RE: [BlindHandyMan] FYI - Source for NLS cartridge cable
Never heard them called Thumb drives Ive heard them called memory sticks. Sams Club also sells them in a package of about five or six. Cant remember the price. I down load the book from the website onto my computer, then down load that to the memory stick in my USB port, then unplug the memory stick from the computer and plug it into the digital players USB port, on the right side of the player. I never use the cartridge that can be mailed to you, since the books can be downloaded. Those cartridges are for those without a computer. Theyre mailed out just like the cassette tapes were mailed. Then, you have to mailed them back when you are finished with them. You cant use them to re cord anything. From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ron Yearns Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 6:41 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] FYI - Source for NLS cartridge cable Are you talking what we call thumb drives or zip drives? Is this all compatable? Ron - Original Message - From: Tom Hodges To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 5:23 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] FYI - Source for NLS cartridge cable Yes, you can get the cartridges, about as big as the end of your little finger and they fit into the usb port on the side of the player. Staples is where I bought mine, so I know they have them. From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of john schwery Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 6:14 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] FYI - Source for NLS cartridge cable You can probably get the cable at Staples but not the cartridges. earlier, Tom Hodges, wrote: Go to Staples, the cartridges are about 10 dollars for 2 GB. From: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Dave Mitchell Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 2:04 PM To: blind handyman Subject: [BlindHandyMan] FYI - Source for NLS cartridge cable Greetings and thanks to all for help with procedures for downloading NLS books, etc. I had trouble finding the blank cartridges and wrote BARD who supplied the following resource and prices, FYI: Adaptive Technology, a division of Perkins Products of the Perkins School for the Blind, is now selling 1GB digital talking-book cartridges and compatible USB cables, designed to be used with NLS digital talking-book machines. Blank 1GB cartridges are $14.95, while blank 1GB cartridges bundled with a compatible 36-inch USB cable are $17.95. The USB cable may also be purchased separately for $3.95. Customers ordering by phone or online may use credit cards. Perkins also accepts e-mail or fax purchase orders. To place an order, contact Adaptive Technology, a division of Perkins Products, as follows: E-mail: mailto:adaptivetech%40perkins.orgadaptivet...@perkins.org mailto:adaptivetech%40perkins.org mailto:adaptivetech%40perkins.org mailto:adaptivetech%40perkins.org Phone: (978) 462-3817 Fax: (978) 462-3928 To place an order online, go to the Talking Book Accessories section of www.perkinsproducts.org. To order by mail, send your request with a check to: Perkins Products P.O. Box 778 Amesbury, MA 01913 NLS BARD Technical Support e-mail: mailto:NLSDownload%40loc.govnlsdownl...@loc.gov mailto:NLSDownload%40loc.gov mailto:NLSDownload%40loc.gov mailto:NLSDownload%40loc.gov Read the BARD FAQ at: https://nlsbard.loc.gov/NLS/FAQ.htmlhttps://nlsbard.loc.gov/NLS/FAQ.html [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] John Currently in Ocala, Florida Clear, 69°F Wind:ESE-110° at 3mph Warning: Dates in Calendar are closer than they appear. Created by Weather Signature v1.31 . http://www.weathersig.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [BlindHandyMan] Re:NLS Digital Book Player
How much money did they get to develop it and also who do you mean by they?Personally, I think theyre amazing.A 100 percent improvement over the cassette tape players and it didnt cost me anything. Also, yes it does use a flash drive, if you choose, instead of the cartridge with the book pre loaded and mailed to you. That is all I use is a flash drive, that plugged into the USB port on the player. If your player doesnt use a flash drive then you must have a proto type or something else, which would probably explain why you dont like it. From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Trouble Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 7:33 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Re:NLS Digital Book Player I have seen one of those cartridges and they ain't no flash drive that you can get retail. The machine I saw was just like a old style cassette player and just about as big. Be leave me for the money they got to developed it and what they came up with leaves the mind to wonder who actually got the money. personally, there is many over the counter players that can use any USB drive or sd card. That is cheaper and better. i couldn't be leave that it was what they came up with after all that testing! At 06:34 PM 2/4/2010, you wrote: On my player, to read multiple books, all you do is hold the play button down for about four or five seconds and it says bookshelf, then you press fast forward or fast reverse to read the title of all the books on the flash drive or the USB drive, or whatever you want to call it. From: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of john schwery Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 6:17 PM To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Re:NLS Digital Book Player Gil, I would suggest that you put each book in its own directory under the directory containing your books. You can put multiple books on a drive or cartridge and use the book shelf feature to navigate between books. If your player does not have that feature, you will need a later update. You can get all kinds of information at: www.bardtalk.com earlier, Gil Laster, wrote: 3-weeks ago I received the digital NLS player. The only instructions given were those recited by the player itself. With some experimentation here is how I download books: A USB flash memory device is required, also known as a thumb drive. From the BARD website, select the book or magazine that you want, then download it onto your PC (an Internet connection is required). It will be a zipped file. Go to that file on the PC and open it. That extracts several files that then appear. Copy those files to the USB flash memory device, preferably into folder that you reserve for NLS books. Remove the USB flash memory from the PC and plug it into the NLS Player at the side USB port next to the headphone jack. The next time that the player is turned on it will beep as it searches the flash memory for the book. When it finds the book, it will begin to play it. - Gil Laster, Charlotte, NC [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] John Currently in Ocala, Florida Clear, 69°F Wind:ESE-110° at 3mph A bore is a man who, when you ask him how he is, tells you. - Bert Leston Taylor Created by Weather Signature v1.31 http://www.weathersig.comhttp://www.weathersig.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Tim trouble Verizon FIOS support tech Never offend people with style when you can offend them with substance. --Sam Brown Blindeudora list owner. To subscribe or info: http://www.freelists.org/webpage/blindeudora [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [BlindHandyMan] FYI - Source for NLS cartridge cable
Tom, I bought 2 blank cartridges from Independent Living Aids while they still had them in stock. For me, they are much easier to use and I don't have to worry about a thumb drive sticking out of the side of the player. When 2 gig cartridges become available, I may buy those. It is all a matter of personal choice. The drives are cheaper but the cartridges are more convenient. earlier, Tom Hodges, wrote: Never heard them called Thumb drives Ive heard them called memory sticks. Sams Club also sells them in a package of about five or six. Cant remember the price. I down load the book from the website onto my computer, then down load that to the memory stick in my USB port, then unplug the memory stick from the computer and plug it into the digital players USB port, on the right side of the player. I never use the cartridge that can be mailed to you, since the books can be downloaded. Those cartridges are for those without a computer. Theyre mailed out just like the cassette tapes were mailed. Then, you have to mailed them back when you are finished with them. You cant use them to re cord anything. From: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ron Yearns Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 6:41 PM To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] FYI - Source for NLS cartridge cable Are you talking what we call thumb drives or zip drives? Is this all compatable? Ron - Original Message - From: Tom Hodges To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 5:23 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] FYI - Source for NLS cartridge cable Yes, you can get the cartridges, about as big as the end of your little finger and they fit into the usb port on the side of the player. Staples is where I bought mine, so I know they have them. From: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of john schwery Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 6:14 PM To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] FYI - Source for NLS cartridge cable You can probably get the cable at Staples but not the cartridges. earlier, Tom Hodges, wrote: Go to Staples, the cartridges are about 10 dollars for 2 GB. From: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Dave Mitchell Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 2:04 PM To: blind handyman Subject: [BlindHandyMan] FYI - Source for NLS cartridge cable Greetings and thanks to all for help with procedures for downloading NLS books, etc. I had trouble finding the blank cartridges and wrote BARD who supplied the following resource and prices, FYI: Adaptive Technology, a division of Perkins Products of the Perkins School for the Blind, is now selling 1GB digital talking-book cartridges and compatible USB cables, designed to be used with NLS digital talking-book machines. Blank 1GB cartridges are $14.95, while blank 1GB cartridges bundled with a compatible 36-inch USB cable are $17.95. The USB cable may also be purchased separately for $3.95. Customers ordering by phone or online may use credit cards. Perkins also accepts e-mail or fax purchase orders. To place an order, contact Adaptive Technology, a division of Perkins Products, as follows: E-mail: mailto:adaptivetech%40perkins.orgadaptivet...@perkins.org mailto:adaptivetech%40perkins.org mailto:adaptivetech%40perkins.org mailto:adaptivetech%40perkins.org Phone: (978) 462-3817 Fax: (978) 462-3928 To place an order online, go to the Talking Book Accessories section of www.perkinsproducts.org. To order by mail, send your request with a check to: Perkins Products P.O. Box 778 Amesbury, MA 01913 NLS BARD Technical Support e-mail: mailto:NLSDownload%40loc.govnlsdownl...@loc.gov mailto:NLSDownload%40loc.gov mailto:NLSDownload%40loc.gov mailto:NLSDownload%40loc.gov Read the BARD FAQ at: https://nlsbard.loc.gov/NLS/FAQ.htmlhttps:// nlsbard.loc.gov/NLS/FAQ.htmlhttps://nlsbard.loc.gov/NLS/FAQ.html [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] John Currently in Ocala, Florida Clear, 69°F Wind:ESE-110° at 3mph Warning: Dates in Calendar are closer than they appear. Created by Weather Signature v1.31 .
