his sister gives him $20 everyday. My parents tried to protect me but I was too stubborn with an independent attitude. Lucky for me.By the way I too have way too many screwdrivers. - Original Message - From: clifford mailto:clifford%40tds.netcliff...@tds.net To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 9:51 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] surprising question Dear List members: I was in a chat room on a site for blind folks and their friends, and the subject turned to the events of the day. My first wife and I engaged in some spring cleaning in November, and we can not figure out whether we are behind several months, or ahead several months. In any event, I was commenting about my collection of screw-drivers, which has gotten out of control, and I am telling all of my friends and family that this Christmas need not involve screw-drivers. One of the participants on the site asked me, what would a blind person do with a screw-driver. I explained that I had disassembled a chair today and reassembled the good parts from two chairs to make one good one. This gentleman apparently has not been exposed to handyman activities at all. While I don't perform as many tasks as I did as a younger man, I am astounded at the lack of opportunity some blind folks have. Their parents, teachers, and friends have protected them too much, in my country boy's opinion. Yours Truly, Clifford Wilson [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Send any questions regarding list management to: mailto:blindhandyman-owner%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturdayhttp://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: mailto:blindhandyman-help%40yahoogroups.comYahooblindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links __ NOD32 4610 (20091115) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.comhttp://www.eset.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] John [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [BlindHandyMan] best talking thermostat
Al, Would you tell us which model you purchased and the price? I am, of course, assuming the have more than one model. Thanks, Tom From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Terrie Robbins Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 7:12 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] best talking thermostat Ron, I did not see a lot of response to your post so i thought I'd add my two cents. The 800 + choices you found as a result of your search must have considerable duplication as I don't think there are that many vendors our there. I have only used one model and that is the VIP talking thermostat. The website is: www.talkingthermostat.com I actually have two of them in my home and have never had any problem with either one The support from the company is fantastic should you need it. The directions that accompany the unit are very blind friendly and the unit can be installed without sighted assistance if needed. The unit is easy to program or simply use as a standard thermostat. Visit the website and write back with additional questions if needed. When you log onto the site, you will actually hear what the voice in the thermostat sounds like Al -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com ]On Behalf Of Ron Yearns Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 10:11 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [BlindHandyMan] best talking thermostat Well someone at our Blind amateur radio club asked about the best talking thermostat. I saw about eight hundred plus choices on google. What is the experiences of the group? Ron [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [BlindHandyMan] surprising question
I am a bit confused about your comment about doing something in November with your first wife. The month of November is just half over and you have a second wife in less than one month? Just curious. From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of clifford Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 9:52 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: [BlindHandyMan] surprising question Dear List members: I was in a chat room on a site for blind folks and their friends, and the subject turned to the events of the day. My first wife and I engaged in some spring cleaning in November, and we can not figure out whether we are behind several months, or ahead several months. In any event, I was commenting about my collection of screw-drivers, which has gotten out of control, and I am telling all of my friends and family that this Christmas need not involve screw-drivers. One of the participants on the site asked me, what would a blind person do with a screw-driver. I explained that I had disassembled a chair today and reassembled the good parts from two chairs to make one good one. This gentleman apparently has not been exposed to handyman activities at all. While I don't perform as many tasks as I did as a younger man, I am astounded at the lack of opportunity some blind folks have. Their parents, teachers, and friends have protected them too much, in my country boy's opinion. Yours Truly, Clifford Wilson [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [BlindHandyMan] surprising question
Huh? From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Lee A. Stone Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 2:10 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] surprising question Betsy I had to wait until we cleared the NASA radio channels. Myself and many handy men and women are off to three planets I can only tell you of one due to limitations ,. that one being Venus. I'll tell you more off list. but be advised one of the moderators of this list is our communmications specialist. no names mentionmed. Lee On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 05:48:43PM -1000, Betsy Whitney wrote: Clifford, Get them all to join the list. That would be quite a project for the list members here, grin... Lee, where are you going? Betsy At 05:44 PM 11/15/2009, you wrote: and all of us here Brother Cliff are glad you were Exposed to the rest of the world . Makes a person feel good if you tried. Now I bet you have a good bit of wooden handled screw drivers in your lot and that is good too. I am out of here in a few mimnutes up u and away. Lee On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 09:51:45PM -0500, clifford wrote: Dear List members: I was in a chat room on a site for blind folks and their friends, and the subject turned to the events of the day. My first wife and I engaged in some spring cleaning in November, and we can not figure out whether we are behind several months, or ahead several months. In any event, I was commenting about my collection of screw-drivers, which has gotten out of control, and I am telling all of my friends and family that this Christmas need not involve screw-drivers. One of the participants on the site asked me, what would a blind person do with a screw-driver. I explained that I had disassembled a chair today and reassembled the good parts from two chairs to make one good one. This gentleman apparently has not been exposed to handyman activities at all. While I don't perform as many tasks as I did as a younger man, I am astounded at the lack of opportunity some blind folks have. Their parents, teachers, and friends have protected them too much, in my country boy's opinion. Yours Truly, Clifford Wilson [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Moustache rides, 50 cents. . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Moustache rides, 50 cents. . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [BlindHandyMan] best talking thermostat
Tom, Bought my latest one on 1/19/09 for $139.95 directly from their website. If memory serves me correct, their are two different models, one for regular forced hot air furnace with a blower the other for heat pumps. The website is very good at telling you which model you will need depending on your heating/cooling needs. We have a gas furnace and central air and the unit controls both. I believe the website also has a phone # should you still have questions after reviewing. Anything else drop me another line Al -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Tom Hodges Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 8:26 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] best talking thermostat Al, Would you tell us which model you purchased and the price? I am, of course, assuming the have more than one model. Thanks, Tom From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Terrie Robbins Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 7:12 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] best talking thermostat Ron, I did not see a lot of response to your post so i thought I'd add my two cents. The 800 + choices you found as a result of your search must have considerable duplication as I don't think there are that many vendors our there. I have only used one model and that is the VIP talking thermostat. The website is: www.talkingthermostat.com I actually have two of them in my home and have never had any problem with either one The support from the company is fantastic should you need it. The directions that accompany the unit are very blind friendly and the unit can be installed without sighted assistance if needed. The unit is easy to program or simply use as a standard thermostat. Visit the website and write back with additional questions if needed. When you log onto the site, you will actually hear what the voice in the thermostat sounds like Al -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com ]On Behalf Of Ron Yearns Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 10:11 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [BlindHandyMan] best talking thermostat Well someone at our Blind amateur radio club asked about the best talking thermostat. I saw about eight hundred plus choices on google. What is the experiences of the group? Ron [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Cliff, I need more screw drivers as I can never seem to find the one particular driver I need at any given time. Your story gives me the heeby geebies. The only thing I find more horrifying than the ignorance in the sighted community about what a blind person can do, is the ignorance in the blind community about what a blind person can do. If other blind people can't imagine a blind person doing this or that, then how can we possibly get the sighted community to believe it. Incredibly sad story. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu Tel:(412) 268-9081
RE: [BlindHandyMan] best talking thermostat
