Re: [BlindHandyMan] Air Purification Systems
On Tue, 22 Jun 2010, John Sherrer wrote: Ozone is part of nature, such as a lightening strike, when you can smell the ozone. This cleanses the air and land. This is the good ozone. Um, OK. However, lightning also causes forest fires, which are part of nature, and important to the generation of new growth, but I don't want fire in my house. Carbon Dioxide is also found naturally in the environment, and very important to plant growth. I don't want a CO2 generator in my house either. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu Tel:(412) 268-9081
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Air Purification Systems
Lenny, Thanks very much for this link. It was an interesting read and I will send it to everyone who tells me that Ozone generators are a good thing. John, I guess you were right, there is good Ozone and bad Ozone. Good up high, bad near by. Ozone in the upper atmosphere is vital to the Earth, but a serious pollutant at ground level. So you are, in fact, generating the bad kind of Ozone in your house. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu Tel:(412) 268-9081
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Air Purification Systems
What I never understood about the ozone layer is why it isn't a self regulating system. The more ultraviolet which penetrates the atmosphere the more ozone it will generate to replace that removed by those fluorocarbons. - Original Message - From: Dan Rossi To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 8:02 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Air Purification Systems Lenny, Thanks very much for this link. It was an interesting read and I will send it to everyone who tells me that Ozone generators are a good thing. John, I guess you were right, there is good Ozone and bad Ozone. Good up high, bad near by. Ozone in the upper atmosphere is vital to the Earth, but a serious pollutant at ground level. So you are, in fact, generating the bad kind of Ozone in your house. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu Tel: (412) 268-9081 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Air Purification Systems
Dan, People will believe what they want to believe. Over a career of nearly forty years in Physical therapy I have always been amazed at the number of people complaining of their bad backs they blamed on the vibration exposure in their trucks, heavy equipment even with air suspended seating who then went home and spent the evening in their in some cases as much as multi thousand dollar vibrating chairs. The very vibration that health and safety protects them from on the job and against which they would readily make compensation claims becomes therapeutic off the job. Get Renaults disease from operating a drill or chain saw and someone will be responsible then go to the Chiropractor and pay to use a magic hand massager. Damage your lungs on the job with ozone and you can use some of your Workers' Compensation claim money to buy a generator for your personal home use I suppose. Some of these things are like politics and religion. there is no requirement for the proponent to demonstrate anything. - Original Message - From: Dan Rossi To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 7:51 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Air Purification Systems On Tue, 22 Jun 2010, John Sherrer wrote: Ozone is part of nature, such as a lightening strike, when you can smell the ozone. This cleanses the air and land. This is the good ozone. Um, OK. However, lightning also causes forest fires, which are part of nature, and important to the generation of new growth, but I don't want fire in my house. Carbon Dioxide is also fozone on the job and you can spend your compensation money on a home ozone generator.d naturally in the environment, and very important to plant growth. I don't want a CO2 generator in my house either. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu Tel: (412) 268-9081 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[BlindHandyMan] Fw: [recycle-it] Fs: Mini Angle Grinder
i'm in the north east of the UK you can contackt me on skype carlf16 and joine my list for unabridged audiobooks send a blank email to ub_ab_bookspace+subscr...@googlegroups.com - Original Message - From: Mike Moore To: recycle-it Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 1:29 PM Subject: [recycle-it] Fs: Mini Angle Grinder Hello, I have for sale an as new mini angle grinder. This grinder takes the smaller grinding/cutting/sanding disks... I think they are about 4 or 5 inches diameter. This has only been used once and is in perfect condition and comes complete in box with handle, which can be positioned in 3 places and the grinder has spindle lock, so removing the retaining nut is so much easier. Included also is instruction manual and tool to fit retaining nut. Only asking £15, however buyer's choice of postage will be additional. Payment by bank transfer preferred, payments by Paypal shall have to include extra to cover admin costs imposed by Paypal. Kind regards, Mike [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Fw: [recycle-it] Fs: Mini Angle Grinder
This is way off topic for this list. This is not a swap shop. moderator - Original Message - From: Carl carl...@googlemail.com To: wood work w...@yahoogroups.com; blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 8:48 AM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Fw: [recycle-it] Fs: Mini Angle Grinder i'm in the north east of the UK you can contackt me on skype carlf16 and joine my list for unabridged audiobooks send a blank email to ub_ab_bookspace+subscr...@googlegroups.com - Original Message - From: Mike Moore To: recycle-it Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 1:29 PM Subject: [recycle-it] Fs: Mini Angle Grinder Hello, I have for sale an as new mini angle grinder. This grinder takes the smaller grinding/cutting/sanding disks... I think they are about 4 or 5 inches diameter. This has only been used once and is in perfect condition and comes complete in box with handle, which can be positioned in 3 places and the grinder has spindle lock, so removing the retaining nut is so much easier. Included also is instruction manual and tool to fit retaining nut. Only asking £15, however buyer's choice of postage will be additional. Payment by bank transfer preferred, payments by Paypal shall have to include extra to cover admin costs imposed by Paypal. Kind regards, Mike [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Fw: [recycle-it] Fs: Mini Angle Grinder