RE: [BlindHandyMan] Re:NLS Digital Book Player
Tom, I agree. The audio quality is very good and the player is well designed. It is simple enough for an elderly person and yet, it has some features for those who want to go beyond the simple. I have the advanced model and like it. earlier, Tom Hodges, wrote: How much money did they get to develop it and also who do you mean by they?Personally, I think theyre amazing.A 100 percent improvement over the cassette tape players and it didnt cost me anything. Also, yes it does use a flash drive, if you choose, instead of the cartridge with the book pre loaded and mailed to you. That is all I use is a flash drive, that plugged into the USB port on the player. If your player doesnt use a flash drive then you must have a proto type or something else, which would probably explain why you dont like it. From: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Trouble Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 7:33 PM To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Re:NLS Digital Book Player I have seen one of those cartridges and they ain't no flash drive that you can get retail. The machine I saw was just like a old style cassette player and just about as big. Be leave me for the money they got to developed it and what they came up with leaves the mind to wonder who actually got the money. personally, there is many over the counter players that can use any USB drive or sd card. That is cheaper and better. i couldn't be leave that it was what they came up with after all that testing! At 06:34 PM 2/4/2010, you wrote: On my player, to read multiple books, all you do is hold the play button down for about four or five seconds and it says bookshelf, then you press fast forward or fast reverse to read the title of all the books on the flash drive or the USB drive, or whatever you want to call it. From: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.commailto :blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of john schwery Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 6:17 PM To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Re:NLS Digital Book Player Gil, I would suggest that you put each book in its own directory under the directory containing your books. You can put multiple books on a drive or cartridge and use the book shelf feature to navigate between books. If your player does not have that feature, you will need a later update. You can get all kinds of information at: www.bardtalk.com earlier, Gil Laster, wrote: 3-weeks ago I received the digital NLS player. The only instructions given were those recited by the player itself. With some experimentation here is how I download books: A USB flash memory device is required, also known as a thumb drive. From the BARD website, select the book or magazine that you want, then download it onto your PC (an Internet connection is required). It will be a zipped file. Go to that file on the PC and open it. That extracts several files that then appear. Copy those files to the USB flash memory device, preferably into folder that you reserve for NLS books. Remove the USB flash memory from the PC and plug it into the NLS Player at the side USB port next to the headphone jack. The next time that the player is turned on it will beep as it searches the flash memory for the book. When it finds the book, it will begin to play it. - Gil Laster, Charlotte, NC [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] John Currently in Ocala, Florida Clear, 69°F Wind:ESE-110° at 3mph A bore is a man who, when you ask him how he is, tells you. - Bert Leston Taylor Created by Weather Signature v1.31 http://www.weathersig.comhttp://www.weathers ig.comhttp://www.weathersig.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Tim trouble Verizon FIOS support tech Never offend people with style when you can offend them with substance. --Sam Brown Blindeudora list owner. To subscribe or info: http://www.freelists.org/webpage/blindeudorahttp://www.freelists.org/webpage/blindeudora [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] John Currently in Ocala, Florida Mostly Cloudy, 68°F Wind:SSE-160° at 7mph To talk goodness is not good. Only to do it is. Created by Weather Signature v1.31 http://www.weathersig.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [BlindHandyMan] Re:NLS Digital Book Player
It is the size. My apple shuffle is about the size of a baby bic lighter, holds more and is just as accessible. For the size its a monster to carry and my shuffle slips into a pocket anywhere you like. The shuffle is even smaller then its cartridges. When a simple device is over designed. Its not for functions, its for cost. At 09:09 AM 2/5/2010, you wrote: How much money did they get to develop it and also who do you mean by they?Personally, I think theyre amazing.A 100 percent improvement over the cassette tape players and it didnt cost me anything. Also, yes it does use a flash drive, if you choose, instead of the cartridge with the book pre loaded and mailed to you. That is all I use is a flash drive, that plugged into the USB port on the player. If your player doesnt use a flash drive then you must have a proto type or something else, which would probably explain why you dont like it. From: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Trouble Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 7:33 PM To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Re:NLS Digital Book Player I have seen one of those cartridges and they ain't no flash drive that you can get retail. The machine I saw was just like a old style cassette player and just about as big. Be leave me for the money they got to developed it and what they came up with leaves the mind to wonder who actually got the money. personally, there is many over the counter players that can use any USB drive or sd card. That is cheaper and better. i couldn't be leave that it was what they came up with after all that testing! At 06:34 PM 2/4/2010, you wrote: On my player, to read multiple books, all you do is hold the play button down for about four or five seconds and it says bookshelf, then you press fast forward or fast reverse to read the title of all the books on the flash drive or the USB drive, or whatever you want to call it. From: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.commailto :blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of john schwery Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 6:17 PM To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Re:NLS Digital Book Player Gil, I would suggest that you put each book in its own directory under the directory containing your books. You can put multiple books on a drive or cartridge and use the book shelf feature to navigate between books. If your player does not have that feature, you will need a later update. You can get all kinds of information at: www.bardtalk.com earlier, Gil Laster, wrote: 3-weeks ago I received the digital NLS player. The only instructions given were those recited by the player itself. With some experimentation here is how I download books: A USB flash memory device is required, also known as a thumb drive. From the BARD website, select the book or magazine that you want, then download it onto your PC (an Internet connection is required). It will be a zipped file. Go to that file on the PC and open it. That extracts several files that then appear. Copy those files to the USB flash memory device, preferably into folder that you reserve for NLS books. Remove the USB flash memory from the PC and plug it into the NLS Player at the side USB port next to the headphone jack. The next time that the player is turned on it will beep as it searches the flash memory for the book. When it finds the book, it will begin to play it. - Gil Laster, Charlotte, NC [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] John Currently in Ocala, Florida Clear, 69°F Wind:ESE-110° at 3mph A bore is a man who, when you ask him how he is, tells you. - Bert Leston Taylor Created by Weather Signature v1.31 http://www.weathersig.comhttp://www.weathers ig.comhttp://www.weathersig.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Tim trouble Verizon FIOS support tech Never offend people with style when you can offend them with substance. --Sam Brown Blindeudora list owner. To subscribe or info: http://www.freelists.org/webpage/blindeudorahttp://www.freelists.org/webpage/blindeudora [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Tim trouble Verizon FIOS support tech Never offend people with style when you can offend them with substance. --Sam Brown Blindeudora list owner. To subscribe or info: http://www.freelists.org/webpage/blindeudora
[BlindHandyMan] Wiring a switch.