Wow! Expensive. The last programmable thermostat I bought, which is non talking, was thirty nine dollars at Lowes. An extra one hundred dollars for the voice is a little hard for me to justify. I've had the same program in it since I bought it five years ago. Once In a while I manually adjust the current temperature by holding down the up or down arrow button for a count of three, then I tap the button the number of degrees that I want it changed. When the next programmed cycle comes around, it goes back to the regular program. Regards, Tom From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Terrie Robbins Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 9:57 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] best talking thermostat Tom, Bought my latest one on 1/19/09 for $139.95 directly from their website. If memory serves me correct, their are two different models, one for regular forced hot air furnace with a blower the other for heat pumps. The website is very good at telling you which model you will need depending on your heating/cooling needs. We have a gas furnace and central air and the unit controls both. I believe the website also has a phone # should you still have questions after reviewing. Anything else drop me another line Al -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com ]On Behalf Of Tom Hodges Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 8:26 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] best talking thermostat Al, Would you tell us which model you purchased and the price? I am, of course, assuming the have more than one model. Thanks, Tom From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Alan Terrie Robbins Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 7:12 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] best talking thermostat Ron, I did not see a lot of response to your post so i thought I'd add my two cents. The 800 + choices you found as a result of your search must have considerable duplication as I don't think there are that many vendors our there. I have only used one model and that is the VIP talking thermostat. The website is: www.talkingthermostat.com I actually have two of them in my home and have never had any problem with either one The support from the company is fantastic should you need it. The directions that accompany the unit are very blind friendly and the unit can be installed without sighted assistance if needed. The unit is easy to program or simply use as a standard thermostat. Visit the website and write back with additional questions if needed. When you log onto the site, you will actually hear what the voice in the thermostat sounds like Al -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com ]On Behalf Of Ron Yearns Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 10:11 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [BlindHandyMan] best talking thermostat Well someone at our Blind amateur radio club asked about the best talking thermostat. I saw about eight hundred plus choices on google. What is the experiences of the group? Ron [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [BlindHandyMan] surprising question
I just counted my screw drivers. I have 57 of them. I must have lost one or two of them, I thought I had more. Tom From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Rossi Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 10:02 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] surprising question Cliff, I need more screw drivers as I can never seem to find the one particular driver I need at any given time. Your story gives me the heeby geebies. The only thing I find more horrifying than the ignorance in the sighted community about what a blind person can do, is the ignorance in the blind community about what a blind person can do. If other blind people can't imagine a blind person doing this or that, then how can we possibly get the sighted community to believe it. Incredibly sad story. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu mailto:dr25%40andrew.cmu.edu Tel: (412) 268-9081 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [BlindHandyMan] best talking thermostat
Tom, You are right, They are expensive as are most things for us blind folks. Just boils down to what each one feels a product is worth. Al -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Tom Hodges Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 10:28 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] best talking thermostat Wow! Expensive. The last programmable thermostat I bought, which is non talking, was thirty nine dollars at Lowes. An extra one hundred dollars for the voice is a little hard for me to justify. I've had the same program in it since I bought it five years ago. Once In a while I manually adjust the current temperature by holding down the up or down arrow button for a count of three, then I tap the button the number of degrees that I want it changed. When the next programmed cycle comes around, it goes back to the regular program. Regards, Tom From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Terrie Robbins Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 9:57 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] best talking thermostat Tom, Bought my latest one on 1/19/09 for $139.95 directly from their website. If memory serves me correct, their are two different models, one for regular forced hot air furnace with a blower the other for heat pumps. The website is very good at telling you which model you will need depending on your heating/cooling needs. We have a gas furnace and central air and the unit controls both. I believe the website also has a phone # should you still have questions after reviewing. Anything else drop me another line Al -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com ]On Behalf Of Tom Hodges Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 8:26 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] best talking thermostat Al, Would you tell us which model you purchased and the price? I am, of course, assuming the have more than one model. Thanks, Tom From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Alan Terrie Robbins Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 7:12 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] best talking thermostat Ron, I did not see a lot of response to your post so i thought I'd add my two cents. The 800 + choices you found as a result of your search must have considerable duplication as I don't think there are that many vendors our there. I have only used one model and that is the VIP talking thermostat. The website is: www.talkingthermostat.com I actually have two of them in my home and have never had any problem with either one The support from the company is fantastic should you need it. The directions that accompany the unit are very blind friendly and the unit can be installed without sighted assistance if needed. The unit is easy to program or simply use as a standard thermostat. Visit the website and write back with additional questions if needed. When you log onto the site, you will actually hear what the voice in the thermostat sounds like Al -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com ]On Behalf Of Ron Yearns Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 10:11 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [BlindHandyMan] best talking thermostat Well someone at our Blind amateur radio club asked about the best talking thermostat. I saw about eight hundred plus choices on google. What is the experiences of the group? Ron [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Yeah, I guess you're right. I don't want to pay that for a thermostat, but, I didn't hesitate to buy an electronic level, that beeps, for about a hundred dollars. My biggest mistake was spending about a hundred for the Cobalt, talking tape measure, but, I don't want to open that can of worms on here again. Tom From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Terrie Robbins Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 10:42 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] best talking thermostat Tom, You are right, They are expensive as are most things for us blind folks. Just boils down to what each one feels a product is worth. Al -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com ]On Behalf Of Tom Hodges Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 10:28 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] best talking thermostat Wow! Expensive. The last programmable thermostat I bought, which is non talking, was thirty nine dollars at Lowes. An extra one hundred dollars for the voice is a little hard for me to justify. I've had the same program in it since I bought it five years ago. Once In a while I manually adjust the current temperature by holding down the up or down arrow button for a count of three, then I tap the button the number of degrees that I want it changed. When the next programmed cycle comes around, it goes back to the regular program. Regards, Tom From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Alan Terrie Robbins Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 9:57 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] best talking thermostat Tom, Bought my latest one on 1/19/09 for $139.95 directly from their website. If memory serves me correct, their are two different models, one for regular forced hot air furnace with a blower the other for heat pumps. The website is very good at telling you which model you will need depending on your heating/cooling needs. We have a gas furnace and central air and the unit controls both. I believe the website also has a phone # should you still have questions after reviewing. Anything else drop me another line Al -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com ]On Behalf Of Tom Hodges Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 8:26 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] best talking thermostat Al, Would you tell us which model you purchased and the price? I am, of course, assuming the have more than one model. Thanks, Tom From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Alan Terrie Robbins Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 7:12 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] best talking thermostat Ron, I did not see a lot of response to your post so i thought I'd add my two cents. The 800 + choices you found as a result of your search must have considerable duplication as I don't think there are that many vendors our there. I have only used one model and that is the VIP talking thermostat. The website is: www.talkingthermostat.com I actually have two of them in my home and have never had any problem with either one The support from the company is fantastic should you need it. The directions that accompany the unit are very blind friendly and the unit can be installed without sighted assistance if needed. The unit is easy to program or simply use as a standard thermostat. Visit the website and write back with additional questions if needed. When you log onto the site, you will actually hear what the voice in the thermostat sounds like Al -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com ]On Behalf Of Ron Yearns Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 10:11 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com
