Re: [BlindHandyMan] majestic ice melt

[Blaine Deutscher]

Can you buy this stuff at Canadian tire?

Blaine
- Original Message - 
From: Bob Kennedy
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 10:38 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] majestic ice melt



Sounds like it might be good with margaritas.
- Original Message - 
From: Andrew J. LaPointe
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 8:49 PM
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] majestic ice melt

Hi, my daughter's boy friend works for a landscaper and plows during the
winter. His company has this stuff called magic salt. It has a whiskey
product in with the salt which doesn't harm the walkways or corrode
anything. I will keep the ice and snow soft up to 25 degrees below. It
really works. Now, the Home Depot version is called Blizzard wizard... Andy

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 8:23 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] majestic ice melt

Yes, that is the stuff, I think it is dyed green. It works wonders
- Original Message -
From: "Spiro" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Great idea.

Is it a blue-ish color?
I pay $18 and get it shipped to me as I haven't access often.
That's the stuff I took with me in a brown bag in my pcket three times to
work this week and dumped handfuls where needed so I wouldn't slide twice.
Great stuff.

On Fri, 19 Feb 2010, Lenny McHugh wrote:

> The ice melt that I use is called majestic. It also is safe for pets,
> kids,
> lawns and carpets. I purchased mine at Lowes for $15 for a 50 pound bag.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Spiro" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 4:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Great idea.
>
>
> insurance companies are slow to cover a residence with a flat roof for
> theis reason.
> Professional ice melt is quoted down to -12 but I think it's more
> accurately trusted to 0.
> I tossed some onto my auning and there are no icycles after the first
> day. Don't know what ths aalts will do to your structures, but the Ice
> Melt (mcmater Carr supply) is safe for lawns, pets, and sidewalks.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, 18 Feb 2010, Dan Rossi wrote:
>
>> Well, this was all good fun anyway. Yes, your run of the mill hand held
>> torch will do very little against any real mass of ice, as many people in
>> the area are finding out. My neighbors and I have kicked around a number
>> of concepts for bleeding off the water in the ice dams along our
>> roof-lines. Anywhere from hooking up a hose to the hot water tap and
>> strapping the hose to a long pipe. To dumping calcium chloride in a few
>> key spots.
>>
>> I personally know three people who have already had major ceiling damage
>> caused by ice dams on their roofs.
>>
>> There are some pretty serious icicles hanging off the buildings around
>> campus. Apparently, one building has icicles that grew curved due to
>> some
>> strong wind funneling in the area. My buddy says they are about 8 to 10
>> feet long and curved so they look like a long row of pretty serious
>> teeth.
>>
>> Oh well. Guess I'll just go out with a shovel over the weekend and hack
>> a
>> path through the worst parts of the sidewalks.
>>
>> --
>> Blue skies.
>> Dan Rossi
>> Carnegie Mellon University.
>> E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu
>> Tel: (412) 268-9081
>>
>
>
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Fwd: Speaking of icicles!!

[Bob Kennedy]

They suggest R30 in the attic here too but that's to keep the air conditioning 
in the house during the summer.  Thank God there  is not enough snow to worry 
about any longer.  Those years in Buffalo still bring bad memories now and 
then...
- Original Message - 
From: Dave Andrus 
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 10:24 PM
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Fwd: Speaking of icicles!!


  
Hi everyone, 

I grew up in northern Wisconsin. We were always told that if you have
icicles it means you do not have enough insulation in the attic. When the
sun melts snow from the top the water runs off the top. If you have ice dams
and icicles this means melt from the underside. This can only happen from
heat coming up from the rooms below. 

Certainly there are a few exceptions to this situation, but I suggest you
find out how much insulation you have. We now live in st. Louis. Both here
and up north they suggest an R30 or above for the attic. 

Dave A.

Working together, sharing the light of salvation seen through the cross of
Jesus

Rev. Dave Andrus, Director
Lutheran Blind Mission
888 215 2455
HTTP://WWW.BLINDMISSION.ORG 

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of john schwery
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 4:14 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Fwd: Speaking of icicles!!

Dan, here is an article from a Burgh paper. My wife is from the Burgh and
gets articles like this.

text of forwarded message follows:

>Don't flip, homeowners, just let the water drip Friday, February 19, 
>2010 Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
>
>When water is dripping down your walls and pooling on the floor, you 
>don't want to hear someone say: "Do nothing."
>
>Yet, that's probably the best advice roofers and insurance agents have 
>for the thousands of homeowners affected this week by ice dams.
>
>If you are one of them, your best hope for relief is that temperatures 
>go up or down -- soon.
>
>"Every house has tons of icicles hanging from gutters. It's very 
>picturesque but it's bad news for homeowners and for us," said David 
>Thomas of Thomas & McMenamin, an Upper St. Clair insurance agency.
>
>Mr. Thomas, a part owner, has heard from nearly two dozen homeowners 
>complaining of interior leaking over the last two weeks. And he's 
>expecting a lot more.
>
>As long as temperatures stay around freezing, snow and ice will 
>continue to thaw and refreeze on the roof, where ice at the edge holds 
>back water behind it. That water works its way through the shingles -- 
>even climbing up a pitched roof -- and drips down inside the walls, 
>damaging wallboard, trim, insulation and sometimes flooring.
>
>So what can you do? Nothing, except catch or mop up the water you can 
>see and maybe poke a hole in the wall or ceiling to drain what you 
>can't see.
>
>Sam W. Gregg, 79, of Peters, said that about four days ago, he and his 
>wife noticed water dripping down a window in the dining room of their 
>50-year-old home. Then, the same thing happened in their living room 
>and two bedrooms.
>
>"Since it was a little warmer today, it's getting heavier," he said 
>Thursday. "I'm worried that it will get worse."
>
>The Greggs replace soaked towels on the windowsills every six hours or 
>so. They haven't filed a homeowners claim yet but figured they should 
>let Mr. Thomas know.
>
>Mr. Thomas said most water damage claims will be covered. And since 
>large insurance carriers have designated this a catastrophe loss, 
>homeowners'
>rates generally won't be affected.
>
>However, that doesn't mean insurance companies will replace your roof, 
>or pay to make sure this doesn't happen again. For that, you'll have to 
>wait until the ice and snow are gone.
>
>Installing loops of heat tape -- electrical wire or tape that can be 
>plugged into an outlet -- will create gaps in the ice at the eaves to 
>allow water to run off. An even better solution is to have a roofer 
>install an ice and water shield beneath the bottom 3 or 4 feet of 
>shingles. This adhesive rubber membrane will prevent water trapped 
>behind an ice dam from getting through.
>
>But no one -- roofers included -- should be working up there now. Even 
>if you could safely work on an icy, pitched roof, removing snow or 
>chipping away ice won't help and might just make it worse.
>
>So for now, experts say, mop up, stay off the roof and pray that 
>temperatures drop into the 20s and stay there. As long as it's ice, it 
>can't drip into your house.
>
>Then hope temperatures gradually reach the 40s, and that ice in the 
>gutters finally melts.
>
>Read more: 
> 
>>http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10050/1037001-258.stm#ixzz0fzU2Gv2f 
>
>
> From Our Neck Of The World, our curre

Re: [BlindHandyMan] majestic ice melt

[Bob Kennedy]

Sounds like it might be good with margaritas.
- Original Message - 
From: Andrew J. LaPointe 
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 8:49 PM
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] majestic ice melt


  
Hi, my daughter's boy friend works for a landscaper and plows during the
winter. His company has this stuff called magic salt. It has a whiskey
product in with the salt which doesn't harm the walkways or corrode
anything. I will keep the ice and snow soft up to 25 degrees below. It
really works. Now, the Home Depot version is called Blizzard wizard... Andy

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 8:23 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] majestic ice melt

Yes, that is the stuff, I think it is dyed green. It works wonders
- Original Message -
From: "Spiro" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Great idea.

Is it a blue-ish color?
I pay $18 and get it shipped to me as I haven't access often.
That's the stuff I took with me in a brown bag in my pcket three times to
work this week and dumped handfuls where needed so I wouldn't slide twice.
Great stuff.

On Fri, 19 Feb 2010, Lenny McHugh wrote:

> The ice melt that I use is called majestic. It also is safe for pets,
> kids,
> lawns and carpets. I purchased mine at Lowes for $15 for a 50 pound bag.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Spiro" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 4:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Great idea.
>
>
> insurance companies are slow to cover a residence with a flat roof for
> theis reason.
> Professional ice melt is quoted down to -12 but I think it's more
> accurately trusted to 0.
> I tossed some onto my auning and there are no icycles after the first
> day. Don't know what ths aalts will do to your structures, but the Ice
> Melt (mcmater Carr supply) is safe for lawns, pets, and sidewalks.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, 18 Feb 2010, Dan Rossi wrote:
>
>> Well, this was all good fun anyway. Yes, your run of the mill hand held
>> torch will do very little against any real mass of ice, as many people in
>> the area are finding out. My neighbors and I have kicked around a number
>> of concepts for bleeding off the water in the ice dams along our
>> roof-lines. Anywhere from hooking up a hose to the hot water tap and
>> strapping the hose to a long pipe. To dumping calcium chloride in a few
>> key spots.
>>
>> I personally know three people who have already had major ceiling damage
>> caused by ice dams on their roofs.
>>
>> There are some pretty serious icicles hanging off the buildings around
>> campus. Apparently, one building has icicles that grew curved due to
>> some
>> strong wind funneling in the area. My buddy says they are about 8 to 10
>> feet long and curved so they look like a long row of pretty serious
>> teeth.
>>
>> Oh well. Guess I'll just go out with a shovel over the weekend and hack
>> a
>> path through the worst parts of the sidewalks.
>>
>> --
>> Blue skies.
>> Dan Rossi
>> Carnegie Mellon University.
>> E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu
>> Tel: (412) 268-9081
>>
>
>
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Fwd: Speaking of icicles!!

[Dale Leavens]

sure this doesn't happen again. For that, you'll have to
  >wait until the ice and snow are gone.
  >
  >Installing loops of heat tape -- electrical wire or tape that can be
  >plugged into an outlet -- will create gaps in the ice at the eaves to
  >allow water to run off. An even better solution is to have a roofer
  >install an ice and water shield beneath the bottom 3 or 4 feet of
  >shingles. This adhesive rubber membrane will prevent water trapped
  >behind an ice dam from getting through.
  >
  >But no one -- roofers included -- should be working up there now. Even
  >if you could safely work on an icy, pitched roof, removing snow or
  >chipping away ice won't help and might just make it worse.
  >
  >So for now, experts say, mop up, stay off the roof and pray that
  >temperatures drop into the 20s and stay there. As long as it's ice, it
  >can't drip into your house.
  >
  >Then hope temperatures gradually reach the 40s, and that ice in the
  >gutters finally melts.
  >
  >Read more:
  ><http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10050/1037001-258.stm#ixzz0fzU2Gv2f
  ><http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10050/1037001-258.stm#ixzz0fzU2Gv2f>
  >>http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10050/1037001-258.stm#ixzz0fzU2Gv2f
  ><http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10050/1037001-258.stm#ixzz0fzU2Gv2f>
  >
  > From Our Neck Of The World, our current weather
  > is: Silver Springs, Florida Clear, 42°F Wind:N-010° at 3mph Only a
  >fool tests the depth of the water with both feet.
  >Anna
  text of forwarded message ends:

  John
  Currently in Ocala, Florida Clear, 64°F Wind:SSW-200° at 6mph
  Lactomangulation: Manhandling the 'open here'
  spout on a milk container so badly that one has to resort to the 'illegal'
  side.
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RE: [BlindHandyMan] majestic ice melt

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Fwd: Speaking of icicles!!

[Lenny McHugh]

ce in the
>gutters finally melts.
>
>Read more:
><http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10050/1037001-258.stm#ixzz0fzU2Gv2f
><http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10050/1037001-258.stm#ixzz0fzU2Gv2f>
>>http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10050/1037001-258.stm#ixzz0fzU2Gv2f
><http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10050/1037001-258.stm#ixzz0fzU2Gv2f>
>
> From Our Neck Of The World, our current weather
> is: Silver Springs, Florida Clear, 42°F Wind:N-010° at 3mph Only a
>fool tests the depth of the water with both feet.
>Anna
text of forwarded message ends:

John
Currently in Ocala, Florida Clear, 64°F Wind:SSW-200° at 6mph
Lactomangulation: Manhandling the 'open here'
spout on a milk container so badly that one has to resort to the 'illegal'
side.
Created by Weather Signature v1.31 . http://www.weathersig.com
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] majestic ice melt

[Spiro]

Best stuff out there. You know the stuff is good when where there was ice 
there is now just a great gritty traction on bared concrete.
Makes me almost want to vac it up to use again.
x



On Fri, 19 Feb 2010, Lenny McHugh wrote:

>Yes, that is the stuff, I think it is dyed green. It works wonders
> - Original Message -
> From: "Spiro" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 4:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Great idea.
>
>
> Is it a blue-ish color?
> I pay $18 and get it shipped to me as I haven't access often.
> That's the stuff I took with me in a brown bag in my pcket three times to
> work this week and dumped handfuls where needed so I wouldn't slide twice.
> Great stuff.
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, 19 Feb 2010, Lenny McHugh wrote:
>
>> The ice melt that I use is called majestic. It also is safe for pets,
>> kids,
>> lawns and carpets. I purchased mine at Lowes for $15 for a 50 pound bag.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Spiro" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 4:16 PM
>> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Great idea.
>>
>>
>> insurance companies are slow to cover a residence with a flat roof for
>> theis reason.
>> Professional ice melt is quoted down to -12 but I think it's more
>> accurately  trusted to 0.
>> I tossed some onto my auning  and there are no icycles after the first
>> day. Don't know what ths aalts will do to your structures, but the Ice
>> Melt (mcmater Carr supply) is safe for lawns, pets, and sidewalks.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2010, Dan Rossi wrote:
>>
>>> Well, this was all good fun anyway.  Yes, your run of the mill hand held
>>> torch will do very little against any real mass of ice, as many people in
>>> the area are finding out.  My neighbors and I have kicked around a number
>>> of concepts for bleeding off the water in the ice dams along our
>>> roof-lines.  Anywhere from hooking up a hose to the hot water tap and
>>> strapping the hose to a long pipe.  To dumping calcium chloride in a few
>>> key spots.
>>>
>>> I personally know three people who have already had major ceiling damage
>>> caused by ice dams on their roofs.
>>>
>>> There are some pretty serious icicles hanging off the buildings around
>>> campus.  Apparently, one building has icicles that grew curved due to
>>> some
>>> strong wind funneling in the area.  My buddy says they are about 8 to 10
>>> feet long and curved so they look like a long row of pretty serious
>>> teeth.
>>>
>>> Oh well.  Guess I'll just go out with a shovel over the weekend and hack
>>> a
>>> path through the worst parts of the sidewalks.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Blue skies.
>>> Dan Rossi
>>> Carnegie Mellon University.
>>> E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu
>>> Tel: (412) 268-9081
>>>
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Fwd: Speaking of icicles!!

[Spiro]

this sounds like there are some serious inner structural events going on.
When we get out of the recession, get a rubber roof; and one for me too, 
okay?





On Fri, 19 Feb 2010, jim wrote:

> wow that is the problem i have had for 3 years now.
> and its a real drag as it just loves to leak over my side of the bed.
> aaarg is that cold when you don't expect it at 3 in the morning.
> this year i had a kid come over and use a snow rake to rake the snow off of 
> the roof.
> also it leaked between the the front door frame and the inner wall.
> causing the door frame to squeeze in and keep the door from closing.
> finally i got smart and let a space heater blow on the wall and frame for 
> about 5 hours and it melted the ice in there and let me close the door.
> Jim in Minnesota
>
>
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[BlindHandyMan] Snow Magazine Online :: National Sales & Supply :: Majestic Ice Melt

[Lenny McHugh]

I found this information on several products.

  Majestic Ice Melt

  Safer Than Salt

  Mr. Magic





Majestic Ice Melt is...