Not that I have any immediate plans of rewiring, but this question popped in my head. I think I've seen a comment about this here before. If you are wiring a switch to a light fixture, do you: #1: Run a set of wires from the power source to the switch, and a set of wires from the switch to the light fixture. In this case, connecting both blacks to the switch terminals, and tieing the two whites together? Do you just stuff the white splice in the box with the switch? #2: Run a set of wires from the power source to the light fixture, and a set of wires from the switch to the light fixture. In this case, The white from the power would connect to the white on the light, and the two switch wires would be connected between the black power, and black light wires. It technically wouldn't matter which orientation you connected the switch wires, but is there a standard? I mean, black power, to black switch, then white switch to black fixture. #3: I assume this one is definitely wrong, but similar to #2. Run power directly to the light fixture, then just interrupt the black wire at some point with the switch wires. I believe choice #1 is the correct option, but is choice #2 against code? Choice #3 seems to be the most efficient use of wire, no parallel runs of wire, but would make it a pain in the ass to ever trace an issue since you wouldn't necessarily know where the switch spliced into the power line. Just a thought for the day. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu Tel:(412) 268-9081
RE: [BlindHandyMan] Wiring a switch.
Hi Dan Step One (Refer to Figure 1.) Connect the ground (bare wire) wire to the device box and cut it off approximately one inch past the ground screw. Connect the black wire to one screw and the white wire (hot) to the other screw on the switch. Figure 1. Note: This is the only time that you want to use a white wire as the hot conductor. This is done so you are left with a black and a white wire at the light instead of two whites to hook up to your light. Step Two (Refer to Figure 2.) Usually you will have a 2 conductor #14 http://www.electrical-online.com/Lightsandswitches.htm cable coming from the light box to the switch box. Conductor is a fancy word for wire and #14 is the size of wire you will use throughout 95% of your house. Figure 2. At the light box (octagon box) connect the black wire from the switch to the black wire of the light. Also connect the white wire from the switch to the black conductor coming from the breaker. Found here http://www.electrical-online.com/Lightsandswitches.htm From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Rossi Sent: Saturday, 6 February 2010 6:19 AM To: Blind Handyman List Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Wiring a switch. Not that I have any immediate plans of rewiring, but this question popped in my head. I think I've seen a comment about this here before. If you are wiring a switch to a light fixture, do you: #1: Run a set of wires from the power source to the switch, and a set of wires from the switch to the light fixture. In this case, connecting both blacks to the switch terminals, and tieing the two whites together? Do you just stuff the white splice in the box with the switch? #2: Run a set of wires from the power source to the light fixture, and a set of wires from the switch to the light fixture. In this case, The white from the power would connect to the white on the light, and the two switch wires would be connected between the black power, and black light wires. It technically wouldn't matter which orientation you connected the switch wires, but is there a standard? I mean, black power, to black switch, then white switch to black fixture. #3: I assume this one is definitely wrong, but similar to #2. Run power directly to the light fixture, then just interrupt the black wire at some point with the switch wires. I believe choice #1 is the correct option, but is choice #2 against code? Choice #3 seems to be the most efficient use of wire, no parallel runs of wire, but would make it a pain in the ass to ever trace an issue since you wouldn't necessarily know where the switch spliced into the power line. Just a thought for the day. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu mailto:dr25%40andrew.cmu.edu Tel: (412) 268-9081 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Wiring a switch.
Actually, the third choice is the best one. Unless it is a 3 way switch, all you need to do is break the black wire. What usually happens is the line is run from a power source, be it an outlet or a breaker box or any number of other options. Then the line runs through the switch box and on to the light box. You would then strip the jacket off of both wires inside the box and cut the black line in the middle between the jackets. Finally you would strip back the insulation and form the hook to wrap around the 2 screws of the switch. The white in this example never has to be cut so it tucks either to the side or behind the switch. BTW, after I make my connections to the screws, I will take a couple pieces of electrical tape and cover the side of the switch that the screws are on. I know it isn't required but if anything touches between the hot screw and the side of a metal switch box you can have some fun times. Sure the breaker should flip but if it doesn't... - Original Message - From: Dan Rossi To: Blind Handyman List Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 2:19 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Wiring a switch. Not that I have any immediate plans of rewiring, but this question popped in my head. I think I've seen a comment about this here before. If you are wiring a switch to a light fixture, do you: #1: Run a set of wires from the power source to the switch, and a set of wires from the switch to the light fixture. In this case, connecting both blacks to the switch terminals, and tieing the two whites together? Do you just stuff the white splice in the box with the switch? #2: Run a set of wires from the power source to the light fixture, and a set of wires from the switch to the light fixture. In this case, The white from the power would connect to the white on the light, and the two switch wires would be connected between the black power, and black light wires. It technically wouldn't matter which orientation you connected the switch wires, but is there a standard? I mean, black power, to black switch, then white switch to black fixture. #3: I assume this one is definitely wrong, but similar to #2. Run power directly to the light fixture, then just interrupt the black wire at some point with the switch wires. I believe choice #1 is the correct option, but is choice #2 against code? Choice #3 seems to be the most efficient use of wire, no parallel runs of wire, but would make it a pain in the ass to ever trace an issue since you wouldn't necessarily know where the switch spliced into the power line. Just a thought for the day. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu Tel: (412) 268-9081 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Wiring a switch.