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Does anyone know a good handle out there I can get for my screw driver bits? I have a ton of those and my good ratcheting handle walked off in my brother's pocket. My brother is no longer welcome in my home much because of general untrustworthyness stemming from drug use and bad choices, so I feel pretty confident in searching for a new one to buy. This handle had a ratcheting and locking piece, and you could change the direction of the ratcheting with a switch. The only thing it didn't do was bend, or fold sideways and I figure they have those. I got this handle in a socket and wrench set, it was a package deal, probably by craftsman The screw driver bits are probably six sided ends which fit into the screwdriver handle. I think that's pretty standard. I had another handle, but it's not ratcheting. Just figured someone might have a suggestion which would save me the frustration of buying that which I can't see under the plastic. Thanks, Matt - Original Message - From: Tom Hodges To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 9:32 AM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] surprising question I just counted my screw drivers. I have 57 of them. I must have lost one or two of them, I thought I had more. Tom From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Rossi Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 10:02 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] surprising question Cliff, I need more screw drivers as I can never seem to find the one particular driver I need at any given time. Your story gives me the heeby geebies. The only thing I find more horrifying than the ignorance in the sighted community about what a blind person can do, is the ignorance in the blind community about what a blind person can do. If other blind people can't imagine a blind person doing this or that, then how can we possibly get the sighted community to believe it. Incredibly sad story. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu mailto:dr25%40andrew.cmu.edu Tel: (412) 268-9081 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Greetings, You know, I have been a do-it-yourselfer for years now, and I find myself right smack in the middle of this spectrum. On the one hand, I can do a lot of my own plumbing, basic carpentry, rudimentary electronics, auto mechanics, taking care of livestock, computer maintenance, cooking and basic home repair, which is a highly generalized term indeed. However, I am not in the same league as some of you cats, from whom I am learning a lot by merely reading your posts. On the other hand, I some times need to hire sighted assistance. For instance, I had to pay to have a new roof put on our home back in October. It is a white metal roof, which should reflect some of this Florida heat come next summer. I've heard lots of good things about white metal roofs lately, so I believe it was worth the $3,750. I don't know how to use a weed-eater and otherwise mow the lawn, so I am buying a riding mower and intend to hire someone to do that. That is unless some of you mow your own loans and don't mind telling a fellow how you go about doing it. The idea of not knowing how to work on a kitchen spigot is inconceivable and downright disturbing to me. Talk about learned helplessness. Then too, there are the misguided perceptions of much of the sighted world, that assume by default that this sort of thing is par-for-course. Bright Blessings, RiverWind Feel free to visit my website and my blog and learn more about me and what I stand for. My Website http://www.shellworld.net/~riverwind My Blog http://windraven13.livejournal.com/ On Mon, 16 Nov 2009, Dan Rossi wrote: Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:02:25 -0500 (EST) To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com From: Dan Rossi d...@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] surprising question Cliff, I need more screw drivers as I can never seem to find the one particular driver I need at any given time. Your story gives me the heeby geebies. The only thing I find more horrifying than the ignorance in the sighted community about what a blind person can do, is the ignorance in the blind community about what a blind person can do. If other blind people can't imagine a blind person doing this or that, then how can we possibly get the sighted community to believe it. Incredibly sad story. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu Tel: (412) 268-9081 Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links
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Sorry RiverWind, I can't address you by name because if I ever knew it I have forgotten. Well you know loads of sighted people hire others to do a variety of things including very simple things. Most often I find people interested largely because they don't or think they can't perform many of the things I do. It isn't just the blind. Janet and I mow our lawns but we have deliberately designed much of the landscaping specifically with that in mind. Janet won't use my power mower but does like her reel style push hand mower. I have a neighbour immediately north of me who doesn't do anything! what does get done he hires out. It isn't always a matter of blindness or over protectiveness, often it is one of ambition and motivation much of which can be destroyed by over protective sheltering family and friends. It is interesting working with brain injury, a bit of a passion of mine. Even my peers who don't have quite as much specialized training in the field that I have are often amazed at what some of my patients are capable of doing. It isn't simple necessarily but very often they don't perform as well as they might because we don't expect it of them. Often what they give me is just because I expect them to and they rise to the occasion. If I can get a stroke victim to step up a ladder for example it isn't because I much care if he or she ever climbs a ladder but the strength and coordination required makes simple ambulation easy by comparison and the skill set carries over. Put a stick or cane in their hand and you have relegated them, psychologically if not physically and in other ways to being a cripple. Too often this is necessary of course but beginning with that as the ultimate goal immediately limits imagination and expectation. Raising kids is much the same thing. I doubt my kids ever understood that anything less than post-secondary education was even an option. Much of what they wanted they were expected to go out and get and they did. OK Enough already. - Original Message - From: RiverWind To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 11:12 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] surprising question Greetings, You know, I have been a do-it-yourselfer for years now, and I find myself right smack in the middle of this spectrum. On the one hand, I can do a lot of my own plumbing, basic carpentry, rudimentary electronics, auto mechanics, taking care of livestock, computer maintenance, cooking and basic home repair, which is a highly generalized term indeed. However, I am not in the same league as some of you cats, from whom I am learning a lot by merely reading your posts. On the other hand, I some times need to hire sighted assistance. For instance, I had to pay to have a new roof put on our home back in October. It is a white metal roof, which should reflect some of this Florida heat come next summer. I've heard lots of good things about white metal roofs lately, so I believe it was worth the $3,750. I don't know how to use a weed-eater and otherwise mow the lawn, so I am buying a riding mower and intend to hire someone to do that. That is unless some of you mow your own loans and don't mind telling a fellow how you go about doing it. The idea of not knowing how to work on a kitchen spigot is inconceivable and downright disturbing to me. Talk about learned helplessness. Then too, there are the misguided perceptions of much of the sighted world, that assume by default that this sort of thing is par-for-course. Bright Blessings, RiverWind Feel free to visit my website and my blog and learn more about me and what I stand for. My Website http://www.shellworld.net/~riverwind My Blog http://windraven13.livejournal.com/ On Mon, 16 Nov 2009, Dan Rossi wrote: Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:02:25 -0500 (EST) To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com From: Dan Rossi d...@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] surprising question Cliff, I need more screw drivers as I can never seem to find the one particular driver I need at any given time. Your story gives me the heeby geebies. The only thing I find more horrifying than the ignorance in the sighted community about what a blind person can do, is the ignorance in the blind community about what a blind person can do. If other blind people can't imagine a blind person doing this or that, then how can we possibly get the sighted community to believe it. Incredibly sad story. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu Tel: (412) 268-9081 Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link
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River, I think each of us take on those tasks which we are comfortable with, or interested in. I called my father-in-law in to fix the walls in the soon to be nursery. Could I have patched the walls? Possibly, but I have no skill in it. He has many years of practice and can do it faster and significantly better than I can. When he is done, the walls in the nursery will be the best in the house. Other blind folks can do taping and spackling, it's just not something I want to take on. I might take on a roof, but hate plumbing. I might build a deck, but have never worked under the hood of a car. To each his own. It's not the fact that a particular blind person does this or doesn't do that. The disturbing issue is when people believe that if one blind person can't do something, no blind person can. Or, if one blind person can do something then all blind people should be able to do that. It just doesn't work that way. Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu Tel:(412) 268-9081