yes i just thort thair might bee mor interest on a list that deals with powertools or the use thair for off i'm in the north east of the UK you can contackt me on skype carlf16 and joine my list for unabridged audiobooks send a blank email to ub_ab_bookspace+subscr...@googlegroups.com - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 2:34 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Fw: [recycle-it] Fs: Mini Angle Grinder This is way off topic for this list. This is not a swap shop. moderator - Original Message - From: Carl carl...@googlemail.com To: wood work w...@yahoogroups.com; blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 8:48 AM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Fw: [recycle-it] Fs: Mini Angle Grinder i'm in the north east of the UK you can contackt me on skype carlf16 and joine my list for unabridged audiobooks send a blank email to ub_ab_bookspace+subscr...@googlegroups.com - Original Message - From: Mike Moore To: recycle-it Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 1:29 PM Subject: [recycle-it] Fs: Mini Angle Grinder Hello, I have for sale an as new mini angle grinder. This grinder takes the smaller grinding/cutting/sanding disks... I think they are about 4 or 5 inches diameter. This has only been used once and is in perfect condition and comes complete in box with handle, which can be positioned in 3 places and the grinder has spindle lock, so removing the retaining nut is so much easier. Included also is instruction manual and tool to fit retaining nut. Only asking £15, however buyer's choice of postage will be additional. Payment by bank transfer preferred, payments by Paypal shall have to include extra to cover admin costs imposed by Paypal. Kind regards, Mike [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Air Purification Systems
I could not get the link to open, but I will try again later. My sister-in-law shows dogs as a hobby. They have about 11 dogs. At these shows, benders are there that sell ozonators. They bought one without my influence. A lot of dog show people must use ozonators. After 9/11, the company that made my ozonator donated a bunch of these units to the Pentagon. The people at the Pentagon said that these units were the only thing that worked to get rid of the aviation fuel smell and the fire smell. I have been using ozone for over 15 years, and I believe that ozone turns a house into a healthy environment. I must admit that I do not trust the FDA or the EPA, and some other government agencies. I do not want to convince someone to do what I do or change one's mind. Everyone must decide what works for themselves. John http://WhiteCane.org http://BlindWoodWorker.com http://HolyTeaClub.comcom\whitecane http://anellos.ws - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 11:40 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Air Purification Systems After reading this information you may change your mind. A few years ago I called a manufacturer about a cleaner that can produce ozone. I mentioned that I have a guide dog. His response to turn the ozone generation off or purchase a different model. http://www.epa.gov/iaq/pubs/ozonegen.html - Original Message - From: John Sherrer j...@whitecane.org To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 11:13 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Air Purification Systems Ozone is part of nature, such as a lightening strike, when you can smell the ozone. This cleanses the air and land. This is the good ozone. My ozonator has the same smell as the ozone from a lightening strike. Ozone will kill all bacteria, virus, and dust mites in the air by burning them with oxygen. I have a guide dog and had other dogs in the past, and the ozone gets rid of most odors. Tour house never smelled like dog, except when using the vacuum cleaner. One reason why I like ozone is that it neutralizes chemicals. We had new carpet installed. As you may know new carpet has strong odors from the plastic vapors. We put the ozonator in the room and cranked it up all the way since we were going to be out of the house a few days. We came back and had no odors. I believe that bad ozone is ozone mixed with pollution. I do not know when ozone helps pollution or opposes it. I have never smelled ozone on days with high ozone alerts. Since I am telling you what I believe and am not sure, do not believe it, let's find out what bad ozone is. A few years ago I was at a web site that explained the difference and I will look for it. John http://WhiteCane.org http://BlindWoodWorker.com http://HolyTeaClub.comcom\whitecane http://anellos.ws - Original Message - From: Dan Rossi To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 9:42 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Air Purification Systems The good kind of Ozone? which version of o3 is the good kind and which is the bad kind? O3 is O3. At high concentrations, Ozone is a pretty nasty pollutant. Think of it this way, it is used as a disinfectant because it quote kills the microbes that come into contact with it. People may be larger than microbes, but we operate on a lot of the same principles. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu Tel: (412) 268-9081 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Air Purification Systems