I don't like the sounds of that one at all. I agree 14 gauge is code in this country for lighting, but 12 is the acceptable for most outlet power. Beyond that, you don't want to be mixing colors in the middle of a run. I know this was copied off of a web site, but it sounds like they might be the ones that also published those books that were recalled. - Original Message - From: Ray Boyce To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 2:56 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Wiring a switch. Hi Dan Step One (Refer to Figure 1.) Connect the ground (bare wire) wire to the device box and cut it off approximately one inch past the ground screw. Connect the black wire to one screw and the white wire (hot) to the other screw on the switch. Figure 1. Note: This is the only time that you want to use a white wire as the hot conductor. This is done so you are left with a black and a white wire at the light instead of two whites to hook up to your light. Step Two (Refer to Figure 2.) Usually you will have a 2 conductor #14 http://www.electrical-online.com/Lightsandswitches.htm cable coming from the light box to the switch box. Conductor is a fancy word for wire and #14 is the size of wire you will use throughout 95% of your house. Figure 2. At the light box (octagon box) connect the black wire from the switch to the black wire of the light. Also connect the white wire from the switch to the black conductor coming from the breaker. Found here http://www.electrical-online.com/Lightsandswitches.htm From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Rossi Sent: Saturday, 6 February 2010 6:19 AM To: Blind Handyman List Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Wiring a switch. Not that I have any immediate plans of rewiring, but this question popped in my head. I think I've seen a comment about this here before. If you are wiring a switch to a light fixture, do you: #1: Run a set of wires from the power source to the switch, and a set of wires from the switch to the light fixture. In this case, connecting both blacks to the switch terminals, and tieing the two whites together? Do you just stuff the white splice in the box with the switch? #2: Run a set of wires from the power source to the light fixture, and a set of wires from the switch to the light fixture. In this case, The white from the power would connect to the white on the light, and the two switch wires would be connected between the black power, and black light wires. It technically wouldn't matter which orientation you connected the switch wires, but is there a standard? I mean, black power, to black switch, then white switch to black fixture. #3: I assume this one is definitely wrong, but similar to #2. Run power directly to the light fixture, then just interrupt the black wire at some point with the switch wires. I believe choice #1 is the correct option, but is choice #2 against code? Choice #3 seems to be the most efficient use of wire, no parallel runs of wire, but would make it a pain in the ass to ever trace an issue since you wouldn't necessarily know where the switch spliced into the power line. Just a thought for the day. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu mailto:dr25%40andrew.cmu.edu Tel: (412) 268-9081 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[BlindHandyMan] Sheryl's introduction
Aloha everyone, My name is Sheryl and I am a long time friend of Betsy. She has told me about this list and I finally joined and have been reading the incoming emails. I bought my first house three years ago and have done an extensive remodel, renovation or improvement, call it what you like. My house is a 1920 bungalow style house on post and peer construction which is quite common here in Hawaii. I have 9 foot ceilings, an unusually shaped lot and a one car stone garage. I have a large Mango tree that provides shade for all who visit to sit under. The house needed some tender loving care as the previous owners were going to remodel but decided to obviously sell instead. I picked my contractor who fortunately I picked someone I like working with. I then began doing research on products for the house. The contractor is great at the building but wasn't so great at making recommendations for products so I did extensive research from windows to paint. I'll share information about two things I love. the feather river exterior door from Home Depot I have as my front door is wonderful. The door itself is fiberglass with an oval shaped glass insert . I spent hours and hours looking for a door. The front of my house has a west exposure and the sun would be harsh on a wood door. Many fiberglass doors I looked at were cheap feeling with a hollow space between the outer door and the core. The door matches the time period of my house which is important to me. It is energy star rated so get about a $300.00 tax credit. My contractor couldn't even tell if this is wood or not that is how wood like it looks and feels. The door is worth all the time it took to find just the right one. The second product I want to tell you about is cool wall exterior paint which cost about $10.00 more per gallon than other paints. Keeping the exterior walls cooler keeps the interior of the house cooler and IT WORKS. When you touch the exterior of the house it doesn't even feel Luke warm it has a much cooler surface than paint otherwise would. For tropical and warm climates like Hawaii it seems perfect. The research showed that it helps with keeping the house cooler by keeping out radiant heat. One of the reflective components in the paint is recycled glass. The paint is rich and thick and smells different than other paints. Of course you can't block all the heat but cutting down helps. My bedroom is also on the west side of the house which was hot. I can now sleep comfortably and removed the window air conditioner. The cool wall paint new windows and my solar attic fan all help in the cooler house process. I still can enjoy the fresh air while feeling comfortable. I next will plant grass and have found a grass that takes little care. Will tell you more about that after I know more. Thanks for all the great posts and information. Aloha have a great day. Sheryl
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Sheryl's introduction
Aloha Sheryl, So glad you have finally joined us. I just know you'll enjoy your time here. Your house is great, and I mentioned your cool-wall paint on this list and told them the results of my scientific experiment that I conducted by placing my hand on the wall and how amazed I was at the coolness of it. Good going, Betsy At 10:54 AM 2/5/2010, you wrote: Aloha everyone, My name is Sheryl and I am a long time friend of Betsy. She has told me about this list and I finally joined and have been reading the incoming emails. I bought my first house three years ago and have done an extensive remodel, renovation or improvement, call it what you like. My house is a 1920 bungalow style house on post and peer construction which is quite common here in Hawaii. I have 9 foot ceilings, an unusually shaped lot and a one car stone garage. I have a large Mango tree that provides shade for all who visit to sit under. The house needed some tender loving care as the previous owners were going to remodel but decided to obviously sell instead. I picked my contractor who fortunately I picked someone I like working with. I then began doing research on products for the house. The contractor is great at the building but wasn't so great at making recommendations for products so I did extensive research from windows to paint. I'll share information about two things I love. the feather river exterior door from Home Depot I have as my front door is wonderful. The door itself is fiberglass with an oval shaped glass insert . I spent hours and hours looking for a door. The front of my house has a west exposure and the sun would be harsh on a wood door. Many fiberglass doors I looked at were cheap feeling with a hollow space between the outer door and the core. The door matches the time period of my house which is important to me. It is energy star rated so get about a $300.00 tax credit. My contractor couldn't even tell if this is wood or not that is how wood like it looks and feels. The door is worth all the time it took to find just the right one. The second product I want to tell you about is cool wall exterior paint which cost about $10.00 more per gallon than other paints. Keeping the exterior walls cooler keeps the interior of the house cooler and IT WORKS. When you touch the exterior of the house it doesn't even feel Luke warm it has a much cooler surface than paint otherwise would. For tropical and warm climates like Hawaii it seems perfect. The research showed that it helps with keeping the house cooler by keeping out radiant heat. One of the reflective components in the paint is recycled glass. The paint is rich and thick and smells different than other paints. Of course you can't block all the heat but cutting down helps. My bedroom is also on the west side of the house which was hot. I can now sleep comfortably and removed the window air conditioner. The cool wall paint new windows and my solar attic fan all help in the cooler house process. I still can enjoy the fresh air while feeling comfortable. I next will plant grass and have found a grass that takes little care. Will tell you more about that after I know more. Thanks for all the great posts and information. Aloha have a great day. Sheryl [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [BlindHandyMan] Wiring a switch.