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Aloha Matt, I would take one of your bits with you and tell them to open the package for you so you know what you're buying. If they are doing their job, they won't mind opening it if they think you're going to buy it. If they open the wrong one, or sell you the wrong one, they'll have to deal with an open package when you return it anyway. I hate those plastic packages. If they give me trouble, I ask them if they would buy something they couldn't see and didn't know if it would work. Changes their attitude quickly. Betsy At 06:03 AM 11/16/2009, you wrote: Does anyone know a good handle out there I can get for my screw driver bits? I have a ton of those and my good ratcheting handle walked off in my brother's pocket. My brother is no longer welcome in my home much because of general untrustworthyness stemming from drug use and bad choices, so I feel pretty confident in searching for a new one to buy. This handle had a ratcheting and locking piece, and you could change the direction of the ratcheting with a switch. The only thing it didn't do was bend, or fold sideways and I figure they have those. I got this handle in a socket and wrench set, it was a package deal, probably by craftsman The screw driver bits are probably six sided ends which fit into the screwdriver handle. I think that's pretty standard. I had another handle, but it's not ratcheting. Just figured someone might have a suggestion which would save me the frustration of buying that which I can't see under the plastic. Thanks, Matt - Original Message - From: Tom Hodges To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 9:32 AM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] surprising question I just counted my screw drivers. I have 57 of them. I must have lost one or two of them, I thought I had more. Tom From: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Rossi Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 10:02 AM To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] surprising question Cliff, I need more screw drivers as I can never seem to find the one particular driver I need at any given time. Your story gives me the heeby geebies. The only thing I find more horrifying than the ignorance in the sighted community about what a blind person can do, is the ignorance in the blind community about what a blind person can do. If other blind people can't imagine a blind person doing this or that, then how can we possibly get the sighted community to believe it. Incredibly sad story. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: mailto:dr25%40andrew.cmu.edud...@andrew.cmu.edu mailto:dr25%40andrew.cmu.edu Tel: (412) 268-9081 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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I agree with you a hundred percent Betsy. Lowes is very good about opening packages for inspection. Home Depot, on the other hand, is not so accommodating but if you tell them what you said, all of a sudden, they change their attitude. Tom Hodges From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Betsy Whitney Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 1:41 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] surprising question Aloha Matt, I would take one of your bits with you and tell them to open the package for you so you know what you're buying. If they are doing their job, they won't mind opening it if they think you're going to buy it. If they open the wrong one, or sell you the wrong one, they'll have to deal with an open package when you return it anyway. I hate those plastic packages. If they give me trouble, I ask them if they would buy something they couldn't see and didn't know if it would work. Changes their attitude quickly. Betsy At 06:03 AM 11/16/2009, you wrote: Does anyone know a good handle out there I can get for my screw driver bits? I have a ton of those and my good ratcheting handle walked off in my brother's pocket. My brother is no longer welcome in my home much because of general untrustworthyness stemming from drug use and bad choices, so I feel pretty confident in searching for a new one to buy. This handle had a ratcheting and locking piece, and you could change the direction of the ratcheting with a switch. The only thing it didn't do was bend, or fold sideways and I figure they have those. I got this handle in a socket and wrench set, it was a package deal, probably by craftsman The screw driver bits are probably six sided ends which fit into the screwdriver handle. I think that's pretty standard. I had another handle, but it's not ratcheting. Just figured someone might have a suggestion which would save me the frustration of buying that which I can't see under the plastic. Thanks, Matt - Original Message - From: Tom Hodges To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 9:32 AM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] surprising question I just counted my screw drivers. I have 57 of them. I must have lost one or two of them, I thought I had more. Tom From: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Dan Rossi Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 10:02 AM To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] surprising question Cliff, I need more screw drivers as I can never seem to find the one particular driver I need at any given time. Your story gives me the heeby geebies. The only thing I find more horrifying than the ignorance in the sighted community about what a blind person can do, is the ignorance in the blind community about what a blind person can do. If other blind people can't imagine a blind person doing this or that, then how can we possibly get the sighted community to believe it. Incredibly sad story. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: mailto:dr25%40andrew.cmu.edud...@andrew.cmu.edu mailto:dr25%40andrew.cmu.edu mailto:dr25%40andrew.cmu.edu Tel: (412) 268-9081 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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And some of this has little to do with blindness. I have a friend who is an economist, very intelligent etc. He cannot do anything mechanical, period. He even has to get his brother-in-law to attach his water filter adapters. As for myself, I enjoy doing certain things, call it rough carpentry, but I'd never even think about doing the kind of finish work many folks on this List are apparently very good at. I could probably do more plumming than I do, but nheither my wife or I drive, and lack of an easy and quick way to get to the hardware or plumming supply place to get parts for something you just accidentally broke definitely makes me hesitant sometines when I probably don't need to be. Bill Stephan Kansas Citty MO Email: wstep...@everestkc.net Phone: (816)803-2469 - Original Message - From: Dan Rossi d...@andrew.cmu.edu Date: Monday, November 16, 2009 10:56 am Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] surprising question River, I think each of us take on those tasks which we are comfortable with, or interested in. I called my father-in-law in to fix the walls in the soon to be nursery. Could I have patched the walls? Possibly, but I have no skill in it. He has many years of practice and can do it faster and significantly better than I can. When he is done, the walls in the nursery will be the best in the house. Other blind folks can do taping and spackling, it's just not something I want to take on. I might take on a roof, but hate plumbing. I might build a deck, but have never worked under the hood of a car. To each his own. It's not the fact that a particular blind person does this or doesn't do that. The disturbing issue is when people believe that if one blind person can't do something, no blind person can. Or, if one blind person can do something then all blind people should be able to do that. It just doesn't work that way. Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu Tel: (412) 268-9081
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Our Home Depot learned this lesson when we went to buy a $700 item. My husband was with me so they thought they could ignore my request to open a large box. When I said that we would be going to Lowes which is located 125 miles away on the other side of the island because they knew the value of customer service, the man had the nerve to actually laugh. I laughed too, on my way out of the store. I won't deal with that clerk anymore. Betsy At 09:01 AM 11/16/2009, you wrote: I agree with you a hundred percent Betsy. Lowes is very good about opening packages for inspection. Home Depot, on the other hand, is not so accommodating but if you tell them what you said, all of a sudden, they change their attitude. Tom Hodges From: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Betsy Whitney Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 1:41 PM To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] surprising question Aloha Matt, I would take one of your bits with you and tell them to open the package for you so you know what you're buying. If they are doing their job, they won't mind opening it if they think you're going to buy it. If they open the wrong one, or sell you the wrong one, they'll have to deal with an open package when you return it anyway. I hate those plastic packages. If they give me trouble, I ask them if they would buy something they couldn't see and didn't know if it would work. Changes their attitude quickly. Betsy At 06:03 AM 11/16/2009, you wrote: Does anyone know a good handle out there I can get for my screw driver bits? I have a ton of those and my good ratcheting handle walked off in my brother's pocket. My brother is no longer welcome in my home much because of general untrustworthyness stemming from drug use and bad choices, so I feel pretty confident in searching for a new one to buy. This handle had a ratcheting and locking piece, and you could change the direction of the ratcheting with a switch. The only thing it didn't do was bend, or fold sideways and I figure they have those. I got this handle in a socket and wrench set, it was a package deal, probably by craftsman The screw driver bits are probably six sided ends which fit into the screwdriver handle. I think that's pretty standard. I had another handle, but it's not ratcheting. Just figured someone might have a suggestion which would save me the frustration of buying that which I can't see under the plastic. Thanks, Matt - Original Message - From: Tom Hodges To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.commailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 9:32 AM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] surprising question I just counted my screw drivers. I have 57 of them. I must have lost one or two of them, I thought I had more. Tom From: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Dan Rossi Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 10:02 AM To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] surprising question Cliff, I need more screw drivers as I can never seem to find the one particular driver I need at any given time. Your story gives me the heeby geebies. The only thing I find more horrifying than the ignorance in the sighted community about what a blind person can do, is the ignorance in the blind community about what a blind person can do. If other blind people can't imagine a blind person doing this or that, then how can we possibly get the sighted community to believe it. Incredibly sad story. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: mailto:dr25%40andrew.cmu.edud...@andrew.cmu.edu mailto:dr25%40andrew.cmu.edu mailto:dr25%40andrew.cmu.edu Tel: (412) 268-9081 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Hi Bill, I think that you are correct. It isn't any different for people who are blind than for those who are not. Just think about all of the plumbers in the world. If only people who are blind needed them, their wouldn't be much work. Some people don't enjoy such things and some are never encouraged to try. It reminds me of my grandma and 3 of her 4 daughters who never learned to drive because they were encouraged to get a husband to drive for them. Betsy At 09:08 AM 11/16/2009, you wrote: And some of this has little to do with blindness. I have a friend who is an economist, very intelligent etc. He cannot do anything mechanical, period. He even has to get his brother-in-law to attach his water filter adapters. As for myself, I enjoy doing certain things, call it rough carpentry, but I'd never even think about doing the kind of finish work many folks on this List are apparently very good at. I could probably do more plumming than I do, but nheither my wife or I drive, and lack of an easy and quick way to get to the hardware or plumming supply place to get parts for something you just accidentally broke definitely makes me hesitant sometines when I probably don't need to be. Bill Stephan Kansas Citty MO Email: mailto:wstephan%40everestkc.netwstep...