I did get the link to open. This never addressed indoor ozone. But it did help me understand ozone warnings. John http://WhiteCane.org http://BlindWoodWorker.com http://HolyTeaClub.comcom\whitecane http://anellos.ws - Original Message - From: Dan Rossi To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 8:02 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Air Purification Systems Lenny, Thanks very much for this link. It was an interesting read and I will send it to everyone who tells me that Ozone generators are a good thing. John, I guess you were right, there is good Ozone and bad Ozone. Good up high, bad near by. Ozone in the upper atmosphere is vital to the Earth, but a serious pollutant at ground level. So you are, in fact, generating the bad kind of Ozone in your house. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu Tel: (412) 268-9081 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Air Purification Systems
John, Did you get the same link to open that Lenny sent to the list? The entire article was about Ozone generators and indoor air quality. Here is the link again. EPA statement on indoor Ozone generators http://www.epa.gov/iaq/pubs/ozonegen.html -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu Tel:(412) 268-9081
[BlindHandyMan] Deck board screws
Looking for some opinion before I replace the surface boards on our 12 by 16 exterior deck. I will be using the pressure treated premium decking which they refer to as a five quarter by six. The actual finished width is about 5 and a half inches. Anyway after I get done removing the old, which I may say is no small task as many of the Phillips screws are counter sunk and of course stripped. So one question is maybe somebody has some novel ideas on removing them that I have not thought of? All ideas welcome. My question on the new boards is to minimize cupping over the years do you think its over kill to use 3 deck screws per joist rather than the way it is now with 2? thanks Al
[BlindHandyMan] led protection lights
I purchased two types of led lights for night walking. One is fastened to a dog's leash, collar or harness. This one has a constant on or blinking function. The other is an led glow stick. It can be set that the entire stick glows, half of it glows or it blinks. It also has a flashlight and whistle.This one states it can operate up to 200 hours. I wonder if making it blink extends battery life? --- Please visit my home page; it is motivational, inspirational and humorous with many resources for the blind. http://www.lennymchugh.com Lenny Please Copy and Paste into New Message to pass along. Use BCC line when addressing. Help stop identity theft. Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: blindhandyman-dig...@yahoogroups.com blindhandyman-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: blindhandyman-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Deck board screws
The only good way would be to use a saws all to cut the screws off at the joists. Two screws per board at every joist is fine, just sink it a little. Eric - Original Message - From: Alan Terrie Robbins To: Blindhandyman Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:46 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Deck board screws Looking for some opinion before I replace the surface boards on our 12 by 16 exterior deck. I will be using the pressure treated premium decking which they refer to as a five quarter by six. The actual finished width is about 5 and a half inches. Anyway after I get done removing the old, which I may say is no small task as many of the Phillips screws are counter sunk and of course stripped. So one question is maybe somebody has some novel ideas on removing them that I have not thought of? All ideas welcome. My question on the new boards is to minimize cupping over the years do you think its over kill to use 3 deck screws per joist rather than the way it is now with 2? thanks Al [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [BlindHandyMan] Deck board screws
Eric, Your idea is one I did think of, however, the only concern I have is if they end up flush with the joist I am going to have to be very careful the new hole does not get drilled where the cut off screw is. Al -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Eric Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 7:53 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Deck board screws The only good way would be to use a saws all to cut the screws off at the joists. Two screws per board at every joist is fine, just sink it a little. Eric - Original Message - From: Alan Terrie Robbins To: Blindhandyman Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:46 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Deck board screws Looking for some opinion before I replace the surface boards on our 12 by 16 exterior deck. I will be using the pressure treated premium decking which they refer to as a five quarter by six. The actual finished width is about 5 and a half inches. Anyway after I get done removing the old, which I may say is no small task as many of the Phillips screws are counter sunk and of course stripped. So one question is maybe somebody has some novel ideas on removing them that I have not thought of? All ideas welcome. My question on the new boards is to minimize cupping over the years do you think its over kill to use 3 deck screws per joist rather than the way it is now with 2? thanks Al [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Deck board screws