Dan, The standard is pretty much your option 2. You run the power to the light fixture (octagon box) as well as the switch leg. If you're using standard Romex for the switch leg, connect the white to the black power source and the black (switched leg) to the fixture so that the fixture gets energized with a black wire connected to a black wire. Simply short the neutral from the source to the neutral of the fixture with a wire nut. Darrin Darrin Porter Senior Technical Engineer United OceanServices, L.L.C. 601 South Harbour Island Boulevard, Suite 230 Tampa, Florida 33602 (813) 209-4247 (office) (813) 744-0011 (cellular phone) (813) 242-4849 (fax) darrin.por...@united-mar.commmailto:darrin.por...@united-mar.comm From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Rossi Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 2:19 PM To: Blind Handyman List Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Wiring a switch. Not that I have any immediate plans of rewiring, but this question popped in my head. I think I've seen a comment about this here before. If you are wiring a switch to a light fixture, do you: #1: Run a set of wires from the power source to the switch, and a set of wires from the switch to the light fixture. In this case, connecting both blacks to the switch terminals, and tieing the two whites together? Do you just stuff the white splice in the box with the switch? #2: Run a set of wires from the power source to the light fixture, and a set of wires from the switch to the light fixture. In this case, The white from the power would connect to the white on the light, and the two switch wires would be connected between the black power, and black light wires. It technically wouldn't matter which orientation you connected the switch wires, but is there a standard? I mean, black power, to black switch, then white switch to black fixture. #3: I assume this one is definitely wrong, but similar to #2. Run power directly to the light fixture, then just interrupt the black wire at some point with the switch wires. I believe choice #1 is the correct option, but is choice #2 against code? Choice #3 seems to be the most efficient use of wire, no parallel runs of wire, but would make it a pain in the ass to ever trace an issue since you wouldn't necessarily know where the switch spliced into the power line. Just a thought for the day. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edumailto:dr25%40andrew.cmu.edu Tel: (412) 268-9081 Attention: This email and any accompanying attachments constitute confidential and/or legally privileged information. If you have received this email communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the message and any attachments from your system. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [BlindHandyMan] Sheryl's introduction
Aloha Sheryl Welcome aboard, I would like to talk to Betsy and You in the blind handy man Room on VIP Conduit so please join . I have included the link below. http://www.vipconduit.com/policy1.shtml From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Sheryl Nelson Sent: Saturday, 6 February 2010 7:54 AM To: Blind Handyman List Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Sheryl's introduction Aloha everyone, My name is Sheryl and I am a long time friend of Betsy. She has told me about this list and I finally joined and have been reading the incoming emails. I bought my first house three years ago and have done an extensive remodel, renovation or improvement, call it what you like. My house is a 1920 bungalow style house on post and peer construction which is quite common here in Hawaii. I have 9 foot ceilings, an unusually shaped lot and a one car stone garage. I have a large Mango tree that provides shade for all who visit to sit under. The house needed some tender loving care as the previous owners were going to remodel but decided to obviously sell instead. I picked my contractor who fortunately I picked someone I like working with. I then began doing research on products for the house. The contractor is great at the building but wasn't so great at making recommendations for products so I did extensive research from windows to paint. I'll share information about two things I love. the feather river exterior door from Home Depot I have as my front door is wonderful. The door itself is fiberglass with an oval shaped glass insert . I spent hours and hours looking for a door. The front of my house has a west exposure and the sun would be harsh on a wood door. Many fiberglass doors I looked at were cheap feeling with a hollow space between the outer door and the core. The door matches the time period of my house which is important to me. It is energy star rated so get about a $300.00 tax credit. My contractor couldn't even tell if this is wood or not that is how wood like it looks and feels. The door is worth all the time it took to find just the right one. The second product I want to tell you about is cool wall exterior paint which cost about $10.00 more per gallon than other paints. Keeping the exterior walls cooler keeps the interior of the house cooler and IT WORKS. When you touch the exterior of the house it doesn't even feel Luke warm it has a much cooler surface than paint otherwise would. For tropical and warm climates like Hawaii it seems perfect. The research showed that it helps with keeping the house cooler by keeping out radiant heat. One of the reflective components in the paint is recycled glass. The paint is rich and thick and smells different than other paints. Of course you can't block all the heat but cutting down helps. My bedroom is also on the west side of the house which was hot. I can now sleep comfortably and removed the window air conditioner. The cool wall paint new windows and my solar attic fan all help in the cooler house process. I still can enjoy the fresh air while feeling comfortable. I next will plant grass and have found a grass that takes little care. Will tell you more about that after I know more. Thanks for all the great posts and information. Aloha have a great day. Sheryl [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Wiring a switch.
Choice 1 and 2 are both ok. Mostly choice. Many electricians like to run the power in the ceiling and drop off for the switch. Others prefer to run power horizontally through the studs catching outlets and switches, then running a line up to the light. Yes the white wire in number one is spliced, wire nutted and put into thee switch box. I am not sure what you mean in number three choice. You can break into the power line anywhere. Providing a junction box is installed and left accessible, with a proper cover. All three are then code for safety. Of you are using a extra junction box and possible cable clamps and cover. Extra money. In rewiring old work it is what works. In new work a little planning can make for less hole drilling and wire saving. When using the white wire for a switch leg as when the power is ran to the light first the code way is to turn the white wire into a colored wire. This can be done by painting both ends of the wire or more commonly using black, blue or red tape around it for the length of the exposed white insulation. Ron - Original Message - From: Dan Rossi To: Blind Handyman List Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 1:19 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Wiring a switch. Not that I have any immediate plans of rewiring, but this question popped in my head. I think I've seen a comment about this here before. If you are wiring a switch to a light fixture, do you: #1: Run a set of wires from the power source to the switch, and a set of wires from the switch to the light fixture. In this case, connecting both blacks to the switch terminals, and tieing the two whites together? Do you just stuff the white splice in the box with the switch? #2: Run a set of wires from the power source to the light fixture, and a set of wires from the switch to the light fixture. In this case, The white from the power would connect to the white on the light, and the two switch wires would be connected between the black power, and black light wires. It technically wouldn't matter which orientation you connected the switch wires, but is there a standard? I mean, black power, to black switch, then white switch to black fixture. #3: I assume this one is definitely wrong, but similar to #2. Run power directly to the light fixture, then just interrupt the black wire at some point with the switch wires. I believe choice #1 is the correct option, but is choice #2 against code? Choice #3 seems to be the most efficient use of wire, no parallel runs of wire, but would make it a pain in the ass to ever trace an issue since you wouldn't necessarily know where the switch spliced into the power line. Just a thought for the day. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu Tel: (412) 268-9081 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [BlindHandyMan] Sheryl's introduction