@everestkc.net Phone: (816)803-2469 - Original Message - From: Dan Rossi mailto:dr25%40andrew.cmu.edud...@andrew.cmu.edu Date: Monday, November 16, 2009 10:56 am Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] surprising question River, I think each of us take on those tasks which we are comfortable with, or interested in. I called my father-in-law in to fix the walls in the soon to be nursery. Could I have patched the walls? Possibly, but I have no skill in it. He has many years of practice and can do it faster and significantly better than I can. When he is done, the walls in the nursery will be the best in the house. Other blind folks can do taping and spackling, it's just not something I want to take on. I might take on a roof, but hate plumbing. I might build a deck, but have never worked under the hood of a car. To each his own. It's not the fact that a particular blind person does this or doesn't do that. The disturbing issue is when people believe that if one blind person can't do something, no blind person can. Or, if one blind person can do something then all blind people should be able to do that. It just doesn't work that way. Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: mailto:dr25%40andrew.cmu.edud...@andrew.cmu.edu Tel: (412) 268-9081 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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They try a little harder around here in Newport, Kentucky. The reason is lowes and Home Depot are about 8 miles apart. I am just across the bridge from Cincinnati, Ohio and there are probably three more of each in the general area. From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Betsy Whitney Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 2:08 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] surprising question Our Home Depot learned this lesson when we went to buy a $700 item. My husband was with me so they thought they could ignore my request to open a large box. When I said that we would be going to Lowes which is located 125 miles away on the other side of the island because they knew the value of customer service, the man had the nerve to actually laugh. I laughed too, on my way out of the store. I won't deal with that clerk anymore. Betsy At 09:01 AM 11/16/2009, you wrote: I agree with you a hundred percent Betsy. Lowes is very good about opening packages for inspection. Home Depot, on the other hand, is not so accommodating but if you tell them what you said, all of a sudden, they change their attitude. Tom Hodges From: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Betsy Whitney Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 1:41 PM To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] surprising question Aloha Matt, I would take one of your bits with you and tell them to open the package for you so you know what you're buying. If they are doing their job, they won't mind opening it if they think you're going to buy it. If they open the wrong one, or sell you the wrong one, they'll have to deal with an open package when you return it anyway. I hate those plastic packages. If they give me trouble, I ask them if they would buy something they couldn't see and didn't know if it would work. Changes their attitude quickly. Betsy At 06:03 AM 11/16/2009, you wrote: Does anyone know a good handle out there I can get for my screw driver bits? I have a ton of those and my good ratcheting handle walked off in my brother's pocket. My brother is no longer welcome in my home much because of general untrustworthyness stemming from drug use and bad choices, so I feel pretty confident in searching for a new one to buy. This handle had a ratcheting and locking piece, and you could change the direction of the ratcheting with a switch. The only thing it didn't do was bend, or fold sideways and I figure they have those. I got this handle in a socket and wrench set, it was a package deal, probably by craftsman The screw driver bits are probably six sided ends which fit into the screwdriver handle. I think that's pretty standard. I had another handle, but it's not ratcheting. Just figured someone might have a suggestion which would save me the frustration of buying that which I can't see under the plastic. Thanks, Matt - Original Message - From: Tom Hodges To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.commailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups. comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 9:32 AM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] surprising question I just counted my screw drivers. I have 57 of them. I must have lost one or two of them, I thought I had more. Tom From: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Dan Rossi Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 10:02 AM To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] surprising question Cliff, I need more screw drivers as I can never seem to find the one particular driver I need at any given time. Your story gives me the heeby geebies. The only thing I find more horrifying than the ignorance in the sighted community about what a blind person can do, is the ignorance in the blind community about what a blind person can do. If other blind people can't imagine a blind person doing this or that, then how can we possibly get the sighted community to believe it. Incredibly sad story. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: mailto:dr25%40andrew.cmu.edud...@andrew.cmu.edu mailto:dr25%40andrew.cmu.edu mailto:dr25%40andrew.cmu.edu mailto:dr25%40andrew.cmu.edu Tel: (412) 268-9081 [Non-text portions of this
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Where I live in upstate New York, Lowes Home Depot are actually right next door to each other. I have had good luck with both Al -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Tom Hodges Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 2:29 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] surprising question They try a little harder around here in Newport, Kentucky. The reason is lowes and Home Depot are about 8 miles apart. I am just across the bridge from Cincinnati, Ohio and there are probably three more of each in the general area. From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Betsy Whitney Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 2:08 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] surprising question Our Home Depot learned this lesson when we went to buy a $700 item. My husband was with me so they thought they could ignore my request to open a large box. When I said that we would be going to Lowes which is located 125 miles away on the other side of the island because they knew the value of customer service, the man had the nerve to actually laugh. I laughed too, on my way out of the store. I won't deal with that clerk anymore. Betsy At 09:01 AM 11/16/2009, you wrote: I agree with you a hundred percent Betsy. Lowes is very good about opening packages for inspection. Home Depot, on the other hand, is not so accommodating but if you tell them what you said, all of a sudden, they change their attitude. Tom Hodges From: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Betsy Whitney Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 1:41 PM To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] surprising question Aloha Matt, I would take one of your bits with you and tell them to open the package for you so you know what you're buying. If they are doing their job, they won't mind opening it if they think you're going to buy it. If they open the wrong one, or sell you the wrong one, they'll have to deal with an open package when you return it anyway. I hate those plastic packages. If they give me trouble, I ask them if they would buy something they couldn't see and didn't know if it would work. Changes their attitude quickly. Betsy At 06:03 AM 11/16/2009, you wrote: Does anyone know a good handle out there I can get for my screw driver bits? I have a ton of those and my good ratcheting handle walked off in my brother's pocket. My brother is no longer welcome in my home much because of general untrustworthyness stemming from drug use and bad choices, so I feel pretty confident in searching for a new one to buy. This handle had a ratcheting and locking piece, and you could change the direction of the ratcheting with a switch. The only thing it didn't do was bend, or fold sideways and I figure they have those. I got this handle in a socket and wrench set, it was a package deal, probably by craftsman The screw driver bits are probably six sided ends which fit into the screwdriver handle. I think that's pretty standard. I had another handle, but it's not ratcheting. Just figured someone might have a suggestion which would save me the frustration of buying that which I can't see under the plastic. Thanks, Matt - Original Message - From: Tom Hodges To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.commailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroup s. comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 9:32 AM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] surprising question I just counted my screw drivers. I have 57 of them. I must have lost one or two of them, I thought I had more. Tom From: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Dan Rossi Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 10:02 AM To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] surprising question Cliff, I need more screw drivers as I can never seem to find the one particular driver I need at any given time. Your story gives me the heeby geebies. The only thing I find