Extraordinarily effective

  a.. Contains calcium magnesium acetate, the most desirable
de-icing agent on the market
  b.. Controls the freeze-thaw cycle with time-release formulas
that stay on the surface area longer.
Anti-corrisive

  a.. Creates a bond between the surface area and the elements
to protect agains corrosion and spalling.
  b.. Protects your surface, including interlocking pavers.
Cost and time efficient

  a.. Works longer, reducing the need for repeated applications
  b.. Works better, reducing the volume of product needed for a
single application.
  c.. Cuts down on corrosive damage to property, vehicles and
equipment
Safer than rock salt

  a.. Will not harm children, pets or plants; biodegradable
  b.. Includes Dolomite, providing additional traction control
  c.. No slimy residue results in minimal tracking on floors and
carpets
Easy to use

  a.. Colored with green organic food dye for better visibility
to save you money and time
  b.. Safe to handle without protective clothing
  c.. Anti-caking agent allows free-flowing dispersion
Packaged attractively in

  a.. 50 pound bags
  b.. 8 pound jugs

Safer Than Salt is...

Highly effective

  a.. Contains calcium chloride and magnesium chloride, the most
effective ice melting materials on the market
Better than ordinary rock salt

  a.. Melts more snow and ice than rock salt
  b.. Melts significantly faster than rock salt
  c.. Works at significantly colder temperatures than rock salt
Packaged attractively in

  a.. 50 and 25 pound bags
  b.. 10 pound jugs

Mr Magic is...
Highly effective

  a.. Contains calcium chloride, magnesium chloride and potassium chloride
  b.. Works faster and at significantly lower temperatures than ordinary
rock salt.
Easy to use

  a.. Contains Red Hotz, a special color additive that serves as an
indicator to save you money and time
Packaged attractively in

  a.. 40 and 20 pound bags
  b.. 10 pound jugs
  c..
  d..
  e.. source:
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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Fwd: Speaking of icicles!!

[Dave Andrus]

Hi everyone, 

I grew up in northern Wisconsin. We were always told that if you have
icicles it means you do not have enough insulation in the attic.  When the
sun melts snow from the top the water runs off the top. If you have ice dams
and icicles this means melt from the underside. This can only happen from
heat coming up from the rooms below. 

Certainly there are a few exceptions to this situation, but I suggest you
find out how much insulation you have. We now live in st. Louis. Both here
and up north they suggest an R30 or above for the attic. 

Dave A.



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Jesus

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Lutheran Blind Mission
888 215 2455
HTTP://WWW.BLINDMISSION.ORG 

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of john schwery
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 4:14 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Fwd: Speaking of icicles!!

  

Dan, here is an article from a Burgh paper. My wife is from the Burgh and
gets articles like this.

text of forwarded message follows:

>Don't flip, homeowners, just let the water drip Friday, February 19, 
>2010 Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
>
>When water is dripping down your walls and pooling on the floor, you 
>don't want to hear someone say: "Do nothing."
>
>Yet, that's probably the best advice roofers and insurance agents have 
>for the thousands of homeowners affected this week by ice dams.
>
>If you are one of them, your best hope for relief is that temperatures 
>go up or down -- soon.
>
>"Every house has tons of icicles hanging from gutters. It's very 
>picturesque but it's bad news for homeowners and for us," said David 
>Thomas of Thomas & McMenamin, an Upper St. Clair insurance agency.
>
>Mr. Thomas, a part owner, has heard from nearly two dozen homeowners 
>complaining of interior leaking over the last two weeks. And he's 
>expecting a lot more.
>
>As long as temperatures stay around freezing, snow and ice will 
>continue to thaw and refreeze on the roof, where ice at the edge holds 
>back water behind it. That water works its way through the shingles -- 
>even climbing up a pitched roof -- and drips down inside the walls, 
>damaging wallboard, trim, insulation and sometimes flooring.
>
>So what can you do? Nothing, except catch or mop up the water you can 
>see and maybe poke a hole in the wall or ceiling to drain what you 
>can't see.
>
>Sam W. Gregg, 79, of Peters, said that about four days ago, he and his 
>wife noticed water dripping down a window in the dining room of their 
>50-year-old home. Then, the same thing happened in their living room 
>and two bedrooms.
>
>"Since it was a little warmer today, it's getting heavier," he said 
>Thursday. "I'm worried that it will get worse."
>
>The Greggs replace soaked towels on the windowsills every six hours or 
>so. They haven't filed a homeowners claim yet but figured they should 
>let Mr. Thomas know.
>
>Mr. Thomas said most water damage claims will be covered. And since 
>large insurance carriers have designated this a catastrophe loss, 
>homeowners'
>rates generally won't be affected.
>
>However, that doesn't mean insurance companies will replace your roof, 
>or pay to make sure this doesn't happen again. For that, you'll have to 
>wait until the ice and snow are gone.
>
>Installing loops of heat tape -- electrical wire or tape that can be 
>plugged into an outlet -- will create gaps in the ice at the eaves to 
>allow water to run off. An even better solution is to have a roofer 
>install an ice and water shield beneath the bottom 3 or 4 feet of 
>shingles. This adhesive rubber membrane will prevent water trapped 
>behind an ice dam from getting through.
>
>But no one -- roofers included -- should be working up there now. Even 
>if you could safely work on an icy, pitched roof, removing snow or 
>chipping away ice won't help and might just make it worse.
>
>So for now, experts say, mop up, stay off the roof and pray that 
>temperatures drop into the 20s and stay there. As long as it's ice, it 
>can't drip into your house.
>
>Then hope temperatures gradually reach the 40s, and that ice in the 
>gutters finally melts.
>
>Read more: 
> 
>>http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10050/1037001-258.stm#ixzz0fzU2Gv2f 
>
>
> From Our Neck Of The World, our current weather
> is: Silver Springs, Florida Clear, 42°F Wind:N-010° at 3mph Only a 
>fool tests the depth of the water with both feet.
>Anna
text of forwarded message ends:

John
Currently in Ocala, Florida Clear, 64°F Wind:SSW-200° at 6mph
Lactomangulation: Manhandling the 'open here' 
spout on a milk container so badly that one has to resort to the 'illegal'
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Fwd: Speaking of icicles!!