Aloha Ray, I appreciate your offer, but I don't have a microphone. I just haven't gotten around to it. Thanks, Betsy At 11:30 AM 2/5/2010, you wrote: Aloha Sheryl Welcome aboard, I would like to talk to Betsy and You in the blind handy man Room on VIP Conduit so please join . I have included the link below. http://www.vipconduit.com/policy1.shtmlhttp://www.vipconduit.com/policy1.shtml From: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Sheryl Nelson Sent: Saturday, 6 February 2010 7:54 AM To: Blind Handyman List Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Sheryl's introduction Aloha everyone, My name is Sheryl and I am a long time friend of Betsy. She has told me about this list and I finally joined and have been reading the incoming emails. I bought my first house three years ago and have done an extensive remodel, renovation or improvement, call it what you like. My house is a 1920 bungalow style house on post and peer construction which is quite common here in Hawaii. I have 9 foot ceilings, an unusually shaped lot and a one car stone garage. I have a large Mango tree that provides shade for all who visit to sit under. The house needed some tender loving care as the previous owners were going to remodel but decided to obviously sell instead. I picked my contractor who fortunately I picked someone I like working with. I then began doing research on products for the house. The contractor is great at the building but wasn't so great at making recommendations for products so I did extensive research from windows to paint. I'll share information about two things I love. the feather river exterior door from Home Depot I have as my front door is wonderful. The door itself is fiberglass with an oval shaped glass insert . I spent hours and hours looking for a door. The front of my house has a west exposure and the sun would be harsh on a wood door. Many fiberglass doors I looked at were cheap feeling with a hollow space between the outer door and the core. The door matches the time period of my house which is important to me. It is energy star rated so get about a $300.00 tax credit. My contractor couldn't even tell if this is wood or not that is how wood like it looks and feels. The door is worth all the time it took to find just the right one. The second product I want to tell you about is cool wall exterior paint which cost about $10.00 more per gallon than other paints. Keeping the exterior walls cooler keeps the interior of the house cooler and IT WORKS. When you touch the exterior of the house it doesn't even feel Luke warm it has a much cooler surface than paint otherwise would. For tropical and warm climates like Hawaii it seems perfect. The research showed that it helps with keeping the house cooler by keeping out radiant heat. One of the reflective components in the paint is recycled glass. The paint is rich and thick and smells different than other paints. Of course you can't block all the heat but cutting down helps. My bedroom is also on the west side of the house which was hot. I can now sleep comfortably and removed the window air conditioner. The cool wall paint new windows and my solar attic fan all help in the cooler house process. I still can enjoy the fresh air while feeling comfortable. I next will plant grass and have found a grass that takes little care. Will tell you more about that after I know more. Thanks for all the great posts and information. Aloha have a great day. Sheryl [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Wiring a switch.
The easiest way to explain wire a switch. Think of a solid black wire running from the power or line through a switch box to the light. and the same of the white. Now cut the black wire in half and put one half of the black wirer on the screw of a switch and the other half on the other screw. Leaving the white wire along. - Original Message - From: Ron Yearns To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 16:38 Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Wiring a switch. Choice 1 and 2 are both ok. Mostly choice. Many electricians like to run the power in the ceiling and drop off for the switch. Others prefer to run power horizontally through the studs catching outlets and switches, then running a line up to the light. Yes the white wire in number one is spliced, wire nutted and put into thee switch box. I am not sure what you mean in number three choice. You can break into the power line anywhere. Providing a junction box is installed and left accessible, with a proper cover. All three are then code for safety. Of you are using a extra junction box and possible cable clamps and cover. Extra money. In rewiring old work it is what works. In new work a little planning can make for less hole drilling and wire saving. When using the white wire for a switch leg as when the power is ran to the light first the code way is to turn the white wire into a colored wire. This can be done by painting both ends of the wire or more commonly using black, blue or red tape around it for the length of the exposed white insulation. Ron - Original Message - From: Dan Rossi To: Blind Handyman List Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 1:19 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Wiring a switch. Not that I have any immediate plans of rewiring, but this question popped in my head. I think I've seen a comment about this here before. If you are wiring a switch to a light fixture, do you: #1: Run a set of wires from the power source to the switch, and a set of wires from the switch to the light fixture. In this case, connecting both blacks to the switch terminals, and tieing the two whites together? Do you just stuff the white splice in the box with the switch? #2: Run a set of wires from the power source to the light fixture, and a set of wires from the switch to the light fixture. In this case, The white from the power would connect to the white on the light, and the two switch wires would be connected between the black power, and black light wires. It technically wouldn't matter which orientation you connected the switch wires, but is there a standard? I mean, black power, to black switch, then white switch to black fixture. #3: I assume this one is definitely wrong, but similar to #2. Run power directly to the light fixture, then just interrupt the black wire at some point with the switch wires. I believe choice #1 is the correct option, but is choice #2 against code? Choice #3 seems to be the most efficient use of wire, no parallel runs of wire, but would make it a pain in the ass to ever trace an issue since you wouldn't necessarily know where the switch spliced into the power line. Just a thought for the day. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu Tel: (412) 268-9081 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Sheryl's introduction
hello sheryl and welcom from jim in minnesota. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [BlindHandyMan] Re:NLS Digital Book Player
I believe the reason it is larger is so that elderly people and people with physical disabilities can use it. Those smaller players have small buttons which are not as easy to use. If you fashion a carrying strap, the player is easier to carry. earlier, Trouble, wrote: It is the size. My apple shuffle is about the size of a baby bic lighter, holds more and is just as accessible. For the size its a monster to carry and my shuffle slips into a pocket anywhere you like. The shuffle is even smaller then its cartridges. When a simple device is over designed. Its not for functions, its for cost. At 09:09 AM 2/5/2010, you wrote: How much money did they get to develop it and also who do you mean by they?Personally, I think theyre amazing.A 100 percent improvement over the cassette tape players and it didnt cost me anything. Also, yes it does use a flash drive, if you choose, instead of the cartridge with the book pre loaded and mailed to you. That is all I use is a flash drive, that plugged into the USB port on the player. If your player doesnt use a flash drive then you must have a proto type or something else, which would probably explain why you dont like it. From: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Trouble Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 7:33 PM To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.commailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Re:NLS Digital Book Player I have seen one of those cartridges and they ain't no flash drive that you can get retail. The machine I saw was just like a old style cassette player and just about as big. Be leave me for the money they got to developed it and what they came up with leaves the mind to wonder who actually got the money. personally, there is many over the counter players that can use any USB drive or sd card. That is cheaper and better. i couldn't be leave that it was what they came up with after all that testing! At 06:34 PM 2/4/2010, you wrote: On my player, to read multiple books, all you do is hold the play button down for about four or five seconds and it says bookshelf, then you press fast forward or fast reverse to read the title of all the books on the flash drive or the USB drive, or whatever you want to call it. From: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.commailto :blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.commailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of john schwery Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 6:17 PM To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Re:NLS Digital Book Player Gil, I would suggest that you put each book in its own directory under the directory containing your books. You can put multiple books on a drive or cartridge and use the book shelf feature to navigate between books. If your player does not have that feature, you will need a later update. You can get all kinds of information at: www.bardtalk.com earlier, Gil Laster, wrote: 3-weeks ago I received the digital NLS player. The only instructions given were those recited by the player itself. With some experimentation here is how I download books: A USB flash memory device is required, also known as a thumb drive. From the BARD website, select the book or magazine that you want, then download it onto your PC (an Internet connection is required). It will be a zipped file. Go to that file on the PC and open it. That extracts several files that then appear. Copy those files to the USB flash memory device, preferably into folder that you reserve for NLS books. Remove the USB flash memory from the PC and plug it into the NLS Player at the side USB port next to the headphone jack. The next time that the player is turned on it will beep as it searches the flash memory for the book. When it finds the book, it will begin to play it. - Gil Laster, Charlotte, NC [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] John Currently in Ocala, Florida Clear, 69°F Wind:ESE-110° at 3mph A bore is a man who, when you ask him how he is, tells you. - Bert Leston Taylor Created by Weather Signature v1.31 http://www.weathersig.comhttp://www.weath ersig.comhttp://www.weathers ig.comhttp://www.weathersig.comhttp://www.weathersig.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Tim trouble Verizon FIOS support tech Never offend people with style when you can offend