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Thanks for responses on this. I will be trying lows soon. Have had a bad experience with Home depot before and don't prefer them anymore. - Original Message - From: Alan Terrie Robbins To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 1:33 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] surprising question Where I live in upstate New York, Lowes Home Depot are actually right next door to each other. I have had good luck with both Al -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Tom Hodges Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 2:29 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] surprising question They try a little harder around here in Newport, Kentucky. The reason is lowes and Home Depot are about 8 miles apart. I am just across the bridge from Cincinnati, Ohio and there are probably three more of each in the general area. From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Betsy Whitney Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 2:08 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] surprising question Our Home Depot learned this lesson when we went to buy a $700 item. My husband was with me so they thought they could ignore my request to open a large box. When I said that we would be going to Lowes which is located 125 miles away on the other side of the island because they knew the value of customer service, the man had the nerve to actually laugh. I laughed too, on my way out of the store. I won't deal with that clerk anymore. Betsy At 09:01 AM 11/16/2009, you wrote: I agree with you a hundred percent Betsy. Lowes is very good about opening packages for inspection. Home Depot, on the other hand, is not so accommodating but if you tell them what you said, all of a sudden, they change their attitude. Tom Hodges From: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Betsy Whitney Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 1:41 PM To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] surprising question Aloha Matt, I would take one of your bits with you and tell them to open the package for you so you know what you're buying. If they are doing their job, they won't mind opening it if they think you're going to buy it. If they open the wrong one, or sell you the wrong one, they'll have to deal with an open package when you return it anyway. I hate those plastic packages. If they give me trouble, I ask them if they would buy something they couldn't see and didn't know if it would work. Changes their attitude quickly. Betsy At 06:03 AM 11/16/2009, you wrote: Does anyone know a good handle out there I can get for my screw driver bits? I have a ton of those and my good ratcheting handle walked off in my brother's pocket. My brother is no longer welcome in my home much because of general untrustworthyness stemming from drug use and bad choices, so I feel pretty confident in searching for a new one to buy. This handle had a ratcheting and locking piece, and you could change the direction of the ratcheting with a switch. The only thing it didn't do was bend, or fold sideways and I figure they have those. I got this handle in a socket and wrench set, it was a package deal, probably by craftsman The screw driver bits are probably six sided ends which fit into the screwdriver handle. I think that's pretty standard. I had another handle, but it's not ratcheting. Just figured someone might have a suggestion which would save me the frustration of buying that which I can't see under the plastic. Thanks, Matt - Original Message - From: Tom Hodges To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.commailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroup s. comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 9:32 AM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] surprising question I just counted my screw drivers. I have 57 of them. I must have lost one or two of them, I thought I had more. Tom From: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Dan Rossi Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 10:02 AM To:
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I find that to be true and probably more so at Home Depot, but I think a lot of this has to do with the fact we've gotten to know some of the employees. Lord knows I never miss a chance to pick on the cute young female employees. grin. On Nov 16, 2009, at 2:33 PM, Alan Terrie Robbins wrote: Where I live in upstate New York, Lowes Home Depot are actually right next door to each other. I have had good luck with both Al -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Tom Hodges Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 2:29 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] surprising question They try a little harder around here in Newport, Kentucky. The reason is lowes and Home Depot are about 8 miles apart. I am just across the bridge from Cincinnati, Ohio and there are probably three more of each in the general area. From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Betsy Whitney Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 2:08 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] surprising question Our Home Depot learned this lesson when we went to buy a $700 item. My husband was with me so they thought they could ignore my request to open a large box. When I said that we would be going to Lowes which is located 125 miles away on the other side of the island because they knew the value of customer service, the man had the nerve to actually laugh. I laughed too, on my way out of the store. I won't deal with that clerk anymore. Betsy At 09:01 AM 11/16/2009, you wrote: I agree with you a hundred percent Betsy. Lowes is very good about opening packages for inspection. Home Depot, on the other hand, is not so accommodating but if you tell them what you said, all of a sudden, they change their attitude. Tom Hodges From: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Betsy Whitney Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 1:41 PM To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] surprising question Aloha Matt, I would take one of your bits with you and tell them to open the package for you so you know what you're buying. If they are doing their job, they won't mind opening it if they think you're going to buy it. If they open the wrong one, or sell you the wrong one, they'll have to deal with an open package when you return it anyway. I hate those plastic packages. If they give me trouble, I ask them if they would buy something they couldn't see and didn't know if it would work. Changes their attitude quickly. Betsy At 06:03 AM 11/16/2009, you wrote: Does anyone know a good handle out there I can get for my screw driver bits? I have a ton of those and my good ratcheting handle walked off in my brother's pocket. My brother is no longer welcome in my home much because of general untrustworthyness stemming from drug use and bad choices, so I feel pretty confident in searching for a new one to buy. This handle had a ratcheting and locking piece, and you could change the direction of the ratcheting with a switch. The only thing it didn't do was bend, or fold sideways and I figure they have those. I got this handle in a socket and wrench set, it was a package deal, probably by craftsman The screw driver bits are probably six sided ends which fit into the screwdriver handle. I think that's pretty standard. I had another handle, but it's not ratcheting. Just figured someone might have a suggestion which would save me the frustration of buying that which I can't see under the plastic. Thanks, Matt - Original Message - From: Tom Hodges To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.commailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroup s. comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 9:32 AM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] surprising question I just counted my screw drivers. I have 57 of them. I must have lost one or two of them, I thought I had more. Tom From: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Dan Rossi Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 10:02 AM To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] surprising question
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there are still folks at big box hardware stores who make it seem like one must get their approval and clearance before buying a power tool. I've been tempted more than once to say that I was going to put the thing in my face and turn it on. Ignorance is a plague and the worst thing is that it seems to demand it's own bill of rights. Can't blame folks who are innocent. but it seems like a plague sometimes. On Sun, 15 Nov 2009, clifford wrote: Dear List members: I was in a chat room on a site for blind folks and their friends, and the subject turned to the events of the day. My first wife and I engaged in some spring cleaning in November, and we can not figure out whether we are behind several months, or ahead several months. In any event, I was commenting about my collection of screw-drivers, which has gotten out of control, and I am telling all of my friends and family that this Christmas need not involve screw-drivers. One of the participants on the site asked me, what would a blind person do with a screw-driver. I explained that I had disassembled a chair today and reassembled the good parts from two chairs to make one good one. This gentleman apparently has not been exposed to handyman activities at all. While I don't perform as many tasks as I did as a younger man, I am astounded at the lack of opportunity some blind folks have. Their parents, teachers, and friends have protected them too much, in my country boy's opinion. Yours Truly, Clifford Wilson [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Help with air fittings
Just a comment or two. All my quick disconnect fittings came with quarter inch pipe threads. Some places may have them in three eights, maybe just my luck. I have been told to use only black pipe on air and gas as galvanized may have pieces that flake off and may clog orifices. Galvanized was originally made for water use. It does tend to clog with calcium over the years quicker than copper can. Anyway for I think we all agree use black iron. Ron - Original Message - From: Bob Kennedy To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 8:58 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Help with air fittings Sorry to be so late on this one. I have my shop set up with half inch black pipe. Galvanized will work as well. What you can do is use a shut off valve in the line you are branching to. this keeps the air pressure high where you want it. I have a few runs, each one branches off of a T valve. I keep it to half inch until I get to where the fitting goes and then have to use a half to 3/8 reducer. The quick disconnect will thread on to a 3/8 nipple. Not sure about the term they are using there. I guess everything has to have a technical name. I have always run my air lines just like plumbing other than I don't use black or galvanized pipe for water. - Original Message - From: Dale Leavens To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 7:07 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Help with air fittings I am looking or some help and information on air fittings probably from some of you who hang around mechanics shops. I am wanting to set up a bit of a network with a couple of points outside, the driveway and the back yard for example and a couple of points at opposite ends of my basement. There happens to be a sale at boss tools but I am unfamiliar with some of the terminology. There are a couple of 1 to 3 manifolds, one describes an M-style couplings. What are m-style couplings? I believe I would really prefer some sort of device which would permit me to select which part of the network to charge with maybe a ball valve, if these have such they don't describe them as such. Just that it seems unnecessary to charge yards and yards of hose when I only need one. Are you aware of such a device or must I fabricate some sort of panel? There will probably be more questions in due course. Thanks. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] surprising question