[Dale Leavens]

Sometimes what you are finding is from condensation on the under side of the 
roof deck. When it is cold, moisture from inside the heated space escaping up 
into the attic space condenses on the cold under side of the roof deck. It 
freezes there and the ice builds up on the under side of the roof deck. when 
things warm up the ice melts and the water falls soaking any ceiling insulation 
until it begins dripping through.

We have had many discussions here on the various merits of attic ventilation 
and of course vapour barriers. Tings like light junction boxes are quite large 
ports for escaping moisture and it is why things like bathroom fans should not 
vent directly into attic spaces.


If I was Han Solo I'd probably pet my wookie
  - Original Message - 
  From: jim 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 8:19 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Fwd: Speaking of icicles!!



  wow that is the problem i have had for 3 years now.
  and its a real drag as it just loves to leak over my side of the bed.
  aaarg is that cold when you don't expect it at 3 in the morning.
  this year i had a kid come over and use a snow rake to rake the snow off of 
the roof.
  also it leaked between the the front door frame and the inner wall.
  causing the door frame to squeeze in and keep the door from closing.
  finally i got smart and let a space heater blow on the wall and frame for 
about 5 hours and it melted the ice in there and let me close the door.
  Jim in Minnesota

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Satellite Radios Anyone?

[Dale Leavens]

The sportster line of radio are really quite blind friendly, not all features 
but the little remote makes some of the less accessible features better too. 
There may be others but I haven't seen them.

As far as I know none of them have accessible screen information, things like 
what is playing and what it is playing.


If I was Han Solo I'd probably pet my wookie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dave Mitchell 
  To: blind handyman 
  Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 5:49 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Satellite Radios Anyone?



  Hi All, If this is not off topic, does anyone have current experience with 
  satellite radios and subscription service?
  I poked around the Serious Brand site and have an idea of current rates but 
  I also want to learn more about the actual radios. I would not need one for 
  the car as it has a Mark Levinson rig and my wife usually is playing her 
  I-Pod through it.
  I'm thinking of a basic unit for around the house, garage and yard.

  Off list is fine of course. Happy Weekend, Mitch

  mi...@orbitelcom.come 



  

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Great idea.

[Dale Leavens]

Too bad Sophie is too young to enjoy the fun in the snow with her dad.

The concern about icicles of course is that it represents heat loss to the 
under side of the roof decking. This causes the melting which is reversed when 
the water passes the warm edge into the cold over the eve.

With the warming the snow will  be getting wet and heavy. Sometimes it is 
desirable to spray your shovel or scraper with a lubricant like Pam or WD40. I 
like to use hard paste wax so that the snow doesn't stick. I am sure your 
neighbours will be pleased to have the walks well cleaned. I just hired a chap 
with a small Kubota tractor with a blower on the back and a small blade on the 
front to keep our big double drive clear for the rest of the season. Not that 
we are having a lot of snow so far but it seems to be coming about daily and I 
am losing interest in spending that much time on the tail end of my 30 inch 
scraper. I'll go out tomorrow and clear the patio.


If I was Han Solo I'd probably pet my wookie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dan Rossi 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 3:47 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Great idea.



  Dale,

  I do have icicles on the roof, and have been knocking them down every 
  couple of days. So I don't have the really impressive icicles like some 
  of my neighbors. It is pretty warm out today, so I think a big part of 
  the problem will go away. I had to take a half day off today, and work 
  from home the other half of the day. It was so nice and sunny and warm 
  out that I dug out my neighbors car, and scraped all the sidewalks down 
  to the cement from the main stairs to my house.

  Then, for good measure, I built a snowman, decorating him with the typical 
  carrot for a nose, but used an old set of my prosthetic eyes, and a joke 
  pacifier that has teeth.

  According to the comments from FaceBook, it is kind of creepy looking.

  -- 
  Blue skies.
  Dan Rossi
  Carnegie Mellon University.
  E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu
  Tel: (412) 268-9081


  

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RE: [BlindHandyMan] majestic ice melt

[Andrew J. LaPointe]

Hi, my daughter's boy friend works for a landscaper and plows during the
winter.  His company has this stuff called magic salt.  It has a whiskey
product in with the salt which doesn't harm the walkways or corrode
anything.  I will keep the ice and snow soft up to 25 degrees below.  It
really works.  Now, the Home Depot version is called Blizzard wizard... Andy

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 8:23 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] majestic ice melt


Yes, that is the stuff, I think it is dyed green. It works wonders
- Original Message -
From: "Spiro" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Great idea.


Is it a blue-ish color?
I pay $18 and get it shipped to me as I haven't access often.
That's the stuff I took with me in a brown bag in my pcket three times to
work this week and dumped handfuls where needed so I wouldn't slide twice.
Great stuff.