RE: [BlindHandyMan] FYI - Source for NLS cartridge cable
John, how do you download to cartridges on a computer? By cartridges, do you mean the thing that plugs into the end of the player, by the handle? It is about the size of a thick credit card with a hole in the end? Im still wondering if were talking avout the same thing. Tom From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of john schwery Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 9:04 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] FYI - Source for NLS cartridge cable Tom, I bought 2 blank cartridges from Independent Living Aids while they still had them in stock. For me, they are much easier to use and I don't have to worry about a thumb drive sticking out of the side of the player. When 2 gig cartridges become available, I may buy those. It is all a matter of personal choice. The drives are cheaper but the cartridges are more convenient. earlier, Tom Hodges, wrote: Never heard them called Thumb drives Ive heard them called memory sticks. Sams Club also sells them in a package of about five or six. Cant remember the price. I down load the book from the website onto my computer, then down load that to the memory stick in my USB port, then unplug the memory stick from the computer and plug it into the digital players USB port, on the right side of the player. I never use the cartridge that can be mailed to you, since the books can be downloaded. Those cartridges are for those without a computer. Theyre mailed out just like the cassette tapes were mailed. Then, you have to mailed them back when you are finished with them. You cant use them to re cord anything. From: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Ron Yearns Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 6:41 PM To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] FYI - Source for NLS cartridge cable Are you talking what we call thumb drives or zip drives? Is this all compatable? Ron - Original Message - From: Tom Hodges To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 5:23 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] FYI - Source for NLS cartridge cable Yes, you can get the cartridges, about as big as the end of your little finger and they fit into the usb port on the side of the player. Staples is where I bought mine, so I know they have them. From: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandy...@yahoogroups.c om mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of john schwery Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 6:14 PM To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] FYI - Source for NLS cartridge cable You can probably get the cable at Staples but not the cartridges. earlier, Tom Hodges, wrote: Go to Staples, the cartridges are about 10 dollars for 2 GB. From: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Dave Mitchell Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 2:04 PM To: blind handyman Subject: [BlindHandyMan] FYI - Source for NLS cartridge cable Greetings and thanks to all for help with procedures for downloading NLS books, etc. I had trouble finding the blank cartridges and wrote BARD who supplied the following resource and prices, FYI: Adaptive Technology, a division of Perkins Products of the Perkins School for the Blind, is now selling 1GB digital talking-book cartridges and compatible USB cables, designed to be used with NLS digital talking-book machines. Blank 1GB cartridges are $14.95, while blank 1GB cartridges bundled with a compatible 36-inch USB cable are $17.95. The USB cable may also be purchased separately for $3.95. Customers ordering by phone or online may use credit cards. Perkins also accepts e-mail or fax purchase orders. To place an order, contact Adaptive Technology, a division of Perkins Products, as follows: E-mail: mailto:adaptivetech%40perkins.orgadaptivet...@perkins.org mailto:adaptivetech%40perkins.org mailto:adaptivetech%40perkins.org
RE: [BlindHandyMan] Wiring a switch.
14 gauge wire is for a 15 amp circuit and 12 gauge wire is for 20 amp circuits. It doesn't matter if it is for lighting or for a outlets, as long as you stick the amp rating. From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bob Kennedy Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 3:19 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Wiring a switch. I don't like the sounds of that one at all. I agree 14 gauge is code in this country for lighting, but 12 is the acceptable for most outlet power. Beyond that, you don't want to be mixing colors in the middle of a run. I know this was copied off of a web site, but it sounds like they might be the ones that also published those books that were recalled. - Original Message - From: Ray Boyce To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 2:56 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Wiring a switch. Hi Dan Step One (Refer to Figure 1.) Connect the ground (bare wire) wire to the device box and cut it off approximately one inch past the ground screw. Connect the black wire to one screw and the white wire (hot) to the other screw on the switch. Figure 1. Note: This is the only time that you want to use a white wire as the hot conductor. This is done so you are left with a black and a white wire at the light instead of two whites to hook up to your light. Step Two (Refer to Figure 2.) Usually you will have a 2 conductor #14 http://www.electrical-online.com/Lightsandswitches.htm cable coming from the light box to the switch box. Conductor is a fancy word for wire and #14 is the size of wire you will use throughout 95% of your house. Figure 2. At the light box (octagon box) connect the black wire from the switch to the black wire of the light. Also connect the white wire from the switch to the black conductor coming from the breaker. Found here http://www.electrical-online.com/Lightsandswitches.htm From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Dan Rossi Sent: Saturday, 6 February 2010 6:19 AM To: Blind Handyman List Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Wiring a switch. Not that I have any immediate plans of rewiring, but this question popped in my head. I think I've seen a comment about this here before. If you are wiring a switch to a light fixture, do you: #1: Run a set of wires from the power source to the switch, and a set of wires from the switch to the light fixture. In this case, connecting both blacks to the switch terminals, and tieing the two whites together? Do you just stuff the white splice in the box with the switch? #2: Run a set of wires from the power source to the light fixture, and a set of wires from the switch to the light fixture. In this case, The white from the power would connect to the white on the light, and the two switch wires would be connected between the black power, and black light wires. It technically wouldn't matter which orientation you connected the switch wires, but is there a standard? I mean, black power, to black switch, then white switch to black fixture. #3: I assume this one is definitely wrong, but similar to #2. Run power directly to the light fixture, then just interrupt the black wire at some point with the switch wires. I believe choice #1 is the correct option, but is choice #2 against code? Choice #3 seems to be the most efficient use of wire, no parallel runs of wire, but would make it a pain in the ass to ever trace an issue since you wouldn't necessarily know where the switch spliced into the power line. Just a thought for the day. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu mailto:dr25%40andrew.cmu.edu mailto:dr25%40andrew.cmu.edu Tel: (412) 268-9081 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [BlindHandyMan] FYI - Source for NLS cartridge cable