Tom! I am surprised that you haven't come across Clifford's practice of giving his wife an ordinal numeral. The charming lady is, I understand, his first and only wife to this stage, and as their marriage is a longstanding event in the scheme of life, it is, on the cards, that she will be his last, but he refers to her as his * first wife, just to keep her in line by reminding her that where there is a * first, there might well be a * second, if she pushes her luck too far! Jewel - Original Message - From: Tom Hodges tomhod...@fuse.net To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 2:42 AM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] surprising question I am a bit confused about your comment about doing something in November with your first wife. The month of November is just half over and you have a second wife in less than one month? Just curious. From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of clifford Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 9:52 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: [BlindHandyMan] surprising question Dear List members: I was in a chat room on a site for blind folks and their friends, and the subject turned to the events of the day. My first wife and I engaged in some spring cleaning in November, and we can not figure out whether we are behind several months, or ahead several months. In any event, I was commenting about my collection of screw-drivers, which has gotten out of control, and I am telling all of my friends and family that this Christmas need not involve screw-drivers. One of the participants on the site asked me, what would a blind person do with a screw-driver. I explained that I had disassembled a chair today and reassembled the good parts from two chairs to make one good one. This gentleman apparently has not been exposed to handyman activities at all. While I don't perform as many tasks as I did as a younger man, I am astounded at the lack of opportunity some blind folks have. Their parents, teachers, and friends have protected them too much, in my country boy's opinion. Yours Truly, Clifford Wilson [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4613 (20091116) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com
Re: [BlindHandyMan] surprising question
I thought the reminder was more for Clifford, so that he will remember how lucky he is and that he could be replaced if he forgets to value his special woman. He does indeed seem to honor her. :) Jennifer - Original Message - From: Jewel To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 5:09 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] surprising question Tom! I am surprised that you haven't come across Clifford's practice of giving his wife an ordinal numeral. The charming lady is, I understand, his first and only wife to this stage, and as their marriage is a longstanding event in the scheme of life, it is, on the cards, that she will be his last, but he refers to her as his * first wife, just to keep her in line by reminding her that where there is a * first, there might well be a * second, if she pushes her luck too far! Jewel - Original Message - From: Tom Hodges tomhod...@fuse.net To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 2:42 AM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] surprising question I am a bit confused about your comment about doing something in November with your first wife. The month of November is just half over and you have a second wife in less than one month? Just curious. From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of clifford Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 9:52 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: [BlindHandyMan] surprising question Dear List members: I was in a chat room on a site for blind folks and their friends, and the subject turned to the events of the day. My first wife and I engaged in some spring cleaning in November, and we can not figure out whether we are behind several months, or ahead several months. In any event, I was commenting about my collection of screw-drivers, which has gotten out of control, and I am telling all of my friends and family that this Christmas need not involve screw-drivers. One of the participants on the site asked me, what would a blind person do with a screw-driver. I explained that I had disassembled a chair today and reassembled the good parts from two chairs to make one good one. This gentleman apparently has not been exposed to handyman activities at all. While I don't perform as many tasks as I did as a younger man, I am astounded at the lack of opportunity some blind folks have. Their parents, teachers, and friends have protected them too much, in my country boy's opinion. Yours Truly, Clifford Wilson [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4613 (20091116) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Help with air fittings
Schedule L copper is bully acceptable, I assure you but that isn't really my question. What is an M-type fitting? Do they make a manifold which includes valves? Thanks. - Original Message - From: Ron Yearns To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 5:49 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Help with air fittings Just a comment or two. All my quick disconnect fittings came with quarter inch pipe threads. Some places may have them in three eights, maybe just my luck. I have been told to use only black pipe on air and gas as galvanized may have pieces that flake off and may clog orifices. Galvanized was originally made for water use. It does tend to clog with calcium over the years quicker than copper can. Anyway for I think we all agree use black iron. Ron - Original Message - From: Bob Kennedy To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 8:58 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Help with air fittings Sorry to be so late on this one. I have my shop set up with half inch black pipe. Galvanized will work as well. What you can do is use a shut off valve in the line you are branching to. this keeps the air pressure high where you want it. I have a few runs, each one branches off of a T valve. I keep it to half inch until I get to where the fitting goes and then have to use a half to 3/8 reducer. The quick disconnect will thread on to a 3/8 nipple. Not sure about the term they are using there. I guess everything has to have a technical name. I have always run my air lines just like plumbing other than I don't use black or galvanized pipe for water. - Original Message - From: Dale Leavens To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 7:07 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Help with air fittings I am looking or some help and information on air fittings probably from some of you who hang around mechanics shops. I am wanting to set up a bit of a network with a couple of points outside, the driveway and the back yard for example and a couple of points at opposite ends of my basement. There happens to be a sale at boss tools but I am unfamiliar with some of the terminology. There are a couple of 1 to 3 manifolds, one describes an M-style couplings. What are m-style couplings? I believe I would really prefer some sort of device which would permit me to select which part of the network to charge with maybe a ball valve, if these have such they don't describe them as such. Just that it seems unnecessary to charge yards and yards of hose when I only need one. Are you aware of such a device or must I fabricate some sort of panel? There will probably be more questions in due course. Thanks. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[BlindHandyMan] Home Depot Story
Hi all, My water heater went south a few days ago. I had a friend come over and he said he couldn't do anything with it since it was copper pipe an he didn't have the necessary tools. He said Lowe's Home Depot had installers who could get a new one in that day. I called Home Depot and purchased a 50-gallon tank for $302 with 6 year warranty. Of course, they had to charge $10 something each for two flex pipe and fittings as their installer required it. There was also a $25 trip charge. The installer charged $189. On his way to our condo, he called and asked where the water heater was located and when I told him it was in the laundry at the bottom of the stairs, he said he wasn't aware we had stairs which he said was $40 extra. So, he had to go back to Home Depot to have this charge added to my bill. I couldn't believe it. I guess the positive thing was I got it installed that day and I didn't have to leave the house but it did cost me $500. I should have at least charged that installer $5 for parking in my space. I have installed a water heater with PVC in the past but I didn't want to tackle the copper either. I guess my laziness cost me this time around. Marvin Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: blindhandyman-dig...@yahoogroups.com blindhandyman-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: blindhandyman-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Screw driver handles was surprising question
I picked up a Kobalt from Lowes. that has the changing angles you were talking about. There are 2 different models, you'll have to look at them to see which one works best for you. - Original Message - From: Matt To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 11:03 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] surprising question Does anyone know a good handle out there I can get for my screw driver bits? I have a ton of those and my good ratcheting handle walked off in my brother's pocket. My brother is no longer welcome in my home much because of general untrustworthyness stemming from drug use and bad choices, so I feel pretty confident in searching for a new one to buy. This handle had a ratcheting and locking piece, and you could change the direction of the ratcheting with a switch. The only thing it didn't do was bend, or fold sideways and I figure they have those. I got this handle in a socket and wrench set, it was a package deal, probably by craftsman The screw driver bits are probably six sided ends which fit into the screwdriver handle. I think that's pretty standard. I had another handle, but it's not ratcheting. Just figured someone might have a suggestion which would save me the frustration of buying that which I can't see under the plastic. Thanks, Matt - Original Message - From: Tom Hodges To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 9:32 AM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] surprising question I just counted my screw drivers. I have 57 of them. I must have lost one or two of them, I thought I had more. Tom From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Rossi Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 10:02 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] surprising question Cliff, I need more screw drivers as I can never seem to find the one particular driver I need at any given time. Your story gives me the heeby geebies. The only thing I find more horrifying than the ignorance in the sighted community about what a blind person can do, is the ignorance in the blind community about what a blind person can do. If other blind people can't imagine a blind person doing this or that, then how can we possibly get the sighted community to believe it. Incredibly sad story. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu mailto:dr25%40andrew.cmu.edu Tel: (412) 268-9081 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [BlindHandyMan] surprising question