On Fri, 19 Feb 2010, Lenny McHugh wrote:

> The ice melt that I use is called majestic. It also is safe for pets,
> kids,
> lawns and carpets. I purchased mine at Lowes for $15 for a 50 pound bag.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Spiro" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 4:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Great idea.
>
>
> insurance companies are slow to cover a residence with a flat roof for
> theis reason.
> Professional ice melt is quoted down to -12 but I think it's more
> accurately  trusted to 0.
> I tossed some onto my auning  and there are no icycles after the first
> day. Don't know what ths aalts will do to your structures, but the Ice
> Melt (mcmater Carr supply) is safe for lawns, pets, and sidewalks.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, 18 Feb 2010, Dan Rossi wrote:
>
>> Well, this was all good fun anyway.  Yes, your run of the mill hand held
>> torch will do very little against any real mass of ice, as many people in
>> the area are finding out.  My neighbors and I have kicked around a number
>> of concepts for bleeding off the water in the ice dams along our
>> roof-lines.  Anywhere from hooking up a hose to the hot water tap and
>> strapping the hose to a long pipe.  To dumping calcium chloride in a few
>> key spots.
>>
>> I personally know three people who have already had major ceiling damage
>> caused by ice dams on their roofs.
>>
>> There are some pretty serious icicles hanging off the buildings around
>> campus.  Apparently, one building has icicles that grew curved due to
>> some
>> strong wind funneling in the area.  My buddy says they are about 8 to 10
>> feet long and curved so they look like a long row of pretty serious
>> teeth.
>>
>> Oh well.  Guess I'll just go out with a shovel over the weekend and hack
>> a
>> path through the worst parts of the sidewalks.
>>
>> --
>> Blue skies.
>> Dan Rossi
>> Carnegie Mellon University.
>> E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu
>> Tel: (412) 268-9081
>>
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[BlindHandyMan] majestic ice melt

[Lenny McHugh]

Yes, that is the stuff, I think it is dyed green. It works wonders
- Original Message - 
From: "Spiro" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Great idea.


Is it a blue-ish color?
I pay $18 and get it shipped to me as I haven't access often.
That's the stuff I took with me in a brown bag in my pcket three times to
work this week and dumped handfuls where needed so I wouldn't slide twice.
Great stuff.




On Fri, 19 Feb 2010, Lenny McHugh wrote:

> The ice melt that I use is called majestic. It also is safe for pets, 
> kids,
> lawns and carpets. I purchased mine at Lowes for $15 for a 50 pound bag.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Spiro" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 4:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Great idea.
>
>
> insurance companies are slow to cover a residence with a flat roof for
> theis reason.
> Professional ice melt is quoted down to -12 but I think it's more
> accurately  trusted to 0.
> I tossed some onto my auning  and there are no icycles after the first
> day. Don't know what ths aalts will do to your structures, but the Ice
> Melt (mcmater Carr supply) is safe for lawns, pets, and sidewalks.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, 18 Feb 2010, Dan Rossi wrote:
>
>> Well, this was all good fun anyway.  Yes, your run of the mill hand held
>> torch will do very little against any real mass of ice, as many people in
>> the area are finding out.  My neighbors and I have kicked around a number
>> of concepts for bleeding off the water in the ice dams along our
>> roof-lines.  Anywhere from hooking up a hose to the hot water tap and
>> strapping the hose to a long pipe.  To dumping calcium chloride in a few
>> key spots.
>>
>> I personally know three people who have already had major ceiling damage
>> caused by ice dams on their roofs.
>>
>> There are some pretty serious icicles hanging off the buildings around
>> campus.  Apparently, one building has icicles that grew curved due to 
>> some
>> strong wind funneling in the area.  My buddy says they are about 8 to 10
>> feet long and curved so they look like a long row of pretty serious 
>> teeth.
>>
>> Oh well.  Guess I'll just go out with a shovel over the weekend and hack 
>> a
>> path through the worst parts of the sidewalks.
>>
>> --
>> Blue skies.
>> Dan Rossi
>> Carnegie Mellon University.
>> E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu
>> Tel: (412) 268-9081
>>
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Fwd: Speaking of icicles!!

[jim]

wow that is the problem i have had for 3 years now.
and its a real drag as it just loves to leak over my side of the bed.
aaarg is that cold when you don't expect it at 3 in the morning.
this year i had a kid come over and use a snow rake to rake the snow off of the 
roof.
also it leaked between the the front door frame and the inner wall.
causing the door frame to squeeze in and keep the door from closing.
finally i got smart and let a space heater blow on the wall and frame for about 
5 hours and it melted the ice in there and let me close the door.
Jim in Minnesota


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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Satellite Radios Anyone?

[RJ]

Have one, Just make sure the remote is usable, mine is very blind un-friendly. 
I think we pay around $12 per month for the service. Sound is great and so is 
the programming for almost everyone taste or interest.
RJ
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dave Mitchell 
  To: blind handyman 
  Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 17:49
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Satellite Radios Anyone?



  Hi All, If this is not off topic, does anyone have current experience with 
  satellite radios and subscription service?
  I poked around the Serious Brand site and have an idea of current rates but 
  I also want to learn more about the actual radios. I would not need one for 
  the car as it has a Mark Levinson rig and my wife usually is playing her 
  I-Pod through it.
  I'm thinking of a basic unit for around the house, garage and yard.