Tom, yep, that's a cartridge. Just treat them like a thumb drive. You will need a cable to go with them. The cable is a standard cable so, unlike the cartridges, the cable can be purchased from an electronics outlet. earlier, Tom Hodges, wrote: John, how do you download to cartridges on a computer? By cartridges, do you mean the thing that plugs into the end of the player, by the handle? It is about the size of a thick credit card with a hole in the end? Im still wondering if were talking avout the same thing. Tom From: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of john schwery Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 9:04 AM To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] FYI - Source for NLS cartridge cable Tom, I bought 2 blank cartridges from Independent Living Aids while they still had them in stock. For me, they are much easier to use and I don't have to worry about a thumb drive sticking out of the side of the player. When 2 gig cartridges become available, I may buy those. It is all a matter of personal choice. The drives are cheaper but the cartridges are more convenient. earlier, Tom Hodges, wrote: Never heard them called Thumb drives Ive heard them called memory sticks. Sams Club also sells them in a package of about five or six. Cant remember the price. I down load the book from the website onto my computer, then down load that to the memory stick in my USB port, then unplug the memory stick from the computer and plug it into the digital players USB port, on the right side of the player. I never use the cartridge that can be mailed to you, since the books can be downloaded. Those cartridges are for those without a computer. Theyre mailed out just like the cassette tapes were mailed. Then, you have to mailed them back when you are finished with them. You cant use them to re cord anything. From: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.commailto :blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Ron Yearns Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 6:41 PM To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] FYI - Source for NLS cartridge cable Are you talking what we call thumb drives or zip drives? Is this all compatable? Ron - Original Message - From: Tom Hodges To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 5:23 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] FYI - Source for NLS cartridge cable Yes, you can get the cartridges, about as big as the end of your little finger and they fit into the usb port on the side of the player. Staples is where I bought mine, so I know they have them. From: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.cblindhandy...@yahoogroups.c om mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of john schwery Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 6:14 PM To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] FYI - Source for NLS cartridge cable You can probably get the cable at Staples but not the cartridges. earlier, Tom Hodges, wrote: Go to Staples, the cartridges are about 10 dollars for 2 GB. From: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblind handy...@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Dave Mitchell Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 2:04 PM To: blind handyman Subject: [BlindHandyMan] FYI - Source for NLS cartridge cable Greetings and thanks to all for help with procedures for downloading NLS books, etc. I had trouble finding the blank cartridges and wrote BARD who supplied the following resource and prices, FYI: Adaptive Technology, a division of Perkins Products of the Perkins School for the Blind, is now selling 1GB digital talking-book cartridges and compatible USB cables, designed to be used with NLS digital talking-book machines. Blank 1GB
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Wiring a switch.
Choice two is the more common. You bring power to the junction box in the ceiling and break the black which runs down to the switch then comes back white. If it is double switched then it comes back white but the reds are joined in the junction box to form an alternate path. It is not against code most places to bring power to the switch box then pass it along to the junction box however there are disadvantages. With power at the junction box you can usually more easily take a branch to another point independent of the switch or chain another switched fixture. There are those who like it the other way claiming they have more confidence that the junction box will be safe when the switch is off, I don't share that view myself. If I was Han Solo I'd probably pet my wookie - Original Message - From: Dan Rossi To: Blind Handyman List Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 2:19 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Wiring a switch. Not that I have any immediate plans of rewiring, but this question popped in my head. I think I've seen a comment about this here before. If you are wiring a switch to a light fixture, do you: #1: Run a set of wires from the power source to the switch, and a set of wires from the switch to the light fixture. In this case, connecting both blacks to the switch terminals, and tieing the two whites together? Do you just stuff the white splice in the box with the switch? #2: Run a set of wires from the power source to the light fixture, and a set of wires from the switch to the light fixture. In this case, The white from the power would connect to the white on the light, and the two switch wires would be connected between the black power, and black light wires. It technically wouldn't matter which orientation you connected the switch wires, but is there a standard? I mean, black power, to black switch, then white switch to black fixture. #3: I assume this one is definitely wrong, but similar to #2. Run power directly to the light fixture, then just interrupt the black wire at some point with the switch wires. I believe choice #1 is the correct option, but is choice #2 against code? Choice #3 seems to be the most efficient use of wire, no parallel runs of wire, but would make it a pain in the ass to ever trace an issue since you wouldn't necessarily know where the switch spliced into the power line. Just a thought for the day. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu Tel: (412) 268-9081 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [BlindHandyMan] FYI - Source for NLS cartridge cable
The cartridge I saw only fit the players. If there are cables for it they are proprietary to the unit. At 06:00 PM 2/5/2010, you wrote: Tom, yep, that's a cartridge. Just treat them like a thumb drive. You will need a cable to go with them. The cable is a standard cable so, unlike the cartridges, the cable can be purchased from an electronics outlet. earlier, Tom Hodges, wrote: John, how do you download to cartridges on a computer? By cartridges, do you mean the thing that plugs into the end of the player, by the handle? It is about the size of a thick credit card with a hole in the end? Im still wondering if were talking avout the same thing. Tom From: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of john schwery Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 9:04 AM To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.commailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] FYI - Source for NLS cartridge cable Tom, I bought 2 blank cartridges from Independent Living Aids while they still had them in stock. For me, they are much easier to use and I don't have to worry about a thumb drive sticking out of the side of the player. When 2 gig cartridges become available, I may buy those. It is all a matter of personal choice. The drives are cheaper but the cartridges are more convenient. earlier, Tom Hodges, wrote: Never heard them called Thumb drives Ive heard them called memory sticks. Sams Club also sells them in a package of about five or six. Cant remember the price. I down load the book from the website onto my computer, then down load that to the memory stick in my USB port, then unplug the memory stick from the computer and plug it into the digital players USB port, on the right side of the player. I never use the cartridge that can be mailed to you, since the books can be downloaded. Those cartridges are for those without a computer. Theyre mailed out just like the cassette tapes were mailed. Then, you have to mailed them back when you are finished with them. You cant use them to re cord anything. From: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.commailto :blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.commailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Ron Yearns Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 6:41 PM To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] FYI - Source for NLS cartridge cable Are you talking what we call thumb drives or zip drives? Is this all compatable? Ron - Original Message - From: Tom Hodges To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 5:23 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] FYI - Source for NLS cartridge cable Yes, you can get the cartridges, about as big as the end of your little finger and they fit into the usb port on the side of the player. Staples is where I bought mine, so I know they have them. From: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.cblindhandy...@yahoogroups.c om mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of john schwery Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 6:14 PM To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] FYI - Source for NLS cartridge cable You can probably get the cable at Staples but not the cartridges. earlier, Tom Hodges, wrote: Go to Staples, the cartridges are about 10 dollars for 2 GB. From: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblind mailto:handyman%40yahoogroups.comhandy...@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Dave Mitchell Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 2:04 PM To: blind handyman Subject: [BlindHandyMan] FYI - Source for NLS cartridge cable Greetings and thanks to all for help with procedures for
Re: [BlindHandyMan] FYI - Source for NLS cartridge cable
The cable that fits the cartridge is not proprietary. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