There are blind and sighted people who have no interest in things mechanical, or home repairs, etc. Perhaps this gentleman was among them. But he certainly needs an education. By the way, I'm short a #2 Phillips, if you want to send it over. Blessings, Tom -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of clifford Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 8:52 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: [BlindHandyMan] surprising question Dear List members: I was in a chat room on a site for blind folks and their friends, and the subject turned to the events of the day. My first wife and I engaged in some spring cleaning in November, and we can not figure out whether we are behind several months, or ahead several months. In any event, I was commenting about my collection of screw-drivers, which has gotten out of control, and I am telling all of my friends and family that this Christmas need not involve screw-drivers. One of the participants on the site asked me, what would a blind person do with a screw-driver. I explained that I had disassembled a chair today and reassembled the good parts from two chairs to make one good one. This gentleman apparently has not been exposed to handyman activities at all. While I don't perform as many tasks as I did as a younger man, I am astounded at the lack of opportunity some blind folks have. Their parents, teachers, and friends have protected them too much, in my country boy's opinion. Yours Truly, Clifford Wilson [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Help with air fittings
From everything I've had a chance to read about, M is a female connector. It sounds like a union. The descriptions I saw said it had quarter inch female threads, was ideal for air hose assemblies. One site had Milton air tools, a brand I've used for years, and their M style said it was part of the Milton interchangeable series and will work with other fittings with 1/4 NPT fittings. You would think that would be a F style since it is female but that's what I get for thinking... So if you saw a manifold, I would have to think it is a series of female threads in a pipe or bar. All seemed to have a max air pressure of 300 PSI. - Original Message - From: Dale Leavens To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 6:27 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Help with air fittings Schedule L copper is bully acceptable, I assure you but that isn't really my question. What is an M-type fitting? Do they make a manifold which includes valves? Thanks. - Original Message - From: Ron Yearns To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 5:49 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Help with air fittings Just a comment or two. All my quick disconnect fittings came with quarter inch pipe threads. Some places may have them in three eights, maybe just my luck. I have been told to use only black pipe on air and gas as galvanized may have pieces that flake off and may clog orifices. Galvanized was originally made for water use. It does tend to clog with calcium over the years quicker than copper can. Anyway for I think we all agree use black iron. Ron - Original Message - From: Bob Kennedy To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 8:58 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Help with air fittings Sorry to be so late on this one. I have my shop set up with half inch black pipe. Galvanized will work as well. What you can do is use a shut off valve in the line you are branching to. this keeps the air pressure high where you want it. I have a few runs, each one branches off of a T valve. I keep it to half inch until I get to where the fitting goes and then have to use a half to 3/8 reducer. The quick disconnect will thread on to a 3/8 nipple. Not sure about the term they are using there. I guess everything has to have a technical name. I have always run my air lines just like plumbing other than I don't use black or galvanized pipe for water. - Original Message - From: Dale Leavens To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 7:07 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Help with air fittings I am looking or some help and information on air fittings probably from some of you who hang around mechanics shops. I am wanting to set up a bit of a network with a couple of points outside, the driveway and the back yard for example and a couple of points at opposite ends of my basement. There happens to be a sale at boss tools but I am unfamiliar with some of the terminology. There are a couple of 1 to 3 manifolds, one describes an M-style couplings. What are m-style couplings? I believe I would really prefer some sort of device which would permit me to select which part of the network to charge with maybe a ball valve, if these have such they don't describe them as such. Just that it seems unnecessary to charge yards and yards of hose when I only need one. Are you aware of such a device or must I fabricate some sort of panel? There will probably be more questions in due course. Thanks. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] surprising question
- Original Message - From: Tom Hodges To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 8:42 AM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] surprising question Dear Tom: Sue is my first wife, and has been for 39 years last Saturday. I refer to her as my first wife because that is correct, and it keeps her on her toes a bit, knowing that she could be replaced. After all these years, we have grown to be habits to each other, so it is my estimation and hope that she retains that slot for the duration, but telling her that would entail certain risks. Some things are best left unsaid? Yours Truly, Clifford Wilson I am a bit confused about your comment about doing something in November with your first wife. The month of November is just half over and you have a second wife in less than one month? Just curious. From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of clifford Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 9:52 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: [BlindHandyMan] surprising question Dear List members: I was in a chat room on a site for blind folks and their friends, and the subject turned to the events of the day. My first wife and I engaged in some spring cleaning in November, and we can not figure out whether we are behind several months, or ahead several months. In any event, I was commenting about my collection of screw-drivers, which has gotten out of control, and I am telling all of my friends and family that this Christmas need not involve screw-drivers. One of the participants on the site asked me, what would a blind person do with a screw-driver. I explained that I had disassembled a chair today and reassembled the good parts from two chairs to make one good one. This gentleman apparently has not been exposed to handyman activities at all. While I don't perform as many tasks as I did as a younger man, I am astounded at the lack of opportunity some blind folks have. Their parents, teachers, and friends have protected them too much, in my country boy's opinion. Yours Truly, Clifford Wilson [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4610 (20091115) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Help with air fittings
Sorry haven't heard of the m type fitting.As for a valved manifold the only place I have saw that is on the home improvement shows for heating with hot water. Some were electric solenoids some manual for variable balancing of flow. You might call a plumbing or HVAC supply house for a source. I have probably 60 feet combined of piping and one main valve just off the compressor. Doesn't take but a second to charge the lines. I turn this main valve off when the compressor isn't in use as if a hose broke while I was gone or asleep the compressor would run more than I would want. It will cycle about once every 24-36 hours from minor leaks of the quick disconnects so it is easier on the compressor to just not run it even that much.. I don't see a problem with type L copper. Isn't that what is used in air condiatoners with up to 400 psi. Golly most air never goes past 125 normally and many city water tops out at 90. Or is the L the softer rigid. Not the rolled tubing is it? Ron - Original Message - From: Dale Leavens To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 5:27 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Help with air fittings Schedule L copper is bully acceptable, I assure you but that isn't really my question. What is an M-type fitting? Do they make a manifold which includes valves? Thanks. - Original Message - From: Ron Yearns To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 5:49 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Help with air fittings Just a comment or two. All my quick disconnect fittings came with quarter inch pipe threads. Some places may have them in three eights, maybe just my luck. I have been told to use only black pipe on air and gas as galvanized may have pieces that flake off and may clog orifices. Galvanized was originally made for water use. It does tend to clog with calcium over the years quicker than copper can. Anyway for I think we all agree use black iron. Ron - Original Message - From: Bob Kennedy To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 8:58 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Help with air fittings Sorry to be so late on this one. I have my shop set up with half inch black pipe. Galvanized will work as well. What you can do is use a shut off valve in the line you are branching to. this keeps the air pressure high where you want it. I have a few runs, each one branches off of a T valve. I keep it to half inch until I get to where the fitting goes and then have to use a half to 3/8 reducer. The quick disconnect will thread on to a 3/8 nipple. Not sure about the term they are using there. I guess everything has to have a technical name. I have always run my air lines just like plumbing other than I don't use black or galvanized pipe for water. - Original Message - From: Dale Leavens To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 7:07 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Help with air fittings I am looking or some help and information on air fittings probably from some of you who hang around mechanics shops. I am wanting to set up a bit of a network with a couple of points outside, the driveway and the back yard for example and a couple of points at opposite ends of my basement. There happens to be a sale at boss tools but I am unfamiliar with some of the terminology. There are a couple of 1 to 3 manifolds, one describes an M-style couplings. What are m-style couplings? I believe I would really prefer some sort of device which would permit me to select which part of the network to charge with maybe a ball valve, if these have such they don't describe them as such. Just that it seems unnecessary to charge yards and yards of hose when I only need one. Are you aware of such a device or must I fabricate some sort of panel? There will probably be more questions in due course. Thanks. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