  Off list is fine of course. Happy Weekend, Mitch

  mi...@orbitelcom.come 



  

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[BlindHandyMan] Satellite Radios Anyone?

[Dave Mitchell]

Hi All,  If this is not off topic, does anyone have current experience with 
satellite radios and subscription service?
I poked around the Serious Brand site and have an idea of current rates but 
I also want to learn more about the actual radios.  I would not need one for 
the car as it has a Mark Levinson rig and my wife usually is playing her 
I-Pod through it.
I'm thinking of a basic unit for around the house, garage and yard.

Off list is fine of course.  Happy Weekend, Mitch

mi...@orbitelcom.come 

[BlindHandyMan] Fwd: Speaking of icicles!!

[john schwery]

Dan, here is an article from a Burgh paper.  My 
wife is from the Burgh and gets articles like this.

text of forwarded message follows:

>Don't flip, homeowners, just let the water drip
>Friday, February 19, 2010
>Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
>
>When water is dripping down your walls and 
>pooling on the floor, you don't want to hear someone say: "Do nothing."
>
>Yet, that's probably the best advice roofers and 
>insurance agents have for the thousands of 
>homeowners affected this week by ice dams.
>
>If you are one of them, your best hope for 
>relief is that temperatures go up or down -- soon.
>
>"Every house has tons of icicles hanging from 
>gutters. It's very picturesque but it's bad news 
>for homeowners and for us," said David Thomas of 
>Thomas & McMenamin, an Upper St. Clair insurance agency.
>
>Mr. Thomas, a part owner, has heard from nearly 
>two dozen homeowners complaining of interior 
>leaking over the last two weeks. And he's expecting a lot more.
>
>As long as temperatures stay around freezing, 
>snow and ice will continue to thaw and refreeze 
>on the roof, where ice at the edge holds back 
>water behind it. That water works its way 
>through the shingles -- even climbing up a 
>pitched roof -- and drips down inside the walls, 
>damaging wallboard, trim, insulation and sometimes flooring.
>
>So what can you do? Nothing, except catch or mop 
>up the water you can see and maybe poke a hole 
>in the wall or ceiling to drain what you can't see.
>
>Sam W. Gregg, 79, of Peters, said that about 
>four days ago, he and his wife noticed water 
>dripping down a window in the dining room of 
>their 50-year-old home. Then, the same thing 
>happened in their living room and two bedrooms.
>
>"Since it was a little warmer today, it's 
>getting heavier," he said Thursday. "I'm worried that it will get worse."
>
>The Greggs replace soaked towels on the 
>windowsills every six hours or so. They haven't 
>filed a homeowners claim yet but figured they should let Mr. Thomas know.
>
>Mr. Thomas said most water damage claims will be 
>covered. And since large insurance carriers have 
>designated this a catastrophe loss, homeowners' 
>rates generally won't be affected.
>
>However, that doesn't mean insurance companies 
>will replace your roof, or pay to make sure this 
>doesn't happen again. For that, you'll have to 
>wait until the ice and snow are gone.
>
>Installing loops of heat tape -- electrical wire 
>or tape that can be plugged into an outlet -- 
>will create gaps in the ice at the eaves to 
>allow water to run off. An even better solution 
>is to have a roofer install an ice and water 
>shield beneath the bottom 3 or 4 feet of 
>shingles. This adhesive rubber membrane will 
>prevent water trapped behind an ice dam from getting through.
>
>But no one -- roofers included -- should be 
>working up there now. Even if you could safely 
>work on an icy, pitched roof, removing snow or 
>chipping away ice won't help and might just make it worse.
>
>So for now, experts say, mop up, stay off the 
>roof and pray that temperatures drop into the 
>20s and stay there. As long as it's ice, it can't drip into your house.
>
>Then hope temperatures gradually reach the 40s, 
>and that ice in the gutters finally melts.
>
>Read more: 
>http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10050/1037001-258.stm#ixzz0fzU2Gv2f
>
> From Our Neck Of The World, our current weather 
> is:  Silver Springs, Florida Clear, 42°F Wind:N-010° at 3mph
>Only a fool tests the depth of the water with both feet.
>Anna
text of forwarded message ends:

John
Currently in Ocala, Florida Clear, 64°F Wind:SSW-200° at 6mph
Lactomangulation: Manhandling the 'open here' 
spout on a milk container so badly that one has 
to resort to the 'illegal' side.
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Great idea.

[Spiro]

Is it a blue-ish color?
I pay $18 and get it shipped to me as I haven't access often.
That's the stuff I took with me in a brown bag in my pcket three times to 
work this week and dumped handfuls where needed so I wouldn't slide twice. 
Great stuff.




On Fri, 19 Feb 2010, Lenny McHugh wrote:

> The ice melt that I use is called majestic. It also is safe for pets, kids,
> lawns and carpets. I purchased mine at Lowes for $15 for a 50 pound bag.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Spiro" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 4:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Great idea.
>
>
> insurance companies are slow to cover a residence with a flat roof for
> theis reason.
> Professional ice melt is quoted down to -12 but I think it's more
> accurately  trusted to 0.
> I tossed some onto my auning  and there are no icycles after the first
> day. Don't know what ths aalts will do to your structures, but the Ice
> Melt (mcmater Carr supply) is safe for lawns, pets, and sidewalks.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, 18 Feb 2010, Dan Rossi wrote:
>
>> Well, this was all good fun anyway.  Yes, your run of the mill hand held
>> torch will do very little against any real mass of ice, as many people in
>> the area are finding out.  My neighbors and I have kicked around a number
>> of concepts for bleeding off the water in the ice dams along our
>> roof-lines.  Anywhere from hooking up a hose to the hot water tap and
>> strapping the hose to a long pipe.  To dumping calcium chloride in a few
>> key spots.
>>
>> I personally know three people who have already had major ceiling damage
>> caused by ice dams on their roofs.
>>
>> There are some pretty serious icicles hanging off the buildings around
>> campus.  Apparently, one building has icicles that grew curved due to some
>> strong wind funneling in the area.  My buddy says they are about 8 to 10
>> feet long and curved so they look like a long row of pretty serious teeth.
>>
>> Oh well.  Guess I'll just go out with a shovel over the weekend and hack a
>> path through the worst parts of the sidewalks.
>>
>> --
>> Blue skies.
>> Dan Rossi
>> Carnegie Mellon University.
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Great idea.

[Lenny McHugh]

The ice melt that I use is called majestic. It also is safe for pets, kids, 
lawns and carpets. I purchased mine at Lowes for $15 for a 50 pound bag.
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Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Great idea.


insurance companies are slow to cover a residence with a flat roof for
theis reason.
Professional ice melt is quoted down to -12 but I think it's more
accurately  trusted to 0.
I tossed some onto my auning  and there are no icycles after the first
day. Don't know what ths aalts will do to your structures, but the Ice
Melt (mcmater Carr supply) is safe for lawns, pets, and sidewalks.





On Thu, 18 Feb 2010, Dan Rossi wrote:

> Well, this was all good fun anyway.  Yes, your run of the mill hand held
> torch will do very little against any real mass of ice, as many people in
> the area are finding out.  My neighbors and I have kicked around a number
> of concepts for bleeding off the water in the ice dams along our
> roof-lines.  Anywhere from hooking up a hose to the hot water tap and
> strapping the hose to a long pipe.  To dumping calcium chloride in a few
> key spots.
>
> I personally know three people who have already had major ceiling damage
> caused by ice dams on their roofs.
>
> There are some pretty serious icicles hanging off the buildings around
> campus.  Apparently, one building has icicles that grew curved due to some
> strong wind funneling in the area.  My buddy says they are about 8 to 10
> feet long and curved so they look like a long row of pretty serious teeth.
>
> Oh well.  Guess I'll just go out with a shovel over the weekend and hack a
> path through the worst parts of the sidewalks.
>
> -- 
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> Dan Rossi
> Carnegie Mellon University.
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> Tel: (412) 268-9081
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Great idea.

[Spiro]

insurance companies are slow to cover a residence with a flat roof for 
theis reason.
Professional ice melt is quoted down to -12 but I think it's more 
accurately  trusted to 0.
I tossed some onto my auning  and there are no icycles after the first 
day. Don't know what ths aalts will do to your structures, but the Ice 
Melt (mcmater Carr supply) is safe for lawns, pets, and sidewalks.





On Thu, 18 Feb 2010, Dan Rossi wrote:

> Well, this was all good fun anyway.  Yes, your run of the mill hand held
> torch will do very little against any real mass of ice, as many people in
> the area are finding out.  My neighbors and I have kicked around a number
> of concepts for bleeding off the water in the ice dams along our
> roof-lines.  Anywhere from hooking up a hose to the hot water tap and
> strapping the hose to a long pipe.  To dumping calcium chloride in a few
> key spots.
>
> I personally know three people who have already had major ceiling damage
> caused by ice dams on their roofs.
>
> There are some pretty serious icicles hanging off the buildings around
> campus.  Apparently, one building has icicles that grew curved due to some
> strong wind funneling in the area.  My buddy says they are about 8 to 10
> feet long and curved so they look like a long row of pretty serious teeth.
>
> Oh well.  Guess I'll just go out with a shovel over the weekend and hack a
> path through the worst parts of the sidewalks.
>
> -- 
> Blue skies.
> Dan Rossi
> Carnegie Mellon University.
> E-Mail:   d...@andrew.cmu.edu
> Tel:  (412) 268-9081
>

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Great idea.

[Dan Rossi]

Dale,

I do have icicles on the roof, and have been knocking them down every 
couple of days.  So I don't have the really impressive icicles like some 
of my neighbors.  It is pretty warm out today, so I think a big part of 
the problem will go away.  I had to take a half day off today, and work 
from home the other half of the day.  It was so nice and sunny and warm 
out that I dug out my neighbors car, and scraped all the sidewalks down 
to the cement from the main stairs to my house.

Then, for good measure, I built a snowman, decorating him with the typical 
carrot for a nose, but used an old set of my prosthetic eyes, and a joke 
pacifier that has teeth.

According to the comments from FaceBook, it is kind of creepy looking.

-- 
Blue skies.
Dan Rossi
Carnegie Mellon University.
E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu
Tel:(412) 268-9081

[BlindHandyMan] drill bit extender

[Lenny McHugh]

Many years ago I had a friend that had a small machine shop. He made a set 
of bit extenders that made all of his bits the same length. He did this for 
precision step drilling. I  remember him trying to find a set of same-length 
bits. I wonder if these are now made commercially? The ones that Chet made 
were sold at a public sale after his death. Wish that I could have got my 
hands on them. I remember watching him drill some 1/2 inch holes in boiler 
plate. He used 1/8, 1/4, 3/8 then the 1/2 inch bits. He inserted each bit 
into the chuck until it bottomed out. There was more than one occasion where 
I could have used a product like that.
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