If you're going to be throwing away the current deck boards, then you have a few options to get the screws out. None of which are going to be easy though. First thing I'd try is take a slightly larger drill bit to the heads. They are pretty thin so you should be able to take the heads off with a drill. If that works, you should be able to pry the boards up and off the shafts of the screws. Try it on a screw near the end to start with. If it works, then you can grip the shaft with vise grips and twist them out. If drilling doesn't seem to work, try a hole saw close to the size of the screw. I think 3 quarters is probably as small as you'll find. The drill in the center will come out once the set screw is loosened. You don't have to drill all the way through the board. Just trying to make some space for those vise grips. You'' have to chisel out to the ring from the hole saw. Finally if none of the above work. set your circular saw to the same depth as the deck board. Now you can cut squares out going cross ways to the boards and then rip between the deck screws. If you make the squares small enough, you can use a wood chisel to split the wood away from the screws. Once again, you can use the vise grips and try one of those damaged screw removers that go in the drill. As far as the boards cupping, see if you can get someone to help you mark them. The growth rings on the ends of the boards should make an ark like a rainbow. If the arch curves upwards, that should be the top. Screwing them will only help to pull the arch flat. If the arch runs downwards and looks like a smile, the edges will keep wanting to pull up. - Original Message - From: Alan Terrie Robbins To: Blindhandyman Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:46 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Deck board screws Looking for some opinion before I replace the surface boards on our 12 by 16 exterior deck. I will be using the pressure treated premium decking which they refer to as a five quarter by six. The actual finished width is about 5 and a half inches. Anyway after I get done removing the old, which I may say is no small task as many of the Phillips screws are counter sunk and of course stripped. So one question is maybe somebody has some novel ideas on removing them that I have not thought of? All ideas welcome. My question on the new boards is to minimize cupping over the years do you think its over kill to use 3 deck screws per joist rather than the way it is now with 2? thanks Al [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Deck board screws
You can take a grinder and grind the heads off, then lift the boards up, and with some vice-grips you can unscrew the remainder of the screw. - Original Message - From: Eric rics...@nycap.rr.com To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 4:53 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Deck board screws The only good way would be to use a saws all to cut the screws off at the joists. Two screws per board at every joist is fine, just sink it a little. Eric - Original Message - From: Alan Terrie Robbins To: Blindhandyman Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:46 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Deck board screws Looking for some opinion before I replace the surface boards on our 12 by 16 exterior deck. I will be using the pressure treated premium decking which they refer to as a five quarter by six. The actual finished width is about 5 and a half inches. Anyway after I get done removing the old, which I may say is no small task as many of the Phillips screws are counter sunk and of course stripped. So one question is maybe somebody has some novel ideas on removing them that I have not thought of? All ideas welcome. My question on the new boards is to minimize cupping over the years do you think its over kill to use 3 deck screws per joist rather than the way it is now with 2? thanks Al [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5223 (20100623) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Deck board screws
You will be very unlucky indeed if you hit any of the original screw shafts with your new screw. You might check too if the original screws are in fact Philips screws. they may be the square drive and superior Robertson screws which is why your Philips driver is stripping them. Generally they get stripped going in but are fine on the way out if you bear firmly and straight down on them. You might also want a new driver with sharper and fresh tines to better grab the old screws. - Original Message - From: Alan Terrie Robbins To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 8:04 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Deck board screws Eric, Your idea is one I did think of, however, the only concern I have is if they end up flush with the joist I am going to have to be very careful the new hole does not get drilled where the cut off screw is. Al -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Eric Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 7:53 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Deck board screws The only good way would be to use a saws all to cut the screws off at the joists. Two screws per board at every joist is fine, just sink it a little. Eric - Original Message - From: Alan Terrie Robbins To: Blindhandyman Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:46 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Deck board screws Looking for some opinion before I replace the surface boards on our 12 by 16 exterior deck. I will be using the pressure treated premium decking which they refer to as a five quarter by six. The actual finished width is about 5 and a half inches. Anyway after I get done removing the old, which I may say is no small task as many of the Phillips screws are counter sunk and of course stripped. So one question is maybe somebody has some novel ideas on removing them that I have not thought of? All ideas welcome. My question on the new boards is to minimize cupping over the years do you think its over kill to use 3 deck screws per joist rather than the way it is now with 2? thanks Al [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
